JOURNAL OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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• Document Creation Date: December 20, 2016
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• Publication Date: January 17, 1978
• Content Type: NOTES

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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Tuesday - 17 January 1978
1. (Unclassified - MLG) LIAISON Per Rodger Gabrielson's
request forwarded to Gordon Freedman, of the House International
Relations Subcommittee on International Organizations staff, sanitized
notes taken on 16 January 1978 when the following people were in
attendance: Mr. Freedman, Michael Hershman, Beverly Lumpkin,
Steve Blush and William Garvelink, all of the Subcommittee staff.
2. (Unclassified - MG) LIAISON Received a call from Bill
Schneider, Representative Jack F. Kemp's (R. , N. Y.) Defense Analyst,
who requested a copy of the report released yesterday entitled "Dollar
Cost Comparison of Soviet and U. S. Defense Activity." The document
was forwarded to him this date.
3. (Unclassified - MG) EMPLOYMENT Sent via mail to Sally
Greenspan, in the office of Representative Stewart McKinney (R. , Conn. ),
a copy of the Agency factsheet on the Summer Graduate Studies Program,
per her earlier request. I informed her that the deadline for the 1978
Program was 1 January 1978, but she asked for the factsheet anyway.
4. (Unclassified - MG) LIAISON Sent via courier to Charles
Snodgrass, House Appropriations Subcommittee on Defe se staff, a copy of
the press release on the appointment of 25x1
Director of Central Intelligence for Resource Management, and a t opyeof
the "Notes from the Director, " dated 19 December 1977.
5. (Unclassified - MG) LIAISON Sent via courier to James
Fellenbaum, Senate Appropriations Committee staff, a copy of the "Notes
from the Director, " dated 19 December 1977.
6. (Unclassified - MG) LIAISON Sent via courier to Doug Tittleson,
in the office of Representative Robert W. Kasten (R., Wis. ), some unclassified
biographies on Omar Torrijos, Chief of Government of Panama, and o
r[~STAT
7. (Unclassified - MG) LIAISON Sent via courier to Emily Thurber,
in the office of Senator Alan Cranston (D., Calif.), some maps of the Luxor
per her earlier request to Pete Palmer, OLC.
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Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel
Tuesday - 17 January 1978
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8. (Unclassified - MG) LIAISON Sent via mail to Ellen Winn, in
the office of Representative Edward P. Boland (D., Mass. ), a copy of
the Director's statement concerning public tours of the Headquarters
building per her earlier conversation with OLC.
9. (Unclassified - MG) LIAISON At the request of Pete Palmer,
OLC, sent via courier to Margie Howe, in the office of Senator Edward W.
Brooke (R., Mass.), her DOCEX listing of Agency documents which she
had sent to the Agency along with her request for several documents on
the listin 25X1
g? referred Ms. Howe to the DOCEX Project at
the Library of Congress to obtain the documents.
10. (Unclassified - RSG) LISIAON Mickey Goldsmith, Betsy Wolf
and Bob Genzman, House Select Committee on Assassinations staff, visited
Headquarters to review Agency files.
11. (Unclassified - ABS) FOIA Sent to Elliot Maxwell, Senate
Select Committee on Intelligence staff, the seventh release of
BLUEBIRD/ARTICHOKE material.
12. (Unclassified - ABS) LIAISON At the request of Pat Carpentier,
of OLC, called Walter Sheridan, who worked with the staff of the Senate
Subcommittee on Health and Scientific Research, Committee on Human
Resources, to ascertain if they wanted to receive copies of FOIA releases on
BLUEBIRD/ARTICHOKE material. Mr. Sheridan stated he would appreciate
receiving these releases.
13. (Unclassified - KSN) LIAISON Malia, on the staff of the
Senate Committee on Narcotics Abuse and Control, called inquiring as to
the date of the Senate hearings on Agency behavior modification programs.
I told her the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Human
Resources -Subcommittee on Health and Scientific Research held hearings on
3 August 1977 and 21 September 1977. She thanked me for the information.
14. (Unclassified - JMD) LIAISON Called Sally Watanabe, in the
office of Senator Daniel K. Inouye (D., Hawaii), and made arrangements for
Ambassador Carlucci to pay a courtesy call on the Senator on 25 January
at 4:00 p.m.
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Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel
Tuesday - 17 January 1978
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15. (Unclassified - JMD) LIAISON Called Elsie Vance, in
the office of Senator Gary Hart (D. , Colo.), and asked for a date when
Ambassador Frank Carlucci could meet with the Senator. Ms. Vance
said she would have to check the schedule and get back in touch with me.
16. (Unclassified - JMD) LIAISON Called Mr. D. C. Orrick,
in the office of Senator Charles McC. Mathias (R., Md.), and made
arrangements for Ambassador Frank Carlucci to pay a courtesy call
on the Senator on 24 January at 2:30 p.m.
