JOURNAL OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL WEDNESDAY - 30 APRIL 1969

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Wednesday - 30 April 1969
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1. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Mr. I nd I met with Ed Braswell,
Senate Armed Services Committee staff (who was preoccupied with the
military procurement hearings) concerning the impact of the Daniels bill on
the CIA retirement system. On the positive side Braswell agreed to the
necessity for similar adjustment of the benefit structure of the CIA system.
His offhand reaction to riding piggyback on the Daniels bill in the Senate Post
Office and Civil Service Committee concerned the jurisdictional problem.
He also indicated that early action by the Senate on the Daniels bill is not a
foregone conclusion at this time. We said we would like to meet with him
again to explore this matter further, and he agreed that this would be a good
2. (Unclassified - CEA) In concerning the
I informed M' e
employment status of an applicant,
in the office of Representative Robert Mollohan (D. , W. P. ), that Mis
processing should be completed in mid-Ma M$ss Fye asked if we would send
a copy of whatever letter we send to Miss Ito the Congressman, which 25X1
I arranged with the Office of Personnel. 25X1
3. (Internal Use Only - CD) Received a call from Mrs. Booher, in
the office of Senator George Murphy (R., Calif.), who requested an employment
interview fo After making arrangements with Mr.
Office of Personnel, I advised Mrs. Booher that an appointment 25X1
had been scheduled for 11:00 this morning.
4. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Spoke with Mr. Gene Hegarty, Adminis-
trative Assistant to Representative Daniel J. Flood (D. , Pa. ), to advise that
the Civil Service Commission had approved the disability retirement of
the subject of their inquiry to us in September of 1968. Mr. Hegarty
thanked us for this information and requested that we send Flood a letter when
the first annuity check is sent, possibly some time in June or July.
Office of Personnel, has been requested to monitor this with the
Commission.
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5. (Unclassified - JMD) Charlotte Kludzuweit, Personal Secretary
to Representative Edward J. Derwinski, called and said the Congressman
would like either Mr. Maury or to drop by and see him on Monday, 25X1
5 May at 10:30. She was advised that one or the other would be there.
6. (Unclassified - GLC) Miss Judith Spahr , on the staff of the Senate
Subcommittee on National Security and International Operations, called and
expressed an interest in another article which appeared in the same issue of
Kommunist as the article by General Yepishev. The new article deals with
the Brezhnev doctrine and defends the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia.
7. (Confidential - GLC) Met with Mr. Dean Pohlenz, Administrative
Assistant to Senator Roman L. Hruska (R. , Neb.), for a preliminary discussion
of our problems with S. 782. (Senator Milton Young (R. , N. Dak.) had suggested
that we talk with Pohlenz before talking with Senator Hruska personally.)
Pohlenz appeared interested and sympathetic to our situation. He also gave
some constructive suggestions and information on the Constitutional Rights
Subcommittee's procedures. He plans to talk to Senator Hruska about this with
a view to arranging for us to meet with the Senator some time next week. (See
Memorandum for the Record for details.)
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9. (Confidential - JGO) Talked to Mrs. Mary McLaughlin, Senate
Foreign Relations Committee staff, and received from her the current address
for Mr. William Bader who recently left the Committee staff. During the
conversation I advised Mrs. McLaughlin that Mr. Maury had talked to Senator
Pell and that Senator Pell's question to her concerning Agency response to
questions during the Directors appearance April 23 related to the listing of
questions provided by the Committee staff for response by the Agency. She
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Tuesday - 29 April 1969
1. (Secret - GLC) Mr. Frank Hand, in the Office of Secretary of
Defense, called to say that at Secretary Laird's request he was sending to
the Director a list of congressional staff clearances. Mr. Hand thought
we would be interested in this.
2. (Unclassified - GLC) Mr. Arnold Brustin, on the staff of
Senator Gaylord Nelson (D. , Wis. ), called and suggested Thursday afternoon,
6 May, for our briefing of the Senator. After checking with the Director's
office, this was set up for 2:30 p.m. on that day.
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3. (Confidential - GLC) Messrs. Maury and~alked with
William Woodruff, on the staff of the Senate Appropriations Committee,
regarding the Agency's problems in the retirement field generally and
with regard to congressional action on the Daniels bill in particular.
Mr. Woodruff said he could see objections to our obtaining any legislation
through the Foreign Relations and Foreign Affairs Committees (as part
of any joint effort on our part with the State Department) but was inclined
to feel that there would be no serious objection if we and the State Department
were to get an amendment to the Daniels bill in the Senate Post Office and
Civil Service Committee which would extend this benefit to both Foreign
Service and CIA. retirees. Mr. Woodruff was inclined to look with favor
on an approach which would grant to the Director the authority to adopt
administrative provisions of other retirement acts for the CIA, retirement
system as he deemed those provisions appropriate. In this connection,
he mentioned he thought it would be much easier for us to obtain legislation
through the Armed Services Committee under Senator Stennis' chairmanship
than it was while Senator Russell was chairman of this Committee. We
acknowledged that this was a subject which we would have to take up with
Ed Braswell, on the Armed Services Committee staff, but expressed an
interest in and an appreciation for Woodruff's views on the subject.
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4. (Secret - GLC) Briefed Mr. Woodruff on the Soviet MRV
test of 26 April and on the continuing indications of uncertainty in the
Soviet leadership situation.
5. (Confidential - JMM) Mr. Cary and I called on Senator Ernest F.
Hollings (D., S. C.) regarding our problems with the Ervin bill (S. 782). We
recalled how helpful Senator Hollings had been on this matter during the last
session of Congress and explained to him the status of the bill in this session.
We said we would appreciate Senator Hollings' advice on whether, and if so
how, we might raise the matter with Senator Strom Thurmond, who is a
member of Senator Ervin's Subcommittee of the Judiciary Committee which
has jurisdiction over the bill. Senator Hollings said that because of political
differences, he would prefer not to contact Senator Thurmond in our behalf,
but thought it would be useful for us to do so directly. Senator Hollings felt
we had a strong case and should not hesitate to present it to most or all
members of the Subcommittee despite the fact that Senator Ervin would, as
in the past, accuse us of lobbying. Hollings indicated that we shouldn't
expect much help from Senators Russell or Stennis, remarking that Russell's
effectiveness has suffered from his bad health and Stennis was "overwhelmed"
by the problems he had inherited as Chairman of the Armed Services
Committee. Hollings said he would like to get a world roundup briefing
from us at the first opportunity, and will call us as soon as he can fit it
into his schedule.
6. (Internal Use Only - CD) Received a call from Mrs. Carr, in
the office of Representative Frank T. Bow (R., Ohio), who requested an
employment interview for Mrs. Janet Klenk:o. After checking with Mr.
Saverance, Office of Personnel, I advised Mrs. Carr that an appointment
has been scheduled for Wednesday, 7 May at 3:00.
7. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Met with Harry Cromer, House Foreign
Affairs Committee staff, who requested an updating of the ChiCom VIP listings
and biographic sketches that had been provided for the Far East Subcommittee.
I advised I would relay his request and be back in touch with him. O/DD/I
has been advised.
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Tuesday - 29 April 1969
8. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Delivered to William Sullivan, in the
office of Representative Glenard P. Lipscomb, a recent Pravda article on the
"military-industrial complex" theme. Sullivan advised that the various
materials provided on this subject did not cover the earlier pronouncement
believed to have been made in the Moscow press probably in November or
December 1968. I advised Sullivan I would relay his request and be back
in touch with him.
9. (Unclassified - JGO) Met with Mr. Paul Goulding, in the off' of
Senator Claiborne Pell, and reviewed with him the current status of the
case. Goulding advised that the Senator was requesting the Department o t e
Army to review their files for possible employment records during the period
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10. (Secret - JGO) Met with Robert Michaels, House Appropriations
Committee staff, and confirmed with him the briefing for Michaels and Bill
Woodruff, Senate Appropriations Committee staff, on Thursday, 9:00 a. m. ,
at the Agency. I briefed Michaels on the following items:
a. Soviet extended range tests of SS-9;
b. Soviet maneuverable satellite program;
c. Moscow May Day parade;
d. ChiCom naval spring training exercises;
11. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Received a call from Colonel Roy Steele,
Chief, Investigations Division, Army Office of Legislation. Colonel Steele
advised he had talked with John Reddan, House Armed Services Investigations
Subcommittee, during the day and that he will be arranging to have Army
Operations personnel meet with Reddan on the question of E&E procurement
by the Department of the Army. I thanked Colonel Steele for the advice.
12. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Called Robert Hull, Department of
State, to get a current reading on the Department's efforts to obtain the benefit
provisions of the Daniels bill for the Foreign Service retirement system (see
Memorandum for the Record).
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13. (Unclassified - CEA) Delivered a China Map Folio to Bernard
Dobranski, Administrative Assistant to Representative William Murphy
(D. , Ill.).
14. (Internal Use Only - CEA) Talked to Mrs. Susie M 'hqn- in
the office of Representative Joel Broyhill (R. , Va. ), concerning
an Agency employee who had been in to see the Congressman about his failure
to obtain a raise at the Agency. I explained that there are at present no slots
into which can be put, but that in due course he should receive a 25X1
promotion. Mrs. Monahan understood the situation and no further action is
necessary.
15. (Confidential - CEA) Talked to J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel,
Senate Special Subcommittee on Internal Securit concerning his request
for information on Mr. and c I noted that at this time
I am unable to give him any information other than that which has already
appeared in the press, but that I would keep him in mind if this situation
should change in the future.
I also provided him with additional information on
about whom he had previously inquired.
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Monday - 28 April 1969
1. (Unclassified - GLC) Miss Judith Spahr, on the staff of the
Subcommittee on National Security and International Operations, called
and asked if we could provide them with a copy of the article by Alexei
Yepishev which appeared in the Soviet publication Kommunist and referred
to in Anatole Shub's article in the Sunday Washington Post. After checking
with the Library, I advised Miss Spahr that the article probably would not
be available in English before the end of this week but we would forward it
to them when it is received.
3. (Secret - GLC) Hand carried to Dorothy Fosdick, Staff Director,
Subcommittee on National Security and International Operations, an excerpt
from the Director's testimony before the Senate Preparedness Subcommittee
on 8 April 1968 on the subject of the SS-9. Miss Fosdick said this was precisely
what Senator Henry Jackson (D. , Wash.) wanted and thanked us for providing
this information.
4. (Unclassified - GLC) Called Arnold Brustin, on the staff of
Senator Gaylord Nelson (D. , Wis. ), about the dates which we had suggested
for the Director to brief the Senator. He said that both of these dates were
impossible for Senator Nelson. I suggested that he talk with the Senator and
suggest some alternate dates which I would then check with the Director's
calendar. The initiative rests with Mr. Brustin at this point.
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Monday - 28 April 1969
5. (Internal Use Only - LLM) At his invitation extended last week,
had lunch with Representative William T. Murphy (D. , Ill.) and his Adminis-
trative Assistant, Bernard Dobranski, and I reviewed with him several ways
in which the Agency could be of help to him in his capacity as Chairman of
the House Subcommittee on Asian and Pacific Affairs. Mr. Murphy was very
courteous and outgoing and offered me the use of his office facilities whenever
I was up on the Hill.
I FBIS, will temporarily send copies of the FBIS
White Book and the Asia and Pacific and Communist China Daily Reports to
Mr. Murphy for his review so that he can select those which he would like
to receive on a permanent basis.
6. (Confidential - JMM) Per the Director's instructions, I called
Senator Claiborne Pell to clarify an inquiry we had received in his behalf
from the staff of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, indicating the
Senator wanted to know when he could expect the "answers to some questions"
which had come up during the Director's recent appearance before the
Gore Subcommittee. Pell said he was interested only in the answers to
questions contained in a questionnaire prepared by the Committee staff.
I said these answers (presently being prepared by DD/S&T and OSR) would
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Monday - 28 April 1969
1. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Due to conflicts in schedule, both
Mr. Robert Michaels, House Appropriations Committee staff, and Mr.
