GREVILLE WYNNE'S STORY - PART II

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• Publication Date: September 13, 1964
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rim LEG PENKOVSKY 'lookgd
'terrible when. I saw. him.
hrough the. spy-hole of his cell in
he Lubyanka prison in Moscow..
ut.I could not fail to recognise
im.
He was almost the same age as me.
Is birthday was on March 28, 1919'
y birthday was on the 19th. We were
ilmost the same height, the same build,
he same age. He was a very alive per
on, extremely intelligent on a variety
of subjects. He had a sense of humour.
He liked vodka, he liked wind, he liked
spirits, but he would hardly drink at all
in business hours. I never saw him
drunk. He was always very much alert:
He. had a military bearing and was
pprobably an inch ' taller than me, about
Sft. gin. He walked very quickly,
was very keen on his health, and took
a lot of exercise, He was always asking
how he looked, and he was very upset
because he- was slightly bald-he used to
try all sorts of tonics which he couldn't
get in Russia. He liked the ' company of.
women.
Penkovsky told me that he had been
brought up under the Communist system,
had become an active Communist party
member, was recruited into the Red Army,
and served as an artillery officer in the
Japanese-Manchurian, Finnish and German
wars. ' ~ He had become a colonel at the
age of 30. His father had fought as an
officer in the White Army during the
Revolution.
Penkovsky had married a general's
daughter, and after his military career he
became a full-time member of the State
Security organisation and an intelligence
officer of the reserve Army. The Russians
went , to great lengths to deny this to
me, and told me that if I mentioned this
in court or at any other time later, they
would make much trouble for me.
Penkovsky had shown me and other
people in the West official cards and
documents identifying' him as a member
of military intelligence. That is why
he joined the Technical-Scientific Commit.
tee. It was purely, a method of meeting
Western delegations, keeping tabs on them,
and picking Western brains.
e told me his eyes were opened when
he ent to Istanbul as assistant military
atta4he in 1947. It was the first time he
had;beeni out of Russia. After the war a
lot bf Russians like him, particularly in
H?w a ,Communist's eyes were opened to
Western ways, how he debated "Shall
stay?" and how his. Engl ish -friend
found himself under Russian_ suspicion.
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the Army, did not necessarily want capita en I left oscow in Ijecem -- ,
ism in an -American sense-what they 1960, with that first delegation, it ad
wanted was a more liberal form of social- been agreed in principle that a Russ an
ism, and a more reasonable attitude. delegation would pay a return visit to
He was a member of the Communist England and visit my companies and fac-
party. He said he did not want to give tories. There was delay, so I agreed with
the impression that he was turning against my companies to go to Moscow . again to
the Russian people, against his country. try to finalise the programme. Penkovsky
But a lot of his friends, some of them in was there. to meet me.
very high places, were feeling the same " Now Mr. Wynne," he said, " you
way. After Stalin they expected changes have come because there is some delay
to take place much more quickly, but the in the delegation, Well we have a dele-
economy of the country was being drained gation, I have a delegation, and I am
for soldiers and guns and military equip- coming to England."
ment. '"I ' asked who the delegation nmmbers
There was not the slightest doubt in were, and he gave me a list. "P,-ofessor
my' mind that Penkovsky was genuine, , who is he? " I asked.
about other things to believe that ,,eople
and sensible way _ of lite, in a way, he was
the top of an iceberg; there are lots like "Well Mr. Penkovsky, I am n6 trwiiiiii
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now. He looks after radar, and he is
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IN LONDON Penkovsky
was ?a keen party-goer
e ppected. That it was an investiga $g'
d legation' of specialists coming ju ll to
d egation was not really what they
country, and of the plans. for the future
that he and his friends had dreamed of.
So I agreed to Penkovsky's list, and
I had to tell my companies th - +' ,
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" He also is in Moscow at the moment.
;He is interested in computers,"
" But I am not representing any com-
panies with computers," To cut a long'
story short, there was only one man of
the eight-he'had got who represented a
,firm than I had anything to do with.
I told him, "I can't accept this dele-
gation as they do not represent the
interests and equipment of the companies
I represent. You are expected to come
to look at the equipmen.t which I am
selling."
