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12. I I In a series of conversations with
Captain Neil an o ona an, both of the Pentagon, regarding the,
request by the Senate Foreign Felations Committee for the classification
of the 1960 testimony on the U-2 and the Summit Conference,. It was
apparent that a great deal more coordination and information. was
required by all concerned (State, CIA and DOD) and Monahan volunteered
to take on the lead responsibility for this one, including clarifying with
Pat Holt, Senate Foreign Relations Committee staff, the misleading
statements in the latter's letter to all agencies involved...
13. 1 1 Spoke with Bill Hogan, House Armed
Services Committee staff, and he agreed to discuss with Frank Slat:inshek,.
Chief Counsel of the Committee, the Committee's responsibility for
the 1947 executive session hearings on the CIA Act. If the response is
favorable, then we will refer Tim I-Tardy, of, the Presidential Commission
staff, to House Armed Services for a copy.
Later, I advised Hardy of this possibility and that we hope to hear
on it sometime next week.,
Pat Hanson, temporarily in the office
of Sena to urmon S. Car. ), called to arrange a briefing
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for approximately 25 college interns. The briefing was scheduled for-
19 June and OTR, will handle.
15. Called Ed Braswell, Senate A.rrned: Services
Committee s a , an alerted him to the upcoming article on
explaining the thrust of the allegations and reviewing
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Committee staff, and alerted him to the upcoming article on 1 -1 25X1
explaining the thrust of the allegations and reviewing
with him the real facts.
17. I I Bob McBrian, '-f',.easury Department,
called to obtain suggestions on now to andle requests for sensitive
operational information by committees of Congress. I reviewed with hirn
some of the options available and the guidelines we follow.
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18. 1 1 Discussed with Prissy, in the
office of Representative Torbert Macdonald (D. , Mass.), her concern
of the error in a TASS broadcast in English from Moscow confusing
their Mr. Macdonald with Representative Larry McDonald (D., Ga.).
They became aware of this as a result of our distribution of the FBIS
take. I said I was quite sure that this was not a misinformation project
directed at their member and that there might be a simple explanation
arising out of the similarity of the names. I told her that if they went
to TASS to get a correction, we would prefer if she could handle it
without making reference to the Agency.
19. I IIn response to her call, Dorothy
Fosdick, Permanent u committee on Investigations, Senate Government
Operations Committee staff, was advised that Mr. Duckett, DDS&T, would
be available to initiate his briefing on Soviet weapons systems at 0930
on Monday, 2 June, rather than 10:00 as originally scheduled..
20. 1 Called J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel,
Subcommittee on Internal Security, Senate Judiciary Committee, and
asked him if he could check to see if a ever testified,
before any congressional committees. Sourwine said he would have
Mary Dooley, Research Assistant, check and be back in touch with us.
21.1 Attended a symposia on the Freedom of
Information and Right of Privacy Acts given by the Civic
Speakers were drawn from Committee staff, Justice, Defense and HEW.
Also, Mr. Victor Kramer of the Georgetown Law Center spoke representing
the private sector. From the comments of the various agencies, it is
apparent that there are serious problems, particularly: in reconciling the
inconsistencies between both acts, Justice is presently considering issuing
a recommendation to all agencies that they handle under the Privacy Act
when it becomes effective in September all requests from individuals seeking
to know what information agencies have concerning them. Presently, these
requests are being processed under the Freedom of Information. Act.
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8.1 Received a call from Mr. Conn.o
who said he an xs co eaques are working as agents for the Joz ee
on Taxation looking int 'C' ' iformant program and asked if we could advise
them of the procedures which we use on how payments are made, etc. I said.
I did not think we could provide any useful information on this subject but I
would be back in touch with him.
9. I I Called Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel.-, Senate
Armed Services Committee, to get his views on the possibility of our briefing
Senator James McClure on the Soviet strategic weapons program. :Braswell
said there will be considerable discussion in the near future on SALT, that he,
feels it is useful for a responsible member such as McClure to be properly
informed on the subject and he agreed with our inclination to provide the
briefing McClure has requested.
11. I I Had several conversations with. Searle Field
and Jack Boos, House Select Committee on Intelligence staff, on the subject
of Field's clearance and his access to classified documents. As a result of
these conversations, the meeting scheduled for 3:30 today was cancelled.
See Memo for Record.
12. 1 1 Received a call from Mr. Weiss in the
office of Congressman Thomas P. O'Neill, Jr. -(D. , Mass.) regarding a
CIA study entitled "USSR: Long-Range Prospects for Hard Currency Trade."
