JOURNAL - OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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• Publication Date: August 12, 1975
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9.
Charles Snodgrass, House Appropriation
Defense Subcommittee staff, called and we briefly reviewed the discussion
between he and yesterday. Snodgrass said that the
decision at this point is tentative at best and he would like to get
together within early September following the Far East trip.
10. Received a call from Peter Poole,
in the office of Senator Charles Percy (R., Ill. ). Ile said they were
interested in any reports out of the People's Republic of China on
the congressional delegation's visit there. He indicated that for some
reason they have not been receiving the FBIS reports and they were
particularly interested in any Chinese comment on the Senator's recent
visit there. I told him I would check on this and. someone would be
back in touch.
11. Talked with Les Janka, NSC staff,
about the material we had pulled together `which was responsive to the
Sparkman/Fascell/ GAO inquiries regarding theMaya ier incident. We
discussed possible responses to Chairman Sparkman and Janka suggested
that in effect we send an interim reply in view of the highly sensitive
security classification of the post mortem and SitReps which were involved.
We could then offer to either brief the Committee in executive session or
sit down with the Chairman and discuss the matter further with him. A
reply along the lines suggested by Janka has been drafted and sent to the
Director.
12. I In response to his earlier call, I contacted
Ralph Preston, House Appropriations Defense Subcommittee staff, to tell him
we had checked our files on Agency briefings of their Subcommittee on Chile and
found there were in fact two briefings in which there were transcripts and one
in which there was no transcript in which Chile was mentioned. I identified. the
transcripts as being briefings on 2 and 3 March 1971 and 3 February 1972 and the
other one, for which there was no transcript, was 1 June 1972. Preston said
since the request and the Chairman's interim answer clearly relate only to
transcripts, he was not interested in any others. He also indicated and I agreed
that in view of the sensitivity of the material involved. in some of these briefings
that he intended to provide the Department of Justice with only those pages of the
transcripts that dealt with testimony on Chile. He asked if we would Xerox copies
of those pages and send them to him on Thursday. I said I would do so. He
pointed out that the Chairman's interim answer to the Justice Department does
not make a commitment to provide this material but does indicate that the
Chairman will raise this matter with the Subcommittee when the Congress returns
from recess in September-
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`. Contacted Guy McConnell, Senate
Appropriations Committee staff, Clark McFadden, Senate Armed Services
Committee staff, and Elly Vogtmann, of Pat Holt' s staff on the Senate
'oreinRelations C'nmm;tfi- and asked that they make notations in, their
records that on this date we had contacted the Committee to indicate that
the Director had received a new Presidential finding under the Foreign
Assistance Act on which he was prepared to brief the Committees.
(Obviously, this would have to wait the Committees' return in September.)
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General Counsel, Senate Agriculture Committee, indicating an interest
in information from the Agency regarding crop report studies which the
staff must submit to the Committee upon its return in September. He
is specifically interested in a briefing on Soviet grain production. I told
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of their staff, and had planned to contact him today for just such a purpose.
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for a briefing of himself and Henry Casso, Chief Economist, whom he
mentioned was also interested. The briefing was scheduled for 9:00 a.m.
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Oppenheimer, UAU, asking where things stood with respect to their
requests for information to be included in the study being prepared on behalf
of Representative Dante Fascell's.(D., Fla.) Subcommittee on International
Political and Military Affairs, of the House International Relations Committee,
having to do with the Mayaguez affair. I told Oppenheimer that we had pulled
together considerable information on this but indicated that we were awaiting
guidance from the NSC staff as to how to proceed. In response to my question,
Oppenheimer , aid they had been in touch with the NSC staff and were advised
that they in turn were attempting to get guidance from Dr. Kissinger or
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10. Received a call from Ralph Preston,
Staff Assistant, Defense Subcommittee, House Appropriations Committee,
concerning a letter Chairman George H. Mahon (D., Texas) has received
from the Assistant Attorney General requesting access to certain
Committee documents. (See Memorandum for the Record.)
