AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. ZABLOCKI TO THE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE OFFERED BY MRS HANSEN OF WASHINGTON

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CENTRAL IINTCLUGGENCE AG ?NCY
Office of Legislative Counsel
Washin ton D. C. 20505
Telephone:
Mr. Thomas Korologos
White House
Tom:
Itells me that no one there knew
of the agreement reached by Bill Colby and
Secretary Kissinger with the leadership of the
Armed Services and Foreign Affairs Committees
until I mentioned it at the LIG meeting. Attached
.is an extract from the Co ressional Record
of 8 October in which this was mentioned and it
was also reported in the press.
ue)orge
Legislative Counsel
FORM 533 OBSOLETE
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at long last it is pretty well established jurisdiction of the Committee on Foreign Affairs with the leadership of the House
now. .Affairs, and of other appropriate l:,:ouso cona.-
Mr. Chairman, I hope very much this The purpose of the amendment is to._.mittees, to Improve the committee :s ac-
amendment will be acted on favorably. provide the Committee on Foreign Af- cess to intelligence information.
Mr. TIEEDS, Mr. Chairman, will the fairs with the special ovcrsit;llt function The public announcement of this
gentleman yield? of reviewing and studying on a continu- agreement was made by the distinguished
Air. CLEVELAND. I yield to the gentle-. ing basis-and I quote-"intelligence ac- chairman of the committee, Dr. MorccA,r,
mail from Washington. tivities relating to foreign policy". on October 1.
Mr. MELDS. Mr. Chairman, the ben- At this point, I wish to provide some in his announcement, Chairman Mon-
tleman's amendment simply incorpo- background in order to put this amend- CAN said, and I quote:
rates the language which the House meat in perspective. more is agreement that the Committee on
adopted on July 22, 1974, and which was The select committee recommenda- Foreign Affairs must havo access to lnfornia-
incluclcd in none of these resolutions, tions which are also pending before the our tion farout 1er overseas
and activities which affect eign the base resolution (H. Res. 988). House provide that the Committee on oturns with other coun Unified Stine covert
the House Foreign Affairs shall have :pedal over- activities.
was reported in March before
acted in July. So the amendment does sight functions with regard to-and i
exactly what the gentleman says, and quote-"foreign and military intelli- My amendment would' formalize this
we have no objection to it. genco." arrangement In the Hansen substitute by
The CHAIRMAN. The question is oil. )In its report the committee states that adding in two appropriate places the
the amendment offered by the gentle- it took this action because of the grow- words "foreign intelligence relating to
nian from New Hampshire (Mr. CLEVE- ing importance of economic and political foreign policy."
LAND) to the amendment in the nature information ill supplementing military Mr. Chairman, it is clear that the Coin-
of a substitute offered by the gentle- information a. a factor in foreign policy Inittec on Foreign Affairs cannot acle-
woman from Washington (Mrs.IIANSEN). and national security. quately fulfill its responsibilities unless it
reater access to information than it
ort makes a
r
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ep
las g
ee
The amendment to the amendment in The select comm
the nature of a substitute was agreed to. clear that this oversight responsibility currently has.
Ant.uimniaNT OFFERED DY MR. SADLOCIiI TO Dna, is not to nnterfore in any way with the First, foreign intelligence is an integral
AMrNUMeNT IN TFIE NATURE OF A SUDSTX- legislative jurisdiction over foreign and part of the foreign policy process. No
TUTE OFFERED DY MRS. IIANSEN OF WASIIING- military intelligence which currently is foreign policy can succeed unless it is
TON within the purview of the 'armed Serv- based on timely and accurate informa-
Mr. ZABLOCKI, Mr. Chairman, I offer ties Committee, Lion. The task of intelligence is to gro-
an amendment to the amendment in the It points out, however, that the ar vide that information.
nature of a substitute. rangeinent is a mirror Image of the over- To assess foreign policy without ac-
-0 .,.?..,,. ,....,4-,,.,1 -A ,ii ,??~a?ien1. ....oo +n fi,( infni' mntinn on which it is
Mr, Chairman, may a propvullu u inittee, leaving exclusive legislative ail-
Parliamentary inquiry before the read-' tllority in that field to the Committee
ing of the amendment? - ' on Foreign Affairs.
The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will,.'