I told Weiss we had delivered copies to Congressmen who had requested the
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3. Spoke to Jim Oliver, OMB, and
told him there might be a delay in departmental responses to the
Agency's proposed unauthorized disclosure legislation because of a USIB
meeting which may be scheduled soon to unite intelligence community
forces. Oliver suggested that perhaps OMB's General Counsel and
Justice might attend such a meeting, but I told him I really thought
this was a meeting to get the intelligence community clucks in. a row-
and that we could face other issues once this has been acconm.plished.
Oliver said we should expect to soon receive from. Jim Prey,
OMB, a request for comments on S. 1 and would like u., to pay particular
attention to Section 1124 (Disclosing Classified Information) as it may
impact on the need for our proposed legislation on intelligence sources
and methods.
14. Richard Fryklund, DOD, Legislative
Affairs, calI -r~v-u~ro'rr ar.e being asked to testify on Indian
Ocean matters as they relate to Diego Garcia and in response to his
query, I told him that we had already initiated briefings on this subject
and I am sure that he will find out from his intelligence analysts that
it is our view that the situation remains pretty much as last year as
depicted in Mr. Colby's statements to the Congress with the exception.
of This was viewed as a, signifi.ca.nt:
event by most of the members we briefed.
15. I I Roberta Jones TT1qre &d-bled concerning
the Committee or Action! Research on the Intelligence Community in
connection with a cable they had received from Lagos requesting copies
of a recent issue of the magazine Counterspy. I alerted 25X1
Africa Division, and suggested to him that he might
want to find out further what lies behind this request from Lagos. Action
to do so has been initiated by
16. Dorothy Fosdick, Permanent Subcommittee
on Investigations, Senate Government Operations Committee staff, called
to request an update on the Soviet weapons by Carl Duckett, DDS&T, for
tomorrow or Monday. Eventually, a session to begin at 10:00 a. m., on
Monday was scheduled.
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5. I I Erich Foreman, Intern and on the staff
of Senator Dale L. Bumpers (D. , Ark. ), called and said the Senator would
like a briefing on the Middle East. In a later conversation Foreman said
the Senator would only permit those on his staff who have security clearances
to sit in on the briefing. Foreman said he has a TS clearance and he would
let us know the status of any other staffer who might be involved. It was
agreed that I would get back in touch. with Foreman about a possible briefing
date sometime during the week of 2 June.
~. Wilma Lehman -"ivil Service C
called to give me the status on the Daniels bill, H. R.-7-227,' right of coun.seL
An amendment has been drafted which would limit the 'right to that point.
where there is a formal adverse personnel action, but she is concerned that
no one will introduce an amendment. Representative Richard C. White
(D. , Texas) is sponsoring the amendment to fully exempt the CIA,
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V.A ndicating that this will satisfy the .Administration's objections
8. I I Senator Dick Clark (D. , Iowa) visited 25X1
Headquarters for a get-acquainted session which was hosted by the Director
and Messrs. Paul Walsh, A/DDI, NIO/SEA, and 2X1
OLU, also attended. The Senator would like to return for a tour through the
building and also to obtain a briefing on southern Africa, in light of his
Chairmanship of the Subcommittee on African Affairs, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee, and his plans to travel to southern Africa in the near future. We
will contact Julie Marshall, of the Senator's staff,,' to set up a 'date prior
to the 10t-h of June. =~,` ` { n
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10. I I Aaron Vogel, in the office of Representative
Herbert E. Harris II D. , Va. , called on behalf of a constituent, I 25X1
is a former Agency employee who has had a workman's
compensation claim for injuries sustained while employed by the Agency
pending for at least three years. the 25X1
injury involves loss of hearing. Ms. Vogel asked why the Agency was
requiring to take a second hearing test at the sitel here 25X1
the hearing loss occurred, since the first test appears adequate. I told her
I would look into the matter and call her back, OIPERS, has 25X1
been advised.
11. I I Sat in on a briefing given by
OCI, for Mike Telson, House Budget Committee staff, on the energy sources
in Venezuela and Mexico. The briefing was unclassified and was requested
by Telson for his background in connection with. his trip in a few weeks to
Central and South America as part of a cultural TT, rogr.am. The trip in
no way concerns congressional matters. Telson was most appreciative and
displayed considerable background in Central and South America having
been raised in Cuba. At the conclusion of the briefing he added that energy
and the environment will be his areas of interest on. the Budget Committee,
He volunteered that Representative Elizabeth Holtzman (D. , N. Y.. ) had
attempted to have the Agency budget reviewed by the Budget Committee,
however, the effort was defeated principally by Representative Robert N.