II. The Director called to advise of a telephone
conversation he had today with Joseph Sisco, Under Secretary for Political
Affairs, State Department, regarding events which transpired during the
testimony of Deputy Secretary Robert S. Ingersoll before a Subcommittee
of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee last week. (See Memorandum
for the Record.)
I2. During the course of the afternoon, I
again had several conversations with Howard Feldman, Chief Counsel,
Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Senate Government Operations
Committee. The conversation began with Feldman advising me that
Senator Henry M. Jackson (D., Wash.) was putting out a press release
today stating that there would be a significant shortfall in Soviet grain
production this year and on the basis of new information he (Jackson) had
received there were indications that the shortfall might double that of 1972.
(See Memorandum for the Record.)
13. Called Natalie Desmond, secretary to
a Mr. Brown who is the Special :Assistant to the Secretary of Transportation.
Ms. Desmond had called OGC, regarding the legislative
history of the section in the National Security Act proscribing. police,
subpoena, and law enforcement powers of internal security functions, and
Sheila asked me if I would call Ms. Desmond. I gave her the numbers of
the reports and hearings on the 1947 pct, but none of them touched upon
the domestic activities section. I told her I would see what else we had
and get back to her next week.
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Thursday - 7 August 1975
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1. (Internal Use Only - RJK) Delivered to the offices of
Senators Dick Clark (D., Iowa), Jacob K. Javits (R . , N. Y-), Mike
Mansfield (D., Mont.), Edmund S. Muskie (D., Maine) and Charles H.
Percy (R., Ill.) and Representatives Carl Albert (D., Okla.) and Clement
Zablocki (D., Wisc.) FBIS items in which their names were mentioned.
2. ' (Unclassified - RJK) Delivered. a package of maps to the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee mail room for Richard Moose, of the
staff.
3. (Unclassified - RJK) Delivered a package of information for
Brian Atwood, on the staff of Sen or Thomas F. Eagleton (D. , Mo.), per
arrangements made by
4. (Unclassified - RJK) Delivered a letter from Mr. Cary to the
office of Representative Charles C. Diggs, Jr. (D., Mich.).
5. (Unclassified - RJK) In the absence of Richard Kaufman, General
Counsel, Joint Economic Committee, left some material with his secretary.
It contained graphics for inclusion in the Committee's forthcoming publication
resulting from the Director's testimony before the Subcommittee on Priorities
and Economy in Government on 18 June. I advised his secretary that we
would appreciate return of proof prints of the negatives when Kaufman is
finished with them. I also mentioned that when galley proofs of the Committe
print are available, our people would be happy to review them in keeping with
the agreement with Kaufman.
6. (Unclassified RJK) Met with Tom Smeeton, Minority Staff,
House International Relations Committee, and provided him, per his request,
with a copy of the Director's prepared statement before the House Select
Committee on Intelligence of 6 August.
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regarding the letter we received from Chairman John Sparkman, S na
Foreign Relations omm;ttee re the Mayaguez incident. (I had forwarded
a copy to Janka for his information, especially since the NSC staff is involved
in contact with the House International Relations Committee on a study. GAO
is doing on that Committee's behalf on the Mayaguez.) Janka suggested we
go ahead and work up a draft response to the Sparkman letter using the
chronology which has been used by Bob Miller, Deputy Assistant Secretary
of State. According to Janka, State has prepared a draft response to
Sparkman along these lines and he suggested we coordinate with Alex Schnee,
State Department Congressional Relations staff, in preparing our draft.
I used this opportunity to ask Janka where things stood with respect
to the House International Relations Committee study being conducted by GAO.
He said he was trying to get some guidance from Dr. Kissinger on this and
as soon as he had further information he would be back in touch with us.