William Woodruff, Senate Appropriations Committee staff, desired to
change their meeting at the Agency to Thursday, 1 May. The Offices
of the DD/I and DD/S&T have been advised. 25X1
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of OCI, to a meeting with Mr. Darre St. Claire,
Clerk of the Senate, for a debriefing concerning Mr. St. Claire's recent
trip to Belgrade, Yugoslovia, as Executive Secretary to the American
delegation to the Parlimentary Union meeting in Vienna, Austria. (See
Memo for the Record.. )
3. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel, House Armed Services
Committee, and briefed him on the following items:
(Confidential - JGO) Accompanied Mr. and
a. Recent Soviet extended range tests of the SS-9;
c. Chinese Communist naval spring training exercises;
d. Suslov's speech of 25 March.
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Friday - 25 April 1969
1. (Confidential - JMM) This morning, before 8:00 A.M., Miss
Dorothy Fosdick, Staff Director of the Subcommittee on National Security and
International Operations, phoned me at home to say that Senator Henry M.
Jackson, now in New York, had called last night to express concern over
word being leaked to the press regarding the SS-9. According to Miss
Fosdick, Senator Jackson has been told by press friends that opponents of
the U. S. ABM system are circulating word that the intelligence community
has only recently--since December--been describing the SS-9 as designed
primarily to hit hard targets. Miss Fosdick said Senator Jackson was sure
this was not the case but he wished a briefing on the subject, including a
review of past estimates dealing with the SS-9, when he returns to Washington
on Tuesday. Miss Fosdick will call us next week to set a time.
Later in the morning, I called Miss Fosdick to say that on checking
records of the Director's testimony, I could confirm that just one year ago--
testifying before the Senate Preparedness Investigating Subcommittee on
9 April 1968--he had described the SS-9 as suitable for attacking hardened
targets.
2. (Unclassified - LLM) Mr. Arnold Brustin, in the office of
Senator Gaylord Nelson (D. , Wis. ), called to check the status of the briefing
for Senator Nelson which he had discussed with earlier in the week. 25X1
He said the Senator may at any time ask him about the status of the arrange-
ments for the briefing and I said we would be back in touch before the close
of the day.
3. (Internal Use Only - CD) Received a call from Lacey Gude, in
the office of Charles McC. Mathias (R. , Md.), who requested a personnel
interview forl After making the arrangements with
the Office of Personnel, advised Lacey Gude that the interview was
scheduled for 10:00 A. M. this morning.
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4. (Unclassified - GLC) Called Arnold Brustin, on the staff of
Senator Gaylord Nelson, regarding his outstanding request on behalf of
the Senator for a briefing on the Soviet and Chinese Communist threats.
I explained to Brustin that the Director had been extremely busy but wanted
to be responsive to the Senator's request and suggested two possible dates
for a briefing--Tuesday, 29 April or Friday, 2 May in the afternoon. I told
him we could work out the details next week but laid down the ground rules
that this was a briefing for the Senator only and we would ask that the fact
of the briefing not be advertised. Brustin pressed the question of his
attending the briefing in view of the fact that he has a Top Secret clearance
but I told him because of the sensitivity of this subject matter we were
briefing only members and committee staff. Brustin seemed to accept this.
He will check out the dates with the Senator and be back in touch with me.
5. (Confidential - JGO) Met with Mr. Bun Benton Bray and Mr.
E. Hugler, House Subcommittee on Manpower and Civil Service staff.
Mr. Bray said that Chairman Henderson had reviewed his proposed bill
with the Subcommittee during their meeting yesterday and that it was now
ready for introduction whenever such introduction might be appropriate. All
copies are with the Chairman at present. Mr. Bray also noted that from
information available to the Committee it appears that there is little pressure
from the Unions at this time for consideration of the Ervin bill and that
pressure could continue to decrease in the light of other matters of legislative
importance to the Unions.
6. (Confidential - JGO) Met with Russ Blandford, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee. Mr. Blandford advised that there does
not appear to be any need for testimony by the Director with regard to the
current hearings by the Pike Subcommittee on the EC121 and that to his
knowledge no consideration has been given by Chairman Pike to calling the
Director. I thanked Mr. Blandford for the advice.
7. (Confidential - JGO) Mrs. Mary McLaughlin, on the staff of the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, called in response to a question she
received from Senator Claiborne Pell (D. , R. I.) about responses from the
Agency to questions posed by the Senator during the Director's briefing on
23 April. I advised Mrs. McLaughlin that responses to the list of questions
presented by the Committee were in preparation and would probably be
returned to the Committee late in the coming week.
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8. (Secret - JGO) In keeping with arrangements for safekeeping
of the transcript of the Director's briefing on 23 April, I delivered the
original of the transcript to the Committee for use by the Chairman and
members during the day and received it back from Mr. Carl Marcy, Chief
of Staff, Senate Foreign Relations Committee, at the end of the day. Mr.
Marcy advised that the system of retention by the Agency and delivery to
the Committee as needed appears to be working well. The transcript will
not be needed again for Committee review unless called for. It was re-
affirmed that the transcript is kept in the main Committee room and members
or Committee staff who desire to review it come to the Committee room. This
avoids the problems that occurred in the past in sending such transcripts to
members' offices or to the offices of the Committee.
9. (Internal Use Only - JGO) In response to a request relayed through
Representative Glenard Lipscomb (R. , Calif. ), I met with Representative
Clarence Brown, Jr. (R. , Ohio) and discussed a possible employment applica-
tion of tired from the military. Arrangements will
be made to interview in Ohio. 25X1
10. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Talked to Representative Lipscomb and
advised him that the paper he requested on the Soviet threat will be ready
early in the week.
11. (Unclassified - JGO) Delivered various FBIS items to Judith Spahr
and Richard Brown, on the staff of the Senate Subcommittee on National Security
and International Operations. 25X1
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Thursday - 24 April 1969
1. (Secret - JMM) This afternoon Mr. and I stopped by to
see Mr. William Woodruff, Assistant Chief Clerk, Senate Appropriations
Committee, and I gave a brief rundown on the Director's appearance
yesterday before the International Organization and Disarmament Affairs
Subcommittee of Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I said the Director,
in his prepared statement, had carefully avoided going beyond the conclusions
covered in his previous briefings of the Agency Subcommittees, or getting
into sensitive or controversial details. I mentioned that the Director had
been questioned on whether the community had ever estimated regarding the
Soviet first-strike capability, and had replied that in the preparation of
National Estimates we stuck to what was indicated by available evidence and
this did not permit conclusions as to what the situation might be a number
of years hence--for example in the late 1970's.
2. (Confidential - JMM) Mr. Woodruff confided that it now appears
that the Administration cannot win on the ABM issue and if it came up today
the Safeguard project would be defeated by at least four or five votes.
Woodruff feels it was unfortunate that Laird and Packard had gotten so far
"out on a limb" and it would have been much better to have Foster and Starbird
carry the ball. Woodruff remarked that Secretary Rogers' comment on the
subject had been exactly right.
Woodruff said he had personally tried to get Senator Russell to "back
off" when he realized the probable outcome.
3. (Unclassified - JMM) In response to his request, on behalf of
Senator Henry M. Jackson, Mr. Richard Brown, on the staff of the Sub-
committee on National Security and International Operations, was kept
informed of the ticker items regarding the closing of the Chinese Communist
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4. (Secret - GLC) Messrs. Maury and I frmet with Senator
Milton Young (R. , N. Dak. ). We reviewed the action which has been taken
by the Agency in contacts with Senator Ervin on S. 782 this year and
refreshed the Senator's memory concerning the problems which this
legislation poses for the Agency. We pointed out that our problems with
this legislation have been discussed with Senators Richard Russell (D. , Ga. )
and John Stennis (D., Miss.) as well as Senator John McClellan (D. , Ark. ),
who'is a member of our CIA Subcommittee and Senator Sam Ervin's (D. , N. Car. )
Subcommittee on Constitutional Rights which is considering S. 782. We asked
Senator Young if he would be willing to approach Senator Roman Hruska (R. , Neb. ),
ranking minority leader of the Ervin Subcommittee, on our behalf indicating
his (Young's) support of our position with respect to the bill as it effects the
Agency and asking Senator Hruska if he would be willing to hear the Agency
state its case on the legislation. Senator Young said he would be happy to do
this and would expect to see Hruska early next week. We will contact Senator
Young on Tuesday if we have not heard from him before that time.
5. (Secret - GLC) Mr. Maury briefed Senator Milton Young (R., N. Dak.)
on a number of matters of current intelligence including speculation with regard
to the May Day pe.radein Moscow and what this portends, Soviet naval activity
in the Mediterranean, and the continuation of friction between the Soviets and
Communist Chinese and indicators which we have that the Soviets are keeping
a close eye on the situation on the Sino-Soviet border.
6. (Secret - JGO) In keeping with prior arrangements, delivered the
original of the transcript of the Director's testimony of 23 April to the Foreign
Relations Committee for use of the Chairman and members during the day.
The transcript was returned to the Agency at the end of the day for safekeeping.
7. (Secret - JGO) Received a call from James Lowenstein, Senate
Foreign Relations Committee staff, who commented that the Director's briefing
was possibly the most interesting session he had ever attended. He found the
Director most impressive. The purpose of his call was to advise that although
the questions furnished the Director for written response had been approved by
the Chairman, he would be pleased to provide clarification should the wording
or format prove troublesome. I thanked Mr. Lowenstein for his offer.
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8. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Talked with Roger Currier, Office
of Legislation, Secretary of the Army, who advised their investigation staff
would be in contact with John Reddan, House Armed Services Committee
staff, during the day. See Journal of 22 April.
9. (Unclassified - LLM) Representative William Murphy (D., Ill.)
called to ask if I could lunch with him on Monday, but did not volunteer the
reason for the invitation. He is now Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Sub-
committee on Asian and Pacific Affairs, formerly chaired by Representative
Zablocki (D. , Wis.). I said I would meet him at his office at 12 noon.
11. (Unclassified - RJK) Delivered some FBIS material to William
Sullivan, Assistant to Representative Glenard P. Lipscomb (R. , Calif. ),
per his request.
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Wednesday - 23 April 1969
1. (Secret - GLC) Hand carried to George Murphy, on
the staff of the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, Mr. Bruce Clarke's
response to questions posed by Representative William H. Bates (R. ,
Mass.) and Senator John O. Pastore (D. , R. I.) at the Director's briefing
of the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy. These questions had to do
with the amount of Soviet GNP devoted to the A.BM problem and to
weaponry.
3. (Secret - GLC) Hand carried to Colonel Everett Harper, on
the staff of the Senate Preparedness Subcommittee, DD/P's answers
to the 20 Questions given to Mr. Carl Duckett, DD/S&T, in writing
at the time of his briefing to the Subcommittee on Research and
Development, Senate Armed Services Committee. These answers
were given in classified and unclassified form.
4. (Unclassified - GLC) Hand carried letters from Lieutenant
General R. E. Cushman, Jr., to the offices of Senator Peter Dominick
(R. , Colo.) and Representatives Bob Wilson (R. , Calif.) and Charles E.
Bennett (D. , Fla.).
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25X1 5. (Secret - JMM The Director, accompanied by Messrs. Duckett,
Bruce Clarke, nd Maury, briefed the Subcommittee on
International Organization and Disarmament Affairs of the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee. See transcript and Memo for Record.
6. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Advised Bill Sullivan, in the office of
Representative Glenard Lipscomb (R. , Calif. ), regarding his earlier request
that we were not able to find reference to the "military-industrial complex"
in any December 1968 Pravda articles, but will continue to search for it
in later Pravda editions. FBIS is continuing their search.
7. (Confidential - JGO) Accompanied Mr. I of
DD/S&T, to brief Mr. Robert Michaels, on the staff of the House ppropriations
Committee, on certain radar programs. The briefing was very well received.
(See Memo for the Record. )
8. (Confidential - JGO) Met with Mr. Arthur Kuhl, on the staff of
the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who advised that Senator John
Sherman Cooper (R. , Ky.) is reported to have invited Senator Robert W.