17. (Unclassified - JMD) LIAISON Called Erica Lee, in the
office of Senator Richard Lugar (R., Ind.), and asked for a date when
Ambassador Frank Carlucci could meet with the Senator. Ms. Lee said
she would check and get back in touch with me. She asked if I would
send her a biography on the Ambassador and I said I would. (This has
been sent.)
18. (Unclassified - JMD) LIAISON Spoke with Judy Eisenhower,
in the office of Senator Barry Goldwater (R., Ariz.), and made arrangements
for Ambassador Carlucci to meet with the Senator on Monday, 23 January
at 11:00 a. m.
19. (Unclassified - JMD) LIAISON Spoke with Frances Cody,
office of Senator James Pearson (R., Kan.), and made arrangements
for Ambassador Frank Carlucci to meet with the Senator on Wednesday,
18 January at 2:00 p.m. in 5313 Dirksen Senate Office Building.
20. (Unclassified - JMD) LIAISON Spoke with Florence Roth,
in the office of Senator Daniel Moynihan (D., N.Y.), and made arrangements
for Ambassador Frank Carlucci to meet with the Senator on Friday,
20 January at 4:30 p.m. in 1107 Dirksen Senate Office Building.
21. (Unclassified - BAA) LIAISON Received a call from George
Murphy, Senate Office of Classified National Security Information, requesting
an organizational chart on the leadership of the PRC. I said I would check
on this and be back in touch.
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Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel Page 4
Tuesday - 17 January 1978
22. (Unclassified - JEC) LEGISLATION Called Bob Carlstrom,
OMB, to check on the status of several views letters. He said that S. 1720
and S. 1721 (bills to amend the Administrative Procedure Act) should be
cleared by the end of this week, and he would check with DOD to make sure
they would meet that deadline. He added that Charles Ludlam, of the Senate
Judiciary Subcommittee on Administrative Practice and Procedure, was
satisfied with this arrangement. Mr. Carlstrom also said he hoped to clear
our letter on S. 1974, the Regulatory Flexibility Act, by Wednesday,
18 January, and that he would apprise George Gilbert, on the staff of
Senator John Culver (D., Iowa), of this.
23. (Unclassified - JEC) LEGISLATION Called Charles Ludlam,
on the staff of the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Administrative Practice
and Procedure, to tell him that our views letter on S. 1720 and S. 1721,
bills to amend the Administrative Procedure Act, was still being held at
OMB, and we would get it up to the Committee as soon as it was cleared. He
said he was aware of the situation, and had no problem with it.
24. (Unclassified - RLB) LEGISLATION Received from John Elliff,
on the staff of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, a copy of draft
Title II of the charter legislation, copies of which were subsequently provided
to Agency components and the IC Staff. Mr. Elliff said he would like to have
our general comments on Title II late Thursday or early Friday, and further
that he would like to have a meeting with us to go over Title II in detail sometime
next week. He indicated he would like our comments on the substantive
provisions of Title II without concerning ourselves at this time with whether
or not any of the provisions should be addressed by regulation as opposed
to statute. He said also he would like us to look at draft Title :Mt of the
charter (the FBI charter), a copy of which was provided to us last Friday.
Finally, Mr. Elliff drew my attention to the fact that Title II contained a
section covering electronic surveillance of U. S. persons abroad; he indicated
he was thinking at this time of including this in Title II rather than as a
separate bill or as an amendment to S. 1566, the electronic surveillance
legislation currently under consideration by both Houses. Regarding Title I,
Elliot Maxwell, also on the Committee staff, said they were having some
problems in having it printed up, but st oned tef'hN.\rP ii- +., ?c +? ? orrow.
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ADDENDUM TO JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Tuesday - 17 January 1978
1. (Unclassified - THW) LIAISON Mike Van Dusen, Staff Director,
House International Relations Subcommittee on Europe and the Middle East,
called to ask if he could take a loop either in unclassified or classified form,
at the report concerning Soviet arms expenditures on which a story had
appeared in the New York Times today. I told him I would look into it and
get back to him.
2. (Unclassified - THW) LIAISON Barry Wiser, in the office of
Representative John P. Murtha (D. , Pa. ), called stating that a constituent
would like an appointment with somebody to discuss the reorganization of
the Intelligence Community. The constituent was an undergraduate student
at Kent State University, Kent, Ohio, and was doing a paper on this subject.
I told Wiser that the reorganization of the Intelligence Community was still
in flux, that many parts of it were classified and, therefore, at this time it
was not feasible for someone to discuss the matter with his constituent.
Wiser agreed.
3. (Unclassified - SF) LIAISON Received a call from Ann Moore,
in the office of Senator S. I. Hayakawa (R., Calif. ), who was requesting, for
a constituent, an atlas of Europe and the Western Hemisphere. After
checking with
NFAC /CSS, office, I informed
Ms. Moore that the constituent can obtain a copy of the Western Hemisphere
atlas from the DOCEX Project at the Library of Congress, and as far as
we know we do not have one on Europe as of yet.
