{NO. 56} SUBCOMMITTEE NO. 1 CONSIDERATION OF S. 3001, TO AMEND TITLE 37, UNITED STATES CODE, TO INCREASE THE RATES OF BASIC PAY FOR MEMBERS OF THE UNIFORMED SERVICES

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[No. 561
SUBCOMMITTEE NO. 1 CONSIDERATION OF S. 3001, TO AMEND
TITLE 37, UNITED STATES CODE, TO INCREASE THE RATES OF
BASIC PAY FOR MEMBERS OF THE UNIFORMED SERVICES
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
SUBCOMMITTEE NO. 1 OF THE
COMMITTEE ON ARMED SEItVI-C1;, ,.
Washington, D.C., Wednesday, July 22, 1964.
The subcommittee mot at 10 a.m., Hon. L. Mendel Rivers (chairman
of the subcommittee) presiding.
Mr. RIVERS. Lot the committee come to order.
This is about a seven-page statement, and I am going to ask Mr.
Blandford to read it.
Mr. BLANDFORD. All right, sir.
Mr. RIVERS. Because I have been speaking since 7 this morning.
So, Mr. Blandford, you read this statement for me.
Mr. BLANDFORD. All right, sir.
Mr. RIVERS. And read it as strongly as you know how.
Mr. BLANDFORD (reading): Members of the committee, we are
beginning hearings this morning on S. 3001, a very modest military
pay increase proposal.
(The bill is as follows-committoe insert:)
[S. 3001, 88th Cong., 2d sass.]
AN ACT To amend title 37, United States Code, to increase the rates of basic pay for members of the
uniformed services
Be it enacted by the Senate and house of Representatives of the United States of
America in Congress assembled, That section 203(a) of title 37, United States Code,
is amended to read as follows:
"(a) The rates of monthly basic pay for members of the uniformed services
within each pay grade are set forth in the following tables:
0-10 1------------
$1,302.00
$1,347.90
$1,347.90
$1,347.90
$1,347.90
$1.,309.20
$1,399.20
0-9-------------
1,153.80
1,183.80
1,209.60
1,209.60
1,200.60
1,240.20
1
240.20
0-8-----
1,045.20
1,076.40
1, 101.90
1,101.90
1,101.90
1,183.80
,
1
183.80
0-7------------
868. 20
927.60
927.60
927. 60
068. 70
908. 70
,
1,025.10
0-6--------------
643. 20
707. 40
753.30
753. 30
753.30
753.30
753.30
0-5--------------
514-50
604.80
645. 90
645:90
645.00
645.90
666.30
0-4--------------
434.10
528. 00
563. 70
563.70
573.90
509. 70
640. 50
0-3 2-------------
353. 70
450.90
481. 80
533. 10
668.60
579.00
609. 90
0-2 2-------------
281.40
384.30
461. 40
476. 70
486.90
486.00
440. 90
0-1 2-------------
241. 20
307. 50
384.30
384.30
384.30
384.30
384.30
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"COMMISSIONED OrFIcEiis-Continued
Soars of service computed under section 215
Over 12
-41.5(14.D0
Over 14
$1,5011.90
Over 16
$I. G14,30
(I-H---- ----
----- -' 1.1'91.50
1 1.291.311.)
1.399.20
O-8 -----
-. --...-- 1.240.!)
1.110.22.0
1 291. 50
O-;
1.11.!5.10
1.076.40:
1.133-'10
a r: -----
------- _1 753.30
779.10
9(1'..10
a-.5---------------- _-I 70_.00
74&20
9)4.(5)
1) 4
6711 50
- - - -
707.40
73-1.W
II 3 r _ _
640-50
1 (1.1. 10
1011. t0
U-1: - _ --
__- 491.90
1 485.90
431.90
1=------------ 384.30
! 384.30 ;
354.30
Over 18 Over 8)
$1.614.30$1.7` W
1.309. 1.5()13. W
1, 347. W L 3!((i. ;97
1.266.00 L 20'1 00
M. 00 901 70
850.80 476.30
5)44(1 73814')
GS& 10 1}56 I0
4811_710 496 90
381.30. 3114.30
Over ?"