Packwood (R. , Oreg.) and Senator William Spong (D. , Va.) to attend the
Director's briefing of the Subcommittee. Mr. Kuhl also advised that
Messrs. Marcy, Holt, Lowenstein, and he would probably be in attendance.
He noted in passing that no personal staff people will be in attendance.
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10. (Secret - JGO) Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, on the staff of
the House Appropriations Committee, who advised that in the next Sub-
committee meeting Chairman Mahon would be interested in a briefing on
the subject of radar order of battle: what is it and what is its importance .
Mr. Michaels also noted that the Chairman is very interested in the EC121
mission; what is this type of mission looking at, what is it that they are after,
and is it necessary that they fly "up and down" everyday.
11. (Confidential - JGO) Met with Mr. Darrell St. Claire, Clerk in
the Office of the Secretary of the Senate, who recently traveled to Vienna,
Austria as Administrative Secretary to the Interparliamentary Union. He
was Administrative Secretary to the U. S. delegation. Mr. St. Claire noted
that the delegation's visit to Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Yugoslovia were
each interesting in themselves but that the reception they received and the
people they met with in Yugoslovia might be of interest to our Yugoslovian
experts. Time did not allow further discussion but Mr. St. Claire advised
that, if it would be of interest, he would be pleased to meet with one of our
Yugoslovian experts and relate the delegation's experiences. I thanked
Mr. St. Claire for his kind offer25and told him that I would be back in touch
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Tuesday - 22 April 1969
1. (Secret - GLC) George Murphy, on the staff of the Joint
Committee on Atomic Energy, called again on statements made on the
ABM situation. This time Murphy was interested. in any elaboration
which I could give on Secretary Roger's statement last night regarding
the Soviet testing of the SS-9. After checking wit of
OSI, I reviewed with Murphy pertinent points regarding the Soviet tests
of 18 and 19 April.
Later in the day, Murphy called and left a message regarding
comment on the "West German espionage story" in the New York Times.
I have discussed this with 1 -1 EA./DDP; I have not been back
in touch with Murphy on this,
2. (Secret - JGO) Accompanied Mr. OCI, who
briefed Representative Ogden Reid (R. , N. Y.) on the Middle East and touched
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Record.)
3. (Confidential - JGO) Met with Mr. Arthur Kuhl, Chief Clerk,
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and finalized the arrangements for
the Gore Subcommittee briefing by the Director on Wednesday, 23 April,
in the main committee room S 116 of the Capitol. Mr. Kuhl confirmed the
previous listing of staff personnel who are expected to be present and advised
that Mr. William Miller, of Senator John Sherman Cooper's (R., Ky. ) s
would not be present.
4. (Secret - JGO) Talked to Mr. Francis Matchett, on the staff of
the Subcommittee on Manpower and Civil Service of the House Committee on
Post Office and Civil Service. Mr. Matchett advised that the Subcommittee
would be meeting on Thursday. He also noted that Chairman Henderson might
well take up his new draft bill on protection of the constitutional rights of
Federal employees with the Subcommittee at that time. No copies of the draft
are available as yet.
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5. (Confidential - CEA) J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel, Senate Special
Subcommittee on internal Security, called to ask for any information we could
give him on Mr. and who were reported by the press
to have been questioned by Scotland Yard concerning espionage activities.
Subsequently, Sourwine called again and asked for any available
information on I told Sourwine I would check and be back in
6. (Internal Use Only - CEA) William Crawford, in the office of
Representative Charles H. Griffin (D. , Miss.), called and said he and the
Congressman would like a briefing on strategic deployment of troops and
materiel in Communist China. Crawford said they wanted unclassified
information and when I told him that the Agency would not have unclassified
information which is not also available to the Library of Congress it was
agreed he would withdraw his request for a briefing by the Agency.
7. (Unclassified - LLM) Bill Sullivan, in the office of Representative
Glenard Lipscomb (R. , Calif. ), requested copies of Pravda articles in
December 1968 which carried reference to the "military-industrial complex. "
FBIS, is working on this.
8. (Unclassified - LLM) In response to Representative William
Cahill's (R. , N. J.) letter request to the Director, made arrangements through
Mrs. Virginia Pickett, of the Congressman's office, for a personnel interview
for byl Personnel, at 2:00 p. m. today.
certain radar techniques.
9. (Confidential - JGO) Talked with Mr. Robert Michaels, House
Appropriations Committee statf, and confirmed the meeting for 10:30 a. m.
tomorrow, 23 April, with Mr. of DD/S&T, concerning
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I informed J. Sourwine Chief Counsel, Senate Special Subcommittee on
Internal Security, that about whom Sourwine had previously
inquired, does not have a good record and that I seriously questioned whether
Sourwine would want to call him as a witness. Sourwine thanked me and said
he had assumed as much.
2. (Confidential - CEA) After checking with
3. (Internal Use Only -LLM) The administrative assistant to
Representative William T. Murphy (D. , Ill.) called in connection with FBIS
Daily Reports. He will check with Mr. Murphy to determine whether either
in addition to, or in lieu of, the White Book he would like to receive the
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6. (Secret - GLC) Hand carried to William Woodruff, on the staff
of the Senate Appropriations Committee, "fact sheets" and photographs on the
Harke and Homer Soviet helicopters in response to his earlier request. Woodruff
asked if I knew the status of the Army's assessment of the Harke and I responded
by indicating that we did not keep up with this on a day-to-day basis but it was
my understanding that a substantial assessment had been made by the Army's
Foreign Science and Technology Center and a report prepared on the basis of
this which was probably available through Army channels.
Talked with Woodruff about arranging for him and Robert Michaels,
on the staff of the House Appropriations Committee, to visit the Agency to view
the Soviet film, "True Sons of the People" and to receive a briefing on a special
project. This has been set for Thursday at 9:00 a. m.
I briefed Woodruff on the following items:
a. Soviet naval exercises in the Mediterranean.
b. Soviet satellite reconnaissance.
c. Soviet propaganda attacks on Yugoslovia and
Romania.
d. Strategic arms talks.
e. Recent developments in Soviet attitude toward
China.
f. North Korean exploitation of U. S. aircraft
shoot-down.
g. "Realists" in new Czechoslovakian Government.
h. Soviet leadership difficulties.
i. Soviet SS-9 tests.
7. (Secret - GLC) Hand carried to George Mur h , on the staff of
the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, the lates orksheets 25X1
dated 11 April 1969.
Talked further with George Murphy regarding recent Soviet
tests of the SS-9 in connection with his query regarding Secretary Laird's
statement "that the Soviets have tested in the last two weeks a very new and
sophisticated A.BM weapons system. "'
Murphy expressed continuing interest in statements being made
by Arms Control and Disarmament Agency (ACDA) officials regarding our
national verification capability with respect to undeclared facilities. He said
he understood that ACDA had recently finished a study on this subject.
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8. (Internal Use Only - JGO) After checking with the Office of
the Director, OSR, I scheduled a showing of the Soviet film, "True Sons of
the People" for Mr. Robert Michaels, on the staff of the House Appropriations
Committee and Mr. William Woodruff, on the staff of the Senate Appropriations
Committee, for Thursday morning at 9:00 a. m. and confirmed the time of the
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I scheduled a meeting for 10:30 a. m. , Wednesday, 23 April 1969, with Mr.
Robert Michaels, on the staff of the House Appropriations Committee, for a
briefing on certain radar techniques that had been requested by Mr. Michaels.
showing with Mr. Michaels.
10. (Secret - JGO) Received a call from Carl Marcy, Chief of Staff,
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, concerning the meeting this afternoon
between the Director and Chairman Fulbright. (See Memo for the Record. )
Later in the day, I received a call from Mrs. Mary McLaughlin,
on Mr. Marcy's behalf, requesting advice on whether the Director would approve
Mr. Marcy's attendance at today's meeting with Chairman Fulbright. It was
indicated that Mr. Marcy had discussed the matter with the Chairman but that
his attendance would be sub'ect to the Director's determination. After checking
with Office of the Director, I advised Mrs. Mary
McLaughlin that the Director had no objection to Mr. Marcy's attendance at the
meeting.
11. (Confidential - JGO) Talked to Mr. William Birdsall, Congressional
Reporting Firm of Ward and Paul and finalized arrangements for security control
of the transcript of the Director's meeting with the Gore's Disarmament Sub-
committee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee which is scheduled for
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1. (Secret - JGO) Mr. William Woodruff, on the staff of
the Senate Appropriations Committee, called and requested information
concerning the reported construction of a fisl-4-- in land for
the North Koreans. After checking with Mr. in the 25X1
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is enroute to North Korea. (See Memo for the Record. )
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for a briefing of Senator Henry M. Jacks on (D. , Wash.) on the Soviet
leadership and related problems. Senator Jackson was most responsive
and cordial. Present from the Senator's staff was Miss Dorothy Fosdick.
(See Memo for the Record. )
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Friday - 18 April 1969
1. (Confidential - JGO) Met with Mr. Harris, House Subcommittee
on Manpower and Civil Service, who advised that the draft of Chairman
Henderson's bill on protection of constitutional rights of Federal employees
has been completed. The Chairman has it with him this weekend for study
and may introduce it in the coming week. No copies of the draft are available
at present.
2. (Secret - JGO) Met with Mr. James Lowenstein, on the staff
of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, concerning the Director's
scheduled appearance before the Gore Disarmament Subcommittee next
Wednesday, 23 April. Mr. Lowenstein advised that he is in the process of
preparing questions for the Chairman's use (See Memo for the Record) but
noted that the Chairman's principal objective is to ascertain what happened
in terms of new intelligence or otherwise between the time of JCS approval
of the Sentinel program and JCS approval of Safeguard. Tentative agreement
was reached with Mr. Lowenstein for security control of the transcript.
Mr. Lowenstein advised that staff members to be present on Wednesday
will be Messrs. Marcy and Kuhl, Mr. William Miller and himself. In response
to my question concerning Mr. Miller's status in attending a Committee briefing,
Mr. Lowenstein advised that Mr. Miller with others has applied for the staff
vacancy created by Bill Bader's departure and that there is some possibility
that Mr. Miller could be appointed before next Wednesday. In that event, he
(Mr. Lowenstein) would turn the whole matter of the Subcommittee briefing
which he is handling over to Mr. Miller. Mr. Lowenstein also advised that
"Bill Miller is the one that started all of this anyway. " Mr. Lowenstein said
that the Committee does not plan to announce the Wednesday briefing in the
Committee schedule but that members will be notified on Monday and should
question arise concerning the fact of the briefing, the Committee staff would
respond in the affirmative about the hearing. Mr.I OCI, and the
Office of Security have been notified.
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3. (Confidential - JGO) Talked with Mr. Robert Michaels,
on the staff of the House Appropriations Committee, who advised that
he would appreciate a viewing of the film, "True Sons of the People"
and suggested that next Wednesday morning would be a good time for
him, if it could be worked out with Mr. William Woodruff, on the staff
of the Senate Appropriations Committee. Mr. Michaels also advised
that he would try to be available at a time convenient for Mr.
25X1 of DD/S&T, for a briefing on certain radar techniques.
The time for both meetings will be confirmed with Mr. Michaels the
first of next week.
4. (Confidential - JGO) Received a call from the office of
Senator Claiborne Pell (D. , R.I. ) requesting that I contact Mr. Harold
Burman, in the office of Legal Advisors, Department of State, concerning
the claim on In the hbsence of Senator Pell and his Adminis-
trative Aide, Paul Go ing, it was requested that I contact the State
Department on the Senator's behalf and provide whatever information is
required pending the Senator's return. (See Journal of 26 February and
4 April 1969. )
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Pell's interest in the claim on Mr Mr. Burman thanked me
for the advice and indicated he would ra a response from the Department
to the Senator that would not inhibit the Senator's ability to introduce private
legislation in this matter even though there is no support that can be provided
by the Department or the Agency in identifying the individual with employment
by American intelligence services during the period in question. Mr. Burman
will call me during the coming week.
5. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Talked with Representative Glenard
Lipscomb (R. , Calif.) and advised that the updated information on the Soviet
threat which he had requested would be available late in the coming week.