Giaimo (D. , Conn.) and feels that Agency matters must be handled securely
by a select group within the Congress. He felt that undoubtedly the CIA
budget will in some way eventually be reviewed by the Budget Committee.
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12. I Called Marsha Matt, lIouse Appropriations
Committee staff, and asked that she check with either. Mr. Preston or
Mr. Snodgrass, on the Committee staff, to request approval for the Agency
to destroy the typewriter ribbon used by the shorthand reporters in transcribing
the 6 May 1975 transcript of the Director's appearance before the Defense
Subcommittee, We subsequently received their approval to destroy the ribbon.
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Friday - 16 May 1975
1. (Unclassified - GLC) Called George Murphy, staff of the Joint:
Committee on Atomic Energy, to discuss storing material for the Senate
Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations With Respect to
Intelligence Activities. Murphy agreed in principle with our storing material.
there but said the arrangement would have to be cleared with several memberx
of the JCAE, most important of whom would be Senator Pastore. He also
said he would have to have something in writing as to who would have access
to the material. This was passed on to STAT
2. (Unclassified - GLC) Called Dick Kaufman, Joint Economic
Committee staff, and gave him the dates of the 17th through the 25th of June
for the Director's appearance before Senator Proxmire's Subcommittee on.
Economies and Priorities in Government. Kaufman will be back in touch
to confirm a date.
3. (Unclassified - GLC) Received calls from Dr. Stevens, ADD/S&T,,
and F- I OSI, with further reference to the request GAO has made
tgAfor a briefing on nuclear safeguards. There appears to be some
difference of opinion as to whether the Agency or ERDA should handle this
briefing. I talked with Marian Czarnecki, Staff Director, House International
Relations Committee, who acknowledged they had made such a request to ERDA,
was surprised that we might be the Agency involved in providing the information
but said if we were he would agree with my proposal that we handle the matter
directly with the Committee. (He mentioned three different Subcommittees
are involved in this.) He said he would not, however, extend this same
arrangement to ERDA. I passed this information back to ]who said he STAT
would discuss it further with Stevens. STAT
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10. (Unclassified - GLC) Accompanied the Director and
to a session with the Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental
Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities. See Memo for. Record..
11. (Unclassified - JMD) Called Mildred Ward, Secretary to
Senator John Stennis, and told her that when was wi.t:h the? STAT
Senator yesterday, the Senator asked for a briefing on Soviet: hardware f7r
next Monday or Tuesday. I asked if she would set a time and date. She said
she had to check with the Senator and would be back in touch.
12. (Unclassified - JMD) Lee McKenna, in the office of Representative
M. Caldwell Butler, called and asked for several sets of application forms.
STAT I kent these out.
STAT
13. (Unclassified - JMD) Mark Kliman, in the office of Representative,
Les Aspin, called and said he had talked to someone, he thought
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STAT
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some weeks ago and would like to talk to him again to clarify some points, I
said I would see if I could locate him and call back.
I talked with who said Kliman had talked to ~befar TAT
but they did not want Kliman to have phone number--they want Klixnan TAT
calls to come to this Office instead of directly to I He said, however, hSTAT
would have all Kliman back and answer his questions,
14. (Unclassified - GLC) Received a call from Maurice Eisenstein,
Acting Deputy Director, Division of International Security Affairs ho
said they have received a request fro hick states that in connection with
a study they are doing on behalf of the 1lous International Relations Committee,,
they would like an intelligence briefing on the effectiveness of nuclear safeguards..
Eisenstein was agonizing over how to handle this. I told him that. if a request of
this sort came to the Agency, I would contact Marian Czarnecki:, Staff Director
of the Committee, and deal with him directly on the matter cutting GAO out of
the circuit completely. I said as far as I knew none of the people in GAO had the
proper clearances for briefings at the level that would be required on. this subjcect
anyway.
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15. (Unclassified - JMD) Barbara Grabon, in the office of Les Janka
of the White House, called and cancelled the Legislative Inter departmental.
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5? Following J. Sourwine's, Chief Counsel.,
Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Internal Security, call tol 25X1
requesting that the Subcommittee interview 25X1
preliminary meeting by members of the Subcommittee staff was best before
he is interviewed by a member. I subsequently called Sourwine and confirmed
the arrangement. He asked that the meeting he held before the end of May.