Over 26 Over 30
51,7::.0
$1,"A.70 11,920.70
1.1106.90
1. G14. 30 1614.30
455. 60
1, 455.00 I:455. 60
1.261. 00 1
1, 16t - W - 1, 2601 W
1,0'25. 10
1. Ill. I0 1.112.11)
9(7.'20
907.20 x.20
751.40 1
7511.41) 7.1%.40
1737. 10
1151. 10 6156. 10
4116. W
441..90 i 486. 90
3114.30
334.30 3`14.30
?'I 51. bile servine -is ('hairman or tbo Joint ('biers or itaf. ('Lief or 4t.,iT of the Armny, Chief W Nava I
(I 'ral(ons, ('file) of Stall of the ' it Force, or I, oOm alit tilt of t(v' vi,trine ('ores, 111 is p:15 for Ibis gra)lo
i' "_.019,30 regi dIcxs of cunutlatlve vans of service c):uputed under a-etum 295 of this title.
'= Dons not apply to (wnunlosl'nied ollicers who have been (rodiled with over 4 ye-trc' active service as
an enlisted member.
"COMMISSIONED 0FFI('EIC, %%lfu II SVE SEEN CREDITED WI-1-11 OvE1'1 -1 Y E:',RS'
ACTIVE SERVICE AS AN RNLI. ThD ALESIRER
l ear>,1f -rvlce 1 )l lpnte'I tinder wction 205
"l'ly grade
8..33. 11) 555( 14) 5579. 00 $1.9. W . 51:10.50 ~ 8660. 30
(1-2 _ 17.1. 70 434. S-0 .50_'. 20 , &S. 00 541.40 503. ;0
(1-1 .1164. 31) , 4111. 10 425.40 440.7)1 456. 1.0 I 476.70
5 ,-.r. of -?rvico co(npu[e'I under section 2115
,.I'av era, le
11-3- -.---
a 1.
(1_
;14111.:111 $6111 0 $1506. Jo $1451 3) $116(1.30 8666. 311
51.3. 71 56.1. 70 563.:0 513. 71) 563.70 563.70
176.70 476. 79 476.70 4;15.:1; 470.7 ) , 476 711
5t'-)
5% 2-
'v-1-
2..r less Over 1 Oyer 3 Over 4 Ovcr 6 , Over S O%ei 111 j aver 12
8:3)11. 1)
3.^(.50
,,%-.40 I
X13. _1I
"Pay grado
W-4_----___ _ __- -
-------------------------- -~
W-3
R'-2------------------ -1
----------------__
W-1
5440.71)
$410. 70
'(4511.4
$471.0) 1145,-. oo 5517.40 , *W.40
405. Ii)
41)5, no
410. 10
415. .'!I 445. 80 471.(Y) 41141.00
'11.5$.7)1
35170
3153, y0 '
3.34. 3(1 405. W , 42) .31. 43.1. 40)
31'2. GI
31'2, 611
3163. 40
333. 71) 30,00 ' 384. 30 39)) W
aver 14
Over 16
Over 111
Over 20 Over 22 Over 21- Over 30
5 4.99
8594 Iy)
$)1)9.!10
$63(1 11
$051.18)
1;717..00
0702.00
5 62 20
51 SO
533. I0
553.311
573.90
594.60
5)14.60
450.90
4(150
431.sl)
4117.1))
517.50
517. 50
517.50
445.211 ,
430.50
445.1]1)
401.40
4111.40
461.40
461.40
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Years of service computed under section 205
Over 2 I Over 3 I Over 4 I Over 6 I Over 8 I Over 10
E-9 ------------------
E-8 ------------------
P-7------------------
F-6---- -------------
P-5------------------
14-4------------------
E-3------------------
F-2------------------
F-1------------------
13-1 (under 4
months) -----------
$206 -56-
176 81
145.24
122.30
99.37
85.80
83.20
F-9----------------------------
T-8----------------------------
E-'----------------------------
1-6----------------------------
F-5 ------------
P-4--------------------------
F-3---------------------------
E-2- ------------
E-1--------------------------
$282 -66-
246 . 00
215. 40
184.50
148. 50
123.00
112.80
$466. 50
405.00
358.80
322.80
287.10
220. 50
169.20
123.00
11'2.80
$292 20
256.20
225.60
194.70
159. 00
123. 00
112. 80
$302.-i6-
266. 40
235.80
210.00
169.20
123.00
112.80
$450.00
394.50
343.50
312.60
282.00
220. 50
169.20
123.00
112.80
x;312 60
276. 90
251.10
220. 50
169.20
123.00
112.80
$374 10
322. 80
287. 10
261.30
220.50
169.20
323.00
112.80
$445.80
384.30
333.00
297.30
271.50
220. 50
169.20
123.00
112.80
$476.70
415. 20
369. 00
333.00
287.10
2?0 50
16f1, 20
123.00
112.80
$486.90
425.40
379. 20
338. 40
287. 10
220. 50
169.20
123.00
112.80