Then Penkovsky said, "Please Mr.
Wynne, I beg you, I cannot explain, but
I must come to England, If you make
trouble for me I cannot come. Maybe
they. will send another delegation if you
make trouble, but their I will not 'come."
" I would like you to come," I said,
"but what difference does it make? This
is. business."
And then he told me for the first 'time
a little of his hopes and fears for his
vl course i Knew what Penkovsky
IN MOSCOW with Wynne (left)
he met British businessmen
really wanted to do in England:
I
accepted his useless delegation with my;
eyes open, just 'so as to enable him to"
come quickly to the West and make con
tact with British and American
Intelligence..
I had one advantage besides; I had by
then had several years of experience of
East European countries and their people
and their way of life, and I had some
notion of the anguish that many of them
were suffering,. because I had seen it at
first hand. So I was caught up with.
Penkovsky simply because I was there.
I happened to be the right person in the 91 right place at ? the right time. A I
believe that most' British business en''
with my experience would have. done the
same.
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Befer Lo>l~sdale #atf-don Airport and shortly rds
=a
I took Penkovsky. himself ? to my office
n the way I had to stop at Harrods t
It is worth adding, I think, in view o p ck up a parcel, and took Penkovsk
some of the more irresponsible comment t with me.
made later, without any basis of fact, tha As we went through the entrance h
all this happened before the Portla
d
n
sp . A st stood there and gaped. Behind him
case, and before any of the British publi b scs and taxis unloaded customers.
had heard of a fellow called Lonsdale. Th P ople pushed and jostled him aside. And
first Western contact with Penkovsky wa h gaped at the dresses and goods in the
made early in 1960 ; I m
self b
y
egan con
versations with Penkovsky in. December
1860 ; the-Portland trial was not unti
p .rely to secure an exchange #or'th
re ease of Lonsdale entirely with ~u
s re, and the people choosing and buying,
t 4c fitted carpets, the lighting, the general
a mosphere. All he could repeat, again and
a in, was " Oh my people, my, poor
ssian people."
Russian delegates to Britain, whatever
t eir status, are allowed onl; #2 5s. a day
f r their hotel expenses (including all
als) and 10s;' a day pocket money. On
the whole they can afford nothing better
than boarding houses or cheap hotels in,
London, and they cannot afford to. take
taxis, go to theatres, or even go shopping
to any extent, This is precisely the result
that the Russian authorities hope for.
I was determined to. give Penkovsky's
delegation something better than this, and
:so,I arranged that they should have reason-
able accommodation at the Mount . Royal
Hotel near Marble Arch, and my com-
panies would, pay the difference. I
explained. that. for meals in the hotel
all they, had . to do was sign the bill.
The delegation arrived on 'a Saturday:
On the Monday morning, when I arrived
to take them to the' North, the 'hotel
manager took me aside;. the 'delegates had
been refusing breakfast,.. I found them all `
? in one room huddled "round -a suitcase:
filled with tinned food, eating sardines out
of a tin; Signing. the : bill is almost
unknown in Russia and they- had feared
extra expense. When. I. gently explained
that all meals were paid. for, they . ate,
everything in.sigh t.
We set off for the North by car, and our first stop was Sheffield. None of the dele
gates had ever been to the West before,`
and none but Penkovsky had seen an
English shop. On the outskirts of Sheffield
we passed a Woolworth's,. and I ordered
the cars to stop. The Russians could not
contain themselves; they ran from one,
counter to another-literally .ran-picking.;
up cheap trinkets, toothbrushes, combs,`
plastic pens, pencil sharpeners, rulers';
photograph frames-anything and every-
thing,'as long as their money lasted.
The delegation's tour was a great suc-'5
cess. My companies laid on luncheons,
speech-making, flags flying, the Red flag
and the British flag, the white table- .
cloths, the factories, and presents all
rc ur,r: =And . all this for nothi ag .11y,
`all; to get Penkovsky into Britain.
wanted to do everything, and investigate
everything. He wanted to visit museums,
art galleries, cinemas and theatres, and he
wanted to see the interesting buildings
and go into department stores. He was not
particularly interested in the factories, he
wanted to get that over and done with
and have his serious discussions with.