4. (Unclassified - GLC) LIAISON Received a call from Ed Pinto,
Press Secretary to Senator Jacob K. Javits (R., N.Y.). Pinto said the
Senator had decided not to make his trip to Europe for reasons of 1,?a1fh
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Tuesday - 17 January 1978
5. (Confidential - GLC) LIAISON Called Mike Hershman, Deputy
Staff Director, House International Relations Subcommittee on International
Organizations, concerning the Director's meeting with the Attorney General
last Thursday regarding access to new material by the Subcommittee and
its staff.. (See Memorandum for the Record.)
7. (Confidential - GLC) LIAISON Called Tom Smeeton, House
International Relations Committee staff, to convey to him the results of
the Director's meeting with the Attorney General last Thursday on the
matter of further access to information by Chairman Donald Fraser's
(D., Minn.) Subcommittee on International Organizations. (See Memorandum
for the Record.)
8. (Confidential - GLC) LIAISON Talked with Stan Taylor, Senate
Select Committee on Intelligence staff, regarding the status of information
needed by the staff in connection with the Committee's inquiry into the
qualifications of Ambassador Carlucci for the position of DDCI. Taylor
said their inquiries were proceeding well and he saw no need for any
additional information at this time. He did express an interest in the Civil
Service Commission investigation into irregularities in HEW.
9. (Unclassified - GLC) LIAISON Talked with Jim Bush, House
Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence staff, regarding the timing of
the Director's overview briefing of the Subcommittee on Budget Authorization
as part of its consideration of the FY 79 Intelligence Community budget. Bush
said the Committee schedule allowed for only two possibilities for the Director's
appearance. One was on 3 February or on 11 February, which would be after
some of the hearings on intelligence budgets had already been presented. He
said Chairman Bill Burlison (D., Mo.) did not want to break the CCP presenta-
tion which is scheduled all day on 10 February. I told him we would take this
matter up with the Director and I was later advised the Director talked with
Chairman Burlison and it was agreed that he would make his presentation on
11 February. SECRET
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Tuesday - 17 January 1978
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11. (Confidential - LLM) LIAISON Discussed further with Mike
O'Neil, Chief Counsel, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,
the House International Relations Subcommittee on International Organizations
requests, and he will be in touch with the Attorney General's office to
explain what he believes is necessary to implement whatever understandings
have been reached with the House leadership, including the need to pursue
all leads involving unauthorized disclosure.
12. (Confidential - LLM) LIAISON Called Pete Stockton, Staff
Director, House Interstate & Foreign Commerce Subcommittee on Energy
and Power, on behalf of Marty Fitzgerald, GAO, explaining that there are
two reasons for the differences in the letters to Chairman John Dingell
(D., Mich.) and Comptroller General Elmer Staats on the further provisioning
of material relating to NUMEC. I said we would have no problem with the
Comptroller General sharing his letter with Chairman Dingell except for
that portion which identifies the interests of other committees.
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Tuesday - 17 January 1978
13. (Unclassified - DFM) LIAISON Received a call from Stan Taylor,
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence staff, who said Ambassador Frank
Carlucci had given the staff a number of news clippings reflecting
Portuguese media reaction to his nomination as DDCI. Taylor asked for
the Agency's assistance in translating the articles and said he knew
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After getting an okay from I ar range d
for to be on the Hi 1n e afternoon to assist the Committee. 25x125X1
Taylor later called to say was able to very rapidly translate
16. (Unclassified - DFM) LIAISON Received a call from Louise
Dreuth, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence staff, who asked
for a final Agency witness list for tomorrow's Subcommittee on Legislation
briefing on electronic surveillance. I read her the list.
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Tuesday - 17 January 1978
17. (Unclassified - MMP) LIAISON Called Margie Howe, in
the office of Senator Edward W. Brooke (R., Mass.), with regard to
a request from Senator Brooke's office for unclassified CIA publications
released through DOCEX. After checking with
I told Ms. Howe that the DOCEX listings were more readily available to
Congress than to us and that, while we would be willing to obtain them
for Senator Brooke, it would be both more efficient and quicker for her
to make the request of DOCEX directly. She asked that I send the list
back to her and appreciated our prompt response. The list has been
returned to her.
19. (Unclassified - MMP) CONSTITUENT Called Etta Finkler,
in the office of Senator Clifford P. Case (R., N. J. to in uire how she
wished us to handle the constituent inquiry from hich they
had sent over in a sealed envelope. She said that we could reply either
directly to the Senator or use a closed envelope, whichever suited us.
I told her that a reply would be forthcoming in a letter directly to the
Senator.
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