JOURNAL OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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• Collection: General CIA Records
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• Original Classification: C
• Document Page Count: 8
• Document Creation Date: December 19, 2016
• Document Release Date: October 17, 2006
• Sequence Number: 5
• Publication Date: March 27, 1978
• Content Type: NOTES

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OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Monday - Z7 March 1978
1. (Unclassified - ME) FOIA/LIAISON Received a call from
Stuart Applebaum, in the office of Representative Robert Kastenmeier
(D. , Wis. ), concerning a constituent request. The request was from
Mr. William Utter, ex-Managing Editor of the Daily Cardinal student
newspaper at the University of Wisconsin involving "any and all" documents
in existence pertaining to the Agency's relationship with the University.
After checking with IPS, Mr. Ed Katulski, I called Mr. Applebaum and
said that it would be another month or two because of the lack of
specificity of the request and at least 23 components were searching
for documents responsive to Mr. Utter's request. I also explained
the backlog of cases within the Agency, which Mr. Applebaum said
he understood.
2. (Unclassified - MDC) LIAISON Called David Pickens, on the
staff of the House Select Committee on Narcotics Abuse and Control,
and we agreed on 3 April 1978 as a preferred date for delivery of the
responses to the Committee's follow-up questions from the 13 March 1978
briefing. It was also agreed that we would set 5 April 1978 as a backup
date.
3. (Unclassified - DFM) LIAISON Received a call from Jean Christoff,
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence staff, who asked me if we could
provide her information on the narcotics case
She said Hal Ford, Senator Adlai Stevenson's (D., Ill. )
designee on the Committee, had asked her to look into this for Senator
Stevenson. I told her Mark Gitenstein, also of the Committee staff, had
looked into this case in detail for Senator Joseph Biden (D. , Del.) and
suggested she contact Mark and she agreed.
4. (Unclassified - HMS) EMPLOYMENT REQUEST Received a
call from Adele, in the office of Representative John H. Buchanan (R., Ala.),
requesting applications for employment, both professional and clerical.
I told her they would be sent to her. OLC Registry was advised.
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5. LIAISON Julie Romero, Secretary
within the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, called
asking for a listing of all Directors of Central Intelligence Agency
and their dates of office. I obtained a copy of the listing from the
Office of Public Affairs and read it to her.
____]Acting Legislative Counsel, I called John Roberts, General Counsel
for the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Intelligence chaired by
Senator Harry Byrd (D. , Va. ). I told Mr. Roberts that ad
discussed the Subcommittee' ding hearings an o ered my
services (along with those of NFAC/CSS) subsequent to
the Committee's biweekly brie ling we wou a attending the following
morning. Mr. Roberts agreed to meet us sometime prior to noon on
28 March and clearly appreciated the call.
7. I I LIAISON Mike O'Neil, Chief Counsel,
House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, called with two
questions: (a) are we currently engaged in re-drafting the Agency entry-on-
duty secrecy agreement. After checking with C /Office of
Security, I told him that we were not, that the secrecy nt had
withstood at least one court case and that it was considered adequate, and
(b) what is the DCI position on budget disclosure? Mike had received a new
version from an unnamed source and wanted to be sure about it. After
checking with f our office, I told Mike that the DCI's position,
simply stated,_ is e xecutive will not object if Congress determines
that it is in the national interest to publish one overall figure for the
Intelligence Community, but would draw the line there: e. g., the Executive
would object to providing the individual budget figure for any of the
individual Intelligence Community member agencies.
8 LIAISON Sent by courier to Richard Giza,
House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence staff, a four page paper
explaining the CRAFT and COMET systems.
9.1 IAISON Sent by courier to Pauline Baker,
Senate Foreign Relations Committee staff, copies of charts used during the
10 February 1978 hearing on Foreign Military Presence in Africa.
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10. (Unclassified - SF) LIAISON Sent by courier to Thomas K.
Latimer, Staff Director, House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence, a follow-up letter to Mr. Latimer's letter dated 8 March
requesting five publications and studies (SC,04058-78).