Unfortunately, the Hansen substitute
state his parliamentary inquiry,
Me, ZADLOCKI. Mr. Chairman, I have' as it now stands eliminates that mirror
image.
an identical amendment which I wish. Under the Hansen proposal the Armed
to offer to each of the resolutions, House Services Committee would be given spe-
Resolution 1248 and House Resolution dial oversight responsibilities in the field
1321? of arms control and disarinameilt, but
it is my understanding that as a result the Committee on Foreign Affairs would.
of the action yesterday, with the Rini- be denied similar jurisdiction over in-
tntion of 5 hours of debate, an identical teliinence activities,
amendment would be in order to be con- My amendment would remedy that
sidcred to both of the substitute amend- serious omission in the Hansen sub-
ments pending before the committee. stitutc.
The CHAIR.-MAN. The Chair will in- It should. be noted, however, that the
form the gentleman that the gentleman's language which I am proposing is some-
anlencment would not be in order at this , what more carefully defined than the
time to the Martin substitute because phrasing in the select committee pro-
there is an amendment already pending posal.
to the substitute. That proposal speaks of oversight jur-.
Mr. ZABLOCKI, Then, Mr. Chairman, indiction of "foreign and military in-
I wish to offer the amendment which is telligence." My amendment would add
at the Chairman's desk to House Rose- the words "intelligence activities relating
lotion 1248, the anlenciment in the na- to foreign policy."
tune of a substitute offered by the gentle- There are two reasons fog- this change
woman from Washington (Mrs. HANSEN).. in terminology:
The CIAIRMAN. The Clerk will re- First, because the oversight function is
port the amendment. limited to those intelligence activities
The Clerk read as follows: related to foreign pr,?icy it :.s made clear
Amendment offered by Mr, ZAIILOClir to the that the committee's jurisdiction does
amcn(imcnt in the nature of substitute of- not include some aspects of intelligence
fete ft by Mrs. IRAN SEN Of washing-ton: rage 5,
line 6, after "acbninistration," insert the fol- activities or information-for example,
lowing: "Intelligence activities relating to general capabilities of foreign weapon
foreign policy,", systems or force structures of potential
Fni:o 03, line 10, after "administration," adversaries.
insert the following: "Intelligence activities instead, the intelligen-le activities
relating to foreign policy,".
covered by the amendineni are defined
(Mr. ZA13LOCNI asked and was given
permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. ZAI3LOCXI. Mr. Chairman, my
amencinient amends both section 101
11 ",ir v ii? "'login.
tion of a house without cilcc,cIng tile
foundation.
Second, the task of gathering Intelli-
gence, or of conducting intelligence ac
tivities abroad, can sometimes be an !ill-'
portant foreign policy factor in and of
itself. All of us are aware of international '
incidents which have resulted from, past
U.S. Intelligence operations. Let me name
just a few of them:
United States support of unsuccessful
rebels soured relations with Indonesia in
1058.
The shooting down of the U-2 spy
plane in 1960 caused the failure of the
U.S.-U.S.S.R. summit conference of that
year.
The failure of the CIA-supported in-
vasion of Cuba in 1962 resulted in seri-.
ous problems for - the United States in
the hemisphere. -
A forged letter sent to toll Thai officials
by a CIA agent last year led to anti-
Americanism and demands for U.S. mili-
tary withdrawal.
A third reason for giving this respon-
sibility to the House Committee on For-
eign Affairs is that agreement among na-
tio>,as for the exchange of information or
intelligence is an important category of
relationships which two or more nations,
can carry on. Such exchanges can have
great significance for the foreign rela-
tions of the countries involved.
The Committee on foreign Affairs
cannot do a fully adequate and effective
job of meeting its foreign affairs respoil-
sibilities without having some jurisdic-
tion in the area of intelligence relating
as those related to foreign policy, which to foreign policy.
is a clear area of jurisdiction for the I, therefore, urge my colleagues to sup-.
Committee on Foreign Affairs, . port this anlenciment.
Second, the words which i propose Mrs. HANSEN of Washington. Mr.
acihclo closely to the irudeistaaldilag Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
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S. 4004, providing for the continuation of the Federal
Saving; and Loan Advisory Council;
S. 3or3, to revise and restate certain functions and
duties of the Comptroller General of the United States;
and
S. 704, to restore the independence of certain regu-
- encies of the Federal Government.
ENERGY CONSERVATION
Cymmittee on. Commerce: Committee resumed hear-
i.n$s on proposals relative to energy conservation, recei
ing testimony on auto fuel economy and industrial
eiticiency from Alan G. Loofbourrow, accompanied by
Vic I tor C. Tomlinson, and Harold L. Welch, all of.
Chrysler Corp., Detroit; Fred Secrest, accompanied b f
L.' Misch, both of Ford Motor (co., Dearborn;
Herbert
,
and Henry L. Duncombe, Jr., accompanied by Ernv t
i
D
t.
etro
Starkman, both of General motors Corp.,
:Hearings continue tomorrow.