Robert F. Drinan D. Mass. ), called on behalf of a constituent,
Massachusetts, and asked the procedures that
the constituent should follow to appeal his request to the Agency under the
FOX Act. I explained our appeal procedures. I subsequently discussed the
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7. I I Tim Hardy of the Presidential Commission.
staff called to request copies of bills that had been introduced that affect the
Agency's charter in a major way. The material was sent to Hardy via
Mr. Knoche, Assistant to the Director.
JCalled NSA,_ to request: 25X1
his inputs L==7=t, UVAIIIIJULt- in line with the -suggestion of II 25X1
DIA/General Counsel. said NSA would like to come under the
umbrella of the joint committee.
I also. reviewed the status of the Daniels' bill (I-I. R. 6227, right of
counsel for Federal employees) and the indications that we probably will
receive a full exemption along with NSA ands F pursuant to the letter
request of the Director to Chairman David Henderson, House Post Office
and Civil Service Committee. I also informed him of the Iiouse'Ar.n-i 'd
Services Committee interest if the full exemption is not granted, to obtain
the approval of the Speaker that the Parliamentarian refer the bill to the
Armed Services Committee. cA yt%;'A
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Called Representative Richard White
(D. , Tex.) to Manx im or ie reva.slon in H. R. 6227 (right of counsel
to Federal employees) that he had made and told him. that we still had
problems on the principle of the bill that even with the revision the bill
would constitute a dilution of the Director's statutory authority with
respect to the termination of employees in the interest of the United
States. Mr. White appreciated the call and said he understood our position,
that Mr. Daniels had indicated he would propose an amendment to grant
CIA, NSA. and~_i1-T a full exemption and although he (Mr. White) did not
believe this was the best course he would not fight it in Committee.
Mr. White is doubtful that the Committee will get to the bill at the next
full Committee session. I told Mr. White that I can appreciate his
position but that I did think it might be best to await the outcome of the
deliberations of the I-louse Select Committee before making any adjustments
in the Director's authorities and responsibilities.
10. I I Called Dave Bowers,, to advise
him of my conversation with Representative Richard White (D., Tex.) and
Bowers said that his assessment, based on his own readings, is that we will
succeed in obtaining a full exemption.
12. I Dorothy Fosdick, Professional Staff
Director, ~rxxxzcrr~ri~~~~r~xx~~rrr~, ee on Investigations, Senate Government
Operations Committee, called and said that Senator Henry M. Jackson.
(D. , Wash.) wanted Richard Perle, of the Subcommittee staff, and herself
to be updated on new Soviet weapons development and asked if Mr. Duckett:
could. come up and brief them tomorrow. Mr. Duckett's office has been
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13. IEnaily Thurber, in the office of Senator
Alan Crandrvxj. . , 7iii.. ), caLect requesting a briefing for the Senator
on the Subcontinent as background for a speech he intends to make.
Thurber had no problems with the groundrules I reviewed.
OCI, has been alerted.
14., I Spoke with Bill Kreiger, and Paul
Daley, r regarding the FBI's input to the paper on a joint comm.ittee.
Kreiger said that Frank Schwartz, FBI Liaison, would drop by tomorrow
to review what we would like from them.
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15. I Austin Smith, Defense Subcommittee,
House Appropriations Committ-ee, called and said they would like to have
transcripts of the Director's testimony before the Subcommittee for 17 and
22 April and 6 May of this year. These were delivered and Mr. Gary
picked them up at the end of the day for return to Headquarters.
16. 1 Hand-carried to Charles Snodgrass, Defense
Subcommittee staff, House Appropriations Committee, a package of Agency
responses to questions which they had raised. In addition there was one
response which was to be orally given to Snodgrass. He insisted, however,.
on having the written version of it which I exhibited and I permitted him to
have it.
17. I I Per instructions of I stopped 25X1
the Housu o a er om e and picked up a copy of the current House Rules
18. I Representative Robert McClory, Ranking
Minority member of the House Select Committee on Intelligence, called about:
Representative Michael Harrington's' legal action pending against CIA. He said
he wanted information on this and has asked his Legislative Assistant, Allen
Rexinger, to check into this. He wanted to know if we could help him. I said we
would be glad to help and would give him a copy of. 1. he complaint. I said there
were several other members who have filed suit against the Director and the
President. McClory said he would like to know about these also. I said I would
deliver these to Rexinger this afternoon.