$497. 10
435.60
384.30
338. 40
287. 10
220. 50
169.20
123.00
112.80
$522. 90
461.40
410. 10
338.40
287. 10
220.50
169. 20
123.00
112.80
$573.90
512.40
461.40
338.40
287. 10
220.50
169.20
123.00
112.80
$573.90
512.40
461,40
338.40
287.10
220.50
169.20
123. 00
112.80."
Sec. 2. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a member of an armed
force who was entitled to pay and allowances under any of the following provisions
of law on the day before the effective date of this Act shall continue to receive the
pay and allowances to which he was entitled on that day:
(1) The Act of March 23, 1946, chapter 112 (60 Stat. 59).
(2) The Act of June 26, 1948, chapter 677 (62 Stat. 1052).
(3) The Act of September 18, 1950, chapter 952 (64 Stat. A224).
SEC. 3. The enactment of this Act does not reduce-
(1) the rate of dependency and indemnity compensation under section 411
of title 38, United States Code, that any person was receiving on the day
before the effective date of this Act or which thereafter becomes payable for
that day by reason of a subsequent determination; or
(2) the basic pay or the retired pay or retainer pay to which a member or
former member of a uniformed service was entitled on the day before the
effective date of this Act.
Sec. 4. This Act becomes effective on the first day of the first calendar month
beginning after the date of enactment of this Act.
Passed the Senate July 20, 1964.
Attest: FELTON M. JOHNSTON,
Secretary.
Mr. BLANDFOID. Now, let me tell you what the bill does, what the
Department of Defense proposed, and what I suggest we do.
Stated simply, the bill increases the pay of all officers and warrant
officers with over 2 years of service by 2.5 percent, and all enlisted
personnel with over 2 years of service by 2.5 percent.
Commissioned. and warrant officers with under 2 years of service
receive an 8.5-percent increase because they have not been increased
since 1952, and the Senate report has recommended a greater increase
for this group on the grounds that young commissioned officers with
under 2 years of service, following a short orientation course "are
assigned to jobs carrying the full responsibility for the grade concerned
and they are, therefore, not in a training status."
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The Senate report also points out that it young second lieutenant or
first lieutenant is usually 4 to 7 years older thatl the enlisted man that
is drafted. The Senate report further states that 55 percent of the
second lieutenants and 69 percent of the first lieutentints itre married
and, thus, have dependents; whereas only 16.5 percent of the enlisted
personnel are married. I presume this refers to enlisted personnel
with under 2 years of service.
The Senate report also points out that no increase is provided for
enlisted personnel with under 2 years of service because, for the most
part, they the in it trainiltg status but that, in addition, the young
nian who enters service irs an E.-1 recruit is normally assured of three
pay raises during his fitst 2 years of service, with it good chance of re-
ceiving it fourth increase. That i-, after 4 months, the E -1 recruit is
increased from S78 to 553.20 a month and shortly thereafter, is pro-
moted to E-2 at $85.90 a mnou0i. And most of the young met. who
enter service ttre promoted to l -:t in their first 2 years of service at
a pay of 599.37.