GENEVA PROTOCOL AND BIOLOGICAL
WARFARE CONVENT1OlV
Committee on Foreign Relations: Committee conclu4l
War of Asphyxiating, Poisonous or Other Gases (Ex ,
gtst Cong., 2-d Bess.); Convention on the Prohibition- ,f
teriologicaly (Biological) and Toxin Weapons, and n
Their Destruction (Ex. Q, 92d Cong., 2d sess.) ; d
S. Res. 48, calling for the ratification of th.e Gen a.
Prgtocol, of , 1925, without restrictive understanding or
reservations. Testimony was received from Dr. Fred C.
]idle, Director, Arms Control and Disarmament
Agency, Department-of State; Clement J. Zablocki,
Committee on Foreign Affairs; Dr. Charles C. Price,
Professor of Chemistry, University of Pennsylvania,
Philadelphia; and Richard R. Baxter, representing the
American Society of International Law.
COMMITTEE BUSINESS
Committee on Government Operations: On'Monday,
December 9, committee, in executive session, ordered
favorably reported the following bills:
H.R. ,1355 donating certain surplus railroad equip-
rnent.torthe Hawaii chapter of the National Railway
His Society, Inc.;
RR- 7072, to allow the Federal Government to make
advance subscription payments for audio-visual as well
as printed materials;
R. 895$, authorizing the General Services Adrn nis
tration to transfer to the Department of the Interior
certain property situated within Indian reservations to
be held intrust for the benefit of the Indian tribes
pccupying the reservations;
H R. r5 redesignatin g the National lr-iistor;cal
Publcattons Commission as the National Historical
Publications and' Records Commission, and proposing
_an increase; in the membership and authorization of
ZC3.., 16424, to establish a Commission on Fed,.ral
'aperwork;,
) LE..14718, proposing discontinuation or modification
of certain reports submitted to Congress by the executive
branch (amended)
INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES
Committee on Government Operations: Subcommittee
on Intergovernmental Relations concluded hearings on
proposals to strengthen congressional oversight of the
Nation's intelligence agencies (S. 1547, 2738, 4019, and
S. Res. 419), after receiving testimony from Senator
Weicker;. Dr. Ray S. Cline, Center for Strategic and
lntetuational Studies, Georgetown University, Wash-
ington, D.C.; Dr. Harold P. Ford, Institute for the Study
of Ethics and International Affairs, Washington, D.C.;
and Prof. Harry Howe Ransom, Vanderbilt University,
Nashville, Tenn.
FEDERAL LANDS
Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs: Committee
held oversight hearings on the status of Federal lands in
Alaska, receiving testimony from Royston C. Hughes,
Assistant Secretary for Program, Management and
Budget, Department of the Interior.
Hearings were recessed subject to call.
NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS
Committee on Labor and Public Welfare: Subcom-
mittee on Education held hearings on S. 503, to protect
the concept of neighborhood schools and to provide
financial assistance to local educational agencies in each
State, receiving testimony from Senator Chiles; Wood-
row H. Darden, Division of Elementary and Secondary
Education, Florida Department of Education, Talla-
hassee; Dr. Gene M. Pillot, Superintendent of Schools,
Sarasota County, Fla.; Jerald Strickland, Booker-Bay
Haven School, Sarasota; and John Henry Rivers, Sara-
sota Chapter-NAACP.
Hearings were recessed subject to call.
COMMITTEE BUSINESS
Committee on Public Works: Committee, in executive
session, ordered favorably reported the following busi-
ness :items:
S. ;38o7, naming the Federal building in Brunswick,
Ga., the Frank M. Scarlett Federal Building;
S. 4006, naming the Federal office building in Chicago,
the Paul Douglas Federal Building;
S.J., Res. 212, authorizing the erection in the Wash-
ington, D.C., area of a children's gift bell memorial
tower (amended) ; and
Public building prospectuses as follows:
(a) Construction of Beltsville, Md., Law Enforce-
ment Training Center and Federal Office Building,
Norfolk, Va.;
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enforce title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Art and title IX
of the Education Amendments of x972; and
Peg. S 20969
(2) Scott of Pennsylvania-Mansfield amendment
designed to assure that HEW retains its present
authori tyto enforce these acts. P.g. 5 20968
The yeas and nays have been ordered on both of
U 1343
R ckefeller, of New York, to be Vice President of the
United States. Ppes $ 20975-S 20993, 5 21024
Conant Nomination: By unanimous consent, it was
agreed that at the conclusion of morning business on
Saturday, December r4 Senate will take up the nomi-
nation of Melvin A. Conant, of New York, to be an
Assistant Administrator of the Federr.l Energy Adminis-
tration, with time for debate thereon to be limited to
I hour. Page S 21023
Record Vote: One record vote was taken today.