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6. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Talked with Mr. Roger Currier,
Office of Legislative Liaison, Department of the Army, who advised that
he did not know whether Colonel Steele, of the Investigations Branch of the
Legislative Office, had been back in contact with Mr. John Reddan, Counsel,
House Armed Services Investigations Subcommittee, but that he would check
the matter as soon as he had new information.
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1. (Confidential - CE.A) Talked to J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel, Senate
Special Subcommittee on Internal Security, about certain aspects of the back-
ground of which the Agency would prefer he not get into if
he calls s a witness. Sourwine assured me that he would avoid this
area of questioning and if by chance the information should come out he would
assure that it is not printed.
2. (Confidential - CEA) J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel, Senate Special
Subcommittee on Internal Security, called to request any information he could
get on a Cuban refugee who is presently in Miami running an
Esso station. had been recommended to Sourwine as a witness. I
told Sourwine I would check and be back in touch.
4. (Secret - GLC) George Murphy, on the staff of the Joint Committee
on Atomic Energy, called and expressed interest and some concern over the
article in this morning's Washington Post quoting Secretary Laird as saying,
"that the Soviets have tested in the last few weeks a very new and sophisticated
weapons system. 11 Murphy was interested in knowing if there was anything
significant which had developed since the Director's briefing of the Joint 25X1
Committee on 20 February. After checking withi OSI, I told
Murphy it was difficult for us to comment on Laird's statement, since we did
not know precisely what he had in mind, and adding that any changes which had
taken place were more a matter of degree than variety. Murphy asked if I
would see him on Monday to discuss this further.
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5. (Secret - GLC) Talked with William Woodruff, on the staff of the
Senate Appropriations Committee, about the problem which had developed
An appointment was made for the Director to see Senator Yulbriglit
on Monday at 3:00 p. m.
6. (Unclassified - GLC) Called Arnold Brustin, on the staff of
Senator Gaylord Nelson (D. , Wis. ), with further reference to his request
to brief the Senator on the Russian and ChiCom threats. I told Brustin that
the Director wanted the Senator to understand that his suggestion which he
discussed with Senator John Stennis (D. , Miss.) regarding his request for a
briefing should not be construed as a refusal on the part of the Director to
give the Senator an Agency briefing. I went on to say that this was something
that the Director normally would personally oversee if he did not do the briefing
himself and that, in view of his extremely busy schedule, he was trying to see
if some satisfactory arrangement could be worked out to handle requests for
individual briefings of members of the Congress. I told Brustin that this was
not a commitment to give a briefing but an indication that we were trying to
work out some arrangement and we would be in touch with him. At his
suggestion I agreed to call him again some time next week.
8. (Secret - GLC) Milton Wernstrom, formerly of Senator Thomas
Dodd's (D., Conn. again in an effort to press further for Agency
assistance to Mr. I made
it clear to Wernstrom that the Agency was doing all it felt it could do for this
project through appropriate channels and that further pressure from him could
prove harmful to the overall effort. 25X1
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9. (Confidential - LLM) George Murphy, Joint Committee on Atomic
Energy Committee staff called in connection with the possibility of arranging
for him to be briefed by OLC, either late this afternoon
or Monday, presumably in connection with new Soviet weapons systems develop-
ment reported in the press and attributed to Secretary Laird.
11. (Confidential - JMM) Dorothy Fosdick, Staff Director, Subcommittee
on National Security and International Operations, called to say Senator Henry
Jackson would like a briefing tomorrow (Saturday) afternoon at 4:00 P. M. on
the increasing influence of the Soviet marshals, particularly as described in
the Anatole Shub article in today's Wa Post a e 20). With the
Director's approval, DD/I is assigning OCI, to conduct the
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Thursday - 17 April 1969
1. (Secret- JMM) Called on Senator Stuart Symington in connection
with his interest in figures on the Agency budget. See Memo for Record.
2. (Unclassified - JMM) Accompanied Mr< ho briefed
Chairman John Stennis, Senate Armed Services Committee, on the EC121
incident. The Senator's main concern focused on the scope and value of
reconnaissance operations like the EC121. The facts regarding the current
incident were explained, and it was made clear to the Senator that the Agency
was in no way involved in the conduct of the operation.
3. (Unclassified - JMM) Accompanied General Cushman who
appeared before the Senate Armed Services Committee. All comments
were favorable. Transcript available in OLC.
4. (Secret - JMM) In the absence of Senator Milton Young, I briefed
his Administrative Assistant Mr. Chris Sylvester on some current developments
which he could pass on to the Senator. Included were:
a. Soviet activity in the Atlantic and Mediterranean;
b. Indications of upcoming ChiCom nuclear tests;
c. Current North Korean military posture.
5. (Unclassified - JMM) Ken BeLieu, Deputy Assistant to the President
for Congressional Relations, called this afternoon to say he still had been
unable to get hold of regarding the question of whether or not
we brief Senator Gaylord Ne son see Journal of 16 April). I said we were
trying to find out Senator Russell's views in the matter, and BeLieu said he
would like very much to know the results.
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6. (Secret - JMM) Met with Senator Albert Gore (D. , Tenn.) regarding
the Director's briefing of Gore's Disarmament Subcommittee of Senate Foreign
Relations Committee on 23 April. Senator Gore said:
a. subjects covered should include Soviet and--to a lesser
extent--ChiCom nuclear weapons and delivery capabilities, including
all strategic missiles, submarine launched missiles, Long Range Air
Force, etc.
b. also Soviet ABM system.
c. Gore explained he wanted to know not only what the Soviets
and ChiComs could do to hit the U. S. but what they had which could
hit U. S. bases abroad in areas like "Turkey, Japan and Western
Europe. "
d. Gore said the hearing would probably run from 1430 to
1700 hours and we should allow time for questions.
f. Gore explained all members of te full Committee would
be invitees and many might attend.
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8. (Secret - GLC) Larry Garcia, on the staff of the Senate Armed
Services Committee, called to say that he had been expelled from hearings
(presumably today) because he did not have special clearances required for
the hearing. Garcia was quite irritated and said it was embarrassing to be
placed in this situation and asked if there was anything he could do about this.
I talked with Edward Braswell, Chief of Staff of the Senate Armed Services
Committee, about this and suggested that unless it was anticipated that Garcia
would attend CIA briefings, the question to his access in special security
classifications should be taken up through DOD channels. Braswell agreed
with this and said that this in fact should have been taken up with Colonel
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1. (Secret - JMM) James Lowenstein, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee staff, called to say that Senator Albert Gore would like the
Director to brief the Disarmament Subcommittee of which Senator Gore
is Chairman on the Soviet ABM system on Wednesday, 23 April at 2:00 P. M.
in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing room, S116 in the Capitol.
With the Director's approval I called Lowenstein back to confirm the Director's
appearance.
2. (Secret - JMM) Frank Hand, DOD Liaison, called to say that
Deputy Secretary of Defense Packard was appearing before the House Armed
Services Committee tomorrow and would very much appreciate a look at the
transcript of the Director's testimony before this Committee last month.
After checking with the Director, I had a copy of the transcript hand carried
to Mr. Hand for Mr. Packard's use on an "Eyes Only" basis.
3. (Unclassified - LLM) Gladyce Sumida, in the office of Representative
Richard Bolling (D. , Mo.), called on behalf of a State Department courier
applicant who was turned down because he was over age 30 and asked if the
Agency had any employment opportunities and similar age limitations. I said
that I knew of no such age limitations, but that openings were limited and our
need was in highly specialized fields. It was agreed that we would send her
the professional employment brochure which she in turn could send on to the
constituent.
4. (Confidential - LLM) Advised Mr. Wayne Granquist, Administrative
Assistant to Senator Abraham A. Ribicoff (D. , Conn. ), that we were arranging
for Agency representatives in Saigon to meet with the two investigators from
the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations (see Journal of 15 April).
Granq,uist said the investigators obtained a quantity of information on certain
foreign personalities and corporations and no doubt would like to find out what
we know of them. He said that the investigator's report from Hong Kong which
referred to the Agency as being "substantially involved" was no doubt referring
to the fact that the Agency had been the ultimate source of certain information
they had received in Hong Kong. I I FE Division, was advised.
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5. (Confidential - CEA) J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel, Senate
Internal Security Subcommittee, called to request the first opportunity
for the Senate Subcommittee on Internal Security to call a recenti
as a witness. After checking with
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case an He is free to call at any time. Sourwine also asked me
for background information on and I told him I would look into
this and be back in touch.
6. (Confidential - JGO) Mr. Bruce Clarke, accompanied by Mr.
I Ipresented the Soviet film, "True Sons
of the People" to the House Armed Services Committee, the Committee
staff and invited guests from the military services. The film and running
commentary were very favorably received with rather strong sentiments
being expressed by the members that it would be well if this film were
shown to the American public. See Memorandum for the Record.
7. (Confidential - JGO) Met briefly with Mr. John Reddan, Counsel,
House Armed Services Subcommittee for Special Investigations, who advised
that he had not heard as yet from the Army legislative people on the matter
of procurement of certain E&E equipment. I thanked him for the advice
and told him I would contact the Army people and remind them of the
Committee request.
Called Robert Currier, Army L&L, who apologized that their
investigative staff had no)t as yet been back in contact with Mr. Reddan. He
thanked me for the call.
8. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Robert Hull, Department of State,
called and said that interest in the Daniels bill had increased since my call
to him on 19 March and wanted to know what the Agency was planning. He
was interested that the Post Office and Civil Service Committee staff had
rejected the possibility of providing for the Agency's retirement system
in the Daniels bill because it would complicate matters on an already
delicately balanced bill. We also discussed other available legislative
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9. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Received a call from Mrs. Mary
Miller, Senate Preparedness Subcommittee staff, who advised that Mr.
Stuart P. French has left the staff for an appointment in the Department of
Defense. Mrs. Miller also advised, on behalf of Chief Counsel James
Kendall, that the Subcommittee's sponsorship of Mr. French's "special"
security clearances is withdrawn. I thanked Mrs. Miller for the advice.
10. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Talked to Mr. Robert Michaels,
House Appropriations Committee staff, who advised that he had talked to 25X1
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Tuchmann, Legislative Assistant to Representative Ogden R. Reid (R., N. Y. ),
who called on Mr. Reid's behalf and requested, if possible, an updating of
the information previously provided on the Middle East. Mr. Reid indicated
he would appreciate it if I Iwould meet with him 25X1
Wednesday, 23 April, at 9:00 a. m. I thanked Miss Tuchmann and advised
that I would relay Representative Reid's request.
12. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Received a call from Miss Doris Scott,
House Armed Services Committee staff, who requested the transcript of
the Director's briefing of 18 March for review by a member. The transcript
was forwarded to the Committee and returned to the Agency at the end of the
day.
13. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Received a call from Miss Mary
Keough, Senate Armed Services Committee staff, who advised that the
confirmation hearing scheduled for tomorrow morning had been canceled
and rescheduled for 1:30 p.m., Thursday, 17 April. Miss Keough requested
that we advise General Cushman that he need not be present until 1:30 p.m.
tomorrow.
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J. Caleb Boggs (R., Delaware), wh riate detailed information
for responding to onstituent, Mr from Newark, Delaware,
concerning Mr. employment application with the Agency. After
receiving the file from Records Center, I reviewed some of the highlights
by telephone with Senator Boggs and advised him that we had examined our
personnel needs in the various offices of the Agency and had found no office
which could utilizel ualification. Senator Bogg's apologized for
bothering us on such a matter and appreciated the first-hand information.