" important " people.
But he would keep his amusements
until the evenings. Then he liked dancing,
and he enjoyed bars and nightclubs.
Later, when we'were in Paris, we went
to cabarets at the Lido and Moulin Rouge.
It was the first time he had ever seen such
spectacular shows, with the. chorus girls
in line: they don't have that in Moscow.
" Why can't the Russians have this too 1 "
he said. "It is a very live and happy art,*
and not so serious as the ballet."
In England, of course, he had to he
extremely careful;. after all he was the
leader of the delegation. But in the
hotels I had arranged for delegates to h ve
double rooms,, and Penkovsky a' sib le
ro 4m. This allowed him to come and o
as to pleased.
. ost of his social activities in Lond
too place on his second visit,-When he
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exhibition in July, 1961.
I went on holiday in Switzerland In
August, and then on to Moscow for the
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~aris to as ce me revery im
ieTcr I thought he should st i the
est. Within four months he had visited
e West three times. He had seen for
ms elf the ordinary people in England
d France, the number of cars on the
eets, the rows of individual houses
ith their own gardens, how the depart-
eat stores were crammed with goods. He
as overwhelmed by it and filled with
Bret for the plight of his own people.
He would say, "Shall I stay? Shall I
ay ? " I would always answer, " I shall
t influence you ; it's entirely up to you."
I took him to the. airport for his
parture for Moscow. On the way heavy
g descended; few other people got
rough to Orly; there was no flying, and
e sat together for four hours in the
most deserted airport.. All the time he
as asking, " Shall I stay ? "
Eventually the fog lifted, and I said
od-bye to him at the barrier, He began
t '. go through, then came back again and
id, " I will stay." I.said?" Well, Alex. it
i entirely up to you." I knew that he
uld stay if he wanted ' to.. But he
cided to go back. "I can help' better
I go back,'' he said. I have much
rk to do.", He was not happy going
ck, but he was' brave.
IIck to ? Help
I
French exhibition being held there. I nkovsky was feeling very unhappy.
stayed only four days, but saw Penkovsky,l pparently he was looking ill, and his
who warned me that there was a possibility
of his going to Paris in September for the
Russian exhibition. I suggested that I
should meet him at Le Bourget Airport.
In the event Penkovsky did not arrive
until towards the end of the second week.
~I had had to go to Le Bourget some
16 times-and had to make myself incon-
spicuous each time I went. It was a
nerve-wracking wait.
. I had jotted down the timetable of the
aircraft arrivals in a small engagement
" Iwish I had stayed in France," he
told me. " At the next opportuslt^ .J ve
of going to the West, I shall stay there
there is no question about it."
A proposed visit to the World Fair at
Seattle and to a planned Soviet trade
.fair in Cyprus had been put off. But he
had been told by Western intelligence how
he could, if he wished, leave the Soviet
Union, Now I brought with me a letter
which cheered him enormously, gave him
a boost in morale and enabled him to re-
gain confidence. The, letter showed, him
that his friends outside Russia had not
forgotten him.
On the second day of my visit, I had
an-official meeting with the State Scienti-
fic 'Committee, and on the evening of the
third day Penkovsky and I met. He was
very reluctant to be seen with me more
than once, and pointed out that we had
better not go to the theatre, and that I
had better, not meet his wife. He thought
it best that we should just have an official
meeting and then part-but that he would
rendezvous with me at the restaurant of
the Peking Hotel because we had never
been there together before. We never
went to the same restaurant twice.
I happened to get to the Peking with
some few minutes to spare, and I walked
up and down on the other side of the
street, I saw some characters standing
around, but they did not seem to pay
too. much attention to me for the moment.
I new, however, that it is. not advisa le
fo a foreigner to loiter too long in o e
p ition in the streets of Moscow.
Then _Penkovsky came' along with , its
brief cask-under his arm, -and .1 Gros ed
1 s close friend, I thought that it would
a good thing if I went over to Moscow
t cheer him up and to see if I could do
a ything to help.