11. (Unclassified - RSG) LAISION Dan Hardway, House Select
Committee on Assassinations staff, visited C&R conference room to
interview a current employee.
12. (Unclassified - RSG) LIAISON Took a call from Betsy Palmer,
House Select Committee on Assassinations researcher, who requested
availability of certain files. I advised her that material was available
for review.
13. (Internal Use Only - THW) LIAISON I called Hans Binnendijk,
on the staff of the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Foreign Assistance,
in response to his request for information o nuclear capabilities, 25X1
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but we have no responsibility for collecting information on U. S. corporate
activities.
I also asked him if he could provide us a copy of his report on
the Middle East air balance since we had had some role in giving him
background information for the report. He said that the report had been
distributed and that Brian Atwood, State Department, should be giving us
a copy for our comments. He said, however, that if we could not get a
copy from Atwood he would give us one.
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15.1 LIAISON I accompaniedi
ORPA, to a briefing of Jim Washburn and Ron Tammen, on the staff o
Senator William Proxmire (D., Wis.), on the subject of what will happen
when the Shah of Iran passes from the scene. There were no follow-ups,
however, did mention a paper which he was doing on this subject
and it can be expected that we will receive a request from the Senator's
office for the paper.
16.1 CONSTITUENT Mrs. Marguerite Noll,
on the staff of Representative Fred B. Rooney (D., Pa.), called saying
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1 LIAISON Hans Binnendijk, on the staff of
the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Foreign Assistance, called and
said that he had heard about the Agency's paper on the Middle East air balance
and asked on behalf of the Committee if we could forward a copy to the
Committee for review by himself, the Chief of Staff, and Members of the
Committee who had an interest. I told him I would look into it and get back
to him.
181 LIAISON Called Mike Epstein, Senate
Select Committee on Intelligence staff, and discussed the status of our 25x1
letter concernin Iwhich had been disseminated
by CIA but cannot De oca e y e recipients n is a pending matter of
interest to Senator Lowell Weicker (R., Conn.).
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19.1 1 LIAISON Spoke with Ira Goldman,
on the staff of Representative Robert McClory (R., Ill.), and told him
that if Mr. McClory wanted us to deal with him on charter matters, as
has been suggested, we would make every effort to be responsive to
his needs.
LIAISON Spoke withi DIA,
an , concerning coordination and information-al
exc ange on Congressional matters.
21. LIAISON Called John Nields, on the
staff of the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct, and he
told me that the paper he had been discussing with our office over the
past several says had been provided by the Attorney General in connection
with a case that had been referred to the Committee. He felt the
additional information he was seeking should be supplied to him and that
he believes he already has it from another source.
22. LIAISON Brian Atwood, Congressional
Relations, Department of State, called to set up a briefing on the Middle
East nce for the State task force. This was turned over to
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was no need for a briefing at this point.
23. LIAISON John Roberts, General Counsel,
Senate Armed Services ommi?tee, on a referral from Frank Sullivan,
Staff Director of the Committee, called on behalf of Senator Harry Byrd
(I., Va.), Chairman, Intelligence Operations Subcommittee, Senate
Armed Services Committee, in connection with a proposed hearing in the
next couple of weeks on Cuban, USSR activities in the Middle East and
Africa. I told Roberts that I thought it would be helpful if we had an
early reliminary exchange on this matter and arrangements were made for
FAC/CSS, an to see Roberts.
24. LIAISON Called Michael Glennon, Legal
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to tell him that some of his notes had already been sent to him and that the
rest were on their way.
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25. (Unclassified - RJK) ADMINISTRATIVE - DELIVERIES
Delivered to Barbara Allem, on the staff of the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee, two transcripts; one dated 10 February 1978 for the
Subcommittee on African Affairs, and one dated 23 February 1978 for the
full committee on the subject of SALT verification. Ms. Allem said she
would notify Pauline Baker and Bill Ashworth respectively, the staff
members concerned with each transcript.