Second lieutemant-, on the otlit r humd, under present law receive
w222.:30 It .month and they miorntnlly wait IS month; hefor-. they are
promoted to first lietitenaut.
I n 19fi3, t lie Committee oil dented `'ervices rejected aaty increases
for members of the armed services with under years of service on
the : is dependent (311 >t cost-of-living
increase before theare granted itu re-tses.
(\1r. Blandford nods)
Mr. WILSON. So I want it pretty clear as to whether this should be
considered a cost-Of-living increment or for comparability reasons or
sonic other reasons.
cost-of living increase.
Secretary PAUL. A;0; it re>-llV is 110t It
%1r. Bn.ASDFORll. I think, AIr. Wilson, the cost-of-living index
would run about I.S.
Secretory PAUL. Ies; I have that. It runs about 1.2 portent over
the same period under which these percentages were cwupilcd.
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Mr. WILSON. That is the figure.
In other words, for the purpose of computation of retired pay in-
creases-as you know, of course it has to be cumulative, 3 percent or
more, and I think we start computing from January 1 to each suc-
ceeding January. And you are at 1.2 percent level now.
Secretary PAUL. Yes, sir. And that is for a period of roughly a
year, a little more than a year.
Mr. WILSON. I would like to have a clarification on your reference
to the cost of living with regard to enlisted pay in your statement.
Why did you refer to it at all? Is this proposed legislation that
you are going to introduce next year?
Secretary PAUL. No, sir. I was just describing the formula that we
had applied in developing our own proposals to the Congress. And the
reason why I referred to that one as the cost-of-living increase is be-
cause that one and that one alone is based on the Consumer Price
Index, which is a cost-of-living calculation, and that is the same index
upon which the adjustment in retired pay is to be based.
Mr. WILSON. And your cost of living is over a greater period of
years, then, because there have been no increases since 1952 in that
category, as I understand it.
Secretary PAUL. Well, there has been a 1.2-percent change, and
I think that is about standard in the way of a raise, over a period of
about 12 months.
Mr. BLANDFORD. Well, you didn't quite understand I think Mr.
Wilson's question, because your answer will have to be different.
The cost of living obviously has gone up considerably more than
1.2 percent since 1952. -
Secretary PAUL. Oh, yes.
Mr. BLANDFORD. The Department used as a basis the decision of
the Congress that as of October 1, 1963, the pay of the enlisted roan
with under 2 years of service was exactly the base point where it
should be, and therefore whenever the cost of living after October 1,
1963., goes to two points or more, then the Department will recom-
mend a cost-of-living increase for enlisted personnel with under 2
years of service.
Isn't that correct?
Secretary PAUL. That is right.
Mr. WILSON. But you don't anticipate any legislation in the future
that would make, it an automatic increase based on the 2-percent
raise in the cost of living?
Secretary PAUL. No, sir. We don't think that mandatory legisla-
tion-no, sir, we are not proposing that.
Mr. WILSON. Now, Mr. Chairman, just let me say this.
I came to this meeting intending to oppose this legislation, because
I think, while it is intended to be a pat on the back, it is practically a
slap in the face to the military, because it is inadequate.
I hope-by granting a minor increase this year, I hope we don't
forgo next year the prospect of giving a logical increase or a needed
increase next year.
I think this is entirely inadequate. I think the military is far
behind the increases that have been granted civil servants, and I just
want to go on record as saying, that I am reluctantly supporting you
in this position.
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Mr. RIVEits. That is the reason I made my statenient., in hopes that
-I could dispel nut- feeling ill 1n% colleagues' minds that I was going to
1.;Ike this thing lying down. And I am glad to hear lit
that. colleague say
.
Mr. LANG. Mr. ('Inlirniall.
Mr. RIVEIts. Wait list, It minute.
have you finished, Mr. Wilson?
Alr. WILSON. Yes.
NI r. RIVERS. YeS.