Iliad no real reason for going, so I had
t make one up. With considerable pub-
1 ity it was announced. that I wished to
t e two huge exhibition vehicles across
t e Soviet Union, I wrote to the Scientific.
mmittce and the 'other organisations,
I sent them pictures and in July I_
a rived once again in Moscow on the
'
Belgrade a few days, after Penkovsky p etext of discussing this programme with
arrived in Paris I missed this diary. It wash t e authorities.
produced again 18. months later-during' Penkovsky met me again at the airport.
interrogation at Lubyanka. I Tad not seenbim for nearly a year, and I
In Paris Penkovsky used to attend the s shocked by the change. He was
Embassy or the exhibition during the day ry white and not -his, normal self,
and go to some official dinners at the a d he was very worried. He said that
Embassy; but whenever he got away I wasl h had been working hard, andhe
always waiting for him in a car at a pre-1 s in a nervous state. He thought he
arranged rendezvous, and in Paris you can
easily lose yourself. So we had quite a lot
tourist t_h;aigs, and he seemed to enjoy tche
very `much. But he said he p of rre .
Englano
t a wife of an attache at the Brit ah
easy whom he knew, was also' being,
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? away' quick
e p ace a ee
the road and went up to him. Instead of searched. Later, after my arrest. I wa
hi
s-
greeting me, however, he just put
hand . to his nose, lowered his head, and
went straight into the doorway of the
restaurant. -
I followed him into the lobby. He -
looked into the restaurant, walked about,
and as he was- passing me he said some-
thing that sounded like, " Follow me
behind," - I gathered that there was some-
thing wrong, and I took the hint:
Penkovsky went out.into the . street
and walked for, a few hundred yards to
where there; was- a gap in the buildings
leading to - a tenement area of wooden..
houses. no went in there, and as I was
coming by he spoke to me: - Grev, j,
quick l"
. I went into the alleyway and he said,
"You must go. away now, quick. I might
see you at the airport tomorrow but you
are being followed, Go!". And he went
out another way. -
As I came out of the alley I saw. two
men standing there. And of . course. later
kt~rr Lubyahka I saw photographs;' they had
Iliad cameras. -
n the Room
When I got back to the Ukraine Hotel
-early, of course, as I had had no dinner
-I went' up to my room and asked the
female " gaoler who keeps 'all the keys
in her drawer : " Key?
" No key-administration," she said.
I tried the. door but could not open it,
and the woman came after me and said,
Please, administration have key -
please."
Now downstairs-17 floors down-
nobody ever has a key, and I got sus-
picious. Still, I went down to the admini-
stration and waited 10. or 15 minutes, and
nobody knew anything about my key. So
I went up again and the woman greeted
*2e. "I find your key."- -
I decided to' -check and see whether
my room had been searched, I had
brought with me a tin of Harpic disinfect=
ant with an empty film canister concealed
newspalicrs I had bought on the plane an
my blue mackintosh with the label turne
inside out. My suits, my shoes, my soar
and washing powder were all laid out of
the bed-all in the picture. There was n
question about them all being mine. An
of course a close-up of the Harpic ti
with the canister pulled out.
I decided to get out quickly. I wa
booked on a mid-morning flight to Lon-
don, but I was down at the airport at six
a.m. and took the first plane out, an earl
morning flight to. Copenhagen.
Penkovsky arrived at the airport about
ing his security card, He was still, it must
be remembered, an important official
But he was obviously taking a great ris
coming to the airport in his desire t
get me out as quickly as possible. We -sal
good-bye. -
Plea'se tell . my friends I'm - ver
unhappy," he said. Please, I must, coin
away as soon as possible. I. will try an
get some more material for you, but it i
now very dangerous for me and I ?mus
The next time I saw Penkovsky wa
through the spy-hole of his celli
Lubyanka prison. - -
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GRADUALLY during my interroga
Lion they began to feed me with mor
and more information which they ha
gleaned from Penkovsky, or from thei
own sources: Penkovsky and me outsid
the Peking Hotel; photographs of a pack
age; photographs of Penkovsky and m
with a sweet packet; Penkovsky returnin
to me a suitcase of mine outside, the
Ukraine Hotel. -
So I said, " Well of course I have give
Penkovsky presents. If you look at m
luggage now, it is full up with present. =
have shampoo, I have records, cigarett
lighters, ball pens-'I have a case-full
They are for everybody, not only for th
Russians who can't buy them but fo
other people." -
" So you plead guilty to giving ?Pen
k vsky packages? "
"But I didn't say packages, I sal
resents."