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Meeting with Representative James Hanley (D., N. Y.),
1 May 1975
1. Met with Representative James Hanley (D., N. Y.) concerning
his. 22 April 1975 letter to GSA Administrator Arthur Sampson and
explained the actual facts of ownership and the concept behind the
Executive Branch's firm no comment policy. Mr. Hanley was in
complete agreement with the policy, appreciated our efforts in
keeping him informed and said he would make no mention of the
topics we had discussed. In response to my query, he said that in.
view of what I had just told him, no response to his letter to GSA is
necessary but he recommended that we brief Mr. Sampson on the facts,
if he does not already know them. Mr. Duckett, DDS&T, has been advised.
2. I also discussed with Mr. Hanley the Daniels' bill, now
H. R. 6227 (right of counsel of Federal employees). I said that although
Representative Richard White,(D. , Tex.) had made a..number of concessions
to us which are truly appreciated in the new version of the bill, unless
we receive a full exemption in line with Mr. Colby' s letter to Chairman
David Henderson, House Post Office and Civil Service Committee (copy
of which I gave Hanley), enactment of the bill would constitute a dilution
of the Director's statutory authority to terminate employees in the interest
of the United States and could otherwise tend to undermine our personnel
objectives which is not an adversary situation as it could become under a
bill such as this, but one which must have the highest regard for personnel
but also sufficiently firm to identify vulnerabilities which could be exploited
by hostile intelligence services. Mr. Hanley appeared to be completely
sympathetic to our position and appreciated our bringing this matter to
his attention.
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3. Mr. Hanley also reminisced about the status of the Ervin
bill, indicating that he would have liked to have seen it passed as a
tribute to Senator Sam Ervin, confident that in conference Mr. Hanley
would have sustained a complete exemption for CIA, NSA, and FBI.
He talked about the abuses the bill was to correct. and I told him that
the mere action on the bill had perhaps led to correction of problems
in the Executive Branch and cited several examples, but also that
general legislation of this type in correcting these few abuses would
unfortunately, in the process create a personnel management climate
not in the Government's best interest of strengthening supervisory
responsibilities.
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12. I In follow up of the Director's letter
of 5 May 1975 to Representative Paul McCloskey (R. , Calif. ), called
Julie Pineau, Secretary, and we tentatively agreed to 11:00 a. m.,
Wednesday, 14 May for a briefing of the Congressman on Thailand,
Taiwan and Korea. OCI, has been advised.
13. I I Called
regarding DOD's input on the joint committee paper.
written comments are being forwarded to us.
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Sca is referred me to John Hoclus of thjXOU"
Called John Hodus, FBI, concerning
their contribution to the joint committee paper. Hodus saidHe ould have
someone get in touch with us.
16. Called Bill Hogan, House Armed
Services Committee staff, in response to his earlier request to Mr.
and gave him a rundown on the contents of H. R. 6227 (right
of counsel to Federal employees), our position and what we have done
to date. Hogan agreed that it would be a serious dilution of the Director's
statutory authority and that if the bill is not reported out with a full
exemption by the House Post Office and Civil Service Committee, he was
going to recommend that the Armed Services Committee go to the
Parliamentarian to get them to refer the bill to the~Ilouse Armed Services
Committee.
17. 1 I Bill Jones, INR/State Department,
called concerning the draft comments of the Department on our proposed
intelligence sources and methods legislation. See Memo for Record for
details.
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.-contact Bob Andrews at DOD for further inputs to t: xe paper.
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Called Wilma Lehman, G , x` c rv c
emission,, an gave her a status report on the Daniels' bill (H. R. 6227,
right of. counsel for Federal employees). I told her I did not think we should
be comforted by the fact that there are adverse reports from. executive agencies
and that from what I am getting from the Hill, much more personal work
should be done, perhaps by Chairman Hampton or Mr. Jacobsen, CSG.
Ms. Lehman was not on top of the recent developments and the waning
of support for Executive Branch positions and promised to raise the
problem with the Commission obviously before Thursday when the I-louse
Post Office and Civil Service Committee next meets to consider legislation.
5. I I Called Dave Bower egarding
the Daniels' bill (H. R. 6227) and he said he does believe that- .e succeeded
in turning Representative Dominick Daniels (D. , N. J. ) around to support
a full exemption and we agreed to stay in touch so we could keep abreast
of each others activities on the bill.