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Investigations, several times during the course of the afternoon regarding
the Soviet grain situation. A meeting with Feldman and Stuart Statler,
Minority Counsel, had been scheduled for 2:00 this afternoon,. but it became
necessary to cancel that session since we were awaiting White House approval.
on passing our new estimated Soviet grain figure to the Hill. Without identifyinj
the White House, I bought time with Feldman and ultimately,after the Director
talked with General Scowcroft, I advised Feldman the Soviet grain figure estima
had been reduced to 165 million tons, but he should regard that figure as
confidential until it is announced otherwise. Feldman was most understanding
throughout my numerous conversations with him during the afternoon and said
he would notify Statler of the information I had given him. I also told him we
would probably be in touch with him tomorrow to reschedule the briefing.
Feldman noted that :.f, in fact, the agreed figure was 1.65 million tons,
this posed a number of serijus problems which could affect all sorts of things
including our negotiations with the Soviets on SALT. I told him he probably
could then understand why we had to await policy approval before giving him
this figure which I again reminded should be treated on -a confidential basis.
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5? Talked with Howard 1--eldrna.n., Chief
Counsel, Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Senate Government
Operations Committee, and told. hirri that we expected to have our information
on Soviet grain production in some kind of shape to report to them very
shortly and that we would ge:t in touch with him as soon as we were in a
position to arrange a meeting.
I also brought up the subject of Feldman and David Vienna's, of
the Subcommittee staff, interest in talking with us further about the
allegations of CIA. involvement in counterfeiting U.S. currcnrv_ 7 i-r,'ir1
,uiiii it was xriy unuerstancting thatl had been in touch with him and
was available at Feldman's convenience. Feldman confirmed this and said
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e had delayed in getting together with because of the absence
Vienna on leave. He said they plan to get together in the near future.
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Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Criminal Laws and Procedures, and
discussed section 1124, providing criminal penalties for the unauthorized
disclosure of classified information in S. 1, and the recent comments by
the Justice Department to the Agency's proposed legislation to protect
intelligence sources and methods. Sum. mitt stated that the section is
unchanged from the version provided to us several months ago but asked
that I check with him later to be certain,
8. balled Gassy Benson, Executive
Assistant to Representative John E. Moss (D. , Calif. ), and. told her that
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Congressman has no intention of returning until the end of the recess but when
he does return She will tell him of our call.
would be available to continue going over the material he had been discussing
with Pepresentit:ive Moss. Ms. Benson said that as far as she knows the
should the Congressman come back into town during the recess
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14. (Internal Use Only - RJK) Mr... Thuerzner's office (A/DCT)
called to advise that in response to his request:, they had forwarded a
copy of the Agency publication ''Potential Implications of 'fronds in World.
Population, Food Production and Climate" to Representative Donald D.
Clancy (R. , Ohio ).
15. (Internal Use Only ?- RJK) Spoke with Ellie Vogtmna.nn, Senate
FoI.eign P el .tinn Cnmmitt-eee staff, and advised her that the transcript. -
of the Director's report on a Presidential finding to the Chairman,
Senator John Sparkman(D., Ala.) and Senator Clifford P. Case (R., N.. J. )
of 25 July was complete and available upon. the request of the Committee.
She appreciated the call and agreed that the scrap mma.ter.i_al from the
hearing could be disposed of.
16. (Unclassified ._ DFM) Received a call .from. Dan Murphy,on the
staff of Represen.tative'Norma.n. Mineta (D. , Calif. ). Murphy was handling
an inquiry from a constituent who had asked the Congressxna.n to find out
who was suing the Agency over the allegations of illegal domestic acti.vit:ies
and where the suits were being heard. Murphy ask(-,(] if we could supply
him this information. Apparently the constituent is irate about the allega-
tions and may want to contact: the plaintiffs. I replied that I would check
on this matter and get back to
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Mark Kleiman, Legislative Assistant
Les Aspin (D., Wis.), called to review the. statutory,
constitutional and Executive Order basis for classification systems and
the difference between security clearance for determi_ning..sui:tability and
loyalty for handling classified material and the controlling of access to
sensitive compartmented information in furtherance of the need-to--know
principle. Kleiman said he would review the citations and other works 1. had
cited for him and in response to his query, I told him he could call
to Representative
OGC, for any further elaboration..
