JOURNAL OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP80-00941A000500040020-5
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 8
• Document Creation Date: December 19, 2016
• Document Release Date: September 21, 2006
• Sequence Number: 20
• Publication Date: February 6, 1978
• Content Type: NOTES

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JOURNAL
Monday - 6 February 1978
1. (Unclassified - MLG) LIAISON request
forwarded to Judy Schneider and Bob Pender, of the Senate Select
Committee on Ethics staff, their sanitized notes which were taken on
2 February 1978.
2. (Unclassified - RJK) LIAISON Accompanied
OS, to the office of Michael Glennon, of the Senate Forei n Relations
Subcommittee on International Operations staff, where set 25X1
the combination on an approved safe for which Mr. Glennon is currently
the only one who knows the combination.
3. (Unclassified - MG) LIAISON Per his request, sent to Winston
Woodland, Central Reference Service, Library of Congress, a copy of
"Analytical Perspectives on Commodity Price Stabilization Proposals. "
4. (Unclassified - MG) EMPLOYMENT Received a call from
Mrs. Terry, in the office of Representative Robert S. Walker (R. , Pa. ),
who wanted to set up an employment interview at the Agency for a
constituent, After checking with WARD, 25X1
I called Mrs. Terry back and told her an interview was scheduled for
2:00 p.m. today. She thanked me for the assistance.
5. (Unclassified - MG) LIAISON Received a call from Harris Miller,
Legislative Director for Senator John A. Durkin (D., N. Y.), who requested
page-size and wall-size maps of the People's Republic of China, the Soviet
Union and Panama. After checking withi INFAC/CSS, I called 25X1
Mr. Miller back and told him that I would forward the maps to him.
6. (Internal Use Only - MMP) CONSTITUENT Called John Spear,
in the offic Re-presentative William Hughes (D., N. J. ), in regard to the
constituent
USG. Mr. Spear said that they had routinely owar e the e er o e
State Department and CIA and had no personal interest in the man and thanked
me for the courtesy of the phone call in addition to the letter, which I told
him was forthcoming.
7. (Unclassified - KJS) LIAISON Per his request, sent a copy of
the publication "The International Energy Situation: Outlook to 1985, " to
Marty Allman, in the office of Representative Willis D. Gradison (R., Ohio).
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Monday - 6 February 1978
8. I I LLM) LIAISON Called Ken McLean, Staff
Director, Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee, and
outlined what I thought we would include in the close out to Senator
William Proxmire's (D., Wis.) letter of 26 January. McLean felt
it would be satisfactory although we may eventually have to sanitize
some of the material.
9. (Unclassified - LLM) LIAISON In the absence of Bill Miller,
Staff Director, Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, talked with
Stan Taylor about facilitating the early Senate confirmation of Ambassador
Carlucci as DDCI. I also arranged to pick up personal papers provided
by Ambassador Carlucci to the Select Committee.
10. (Unclassified - LLM) LIAISON Accompanied 25X1
NFAC/CSS, to one of the regular current intelligence brie ings o
House Minority Leader John Rhodes (R., Ariz.).
25X1 11. - LLM) LIAISON In the company of
NFAC/CS , met with Jack Brady, Chief of Staff, House International
Relations Committee, on Chairman Clement Zablocki's (D., Wis.) letter 25X1
of 29 November to the DCI on the declassification of the study Comparison
of U. S. and Soviet Arms Sales to Less Developed Countries, 1974-76,
explaining that cranking in new methodology is delaying our work but we
hope to have a product responsive to their interests when they need it,
which is sometime in April when the arms sales legislation will be in
mark-up. Brady said there would be no need to see Chairman Zablocki
on this matter.
12. - LLM) LIAISON Met with Henry Myers, on
the staff of the House Interior and Insular Affairs Committee, and showed
him the written responses to the three questions he had raised in our
previous session concerning NUMEC. He added a fourth question. Myers
said that the information they have received from all quarters still leaves
serious gaps in what they need to know and that serious inconsistencies
are developing. Myers was complimentary of the degree of -,cooperation
and quality of information provided by Carl Duckett, former DDS&T. He
said he also had faith that we were as candid and cooperative as possible.
I told him I thought his expectations of our contribution were too high and
he must understand that we are not a law enforcement agency and do
not have a domestic investigative role in matters such as this and we
are in fact precluded from doing this by statute.
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Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel
Monday - 6 February 1978
13. (Unclassified - BAA) LIAISON Rachael Shugar, in the
office of Senator Herman Talmadge (D., Ga.), called requesting
general information on the Agency. I said I would send her some
brochures.
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Monday - 6 February 1978
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- PLC) LIAISON Called Mike Epstein, Senate Select
Committee on Intelligence staff, concerning the request of Mr. John Gavin,
Department of Justice General Counsel's Office, 25X1
Deputy General Counsel of the Agency, requesting access tot e Chapter
"Budgetary Oversight!" which was omitted by the Church Committee in Book I
of its report for security reasons. A copy of the report in OLC files
was reviewed by Jim Taylor, Comptroller, and he saw no objections to
providing it. According to Gavin is preparing aloes-level
study on the funding of proprietaries and wanted to review information on that
subject in the report. Epstein did not see any problem in granting acces25X1
but requested that Mr. Gavin make his request directly to the Senate
Select Committee on Intelligence. I iwas so advised and will inform
Gavin accordingly. I I earlier had given an indication that Gavin had
discussed this request with Bill Miller, Staff Director, Senate Select Committee
on Intelligence, and needed Agency clearances.
