CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT OF INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES

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of these men should not, and cannot die.
Although the death of Malcolm X left
a major void In spearheading the fight
for the world's oppressed peoples we take
small consolation in commemorating his
spirit and techniques. I wish my distin-
guished colleages would join me in hon-
oring this man who, without a doubt,
was one of the most important and sig-
nificant spiritual leaders in the 20th
century.
FCO
INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES
HUN. BARBER B. CONABLE, JR.
Or NEW YORK
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Monday, February 24, 1975
M. CONABLE. Mr. Speaker, I hereby
submit a statement by the Republican
Policy Committee on Congressional
Oversight of Intelligence Activities:
CONGRESSIONAL. OVERSIGHT OF INTELLIGENCE
AOTrvrTrEs
Recent books and press accounts of abuses
in government intelligence activities at home
and abroad have focused attention on the,
need for Congress to strengthen its over-
sight of this sensitive area. The Republican
Policy Committee urges the concentration of
effort, in a single, bipartisan committee to
investigate these reports, formulate such
remedies as might be needed and provide
continuing oversight of the intelligence
activities necessary to national security. A
joint House-Senate committee would, of
course, be preferable,
What is at issue is not whether Congress
shou'.d intepsI4 its until now somewhat re-
laxeo' 'overs{pkfit of government intelligence,
but rather how this task should be accom-
plished.
Our first concern Is the alarming prolifer-
ation of Intelligence oversight committees.
A x'~gideptial Qommission was recently
initLted with Instructions to report its
by April 4 this year. The Senate
Via i igs
cations subcommittee on Intelli-
~dt ~Fperatfons` has begun hearings and
the1ate.,Arpae Services Central Intelli
gerice'SUbt`ammittee is also conducting an
investigation. Qn January 27 of this year,
the Senate enacted S. Res. 21 to establish
11-b3etxlber Sect Committee to Study
the house, pursuant to the committee re-
'is s of the gird Congress, the Foreign
A$ ",,*s s Committee plans to establish a Sub-
eomh7:ft a on Oversight -concerned with,
among er topics, foreign intelligence. The
House Armed Services Committee will main-
tain its Subcommittee on Intelligence. The
Judiciary Subcommittee on Civil and Consti-
tutional Rights has scheduled hearings later
this week on the FBI's role In the alleged
abuses, and the Subcommittee on Courts,
Civil Liberties and Administration Is con-
ducting hearings on FBI and military sur
veillanee.
Against this background of burgeoning
intelligence oversight, the House later this
week will consider whether to establish yet
another House Select Committee on Intelli-
gence. We support a single bipartisan in-
quiry and feel strongly that any Select
Committee should preempt the separate in-
quiries by the standing committees. .
To allow further duplication and over-
lapping would be both a monumental waste
of time when there are many equally-press-
ing problems facing the country and an
unconscionable waste of money when we We have had cheap gas-too cheap In rela-
should be cutting rather than creating new tionship to the cost of other sources of
programs. energy. This has encouraged wasteful use.
We fear that the growing number of In- It has also discouraged exploratory drilling
vestigative committees will favor partisan to find new gas fields. Now we are reaping the
political publicity contests rather than the result of our folly. Demand has outpaced
extremely serious fact-finding and remedy- supply and there isn't enough gas to go
seeking effort needed in response to the im- around.
portant and troubling questions raised about In many ways, natural gas is the most de-
government Intelligence activities. Such a sirable of fuels. It is cleanest from an en-
multitudinous investigative approach could vironmental standpoint. It doesn't require
well prove counterproductive to the national extensive refining. It is moved to customers.