(I oral- 98.) Page 5 20993
Program for Wednesday: Senate met at 9:45 a.m. and
adjourned at 5:58 ,p.m. until 9 a.m. on Wednesday,
December ii, when it will resume consideration of
S. 1985, fisheries jurisdiction (i hour time limitation-
no record votes to be taken in connection therewith
prior to 3:30 p.m.) At the conclusion cf debate of S. 1988,
Senate will resume consideration of H.R. 14449, eco-
noniic opportunity programs (r hour time limitation-
vote on question of final,; passage to occur at ro:3o a.m.
on Friday, December 1 At not later than 1:30 p.m.,
Senate will resume (under time limitation agreement)
consideration of amendments to House amendment to
Senate amendment No. 17 to H.R. 169oo, supplemental
appropriations, and will ; proceed to consider and vote
on several amendments and motions in connection
therewit1i. Pages S 21022-S 21024
Senate reached unanimous consent agiceincnt con-
cerning further consideration and disposition tomorrow
of these and other amendments and motions in connec-
tion with this matter. Pag. S 21M
Fags $20965-420975, $20"9-$21000
Fisheries Jurisdiction: Senate considered S. 1988, to
extend on an interim basis the jurisdiction of the United
States over certain ocean areas and fish in order to pro-
tect the domestic fishing industry, and by unanimous
consent agreement, will resume its consideration at the
conclusion of morning business tomorrow, with time
for debate thereon to be limited to i hour, with i hour
on amendments, and 3o minutes on amendments in the
second degree. Pag.s S20955.-520949, S2102-2
Economic Opportunity Programs: Senate resumed
consideration of H.R. 14449, to establish a Community
Action Administration in the Department of HEW,
and by unanimous consent agreement, will resume its
consideration tomorrow, with time limitation for debate
thereon of 1 hour, with 3n minutes on amendments.
Senate vitiated. its order of Thursday, I.)ccember 5,
calling for vote on Wednesday, D~-ccinber r., on motion
to close further debate on this bill.
Peg., $ 20965, $ 21022. S21023
Energy Emergency Authorit}: Senate ccoiusidered
S. 3267, providing standby emergency authority to
assure that the essential energy needs of the United
States arc met. Pegg S 21000 -5 21008, S 21010-S 21022
Veterans' Benefits: Senate agreed to the Ht ruse amend-
ment to S. 4040, to increase pension rates and annual
income limitations for eligible veterans atidl their sur-
vivors, thus clearing the measure for the White House.
Pegs S 20995-5 20998
Senate Authorizations: Several coiniiiittc~ s and sub-
committees were authorized to iricet tcuuoriucv and
later in the week during sessions of the Semite.
Also, during the adjournment of the fie n:tc until
Wednesday, December ir, the Secretary of 1.1i,_ Senate
is authorized to receive messages from tltc I louse of
Representatives, and the Preside:,t pro tc. ,,};,rc and
Acting President pro tempore are tutho n, cd to sign
duly enrolled bills and joint resolutions.
Pops s 21010. S 21023
Legislative Program: Leadcrliip disco s~.cl Senate's
legislative program ahead. ng4, 5 21023
Confirmation: By 90 yeas to 7 1:a}:>, and mi voting
present, Senate confirmed the nomination of N~'lson A.
Committee Meetings
(Committees not listed did nt,1 meet)
FOOD AND FOREIGN AID
Committee on Agriculture and Forestry: Subcommit-
tees on Agricultural Production, Marketing, and
Stabilization of Prices, and Foreign Agricultural Policy
began joint hearings on U.S. food supplies and foreign
corrunercial and food aid demands, receiving testimony
your Senators McGovern; and Clark; Hurd D. Willett,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge;
William C. Henning, ]Livestock Business Advisory
Sir%iccs, Inc., Kansas City, Mo.; Charles L. Fraser, Na-
tiunal Farmers Organizatitin, Washington, D.C.; Robert
G. I.ewis, National Farmers Union, Washington, D.C.;
Rus?tell Arndt, National Corn Growers Association,
IA'adiiril ton, D.C.; Ray Davis, National Wheat Growers
Asso iation, Washington, ID.C.; and Ralph P. Jackson,
American Soybean Association, Hudson, Iowa.
Hearings continue on Thursday, December ra.
COI TMI1 I`EE BUSINESS
('. 'niztee on the Budget. Coniniittce resumed execu-
1'c consideration of natters concerning staff appoint-
nix_ n c,, but nude do annou>rcementsand recessed subject
to caii.
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