Talked later in the day with Epstein on another matter. I informed
him that the letter from to Bill Miller, Staff Director, Senate
Select Committee on Intelligence, was finalized and would be delivered 25X1
tomorrow morning by special courier.
16. (Unclassified - PLC) LIAISON Called Professor G. Robert
Blakey, Chief Counsel and Director, House Select Committee on Assassinations,
and expressed I Iconcern that it should be made clear that the infor-
mation derived by the Select Committee from the review of the Church
Committee transcripts will be covered by the Memorandum of Understanding
between the Select Committee and CIA. Blakey felt certain that this
information would be covered in the disclosure section of the Memorandum
of Understanding and will prepare a letter to the Agency concerning this
point. He did not believe-that a formal addendum to the present
Memorandum of Understanding was necessary. I said we would agree with
that when we see his letter.
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17. (Internal Use Only - THW) LIAISON Tom Smeeton,
House International Relations Committee staff, called stating that he
had been informed by George Cary that the Representative Edward J.
Derwinski (R. , Ill. ) matter was not the only reason for the stand down
on provision of material to the House International Relations Subcommittee
on International Organizations and asked if that information had been
conveyed to the Subcommittee staff. I said it had been. He said it
was an important point since Speaker of the House Thomas P. O'Neill
(D., Mass. ), House Minority Leader John J. Rhodes (R. , Ariz. ),
Chairman Clement J. Zablocki, House International Relations Committee,
and Attorney General Griffin Bell were meeting at 2:00 p. m. that day
to attempt to resolve the problem and that it was Mike Hershman's, on
the Subcommittee staff, position the only reason for the stand down in the
first place was the Derwinski matter.
18. (Internal Use Only - THW) LIAISON Pete Stockton, on the
staff of the House Interstate and Foreign Commerce Subcommittee on
Energy and Power, called and said that Frank Potter, Staff Director of
the Subcommittee, told him the NUMEC documents he wished to see were
ready for him to review at Agency Headquarters. I told him there were
27 documents and he asked what percentage this was of CIA documents.
I said 20 percent. He said it was his understanding following our last
meeting that we were going to provide all of CIA's documents on this
subject. I said this was not our understanding and that our agreement
was that they would first take a look at these 27 documents and we would
then discuss what more they might need.
19. (Unclassified - THW) LIAISON Marge Ross, in the Pleasant
Hill, California district office of Representative George Miller D. , Calif. ),
called with respect to a former Agency employee, She 25X1
said they were unable to locate him and wonder d i we knew w ere he
might have gone after he left C *A. I said I ou check on it.
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ADDENDUM TO JOURNAL
Monday - 6 February 1978
1. I I- RSG) LIAISON Kenneth Klein, House Select
Committee on Assassinations staff, visited C&R Staff to review the
ZDA I 2, I - DFM) LIAISON Mike Epstein, Senate Select
Committee on Intelligence staff. called to
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the House Select Committee on Assassinations had requested to review
his testimony before the Church Committee.
3.1 1- DFM) LIAISON Received a call from Tom Moore,
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence staff, who asked me questions
regarding the cables delivered on 3 February relating to the 25X1
Moore asked me for te
releasing and authorizing level of the cables, and about part of one of
the cables which had been deleted from the copy provided the Committee.
I told Moore that the DCI had approved the first two cables, had initialed
one of the other two and we were confident that he was well aware of the
fourth cable. The section deleted was merely administrative instructions.
4. (Unclassified - DFM) LIAISON Called Bernard Fortman,
printer, Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, to request an additional
page of the transcript of Mr. Frank Carlucci's confirmation hearing.
Fortman said he would send it as soon as possible. It had been
inadvertently left out of the copy previously provided us.
5. DFM) LIAISON Received a call from Dave Bushong,
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence staff, on the secure phone about
his investigation of narcotics trafficking by senior Panamanian government
officials. Bushong asked me to provide another copy of a cable previously
provided the Committee which could not be read in its entirety. He also
asked me for the references on this cable.
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Monday - 6 February 1978
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6. (Unclassified - DFM) LIAISON Received a call from Stan Taylor,
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence staff, who said he doubted the
Senate would confirm the Frank Carlucci nomination in time for the
swearing in ceremony to take place 8 February. He said the Republicans
were insisting that the three day minimum between reporting of a
nomination by a Committee and Senate floor action be respected in this
case. Taylor said the Republicans feel the rule is being routinely waived
when it should not be.
I reminded Taylor we had assembled some material for him on
the subject of nuclear submarine detection and he said he would be here
to review it next week.
7. I I- DFM) LIAISON Called Patrick Long, House
Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence staff, and asked him for a
phone number where Representative Robert McClory (R., Ill.) could be
reached in Geneva. Long said he would get one for me. Long indicated
Representative Bob Wilson R Calif.) was under the impression there
was and asked Long to find out and report
to him tomorrow on it. I told Long I would call him on the secure phone or
see him in person on this.
Long also said H. Res. 658 calls for the development of a uniform
set of definitions for intelligence related terms and he asked me if I could
provide him anything on this subject. I said it was my understanding there
is a task force underway to develop such definitions and I would check on
the status of the task force. In addition I said we had done some work for
the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence on this subject and I would
provide him those papers as well.
8. (Unclassified - DFM) LIAISON Talked with Dick Giza, House
Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence staff, regarding plans of
Representative Charles Rose (D., N. Car.);to visit Agency Headquarters
on 9 February. Giza indicated Rose was definitely planning on coming and
would like to see the Operations Center, have a briefing on OTS, and
receive an ADP demonstration on how an analyst uses computer terminals.
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