interest if it led to harmful leaks of sensitive through unseen underground pipelines. Con-
information. The fear of, such leaks, further- sumer storage facilities are not needed. No
more, could well compromise the effective- wonder gas is so much in demand,
ness of the oversight effort. It is imperative In fact, it is estimated that natural gas
that careful safeguards be established to pro- now provides about a third of our energy
tect against the leaking of national security needs. Some 40 million homes are heated with
information. gas. Each year about half a trillion cubic
The alleged improper conduct of Federal feet of natural gas is used to produce nitro-
agencies concerns both. Republicans and gen for fertilizer. Natural gas is also the
Democrats alike, and involves both Republi- feedstock for propane, another source of en-
can and Democratic administrations. Inves- ergy on the farm. More than half the farms
tigating these allegations should be the re- in the United States use propane to heat
sponsibility of a balanced nonpartisan com- and cool homes, dry crops and run pumps.
mittee with equal representation of both Yet, natural gas is our cheapest fuel. It
parties. is cheapest because of government action-
Approving a select committee pursuant to not because of the forces of supply and de-
H. Res. 138 would be a step in the wrong mand. This is the heart of the problem. Gas,
direction. It promises to have strong partisan among all energy sources, was singled out
overtones; it is open-ended in both the about 20 years ago for federal price controls.
scope of its Investigation and its cost; it This was not the result of Congressional
provides no safeguards for protecting sensi- action, or even an executive order.
tive information; and it would delay the es- Gas prices have been controlled because of
tablishment of the kind of continuing over- a decision by the United States Supreme
sight function that is truly needed. Court. This was the Philips case which was
The Republican Policy Committee advo- decided in 1954. That decision interpreted
cates the establishment of a single, nonparti- the language of the Natural Gas Act of 1938
san joint House-Senate permanent committee in such a way as to require the Federal
to monitor and investigate government In- Power Commission to regulate prices at the
telligence activities, both at home and wellhead for gas sold across state lines.
abroad, and where necessary to develop rem- For 20 years gas prices have been regu-
edies to prevent future illegal activities. A lated, while other forms of energy have re-
committee of this type would merit consid- sponded to the forces of supply and demand.
erable respect and prestige and would prove Natural gas prices have been held far below
far more effective than the current tend to- the cost of competitive fuels. For instance,
ward the proliferation and resulting dissipa- at mid-year 1974 prices, natural gas sold by
tion of effort. producers in interstate commerce was about
We recognize that intelligence efforts are 28 cents per thousand cubic feet, The same
vital to national security and prefer the joint amount of energy in crude oil was costing
Committee approach as the best way to moni- about $1.30. Equivalent energy In bituminous
tor them and thereby guarantee that they coal was costing 60 to 65 cents, and this did
will continue to function in the best interest not include the higher costs of transporting
of individual citizens and the entire nation. coal.
Is it X1, wonder that such bargain prices
made sy to sell? Or, that use of natu-
ral gas doubled in just two decades? Some-
DEREGULATION OF NATURAL GAS thing always happens when you offer rib-eye
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HON. STEVEN D. SYMMS
OF IDAHO
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Monday, February 24, 1975
Mr. SYMMS. Mr. Speaker, I recently
received one of the finest articles I have
read to date on the subject of deregula-
tion of natural gas at the wellhead. For
the, benefit of my colleagues who will be
oonsidering this issue in the, 94th Con-
gress, I would like to enter it into the
RECORD at this point:
LOW PRICE, BUT WHERE'S THE GAS?
(By Earl W. McMunn)
We are hurting because of the shortage of
natural gas. Government orders have forced
Industries to make big cutbacks to conserve
fuel. This has created layoffs and loss of in-
come. Nitrogen plants are working at less
than capacity, because they can't get enough
gas. This will mean less fertilizer and farm
chemicals for the coming crop season.
a
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ger pr ces, ou soon run ou
of steak. That is what is happening to gas.
And, for an obvious reason. Political controls
were substituted for the economic forces of
supply and demand.
Again, we are learning that you don't "pro-
tect consumers" by controlling prices at un-
realistic levels. At least, you can't do it over
long periods of time. When prices get out of
line, supplies become scarce or disappear
completely. There must be gas in the pipe-
lines, just as there must be livestock in feed-
lots if the people are to prosper.