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15. (Unclassified - GLC) In response to his request of yesterday,
I contacted Arnold Bruston, on the staff of Senator Gaylord Nelson (D. , Wis. ),
regarding a possible briefing of the Senator on the Soviet and Chinese Communist
threats. I advised Mr. Bruston that this was a sensitive and complicated
matter on which we kept our Subcommittees completely informed and, in
view of the possibility of numerous congressional inquiries for briefings,
suggested that Senator Nelson discuss this with Senator Stennis. (See Memo
for the Record for details. )
16. (Confidential - GLC) Talked with Bill Woodruff, Senate Appropriations
Committee staff, regarding our handling of the request from Senator Nelson's
office for a briefing of the Senator on the Russian and ChiCom threats. Woodruff
had some thoughts on the subject and said he felt the Director would be in an
untenable position if he refused to give Senator Nelson a briefing. (See Memo
for the Record. )
17. (Unclassified - JMM) On the Director's instructions, I called Ken
BeLieu, Deputy Assistant to the President for Congressional Relations, to
explain our problem in trying to turn down Senator Nelson's request for a
briefing by the Director on the Soviet and ChiCom threats. BeLieu said that last
week he had raised our problem of briefing Senator Cooper With Bryce Harlow,
Assistant to the President for Congressional Relations , who had felt we could
not avoid briefing senators, but should exclude members of their staffs. However,
BeLieu said he agreed with us we should try to avoid briefing Nelson in this case,
but he wanted to check it out with Harlow before giving an official answer. He
said he would call back tomorrow morning.
I told Be Lieu of the status of the problem with S. 782 (Ervin bill) pointing
out that Ervin had never responded to our request for an appearance in executive
session. I said in view of this we should now proceed to contact members of the
Ervin Subcommittee and a few others and explain our position. BeLieu concurred
and we agreed that among those we should contact were Senators Eastland,
McClellan, Hruska, Thurmond, Robert Byrd,, Bayh and Hollings. BeLieu did
not give any clear indication of just what the White House planned to do in the
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18. (Confidential - GLC) Hand carried to Mr. James Knowles,
Director of Research, Joint Economic Committee, the Director's reply to
Representative Hale Bogg's request for Agency assistance in an upcoming
Committee study on the Soviet economy. Knowles and I then discussed the
request with John Stark, Staff Director of the Committee, who accepted the
fact that areas of classification made it impossible for us to assist the
Committee to the extent requested and agreed that our people should work
with Leon Herman, of the Library of Congress, on that area of the study
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1. (Unclassified - GLC) Mr. Bruston, on the staff of Senator
Gaylord Nelson (D. , Wis. ), called and said that the Senator would like
a briefing on the Russian and Chinese Communist's threat. He said the
Senator was also interested in being briefed on the whole question of our
MIRY. I advised Bruston that the Agency was not involved in U. S. programs
and, therefore, we would not be in a position to brief on what we are doing
by way of a MIRY program. And in regard to the other aspects of his request,
I would look into it and be back in touch with him. He asked if it would make
any difference in the substance of the briefing if he were to sit in with the
Senator. I told him that, as he knew, this was an area of extreme sensitivity
and I would look into it. He asked if special clearances were needed and if
he could obtain them just for this purpose. We are checking on this.
2. (Secret - GLC) Picked up from the House Armed Services
Committee, the transcript of the Director's testimony before the full
House Armed Services Committee on 1.8 March 1969 and returned it to the
Agency for safekeeping.
3. (Unclassified - JMM) General Haynes, Marine Corps L&L, called
to say he had received word from the Hill that General Cushman's confirmation
hearing by the Senate Armed Services Committee would be at 0930 hours on
Thursday, 17 April. General Haynes asked about precedents as to the wearing
of the uniform and whether the General should be escorted by a Marine Corps
representative as well as or instead of an Agency representative. After checking
with John Warner and regarding previous confirmation hearings, I
told General Haynes that I un erstood the Commandant of the Marine Corps had
recommended General Cushman wear his uniform (as had Admiral Taylor and
General Carter in previous years) and that the General would be accompanied
by Agency representatives. General Haynes said this was fine with the Marine
Corps.
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4. (Secret - GLC) Hand carried to William Woodruff, on the staff
of the Senate Appropriations Committee, an additional map book for Senator
Richard B. Russell's (D. , Ga.) use and an additional copy of our Indochina
map folio.
In connection with his expression of interest in the Soviet film,
"True Sons of the Soviets, " I mentioned to Woodruff that this film was being
shown to the House Armed Services Committee today and that we could make
arrangements for him to see it at his convenience. He suggested that we try
to do this sometime next week. He added that he thought Robert Michaels,
on the staff of the House Appropriations Committee, would also like to attend
the viewing. We are coordinating this with Mr. Michaels.
I mentioned Senator Stuart Symington's (D.,Mo.) conversation with
the Director on the subject of the Agency's budget figure and Mr. Woodruff and
I discussed this at some length. We agreed that the best course would be for
us to make it clear to the Senator that there was certainly no objection to his
receiving this information (which he has, in fact, received on prior occasions
as a member of the CIA Subcommittee) but pointing out that any public discussion
of the Agency's budget, even in veiled terms, could be counter productive.
I mentioned to Woodruff the request which we had received from
Mr. Bruston, on the staff of Senator Gaylord Nelson (D. , Wis.), for a briefing
of the Senator on the Soviet and Chinese Communist's threat and Bruston's
request to attend such a briefing. I told Woodruff we were taking this up with
the Director but, in any event, planned to exclude any members of Senator
Nelson's staff from a briefing which may be given by us. Woodruff acknowledged
that requests like these posed a serious problem and mentioned in passing the
possibility of having Senator Russell hold a committee meeting to which all
senators would be invited and at which Mr. Helms would brief all interested
members of the Senate at one time. This was merely a reaction of Woodruff's
and certainly did not reflect any views on Senator Russell's part to this effect.
Woodruff and I discussed, at some length, Senator Symington's
new subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and the staff
of that subcommittee. Woodruff expressed some concern in this connection.
(Seem Memo for the Record for details. )
Woodruff asked if we would provide him with a "fact sheet" on the
new large Soviet helicopter. He said he wanted this in connection with Senator
Russell's consideration of a request from the Army for R and D money for
the development of a new helicopter. Woodruff felt that any appropriations
funded for the Army for this purpose should be delayed until the U. S. analysis
of the Soviet helicopter had been completed.
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5. (Secret - JGO) At his request, delivered to Mr. J.R. Blandford,
Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, the transcript of the
Director's briefing of the Armed Services Committee of 18 March for use by
the Committee during Secretary Laird's appearance. The transcript was
returned to the Agency at the end of the day.
Finalized the arrangements with Mr. Blandford for tomorrow's
presentation of the film, "True Sons of the Soviets, " for the full Armed
Services Committee at 8:30 a. m. in the Committee Room.
6. (Secret - JGO) Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House Appro-
priations Committee staff, and advised him that the Agency had been unable
to find a suitable position for employment for Mr.
Mr. Michaels indicated he would mention this to the Chairman during the
day and be back in touch with me.
Delivered to Mr. Michaels the Agency study prepared at the
Chairman's request entitled, "Chromite: World Demand and Supply. " I also
briefed Mr. Michaels on the continuation of Soviet propaganda attacks on
Yugoslavia and Rumania, Soviet disarmament talks and Soviet/Chinese
attitudes.
7. (Confidential - LLM) Mr. Wayne Granquist, Administrative
Assistant to Senator Abraham A. Ribicoff (D., Conn. ), called to say the
Senator would appreciate it if the Agency representative in Saigon could contact
the two investigators (LaVern Duffy and Carmen Bellinno) from the Senate
Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. He said he had received a report
from the investigators from Hong Kong which stated the Agency was "substan-
tially involved," presumably as a supplier of information. (The investigators
are looking into black market and currency manipulations. See memo for the
record of 20 March 1969.) I told Granquist I would be back in touch and
informed FE Division, of this request.
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1. (Confidential - JGO) Met with Mr. J.R. Blandford, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, and reviewed with him the Agency presenta-
tion of the film, "True Sons of the Soviets, " scheduled for Wednesday morning,
16 April before the full Armed Services Committee. Mr. Blandford was not
able to explain the breakdown in communications between the Committee and
Mr. Coggan of North American Aviation. Mr. Blandford advised, however,
that a member of the staff would call Mr. Coggan thanking him for his kind
efforts in bringing the film to the Committee's attention and again advise that
Mr. Coggan would not be required at the film showing. See Journal item of
11 April.
2. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Met with Mr. Frank Machen, House
Subcommittee on Manpower and Civil Service staff, who advised that the new
Henderson bill relating to the constitutional rights of Federal employees will
probably be introduced late next week or the following week. It is now about
98 percent complete. Although he provided no detail, he indicated that it was
the staff's feeling that Agency interests are well taken care of in the proposed
bill. He also advised that it would be necessary to see Mr. Bray later in the
week on the question of when a copy might be available for our use.
3. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Received a call from Mrs. Oneta
Stockstill, Executive Secretary, House Armed Services Committee, who
advised that the Committee is inviting the intelligence chiefs of the three
military services or their representatives to attend the showing of the film,
"True Sons of the Soviets," on Wednesday.
4. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Received a call from Mr. John Ford,
of the House Armed Services Committee staff, who advised that he had
talked to the Washington office of North American Aviation and that they had
contacted Mr. Coggan, their Vice President for Sales, to advise that his
presence will not be necessary on Wednesday for the showing of the film,
"True Sons of the Soviets. " Mr. Ford advised that there was no difficulty
whatsoever in the conversation with North American.
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5. (Confidential - GLC) I lof DD/S&T, passed
on to us copies of material written byl which he is sending to
a number of members of Congress and leading members of the clergy in the
Washington area. Part of ~~material is a harangue over his allegation
that CIA, has harassed him for a number of years, after he refuse
of employment from the Agency. This is similar to letters which
circulated to members of the Congress last October. No action is indicated
on our part unless we receive an inquiry from the Hill.
7. (Unclassified - GLC) Miss Morella Hansen, on the staff of the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, called and asked if Mr. Al?xander
Abraham was a member of any of the Agency's advisory boards. After
checking with the USIB Secretariat, ONE, DD/S&T, and the Office of Security,
I informed Miss Hansen that I could not find a record of such a person on any
of the Agency boards.
8. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Contacted Mr. Roger Currier, Office of the
Army L&L, and brought him up-to-date on Agency meetings with Mr. John Reddan,
Counsel, House Armed Services Investigations Subcommittee, concerning the
procurement of 548 miniature compasses and 550 combination screwdriver/files.
On advice from the Office of DD/P, I provided the name of Lt. Col. Bill Tyler,
Chief of the Unconventional War Branch, Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for
Operations, Department of the Army, as the staff officer with knowledge of the
background on this matter. Mr. Currier thanked me for the Agency's assistance
and indicated that Col. Steele, of the Investigations Branch of the Legislative
Office, would make direct contact with Mr. Reddan.
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9 . (Internal Use Only - CEA) J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel, Senate
Internal Security Subcommittee, called and said that the Scott report for 16 April
will quote Mihail Suslov, in a recent major speech, as having said that the Soviet
Union should take advantage of student and racial unrest in the West to weaken
the United States and its NATO allies. Sourwine wanted to know if there is any
basis for this statement and like to get copies of the text of the
speech. After checking with OCI, I informed Sourwine that the
only major speech Suslov has made recently was on 25 March on the occasion of 25X1
the anniversary of the Comintern and that in the text available to the Agency,
which appears in the FBIS Soviet Edition of 28 March, there is no suggestion of
such a thesis. Sourwine said he had a copy of this text and it would not be
necessary to send him another.
10. (Unclassified - JMM) Dorothy Fosdick, Staff Director, Subcommittee
on National Security and International Operations, called to request an updating
of material we had provided on two previous occasions regarding what she called
the "Brezhnev doctrine" (Soviet right to intervene where other socialist govern-
ments are threatened as in Czechoslovakia), and the reaction of other Communist
Parties to the Brezhnev doctrine. I said we would be glad to provide any recent
material on the subject but commented that the so-called Brezhnev doctrine
represented nothing very new in Soviet policy, nor, were its implications
as recently discussed in the Soviet media entirely clear. I therefore suggested
it should not be treated as a startling or revolutionary new turn in the Party
line. However I said we would hope to have something on the subject within
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1. (Internal Use Only - JMM) Senator John Sherman Cooper (R. , Ky.)
visited Headquarters this morning, met briefly with the Director privately,
and was briefed for nearly two hours by Mr. Carl Duckett, DDS&T, on Soviet
offensive and defensive weapons. The Director was present during most of this
briefing. I gave the Senator a brief rundown on the Soviet leadership situation.