"Well, maybe you didn't know wha
was in the packages."
in a recess. I went into the bathroom-
it was still there. I looked around, and it
seemed that everything was in order.
But then I looked at my clothes. I ~;.
fo d my shirts in an odd way-I unbutton
t . a front and turn the collars inwards to
k iep the dint from them. But my shirts
just one, but.all of them.
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And for the moment they aee +Q~ =tss=
mod. This was all that I agreed to, that.I
gave Penkovsky presents. It could be
interpreted as bribery to Penkovsky, and
I thought this might satisfy them.
For the next five weeks or so the inter-`,
rogation centred on this. Interrogation
would take place at 10 o'clock in the
morning for two or three hours, and then,
back to the cell; and then in the afternoon
for three or four hours. Very gentle, very
business-like. -
"Now Mr. Wynne, do not be,stupid,
you must tell because we know everything.
You have admitted to giving Penkovsky'
presents, and now I want you to listen to
-just this little piece." And they would
produce a tape-recorder and there would
be Penkovsky's voice, and mine. There
was sufficient to tell me they had been
listening to conversations. There was one
in the Metropole Hotel room in Moscow,
one in a restaurant in Budapest.
And they said, "We know that you
have very friendly relations with Penkov-
sky. What is this matter you speak of ?--
You are friends. You were friends in';
London and in Paris. What is this ? " In
the conversation I could be heard saying,
'.'I wish you well, Alex," and "I have a
letter from them, for you " and Penkov-
sky's
voice-" Yes, in the letter they say
very good things." They said it was
against Soviet law to smuggle in a letter.
It meant I was a spy.
I cannot -really complain o- inhum
.period ' They were stern, reasonably
polite, food was moderate. For example
they gave me milk each day, they gave
me tea and occasionally an extra cup of
,tea at, lunch time.
They did not -shave my hair, and I was
given my civilian clothes. " You see,"-
they said, " we only took your clothes
away because we wanted to see that you'
weren't carrying anything bad in them or
anything of that sort, and we wanted - to
make sure that you weren't going to injure,
yourself. You might be. in a nervous state
and try to be foolish. Of course we don't
treat prisoners badly these days, we are
cultured people."
Having been there about a month
;.-r, had a beard. I said, fingering my
stubble, "You talk about Russian cul-
ture. Is- this Russian culture? "
"Oh, but please you can shave,
But I have an electric razor in- my ca
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Apart from the barber I never saw any,
othei> jrisoners. Nor was I allowed access
t9 `anyone from the British Embassy,
(hough I repeatedly asked. to see some-
body.
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.formed guards were to be seen ii} the also all personal articles and cigarettes.
rather shabby civilian clothes. I can only 1 had brought. As a "result I was pretty
,prison, and even the othcer wno was in I had no woollen clothes, and they
assume that this was done to put my wife
at ease. 'We' were allowed to embrace.
The conversation we had was about
Andrew, the house, our friends, and we
'didn't discuss much else. She asked me
about the food and I said, " Well it's not
quite like home. . . . " because at this
,.period it was a reasonable prison diet,
.meat and fish occasionally, and at least
I could eat most of it. They even gave
jme light-coloured bread.
. She brought a case of things with her,'
some woollen clothes, fur-lined boots,
pullovers, and she even brought a bottle
of whisky, cigarettes, things like that. The
Russians joked with her about the
whisky, and she was asked to take this
back. But I was given a carton of cig-
arettes and the photographs which she
.had left, and a letter, from Andrew, and
some books.
For four or five days after Sheila had
gone, they more or less left me alone.