Mr. LONG. I just Weuited to ask, Mr. Chairntan
Mr. RIVERS. Vt l;o was asking'.'
Mr. LONG. It . was I.
I wanted to ask if the military have fallen behind, as they have
during it number of years, and what lilts been the reason for it? Has
it been the fault of this commit tee does it lie in the Budget Bureau
or who has been initiating or failing to initiate adequate pay increases
for the utilittuy people over thr rears?
11r. RIVElls. 1ell, there are marry factors involved. I would
say -Mr. Blandford, check me out on this.
The Department was lax from the period-the last pay bill we had
was, What, 1956."
'hlr. BL.tNCFOan. 1955.
Mr. Itmvm.tcs. Before 1960.
Mr. BI.tXDFOan. We have had pay increases actually in 1949,
1952-since this committee has been established.
.1r. R1VEas. 1949. 1952---- -
Mr. l3LAyDFoan. 1949. 1952, 1955. and 1958.
.Nil-. Rtvt:us. 1958 was the last one---1958 was the last one, before
1963.
yotw, I don't-of course, Mr. Paul was not here. But, the Depart-
ment had beat slow getting it up, ;;nd the Congress tins been equally
slow doing something about it.
,\Ir. Lott. By [he Congress, do you mean this committee or do
you mean the ('ongress as it whole,
:41r. 11tvl;tts. I mean the ('onlgress. This committee has always
been alert.
Mr. BLANnFOItn. I think, 1Ir. Chairman, one of the things you
have to keep in mind in this is that- when you are dealing with military
pity, whicl' is about $12 billion-- pay and allowances now constitute
about $12 billion of the defense budget -just a tiny increase in the
pay, for example, of the under-two man runs into a very substantial
amount of money.
And I can recall pay bills I think the pay bill in 1949 can $400
million, and (lie pay bill in 1952 ran close to $500 million. 'I'lten in
1955 it ran between $700 turd SSOO million.
But. you are dealing with such large sutras that the Congress, not
by inertin but because of the tremendous amount involved. -tornially
waits for the administration to make the recommendation, because
of tite large amounts involved.
Every pay increase for tit,, military involves it very substantial
sum of money. Ibis IS the smallest, if I ant not rnisl;dten, pit ,% increase
proposal that hits ever been submitted to the ('on!_ress, isn't that
correct. since 19 1 think since 1922.
Secretary PAUL. I`cs; and also the quick;'st or;e to be -mbi nitted
after the last previous one.
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Mr. BLANDFORD. Yes.
Secretary PAUL. If I may add that.
Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Chairman.
Mr. RIVERS. Yes
Mr. Blandford, have you finished?
Mr. BLANDFORD. When the members are finished, Mr. Chairman,
I have several technical questions to develop.
Mr. RivERs. Mr. Stratton.
Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Chairman, I would just like to ask with regard
to this matter of providing no pay increase for those with less than 2
years' service. It wasn't very long ago, Mr. Secretary, that we were
disturbed with reports that appeared in the press and that were dis-
cussed I think on the floor, either in the House or the other body, and
considerable agitation from Members of Congress in both bodies, with
regard to poverty in the Air Force and presumably by extension to
some of the other services.
Why do you continue to insist on no pay increase for those with 2
years of service in view of these statistics that were presented, pre-
sumably with the blessing of the Air Force, I think in the Air Force
Times and possibly in other publications?
I have never seen, Mr. Secretary, any statement by the Defense
Department on those figures.
Individual Members were contacted by the press and asked to
comment whether we were in favor of poverty in the armed services
while we were trying to eliminate it elsewhere. And my only reaction
was that we were aware of the fact that those who were serving under
2 years were probably not being adequately compensated, that we
had removed an increase for them in the last pay bill largely in an
effort to bring the total below or down it little closer to the budget
figure. And it was my impression that we all agreed that they ought
to be increased in their compensation and that the Department rec-
ognized that.
Now here we are in a position where officers with under 2 years are
being given increases as you point out-what is it, 8 percent?
Mr. RIVERS. 8.5.