See Memo for the Record.
2. (Internal Use Only - JMM) John Hurley, of the Bureau of the
Budget, called to say that Mr. Mayo wished to know the present membership
on the Agency's subcommittees in Congress. After providing this information,
I discussed with Mr. Hurley the problems of the Ervin bill (S. 782). Hurley
seemed fairly well up on this and clearly recognized the problems that the
present version of the bill would cause for the Agency. He said he would try
to make sure that these problems were brought to the attention of his colleagues
in BOB.
3. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Bill Sullivan, in the office of Repre-
sentative Glenard Lipscomb (R. , Calif. ), called in connection with an article
listed in the table of contents of the 10 April FBIS Soviet Union Area Book
"Negro Quits Antidiscrimination Post" which did not appear in the body of
the report. Based upon information provided by Miss Endicott, FBIS,
Lipscomb's office was informed that the article will appear in the next issue
of the report and was omitted because of space limitations.
4. (Confidential - GLC) George Murphy, on the staff of the Joint
Committee on Atomic Energy, called and asked for any information which
we might have on the following two individuals:
a Polish scientist who is beina sent to an AEC training school at Argon
National Laboratory, and a technician who will be
in the United States visiting Los Alamos, Berke ey, Oakridge, and the
Princeton Control Thermonuclear Center.
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5. (Confidential - GLC) Brigadier General F. E. Haynes,
Legislative Liaison for the Marine Corps, called to keep me up-to-date
on his dealings with Ed Braswell, Staff Director, Senate Armed Services
Committee, regarding the scheduling of General Cushman's confirmation
hearings. General Haynes said he had been unable to get a definite
commitment from Braswell that the hearings will be scheduled along
with others on Thursday, 17 April. He hopes that Senator John Stennis
(D , Miss.) will make a decision on this next Monday or Tuesday. I
thanked General Haynes for this information which is consistent with
,what. I have obtained directly from Braswell.
6. (Confidential - JGO) Met with Mrs. Oneta Stockstill, House
Armed Services Committee staff, who advised that she had received a call
from North American Aviation on Thursday inquiring whether the showing
of the film, "True Sons of the Soviets, " had been firmed up in the schedule
for 16 April. _Mrs.Stockstill advised that it was and indicated that it had
been her understanding from correspondence received several weeks ago
that a Mr. Coggan of North American Aviation would provide a running
commentary on the film. Mrs. Stockstill advised that she had seen no other
correspondence on the matter. It will be necessary to await Mr. Blandford's
return on Monday to confirm the showing of the film which was worked out
-ifl, Mr- Blandford on 25 March. See DCS Memo for the Record by Mr.
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of Alexandria, Virginia. Mr. Reddan was very pointed in his criticism of the
military for having forwarded the Committee letter to the Army on to GSA
without responding to the Committee. It is his .present desire to meet with
personnel of the Army responsible for approval of the procurement of the
stated items at a later date. He would also like further information on the
cost breakdown of the items. He noted that the Committee is quite concerned
by Army procurement methods in general and is interested in the amount of
procurement being done by the Army through other agencies on a reimbursable
basis as in the instant case. For the moment, Mr. Reddan seems to have no
quarrel with the Agency but is reserving judgment until he completes an
extensive "fishing expedition" in the Army on this matter. The result of the
meeting was passed on to Mr. Roger Currier, of Army L&L, and the Office of
Logistics.
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8. (Unclassified - KEF) Received a call from Mrs. Welsh, in the
office of Senator Thomas J. Dodd, who requested employment information
for a friend of one of the staff members in the office. I advised that the
information would be forwarded today.
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1. (Internal Use Only - KEF) Received a call from Mr. James
Kappus, in the office of Representative Alvin E. O'Konski (R., Wis.),
who requested a personnel interview fo After
making the arrangements witlF- Office of Personnel, I
advised Mr. Kappus that the interview was scheduled for 2:00 p.m. this
afternoon.
2. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Delivered to Mr. Arthur Kuhl,
Chief Clerk, Senate Foreign Relations Committee, the Director's letter
to Chairman Fulbright concerning publication of the hearing transcript
of July 19, 1965. Mr. Kuhl perceives no difficulty with the Agency response.
The letter will be held for Mr. Marcy's return from the European Conference
of Parliamentarians.
3. (Secret - JGO) Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House Appro-
priations Committee staff, who advised that the Chief of Navy L & L had
alerted the Committee to the Soviet film, "True Sons of the Soviets, " and
had recommended it to the Chairman for viewing by the Committee. Mr.
Michaels indicated that he will be back in touch with us on the matter after
he has had an opportunity to discuss it with the Chairman.
With reference to Mr. Michael's earlier comments concerning
a DOD radar project and its relation to Agency programs, Mr. Michaels
indicated that he would like to accept Mr. Duckett's offer for briefing on
the matter at Mr. Duckett's convenience. I advised that I would relay the
request and be back in touch with him tomorrow.
4. (Unclassified - JGO) Received a call from Miss Shirley
Alberts, Assistant to Representative Harold D. Donohue (D. , Mass.),
concerning Agency medical requirements. After talking to the Medical
Office, I advised Miss Alberts that the Agency would require full medical
examination to ascertain physical and emotional health prior to entrance
on duty. Miss Alberts indicated that this was sufficient for response to a
constituent.
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5. (Unclassified - JMM) After checking with the Director, called
Bill Miller, in the office of Senator John Sherman Cooper (R. , Ky.), and
said we would be glad to brief the Senator tomorrow morning at 1030 on
Soviet strategic weapons as requested, but the briefing would be limited to
the Senator alone. Miller, who had earlier indicated that he also planned to
attend, appeared startled and distressed at this word., but said he would
inform the Senator.
In late afternoon, I called the Senator's secretary to ask if we
could provide the Senator with transportation. She expressed surprise on
hearing that the briefing was planned, of which she had heard nothing.
7. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Met with Mr. Philip Manuel, Senate
Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations staff, concerning his earlier
inquiry on statements by Robert Franklin Williams and gave him a copy of
the Montevideo Prensa Latina review of an article on Mr. Williams contained
in the December issue of Manchete, a magazine.
Mr. Manuel said the hearings on the cause of civil disturbance and
urban unrest will commence shortly and feels that they will be able to
corroborate the record accumulated to date in a week or week and a half of
public hearings.
8. (Internal Use Only - LLM) In his absence from the office, left
for Mr. John Lofton Republican Congressional Committee staff, s. copy of
the Montevideo Prensa Latina review of an article on Robert Franklin Williams
contained in the December issue of Manchete, a magazine.
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9. (Secret - GLC) Hand carried to William Woodruff, on the staff
of the Senate Appropriations Committee, the Director's letter to Senator
Richard Russell (D. , Ga.) on the statement carried in Warren Unna's column
in today' s Washington Post. Woodruff had me wait in his office while he took
the letter to Senator Russell. On his return, Woodruff said that Senator Russell
was quite concerned about the situation and might call the Director about it. I
also talked with Woodruff about the request from William Miller for a briefing
of Senator John Sherman Cooper (R. , Ky.) tomorrow. Woodruff also discussed
this with Senator Russell. (See Memo for the Record for details. )
Bill Woodruff said that Admiral Means Johnston, Chief of Legislative
Liaison for the Navy, had recommended to Senator Russell the Soviet film:
True Sons of the People, which Woodruff understood was under Agency control.
Woodruff said he would like to preview this film before suggesting to Senator
Russell that he see it. I did not mention it to Woodruff but I planned to explore
the possibility of having Woodruff attend the viewing of this film at the House
Armed Services Committee on 16 April.
10. (Secret - GLC) In response to the request from Colonel Seymour
Schwiller, on the staff of the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, Messrs.
ent to the JCAE offices to brief Representative
Craig Hosmer (R. , Calif.) on the Moscow ABM system and related subjects.
Due to a concurrent briefing which had been scheduled by Schwiller from DOD
officials, Representative Hosmer elected not to have DOD and CIA briefings
given at the same time and cancelled our briefing. (See Memo for the Record
for details. )
11. (Confidential - GLC) In response to his earlier inquiry, I advised 25X1
Mr. Christopher Sylvester, Administrative Assistant to Sen
(R. , N. Dak. ), that our Director of Personnel had written to
on 19 March sending him forms and had not as yet heard from him. Mr. Sylvester
replied that in a letter to the Senator dated 3 Aprill said he was returning
the forms to the Agency and,therefore, we should expect to receive them
momentarily. I told Mr. Sylvester that when we receive the forms and have had
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of OCI, to debrief Dr. Charles Dunn, Administrative
Assistant to Senator Charles Goodell (R. , N. Y. ) on his recent trip to
Biafra. The debriefing was maintained in low key with DiAXI-n do"' 'I st
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1. (Internal Use Only - CEA) Accompanied I and
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him. Mr. Thompson said Mr would be able to make the appoint-
ment at that time.
4. (Unclassified - JMM) Received a call from Mr. William Miller,
in the office of Senator John Sherman Cooper, who said the Senator would
like to come to the Agency on Friday, 11 April 1969, for a briefing to include:
SS-9 and related rocketry; submarine developments; Soviet ABM efforts; and
the " interral struggle in the Politburd'on this issue. I advised Mr. Miller I
would be back in touch with him.
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5. (Unclassified - JMM) Robert Michaels, House Appropriations
Committee staff, called to ask ab concerning a revolution
in Cuba. After checking with Mr. O/DDI, I called Michaels
back to say that we looked into this and found no confirmation of any sort.
6. (Secret - GLC) Hand carried to Bill Woodruff, on the staff of
the Senate Appropriations Committee, a "fact sheet" prepared by the O/DDI
on the Soviet SS-9 missile and an unclassified photograph of the missile.
Woodruff said the "fact sheet" gave him all the information he needed and he
was quite interested in the picture which appeared to have been taken when the
missile was shown in the Moscow Parade in November, 1967. He said the
Chairman might want to make some use of this.
I mentioned to Woodruff that the Director had decided not to send
letters to Senator Richard Russell (D. , Ga.) and Senator John Stennis (D. , Miss. )
on the NIE question,which had been raised by Senator J. W. Fulbright (D. Ark. ),
since the issue may have passed. They will be sent, however, if the subject is
brought up again. I added that the Director did not want to trouble the Senators
unnecessarily particularly, since both he (Woodruff) and Ed Braswell, Chief of
Staff, Senate Armed Services Committee, would be aware of the situation.
Woodruff mentioned the article which appeared in last night's Star
indicating that the Civil Service Commission might go along with the Ervin bill
if certain changes are made. Woodruff wondered what affect this would have on
our problem with the bill. I told him that two of the key provisions which caused
the Agency problems might be altered in the bill according to the newspaper
account and,as a result, we are checking with the Civil Service Commission and
reviewing the situation in the light of this possibility.
7. (Unclassified - GLC) Mr. Christopher Sylvester, Administrative
A.q.qir,fant in the &Ii~ e of Senator Milton Young (RC. , N. Dak. ), called to say that
25X1 ad been in touch with them again indicating that he had not
heard anything from the Agency regarding his application for employment. Mr.
Sylvester asked the status of the application. I told him I would check on this
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8. (Secret - GLC) Met with Ed Braswell, Staff Director of the
Senate Armed Services Committee, to alert him to the situation regarding
Senator J. W. Fulbright's (D. , Ark.) query to Under Secretary of State
Richardson on the subject of availability of national intelligence estimates
for the Foreign Relations Committee. I advised Braswell that the Director
had prepared letters to Senator Richard Russell (D. , Ga.) and Senator John
Stennis (D. , Miss.) on the problem but was holding them for the moment,
since the issue seems to have subsided. Braswell ventured the opinion
that Senator Fulbright would not press for the NIEs but was merely testing
Under Secretary Richardson. He added, however, that if this question should
ever come to issue this was one which would justify invoking executive privilege.