.No one has yet been able to devise a sys-
tem which combines low prices with ade-
quate supplies. The socialist countries have
tried, but with little success. This Is the
major reason our production has so far out-
paced theirs. Where profit incentives have
been permitted to operate, we have had eco-
nomic development unmatched in the his-
tory of the world.
Edward J. Mitchell of the University of
Michigan says it this way:
"To create a shortage, you simply depress
the market price below the level that equates
supply and demand. To eliminate the short-
age, you free the price and allow it to rise.
People clamor for government to "do some- to equate supply' and demand once more.
thil}g." The truth is that government "did To create a surplus, you raise the price above
something" about 20 years ago. What it did the market-Clearing level. And, to eliminate
was the wrong thing. It imposed right price the surplus you let it fall back. We always
controls over gas prices at the wellhead, have three options. A market-clearing price;
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a price that gives us shortages; a price that
gives us surpluses."
These principles are easy enough to under-
stand. They are not going to operate in a
controlled economy. They don't get the
chance. Political pressures are always to keep
prices low as a "protection for consumers."
.It Is only when supplies disappear that
we become aware of the danger. There is lit-
tle question but what arbitrary price con-
trol on natural gas has been one of the
greatest handicaps to energy production.
Congress much deregulate the gas business
if we are to get production moving in the
right direction.
Already, there is firm evidence to show
that producers will respond to higher prices.
Increases In oil prices and higher natural
gas prices in the intrastate market have
resulted In a sharp turnaround In drilling
activity. During the first 16 years after the
Supreme Court decision, the number of ex-
ploratory gas wells dropped by about 50
percent. During the past three years the
number of drill rigs in operation went up
more than 50 percent.
Energy experts say that our reserves of
natural gas are far from exhaustion. But
gas in the pipeline is what counts now. And
recent price increases to oil and gas pro-
ducers can't stimulate enough production
any time soon. It takes time-as much as
three to five years--to build new equip-
ment, find and develop new fields. Vast
amounts of new capital must be plowed back
into exploration and development. All this
in the face of opposition from some dream-
ers who clamor that "profits must be elim-
inated." We may eliminate profits. If we do,
we will also eliminate production. And, it's
production we need.
It is obvious that federal price control
on gas at the wellhead was a bad choice.
Only Congress can make a change. And the
lawmakers have been slow to act. In fact,
legislation to decontrol the Industry has
been stalled in the Senate Commerce Com-
mittee and the House Interstate and
Foreign Commerce Committee for well over
a year,
Soln'e members say the industry Is "hold-
ing back" natural gas reserves. There Is am-
ple evidence to the contrary. Others claim
that decontrol would cause retail prices to
rise, thus hurting individual consumers. Un-
til this winter they didn't have to face the
stark reality of plant shut down because
of gas shortages. This hurts people too!
Now we are face to face with the question
of whether we want enough gas at higher
prices, or low prices and no gas.
Gas is much more than a source of heat
and power. It is also an important input
in farm production. This is because a sub-
stantial part of our nitrogen fertilizer
production depends upon the use of nat-
ural gas. And fertilizer plants in many parts
of the country have already had their gas
supplies interrupted by action of the Federal
Power Commission.
Just how much government limitations
will affect next spring's fertilizer supplies
remains to be seen. Fertilizer shortfalls for
1974 were estimated at between five and
10 percent. Edwin M. Wheeler, president of
The Fertilizer Institute, says: "With nitro-
gen inventories almost non-existent, the
dangers to next year's food production are
alarming. Our industry is making an all-
out effort to prepare for a booming demand,
but with our feedstocks cut off we are pow-
erless."
We know food reserves are at low levels
both here and abroad. Production Is the
only cure for shortages. Fertilizer is a nec-
essary ingredient if we are to get the pro-
duction. We can't leave, enough fertilizer
if natural gas supplies are unavailable or
interrupted over long periods of time. It is
time for Congress to correct the mistake
the Supreme Court made 20 years ago.