12. I Called Vernon C. Login, Deputy
Assistant for Legislative Affairs (Hous.e) at the White House, and determined.
State Department will handle the Executive Branch ; espouse. to JRepreserntative
Charles Diggs' (D., Mich.) 29 June 1975 cable to multiple, a.cidresisees including
CIA, on U. S. dealings with Zaire. No action is required, of CIA.
13. Called Werner W, Brandt,. Legislative,
Assistant to Representative Thomas Foley (D., Wash.. ),, Chairman of the.
House Agriculture Committee, by way of follow up to the Director's c;onversat3_on
with Chairman Foley last night. I told Brandt I just wanted to. be in touch with,
him in view of the cancellation and to advise hire we had also bean in touch
with the Majority and Minority Staffs of the Senate Permanent Investigations
Subcommittee, Senate Government Operations Committee, on the same subject.
I explained we had briefed the Majority Staff last week but the figures used in
that briefing were now inaccurate and would have to be changed. I told b.in-i I
just wanted hini to understand (should he hear of our session with the Permanent
Investigations Subcommittee staff) that we were not refusing a briefing of the
Committee while talking with another group. Branch said het understood
completely but asked if it would be possible for Robert for, Hyde Murray)
in the next few weeks to discuss the whole situation. I said I was sure this
could be arranged and I would be back in touch with. him when we had some
relatively firm figures to talk about.
Gene Moose an himself to come to the Agency and sit down with
14. Called Bill Ashworth, ttio~ s
Committee staff, by way of follow up to his conversation with about
referc,nces y Brezhnev to the "typhoon. " I told hire this was not an allegorical
reference, that in fact tl e Soviets do have some sort of follow-on program to
their ]ate#;t'subrnarine hi t we have virtually no information on this... I
mentioned, however, tha: th.e Soviets had made reference to the te.rrrn "typhoonn''
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Received a call from Pat Holt, Chief of
:ona_#renTnTit ee, who said in follow up to our
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meetinwith the Chairman and Senator Case the other day, the Chairman
would like the Director to get together with Senator Dick Clark before he
travels to Africa and give him a fill-in on some of the material covered
in the Director's session the other day. I told Holt I thought there would
be no problem on this but I would take it up with the Director.
16. In separate meetings I saw Frank Slatinshek,
Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, and Ralph Preston and
Chuck Snodgrass, House Appropriations Defense Subcommittee staff, and
covered the following items with them: (a) left copies of the Director's two
letters to Chairwoman Bella Abzug, House Government Operations Subcommittee
on Government Information and Individual Rights, relating to the appearances
of Messrs, before her Subcommittee; (b) mentioned
the fact that under a recent agreement with the military the Agency would
have al
(c) advised them regarding the establishment of
an FBIS ticker in the Congressional Research Service of Library of Congress.
17. Met with Representative Dan Daniel (D. , Va.. )
and provided him with some information in response to his request about a
note he had received thought the mail from England. I provided Daniel with
the basic information contained in a memo from the Director of Security
dated 25 July 1975 and suggested he might want to follow up on this matter
with the FBI. Daniel thanked me for this information.
Met with Representative Edward Derwin ski by
way of follow up to constituent correspondence he had forwarded to us for
information several days ago. This had to with developments in Belize. I
provided Derwinski with some background information on the situation in Belize
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note which were provided b The Congressman was most
appreciative and in.-response to my query as to why his source believed that.
Belize was possibly going under the influence of Cuba, said he would be glad to
follow up on this and see what he could find out,
Derwinski volunteered that he would be happy to get together with u5X1A
upon his return from his trip to China during the conga e s signal recess. I
told him we would be most anxious to tal tt
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