Braswell and I again discussed General Cushman's confirmation
hearing. He said the Marine Corps was in almost daily contact with him and
that the earliest possible date for a confirmation hearing was 17 April. He
said the Committee has scheduled procurement hearings on that date but there
is a possibility that they can also schedule the confirmation hearing on the same
day. Chairman Stennis has not made a decision on this yet.
Mr. Braswell brought up the subject of the Evening Star article
on the Ervin bill and said he assumed that it would be helpful to us if Senator
Ervin made the concession reportedly under consideration. He asked what our
view would be on this. I told him that our people were contacting the Civil
Service Commission today and were in the process of reviewing our position
in the light of these possible changes.
9. (Secret - GLC) At the request of Le al Advisor 25X1
to the Office of Lo istics, I met with Messrs. B a e, [ -1 25X1
Ion a problem involving the procurement o special equipment
by the Agency for the Army and, particularly, an inquiry made on this
equipment by John Reddan, Special Counsel to the Subcommittee for Special
Investigations of the House Armed Services Committee, to GSA at Blake's
request. I met with Reddan and told him that this was a problem involving the
Agency and not GSA and indicated that we would be in further contact with him
about it tomorrow. As a result of this contact, no action is required by GSA.
(See Memo for the Record for details. )
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to say that they had reviewed the situation regarding USIA's request for
information on Radio Free Asia and are responding to USIA to the effect
that this Agency had no additional information on the organization over
and above that which was already available to USIA.
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1. (Confidential - CEA) Talked to Mr. Vincent Augliere, House
Committee on Foreign Operations and Government Information, concerning
I about whom Augliere had inquired.
informed him that the Agency is not involved in this case which is strictly
a visa problem and suggested that he may want to talk to State Department.
Augliere said this was all he needed to know and suggested that we might
research in Poland.
is a high official in nuclear
I passed the latter information on to
2. (Confidential - GLC) Dorothy Fosdick, on the staff of the
Subcommittee on National Security and International Operations, called
and asked if we could provide her with the text of an article which appeared
in PRAVDA by Eduard Bagramov. According to Miss Fosdick there was
a reference to this article in this morning's newspaper. This item was
located by FBIS and forwarded to Miss Fosdick.
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4. (Secret - GLC) Colonel Seymour Schwiller, on the staff of
the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, called to say that Representative
Craig Hosmer (R. , Calif.) had requested a briefing on Thursday morning
at 0930 hours on the Soviet ABM system. He said that the Congressman
might also be interested in other areas such as CEP of ICBMs and the
Tallinn system. I told Schwiller I would look into this and be back in
touch with him later this afternoon or tomorrow morning.
5. (Unclassified - GLC) Left with Winston Bryant, Legislative
Assistant for Senator John McClellan (D. , Ark.), back up materials
including the exchange of correspondence between the Director and Senator
Ervin having to do with the Agency's problems regarding S. 782. I told
Mr. Bryant that, after he had an opportunity to review this material,
I would be happy to discuss it with him further and answer any questions
he might have.
6. (Secret - GLC) Called George Murphy, on the staff of the Joint
Committee on Atomic Energy, regarding his query about Suslov. I told
Murphy that I had talked with our people about this, that there are, in fact,
two Suslovs: one is a member of the Politburo and the other is a member of
the Foreign Ministry, who has been involved in disarmament negotiations at
Geneva. I told him that in any event we are not aware of any militant
statements made concerning actions which the USSR planned to take against
the United States.
In connection with Murphy's general question on this point, I
advised him that the Soviets were not making strong statements regarding
their missile superiority and, in fact, appeared to be suppressing this type
of conversation in view of the current atmosphere regarding disarmament
negotiations.
Mr. Murphy said he understood that at Geneva today ACDA represen-
tatives made a proposal which would have the affect of the U. S. receding from
its position with respect to on-site inspection. According to Murphy, ACDA,
justified this because it is believed that our national verification capabilities
are sufficient to detect new declared atomic energy facilities. Murphy said in
discussing this with ACDA officials he was advised that this decision concerning
our capability was made "with the approval and support of the National Security
Council" including Mr. Helms. Murphy thought the Director would be interested
in knowing that these statements we
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1. (Internal Use Only - LLM) John Lofton, Republican Congressional
Committee staff, called and said he would like to review the FBIS Latin
America Daily Reports covering the summer of 1964 in hopes of coming
across further statements by Robert F. Williams along the lines of Williams'
August 1964 broadcast from Havana. Based upon information provided by
Doris Falcone, FBIS, told Lofton that these reports were available in the
Library of Congress in the agency serial collection.
2. (Unclassified - RW) Mr. S. Arnold Smith, Staff Attorney, House
Special Subcommittee on Invest' ations, called to request an employment
interview for The appointment was made for 9:00 a. m. ,
15 April 1969 wit Personnel, and Mr. Smith advised.
3. (Secret - GLC) Hand carried to George Murphy, on the staff of
the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, the Director's letter of 4 April 1969
providing further damage assessment information on the Imre case. I also
hand carried to Murphy, Mr. Maury's response to Mr. Bauser's letter
requesting any information which the Agency had on commercial use of
classified U. S. information by NATO countries.
Mr. Murphy said that a Soviet named allegedly made
statements recently of a rather bellicose nature with regard to actions
which the Soviet Union could, and possibly would, take against the United
States. Mr. Murphy would like any references which we might have to
such statements. He said he would also appreciate if we could pinpoint
in the Library of Congress or elsewhere sources of some of the more
obvious and recent statements by Soviet officials on the subject of Soviet
missile superiority. I told Murphy I would check on this and be in touch
with him.
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4. (Secret - GLC) I Agency liaison with the
State Department and USIA, called to say that USIA. has contacted us in
connection with a request which they received from Senator George
Murphy (R. , Calif.) for a briefing on Radio Free Asia including the Korean
Cultural and Educational Council which sponsors it. USIA desires any
information which the Agency might have to be included in a briefing of
the Senator. He added that this briefing is being arranged at the personal
direction of Mr. Shakespear. FE Division is pulling together the information
for the Agency. I suggested that once this is done the DD/P be consulted
and that jointly we could decide whether this information should be passed
to USIA and whether we would prefer to brief Senator Murphy separately on
it. I then alerted Mr. to this. later informed me
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the Murphy briefing and one for information to be provided to the President.
I Iwill be in touch with us when this material is compiled.
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1. (Confidential - JGO) Talked to Mr. Paul Goulding, Administra-
tive Assistant to Senator Claiborne Pell, with reference to the claim for
indemnity of Mr. I advised Mr. Goulding that we have not
25X1 been able to identify a basis for support of the claim as for possible
limited employment mentioned by the Senator as prospects are exceedingly
removed due to the BALPA cutbacks. I made a tentative date to meet
with Mr. Goulding on Thursday, 10 April, on this matter.
2. (Internal Use Only - CEA) Trudi Wright, in the office of
Representative Lloyd Meeds (D. , Wash. ),called to seek Agency assistance
in locating whose family believes he was in some way
connected with the Agency. This had previously been checked out thoroughly
with negative results and I suggested to Miss Wright that she check with
the State Department. I was last heard from in Venezuela. 25X1
3. (Secret - GLC) Checked with Bill Woodruff, on the staff of the
Senate Appropriations Committee, regarding his request for a "fact sheet"
on the Soviet SS-9 missile. Woodruff said he was interested in the general
characteristics of the missile especially, its capabilities and the size of
the payload. He inferred that he desired this information in connection
with current testimony which has been given on the hearing with regard to
the Sentinel program.
Referring to our conversation the other day on the subject of
NIE's, Woodruff mentioned that several years ago Secretary McNamara
sent the Senate Appropriations Committee an excerpt from an NIE for the
obvious purpose of avoiding invoking executive privilege for refusing to
provide that information. Woodruff went on to say that if the "secret
seven" raised a question concerning the availability of an NIE for their
use they would want access to the estimate but would not want custody of it.
This is an interesting point to be kept in mind if we should become involved
in the specifics of this issue in the future.
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4. (Secret - GLC) Talked with Mr. Robert Bannerman, DD/ S, and
Mr. of Personnel, about arrangements for General Cushman's
appearance before the Senate Armed Services Committee for his confirmation
hearing. I told them that it was my impression (and I had confirmed this with
Ed Braswell, of the Committee staff) that the Marine Corps would make
arrangements with the Committee to schedule a date for General Cushman's
hearing. Once that date is established, we would then assume all other
responsibilities with respect to the hearing. 25X1
5. (Confidential - GLC) Miss Peggy McDonald, on the staff of
Senator Henry M. Jackson (D. , Wash. ), called regarding a telephone call
which their Seattle office had received fronF-
Miss McDonald
his inquiry which had to do with his appeal to his Selective Service Board his classification of him as IA. Miss McDonald suggested that
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state,and m d given him this suggestion. This was
passed on to for his information.
6. (Secret - GLC) Alerted George Murphy, on the staff of the Joint
Committee on Atomic Energy, to the fact that the Chinese Communists were
preparing for another nuclear test.
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1. (Unclassified - LLM) Mrs. Ester Hickey, Joint Economic
Committee staff, called and requested a subscription to run through August
1969 for the FBIS Latin America daily report. FBIS, was
2. (Unclassified - LLM) Miss Janice Kummer, Civil Service
Commission, in Denver, Colorado, called explaining that she was having
difficulty in obtaining information on employment opportunities in Federal
25X1 service for law school graduates and mentioned that she had been given the
name of I briefly explained the opportunities with this
A enc and in the interest of being more responsive to her requirements,
25X1 ill contact her in his Federal Bar Association capacity.
3. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Mr. Bill Adams, Legislative Counsel
Office, House of Representatives, called to advise that he had completed
work on the forms for his security clearances and he will be forwarding
them.
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4. (Unclassified - JGO) Returned the call of Janice Kummer, Civil
Service Commission, in Denver, Colorado, concerning placement opportunities
for attorneys. Miss Kummer advised that she is working with the University
law school placement program. Advised Miss Kummer that we are a small
Agency with the result of limited placement opportunities and referred her to
the Chairman of the Federal Bar Association Placement Committee for
definitive across-the-board information on placement opportunities in the 25X1
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6. (Secret - GLC) Hand carried to James Kendall, Staff Director
of the Senate Preparedness Subcommittee, follow tip papers prepared by
OSR, on "Estimated Soviet Heavy Bomber Numbers" and
"Percentage of Soviet' Intercontinental Nuclear Attack Capability Represented
by Soviet Hea orce. 11 These papers were in response to questions
raised during briefing of the ad hoc Subcommittee on Bomber Defense.
I advised Colonel Harper, of the Preparedness Subcommittee staff,
that we were preparing the answers to the questions which were raised during
Mr. Duckett's briefing of the ad hoc Subcommittee on Research and Develop-
ment and would transmit them to him as soon as they were completed.
7. (Secret - GLC) Messrs. Maury an et with Senator John 25X1
McClellan (D. , Ark.) to renew our offer to resume the briefings which were
begun during the visit which he and Senator Henry Jackson (D. , Wash.) recently
paid to the Agency. We specifically mentioned a briefing by Mr. Duckett. We
also discussed in some detail the Agency's problems with regard to the Ervin
bill (S. 782). Senator McClellan is sympathetic to our position and opposed to
the bill generally. (See Memo for the Record for details. )
8. (Confidential - GLC) Picked up from Dorothy Fosdick, Staff Director
of the Subcommittee on National Security and International Operations, two books:
The First Vietnam Crisis and Communist China in World Politics; the last of the
books which were loaned to the staff.
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the staff of the Senate Appropriations Committee, and alerted him to Senator
J. W. Fulbright's (D. , Ark.) request to the Under Secretary of State, Elliot L.
Richardson, for a copy of a new intelligence estimate having to do with Soviet
weaponry. We advised Woodruff that the Director proposed to send letters to
Senators Russell and Stennis informing them of this request and also informing
them of the Director's intention to decline to provide any NIE to the Foreign
Relations Committee referring the matter to the President if Senator Fulbright
persisted in his request. Woodruff appeared to be in accord with the Director's
proposed course of action on this but suggested that we avoid, to the fullest
extent possible, the question of executive privilege. In discussing this suggestion
we mentioned that certain NIE' s pertaining to atomic energy matters are provided
to the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy and Woodruff understood this and, in
fact, referred to the Atomic Energy Act provisions under which this information
was provided the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy.