Mr. STRATTON. 8.5 percent. And yet neither you nor the Senate
committee apparently, in spite of all the agitation a couple of months
ago about being concerned about poverty in the Air Force, has even
considered this point.
I would like to know, M:r. Secretary, two questions. First of all,
I would like to have you answer this specific question for me, and
second-because you seem to have agreed in your statement that en-
listed men with under 2 years' service shouldn't have a pay increase
because you say they come in 4 to 7 years younger than the officers
and most of them aren't married, and yet wo are given these statistics
about 7,000 of them who are on relief or could be on relief.
Second, I would liko to know what the position of the Department
is for the first time officially with regard to those stories that appeared
in the Air Force Times and elsewhere.
Secretary PAUL. Well, the story that appeared in the Air Force
Times-I read that analysis for the first time in the Air Force Times.
We have responded to as far as I know every congressional inquiry we
have had on the subject of this article.
I think-first of all, it is a statistical exercise. We have since that
time analyzed it.
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I think it is to some degree Ili' 1v~idirlg. General Berg, wlo accom-
panied Inc this morning, is the. leading expert in our office on this
general subject and has given a good deal of time to all analysis of this.
And we can furnish you with an analysis of the fir Force article,
either in writing or orally, as you prefer.
.Nit-. RIYLtta. What about Your statement on the 12th?
Secretary Sir?
- Ir. HivElns. Willtt about the statement you made ----excuse me,
fir. Stratton.
The stateltlent von made on the 12th of Jutte regarding the 5,000
Air Force men which fell below the nliuirtluIli established by the
President on poverty'' I think r Intl is what Mr. Stratton is referring to.
Secretturv P.m,. 1. don't recall that precise statement.
Mr. STRATTON. I wasn't aware that they had made any official
statement, Mr. Chairman. -Maybe they responded to 1.lenlbers of
Congress. But I think it is important( we ought to get into the record
what the position of the Department is.
Mr. l(ivElts. I think so.
Secretary PAUL. I would be very happ to put it in the record here.
11r. Bi,ANuFUI)c. I have some information, -Mr. Chairman, that
might be helpful lit this matter.
-M r. STlccrrOY. Mr. ('hairmati, can't we get the Secretary io give us
his answer?
-1r. ItivEElts. I. wau)L--right ]let-(-, this article, let. Air. Slatinshek
read it- --
Mr. STit.&'rrox. I am it little disft.rbed. I am in favor of this legis-
lation. Mr. Chairman, and I support your feeling. I don't, want to
hold this tip.
1 do think that in view of the public flaps that were created by these
statistics, whether they are fallacious or whether they are true, we
ought at least to make It statement as to why, once again, in spite of
these statistics, we are refusing to increase the pay of enlisted men with
less titan 2 years of service.
Secretary PAUL. The statement that -Ir. Slatinshek has, which
came from rile, is our official position on it., -lr. Stratton.
Mr. CHAIRMAN- -----
11r. ltivLus. Let him read it.
\Ir. Sr..AT1:+;SIILK. This is an interoffice 1iicnii0 from General Berg
10 Secretary Paul iii respect to tais particular problem, and it is
entitled "Au' Force Pockets of Poverty." The memo reads as follows:
The Uepartmunt of the Air Force made a recent rows release whi -It inferred
that some of its uttinbers full below the poverty line estab;ishid by the Prc.:idcnt
in his "w:tr on Poverty.'- 5pecific?allt', it teas indicated that sonar 5,000 Air
Farce members male less than tluv prescribed amounts for their size funnily; i.e.,
53,000 for a faunilc? of 1, 52,500 for a fa iniiy of :3, 52,000 for a fainil"' of 2, and
51.500 for a single pt?rsoa. The followi?tg comments regarding this portion of
the aanoutret?moat are olf-?red.
(.ti The 5.000 members estimated were all iiirrn ii secon-I class (13 :3) or uirtucn
third class (13 2) with Its than 21 corns' service. Tlcis nuntbt?r was arrived at on a
slnlistical basis of flit- nurthber of people in t.ht?se gran t?s