But then I was brought in for interroga-
tion again. At this interrogation _there
This was the only newspaper I had;
want to look alter your tnzngs.- I cnose mere, Lily ILeuLa1LdLl.L-cU1VlICL, auu Lllv warm. I had.a long pair of cotton pants
to me and said, "Put this on." They On this occasion I stood at the table boots. When I went out to walk they,
LULU llle, I VU aL. wuab LV ?"" ~?~ pUGKeLS 1V1 CL ci tL,LL., all. r"A...a.
other people away from the prison." shouted, "You are not here now to enjoy ,View of the Sky
I was taken to the main administrative yourself I This is now serious. . .
block. We stopped 'outside a, door, and "Now you have. had time to think I `had one hour's exercise a day on, theLL`
an interpreter came out. He said, " Mr. about things, we will start with the roof of the Lubyanka, from which I could..
Wynne, when you o into this room you serious business of your spying activities. el nothing, only the sky. There was a
will be very. pleased in what you see. But And anything that has gone on before-we tower, two armed guards who were in
if you speak badly about anything the are regarding as complete and utter lies. little, boxes, and the little area of stone on
meeting will be over.' Remember that.". I. But we ;will start from the beginning. We the roof where I walked measured 12 feet
did not know what he meant. have plenty of time- and you must stay by 12, with sheet metal walls and barbed'
Hdopened the door, I walked into,tbe here in real prison conditions until you wire on top about 14 feet high.,, .
roo and there was my wife Sheila. And decide to tell us the truth." Occasionally I could hear. other'
there too ' was the lieutenant colonel They said they would start with my prisoners walking and chatting. Once I-
Sh la had also been told by them not to'. first visit to Eastern Europe, whic ! s to had a cigarette thrown over to me. If you
wanted a cigarette you just knocked once
d td in 1955. They had the date, yon the wall, and if the fellow next door
had the hotel at which I stayed, and theheyhad got them and the .soldiers were not
wanted me to start relating whom I hadlooking, he would throw one over. Jf.y
met and why I visited the country, Easter ~Se caught you got an extra, punish ;tent.
why I suddenly started to go to Eastern I took the risk
Europe. Who sent me? ,and;,threw notes over.
I simply said that my mind would not
go back as far as that, and if they knew
at which hotel I was staying, they must
have known the enterprises I had visited
and the business I had done; that -I was
'simply a business man,' and, as far as
'they were concerned I had nothin ;Ali
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Then, about two days latef; they
f ollowed --_~ ought me up from my cell, thdy
2.1 me into another room. There were alto-
in the' morning and once in the evening. I.
could shave only when I went to the bath-
room every 1.0 or 12 days. The barber,
had electric clippers, with the result that4
you never had a clean shave. The hair. they
let grow ; now it is clear to me that they,;
had in mind my appearance in a possible,
public trial.
By now the food was pretty grin.1
During this three weeks they gave me a
very bad diet indeed. I had one and a half
lumps of sugar in the morning, four inches
of black bread, about eight ounces, ghastly..'
bread which was all moist and terribly
indigestible. I had terrible gruel made:,;
from coarse grain and water, the Russian.
prison porridge, and weak tea, very weak ?s
time cleaning and polishing; because it NEXT ARTICLE: HOwTkpy
The guard couldn't 'look everywhere at. preter..
once, and occasionally while we were. And sitting on a chair was Penkovsky.
being led the guard would be distracted. I` This was what they call the show-down-.
Bad Died;
It was very nearly a starvation diet. In=
those three weeks I must have lost a lot.,:
of weight, and they were making me as.,
uncomfortable as they possibly could. .
I thought: to hell with them. If this''_"
is their attitude I shall adopt a bloody
attitude as well. Because this was the only
attitude it, wasn't going to help me or
anybody. Eventually they started ques-
tioning me, all over the same old things.
_aaain.,,We did not get very far_be_-
I just said I had nothing to tell them
written? " s
I said, "I haven't written any notes
and the guard, handed over all the papers.;
that I had been fiddling about with, draw-
ing my kitchen and several motor-cars; T
had just amused myself on it. They didn't
like it at all, and said if I persisted in this
During, all this time, of course, I was , .
not allowed communication with my wife;
no letters; no books. Nothing to read, 7"
nothing to do at all except scribble on:.
the paper I was left. At the end of three'
weeks I was again brought up for interro:.'
gation. And there again were' the general,
the colonel and the interpreter. .
" Well, you've had time to think about
things. Where are the notes you have
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