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10. (Secret - JGO) Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, House Armed
Services Committee staff, in response to Chairman Pike's request for an
unclassified summary of the Director's testimony on the Pueblo inquiry for
inclusion in the published hearings of the Committee. I reviewed with him
again, the substantive content of the Director's testimony and the problems
inherent in open publication of matters of testimony by the Director. With
some reluctance, Mr.S.latinshek. accepted the determination that an unclassified
summary cannot be provided. Mr. Slatinshek pointed out that Mr. Seligman,
of NBC, has spent a couple of hours with the Committee staff requesting infor-
mation for a white paper on the Pueblo to be presented in the near future by
NBC. He noted that Mr. Seligman had been on this assignment since January
and that by his questions, apparently has gathered more material on the
subject than is available at present to the Subcommittee. It is noted that
although Mr. Slatinshek has relented in the Committee's request, pressures
for publication of all public information by the Committee could well result
in a renewed request to the Agency at a later date.
Briefed Mr. Slatinshek on the Soviet helicopter, Leningrad, and
reviewed with him the Daily News press report of Senator Ervin's remarks
concerning Agency opposition to S. 782.
11. (Secret - JGO) Met with Mr. Carl Marcy, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee staff, and discussed with him Chairman Fulbright's request for
review of the transcript of Admiral Raborn's testimony of July 19, 1965 with
respect to the Dominican Republic for possible publication. Mr. Marcy noted
that there is no intention of release of testimony on Agency matters but requested
that we provide a letter to the Chairman setting forth some specifics as to why
the Agency is unable to sanitize and release the transcript. See Memo for Record.
Mr. Marcy noted that a problem is generating within the Committee
relating to the testimony of Secretary Laird concerning first-strike capability and
new intelligence information on the SS-9. He noted the ball is in State Depart-
ment's court as a result of an exchange between Chairman Fulbright and Under
Secretary Elliot Richardson during the Spanish base hearings yesterday and
apologized that the transcript would not be available until tomorrow morning, if
we cared to review it. Since the exchange with Under Secretary Richardson
related to the new intelligence estimate on the SS-9, Mr. Marcy felt that the
matter would be of interest to us. See Memo for the Record.
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1. (Confidential - GLC) George Murphy, on the staff of the Joint
Committee on Atomic Energy, called to say that the AEC had on display in
the JCAE hearings room today a number of models of various missiles --
included was a model of the Soviet SS-9 along with the U. S. Spartan and
Sprint. According to Murphy, Senator John Pastore (D. , R. I.) queried the
AEC representative, Glenn Wiltrout, as to whether he could borrow the
model of the SS-9. Wiltrout responded that it was classified and in response
to a further question from Pastore inferred that the model had been obtained
from CIA. Murphy wished to know whether this model could be used by
Senator Pastore in a nopen forum. After checking DD/S&T and Dr. Charles
Reichardt of AEC, I advised Murphy that the model was not ours but had
been made by AEC elements using information from a variety of sources
including ourselves. I added, aside from any security aspects, it was my
understanding that there Iwexe some technical inaccuracies in the model
which were being corrected and that Senator Pastore might not wish to use
it under the circumstances. Murphy agreed and said he would recommend
that the Senator not use the model.
2. (Confidential - GLC) David Martin, on the staff of Senator
Thomas Dodd D. , Conn. , called and asked if we had any information on
a Vietnamese, who according to Martin is an official in the
International Association of Criminology. Martin said that as
corresponded with Senator Dodd in the past but has now asked for an
opportunity to meet with him. Martin would like any information we might
be able to provide the Senator on this individual. I told him I would check
on this and be in touch with him.
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3. (Confidential - CEA) Talked to Dr. Dunn, Administrative
Assistant to Senator Charles Goodell (R. , N. Y. ), about the possibility
of one of our analysts discussing his trip to Biafra with him. Dunn
said he would be happy to do so and it was agreed that I would arrange
a mutually agreeable time with his Secretary, Judy Liffman.
4. (Confidential - CEA) Talked tol a former Agency
employee who is retired on medical disability concerning his" claim.
I has, on several occasions, gone to Representative Joel Broyhill
R. , Va.) concerning his claim and had received a copy of an Agency letter
to Broyhill explaining the situation. was basically interested in the
question as to where he goes from here in pursuing his n of
him he would be well advised to stay in close touch with nd
both of whom have worked with him in the past. I Isaid he
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in the office of Senator J. W. Fulbright (D., Ark.), who wanted to know
whether a constituent could obtain a subscription to the FBIS Latin America
Daily Report. I explained the "official use only" nature of this publication
and suggested that she check with the Document Expediting Project at the
Library of Congress concerning a subscription to the FBIS White Book.
She thanked me for the assistance.
6. (Secret - JGO) Met with Representative John M. Slack (D. , W. Va.)
and reviewed with him the Agency memorandum on "North Korean Violations
of the Armistice, " which was prepared in response to questions raised by
Representative Slack during the Director's briefing of the Appropriations
Committee on 13, 14, and 17 March. Representative Slack expressed his
appreciation in following up on the request and after review, returned the
memorandum for inclusion in the transcript which is being held by the Agency
for the Committee.
Representative Slack expressed his personal concern over the
ABM question and asked if the intelligence community has reliable information
on the reasons why the Soviets did not complete the originally planned ABM
installations around Moscow. He noted further his personal appreciation
for the information and guidance provided by the Director's briefing of the
Committee. Overall, it was a most friendly and cordial meeting and
evidenced Representative Slack's personal regard for the Director and the
Agency.
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7. (Secret - JGO) Met with Representative Glenard P. Lipscomb
(R. , Calif.) who provided a copy of a letter being circulated to members
of the House seeking cosponsorship on a House bill to be introduced that
will be identical to the Ervin bill (S. 782). I thanked Mr. Lipscomb for
his consideration in bringing this matter to our attention. Mr. Lipscomb
advised that he will be in the city until Friday when he will be returning
to California for the Easter recess. He noted that he will not be able to
put any time on the question of the Soviet threat before his return to
Washington but he would appreciate such updating or revision of the
unclassified paper provided him in September, as we may be able to
provide at this time.
Reviewed with Representative Lipscomb the Agency memoranda
"Shipment of Combat Material to North Vietnam, " and "Soviet, Eastern
European, and Communist Chinese Economic and Military Aid to North
Korea" which had been prepared in response to questions raised by Mr.
Lipscomb during the Director's briefing of 13, 14, and 17 March. Mr.
Lipscomb was most appreciative noting in particular the two submarines
furnished North Korea, which was new information to the Committee.
8. (Unclassified - JGO) In response to his request, delivered to
Mr. Bruce Merkle, Administrative Assistant to Representative William
Bray, a professional brochure and employment application for use in
responding to a constituent request.
9. (Unclassified - JGO) Picked up from Senator Aiken's office,
in response to their call, a letter for the Director.
10. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Met with Mr. Bun Bray, House
Post Office and Civil Service Committee, and provided a copy of the
Galifianakis letter seeking cosponsors on a House companion bill to the
Ervin bill (S. 782) to be introduced in ten days or two weeks. At Mr.
Bray's suggestion, I also provided a copy of the letter to Mr. Charles
Whitley, Administrative Assistant to Representative David N. Henderson
(D. , N. Car. )
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11. (Confidential - JMM) Bill Trueheart, DDC/INR State Department,
called to thank us for showing him a copy of our proposed answer to some
questions by the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy regarding possible
compromise of U. S. NATO security information through commercial channels.
Trueheart said he thought our answer was accurate, although fairly far-reaching,
and responsive to the Joint Committee's query. However, Trueheart wondered
whether some of the language might be altered slightly to avoid unnecessary
trouble for the Department without, however, changing the factual content.
I said this might be possible but I was not the n-ne to negotiate with. At
Trueheart's suggestion I therefore called nd asked him to discuss
the matter with Wolfgang Lehman, the State Department officer who maintains
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12. (Unclassified - JMD) Miss Flanagan, in the office of Representative
Walter Flowers, called and asked whether we were still planning to have a
another breakfast meeting for freshmen congressmen. She said Mr. Flowers
was quite disappointed when he was unable to attend the last one. She was
informed that there would be another one although the date had not as yet
been decided.
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1. (Secret - GLC) Met with Bill Woodruff, on the staff of the
Senate Appropriations Committee, and left with him copies of the Daily
News item of 28 March reporting on Senator Ervin's comments at the
Bar Association meeting on Agency activity against S. 782 and the excerpt
from Bill Monroe's interview with Senator William Proxmire (D., Wis.)
in which reference was made to the size of the CIA's budget. I suggested
that he might want to bring these to the attention of Senator Russell. I
mentioned to Woodruff that we had not as yet received an answer to the
Director's second letter to Senator Ervin regarding an opportunity to
appear before his Subcommittee in executive session on S. 782 and added
that we were attempting to talk with Senator John McClellan (D. , Ark. )
about the bill.
I left with Woodruff a copy of Senator Mike Mansfield' s (,D.. ,
Mont.) letter to the Director asking that we submit a draft bill codifying
and updating Agency authority for the conduct of research and development.
I asked Woodruff whether he knew if similar letters. had been sent to the DoD
or any other agency. He said he was not aware of this but that he would
check on it. It was agreed that I would draft a rather general response to
Senator Mansfield's letter and check it out within the next day or two.
2. (Secret - JGO) Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House
Appropriations Committee staff, and reviewed with him the press report
of Senator Ervin's statements before the Federal Bar Association con-
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3. (Secret - GLC) Met with Ed Braswell, Chief of Staff, Senate
Armed Services Committee, and gave him copies of the Daily News item
containing Senator Sam J. Ervin's (D. , N. Car.) remarks at the Federal
Bar Association meeting about the Agency in connection with S. 782. I
also gave him a copy of the excerpt of Bill Monroe's interview with
Senator William Proxmire (D., Wis.) where reference was made to the
size of the Agency budget. I suggested to Braswell that he might want to
call these two items to the attention of Senator Stennis.
Braswell asked how things were going on the Ervin bill. I
told him we have not as yet received a response to the Director's second
letter in which he repeated his request for an opportunity to appear in
executive session on the bill and that we were attempting to see Senator
John McClellan (D. , Ark. ). Braswell said he thought that an approach to
McClellan by anyone other than the Director would not accomplish its
purpose in further discussion of our chances of success in getting an
exemption from this bill. Braswell strongly urged that we concentrate
our efforts on the members of the Ervin Subcommittee. He believes that
it would be useless to try to block the bill or to obtain our exemption in
full committee. In other words, Braswell feels unless we can accomplish
our objectives in the Ervin Subcommittee, we might as well fight our battle
in the House. He added that if we could get Senator McClellan and Senator
Birch Bayh (D. , Ind.) on our side they could accomplish our purposes for us.
I told Braswell that our people were maintaining contact with
Marine Corps personnel regarding General Cushman's return and understood
arrangements for his appearance in confirmation hearings were being
handled directly by the Marine Corps. Braswell said he understood General
Cushman would be available on the 15th of April.
4. (Secret - GLC) I happened to see Senator Stuart Symington
(D. , Mo.) who mentioned that Mr. Maury had been up to talk with him on
the subject of recent comments on the size of the Agency's budget. The
Senator said he was holding off on this but planned to discuss it with
Senator Russell at the earliest opportunity. I acknowledged that this
presented a problem but pointed out that the difficulty would be in trying
to counter these statements without divulging critical information in the
process. The Senator indicated that he agreed this was a problem but he
plans to pursue it further.
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5. (Internal Use Only - LLM) In response to his call on S. J. Res. 75
sponsored by Senators Gore and Percy (providing for a comprehensive study
of weapons technology and foreign policy strategy by an independent commission),
advised Mr. David Muchow, Bureau of the Budget, that the Agency had no
comments to offer and thanked him for considering the Agency's interests. The
office of DD/I, DD/S&T, and NIPE supported this response. See Journal of
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