CONVERSATION WITH MR. PHIL OLDENBURY OF THE MURPHY COMMISSION ON THE ORGANIZATION OF THE GOVERNMENT FOR THE CONDUCT OF FOREIGN POLICY

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• Collection: General CIA Records
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• Document Creation Date: December 20, 2016
• Document Release Date: October 20, 2006
• Sequence Number: 9
• Publication Date: August 23, 1974
• Content Type: MFR

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AL NISTRATIVE - INTE AL USEtNL
August 23, 1974
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Conversation with Mr. Phil Oldenburg of the
Murphy Commission on the Organization of the
Government for the Conduct of Foreign Policy
PARTICIPANTS: Mr. Oldenburg
IC Staff, Ms.
Undersigned.
of the
and the
1. Mr. Oldenburg stuck pretty much to the substantive
issues Mr. Fisher Howe had indicated in his letter of August
15th that Oldenburg would raise. Much of the time was given
over to an examination of the intelligence ommunity's
evolving appreciation of thel capabilities andSTATINTL
th role in support or em as the drama unfolded
in ng, summer, and fall of 1971. had madeSTATINTL
a thorough review of the Agency's finishe in a 1gence
record on the subject and was thus able to discuss it in
detail.
2. Mr. Oldenburg also pursued, but with less clarity
and tenacity, the question of what role the mili- STATINTL
tary played in influencin s responses to the STATINTL
unfolding situation. Because of the inevitable tendency of
secondary prota crisis of the dimensions of the
one in which th found themselves, to clam up, or
at least to dissem e, in conversations with their American
interlocutors, the intelligence take on this aspect of the
situation was by no means as full as in other areas. We
told Mr. Oldenburg as much.
3. Finally, Mr. Oldenburg asked some general questions
about Indian intentions and actions at various stages of the
crisis. We had little difficulty fielding these question.
4. In general the session went smoothly enough, if
somewhat desultorily. On the few occasions when Mr. Oldenburg
seemed to be wandering into policy areas, we had no trouble
getting him back on the substantive track. This appeared to
have been his last stop; he said he had previously had long
talks with Hal Saunders and Dean Howells (the INR South
Asian specialist), among others. He clearly was running
short of questions to ask by the time he got to us.
Deputy Chief, Middle East
Africa Division, OCI 1 PLfC 7F
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