26. (Unclassified - RJK) ADMINISTRATIVE - DELIVERIES
Delivered to Chris Cowart, on the staff of the Senate Armed Services
Committee, the morning and afternoon transcripts of the Agency briefing
of the Committee held on 27 January 1978. I had alerted Jack Ticer, Chief
Clerk, that I would be dropping them by.
27. (Unclassified - RJK) ADMINISTRATIVE - DELIVERIES In
response to his request, left two Agency publications entitled: "LDC
Positions on Debt Relief Issues" and "The Non-OPEC Less Developed
Countries Estimated Debt Position and Prospects" for Joel Johnson, on
the staff of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, with the receptionist
at 4229 Dirksen Senate Office Building.
28. (Unclassified - RJK) ADMINISTRATIVE - DELIVERIES In the
absence of Ellen Miller, Senate Governmental Affairs staff, left with the
Documents Clerk the Agency publication requested by Chairman Abraham
Ribicoff (D., Conn.) entitled "International Terrorism Problem of Patron
State Support. " I pointed out to the Documents Clerk that the publication
was classified Secret and she said the Committee would give it the
appropriate safeguards.
29. (Unclassified - RJK) LIAISON Met with Rita Argenta, on the
staff of the House Armed Services Committee, and received from her
excerpts from last year's DoD military posture hearings citing figures on
anti-tank weapons. This is a follow-up to a question raised by Representative
Floyd Spence (R., So. Car.) when the Director briefed the Committee
on 26 January 1978. Apparently the Committee staff believes there is an
inconsistency between Admiral Turner's testimony and the figures cited
in DoD's military posture statement. NFAC/CSS, has been 25X1
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30. (Unclassified - ELS) LIAISON I called Chuck Snodgrass, on
the staff of the House Appropriations Committee, about the Surveys
and Investigations team questions on the DDO report. He indicated that
he would like the responses by 7 April. He also said that while no
formal transmittal is necessary, we should treat these questions and
answers as something to be made part of the record, and the DCI and
DDCI should be prepared to discuss these matters.
31. (Unclassified - RLB) LEGISLATION Spoke with Bob Carlstrom,
OMB, and informed him that the letter from Jack Blake, DDA, to
Representative Bill Burlison (D., Mo.) concerning the Freedom of
Information Act would be going forward, but that, in light of OMB's
concerns regarding suggested legislative proposals, we had changed
the language of the letter so that the portion containing such suggestions
was couched in terms of questions for the Congress to consider rather
than specific statutory proposals. Mr. Carlstrom said this sounded fine
and that he would appreciate receiving a copy of the letter. On the matter
of our proposed legislation to clarify the Agency's firearms authority,
Mr. Carlstrom said his office was in the final stages of reviewing and
approving the package, but would appreciate receiving a copy of the letter
dated 20 December 1977 which we had sent to the Department of Justice
regarding coordination of certain language changes in our proposal. I
sent Mr. Carlstrom copies of the letters on the Freedom of Information
Act and the firearms proposal.
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Monday - Z7 March 1978
1. (Internal Use Only - GMC) LIAISON Received a call this evening
at home from Mike Hershman, Deputy Staff Director, Subcommittee on
International Organizations, House International Relations Committee.
Hershman said that he had been contacted by the Wall Street Journal regarding
that paper's coverage of the Subcommittee's just-concluded public hearings.
Hershman said that the journal had apologized to him for its statement that
NSA was the source of information which the Subcommittee had indicated
came from various Executive Branch intelligence agencies. Hershman said
that the Journal wanted to know whether he thought a reaction and/or correction
was appropriate. I told Hershman that his position should be that he could
neither confirm nor deny the accuracy of the Journal's coverage, nor of that
of the Washington Post, which had attributed the information from unnamed
intelligence agencies to the CIA. I advised Hershman not to encourage the
Journal regarding the running of additional material on the question of where
the intelligence information disclosed at the hearings came from.
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