6. I I Brady Williamson, Legislative Assistant
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the Senator had been on the Hill for two years and this first experience
with the Agency and the talent it possesses had impressed him greatly.
In view of this expression of interest, it was agreed that it might be a good
idea for Senator Clark to visit the Agency perhaps for breakfast and meet
some of our people. Williamson will provide us a date.
7. I I Charles Snodgrass, House Appropriations
Committee staff, called and requested in connection with tomorrow's briefing
that we provide him, this afternoon or tonight, all of the contracts on a
sensitive project. With the concurrence of Sayre Stevens, DDS&T, I
contacted DDS&T/SPS, and Snodgrass reviewed the major
contracts and letters. Although I was not able to remain throughout the
session, it was obvious that Owas doing an excellent job in fitting
Snodgrass' interests. I also gave to Snodgrass the basic data on the cost
of the program which was used in preparing the letter to Chairman John
Stennis (D., Miss.) of 20 March 1975. This was to satisfy an expressed
concern to Carl Duckett, DDS&T, concerning figures earlier given him
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letters by constituent F
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Discussed, with Betty Scott, in the office
Jr. (D. , N. J. ), the background of the
o the Agency. i.rst letter to the Agenc'5X1
eiy vituperative an reatened the D~ ec or and was forwarded to
fha Sr~r-,?a! G~rtr't_r F, and the FRT I also explained that such letters are
unanswered. After reading the letter to Miss Scott, she said she clearly
understood and that we need not reply to Senator Williams' letter to this
Agency on behalf of the constituent. She said she would discuss the matter
personally with the Senator and would call me only if necessary.
20. Delivered to Jack Boos, Intelligence
Subcommittee stall, I- louse Arme Services Committee, the Agency's letter
to advising him that the Agency could not utilize his machine
translation device.
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Paul N. McCloskey, Jr. (R. , Calif. ) a letter from the Director to the
Representative regarding a requested briefing concerning Korea, Thailand
and Taiwan.
Vietnamese archives were destroyed. I told her I had checked and our people;
are still trying to get information on individuals, but as far as we know the
Thieu government was in the process of destroying some things. I said we
really have no specific information on this subject, however. I said I had
asked our people to keep their eyes open and let me know if they find anything
ouocommlttee on Investigations, of the Government Operations Committee,
connection with her earlier call as to what we know about whether the South
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a meeting with the Speaker of the House,Carl Albert. Following
briefing of substantive intelligence matters, we engaged in a very constructive
discussion concerning committee oversight of the Agency in the I-louse.
(See I emorandum for the Record.)
10. I I Met with Representative James Hanley
(D. , N. Y.) concerning his 22 April 1975 letter to GSA Administrator
Arthur. Sampson and also concerning the Daniels' bill H. R. 6227 (right
of counsel of Federal employees). See Memorandum for the Record.
11. I I Met with Bob Lockhart,. House
Post Office and Civil Service Committee, who said that the revised
Daniels bill, H. R. 6227, perhaps might come up next Thursday and
that Mr. Daniels, who Dave Bowers of the FBI thinks will propose the
vwnlpm~ ing.
full amendment for CIA, NSA and FBI, is w
12. Spoke to Dave Bowers I3I and -
informed him that Representative Dominick Daniels (D. , N. J..) appeared.
to be wavering and supporting an amendment to the Daniels bill for a
full exemption for our Agency. Bowers said he was aware of this and
thinks he has now straightened out the matter and said. that Representative
Richard White' s (D. , Tex. ) Legislative Assistant had told. him that the
Agency was completely happy with the bill as revised following my session
with Mr. White. Bowers agreed that the revisions were indeed very
constructive but that the FBI still needed a full exemption and I told him
I would see Mr. White early next week to straighten out any misunderstandings
that may exist with respect to the Agency's official position.
13. I I Met with Carl Blake, in the office of
Representative ona Meg -Le (D. , Mich. ), in response to an earlier
request and provided him retyped versions of the articles in Mr. Riegle's
file that was maintained in the Agency. Following this, Mr. Blake discussed
a number of considerations that he felt impacted upon the current attitude
in Congress concerning the CIA. He was supportive of the Agency's functions
but felt that we had managed to stay out of the tension and. conflict in American
society for a quarter of a century and this was bound to happen, if not now,
at a later time. He was obviously gratified to-hear that despite the heavy
requirements being imposed upon the Agency by the investigations, that we
were dedicated to continuing to perform the functions for which we were
established and observed in the long run this would be our salvation,
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