MY RESPONSIBILITY AS A CITIZEN-
WINNING ESSAY
HON. MARK ANDREWS
OF NORTH DAKOTA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Monday, February 24, 1975
Mr. ANDREWS of North Dakota. Mr.
Speaker, I am proud to announce that
Miss Janet Doreen Sims of Enderlin,
N. Dak., has won the Voice of Democracy
essay contest in North Dakota.
Miss Sims is currently an 11th grader
in high school and an outstanding stu-
dent. She has held several school offices
and has many achievements and awards
to her credit. She plans to enter the
University of North Dakota to pursue a
career in nursing.
She is the daughter of Mr. and Mrs.
Pershing Sims of Enderlin.
In her winning essay, entitled "My Re-
sponsibility as a Citizen," Miss Sims
stressed that freedom is both a privilege
and a responsibility, The spirit of respon-
sibility that all of us as citizens must
have, she says, is "one of generosity, de-
termination, and perseverance. It gives
freely of its time and energy and is never
spent out, because it Is identified with the
will to serve."
Miss Sims is an outstanding example
of one who puts her ideas of citizenship
into practice. She has demonstrated her
sense of responsibility and citizenship
through her accomplishments and activ-
ities inside and outside of school.
I would again like to congratulate Miss
Sims. Her essay deserves public atten-
tion and at this time I would like to in-
sert it into the RECORD:
MY RESPONSIBILITY AS A CITIZEN
Being a citizen is certainly a right, but in.
a deeper sense, it is truly a privilege. After
all, as full-fledged citizens, we are not de-
prived of our fundamental rights: freedom of
speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of re-
ligipn and the right to petition the govern-
ment to correct unjust actions. What do
these freedoms consist of? Freedom is often
misunderstood as privileges without limita-
tions or restrictions: in other words, doing
ust as one pleases. Along with freedoms
.tome duties or obligations. When children
are not taught to follow rules, they will most
likely disregard regulations later in life. They
will live along the side lines, hesitant, cow-
:irdly, and selfish, ready to enjoy the benefits
that others provide. The sense of responsibil-
ty is rather the realization that one has
iertain duties and obligations to fulfill to the
neat of one's ability. It involves a recognition
of definite laws or principles of behavior and
understanding of the distinction between
right and wrong, and good and better,
The spirit of responsibility Is one of gen-
irosity, determination, and perseverance. It
fives freely of its time and energy and is
never spent out, because it is identified with
the will to serve.
What is citizenship? Citizenship means full
nembership in it country. It signifies some-
:hing much more than just a dictionary
.neaning. One could read a whole book on
eing a responsible citizen, but the reading
would be worthless unless the ideas discussed
were put into practice.
In the days when the Romans ruled, the
,act of being a 'Roman citizen' was a source
if individual pride second to none. We, too.
should develop this sense of pride in our
.ountry.
Do we take our citizenship for gran
Do we realize how fortunate we are td+,
guaranteed of certain rights?
The establishment of a goal is the key t(,
successful living. The most important step
toward achieving responsibility is to firs:
define it. To be responsible we must all be
leaders, setting good exemples. An effective
leader has such qualities. as confidence. en-
ergy, concern, a good e t of morals, and
above all, faith.
When does the sense cf responsibility be-
gin? It begins in the home with the parents'
influence. If the parents are loyal and honest,
their children will most likely radiate their
likeness. The seeds of confidence are planted
long before a child goes to school. It begins
with the successful performance of limited
tasks. Parents must see that certain values
exist in the home: respect, pride, cooperation,
and sharing. Good citizenship goes farther,
though, out of the home and into the com-
munity and country.
In your community, take part in church
and school doings, social affairs, organiza-
tions and clubs, and so on. Being an active
member keeps you well-informed of the com-
munity's operations and goals, not only to
be informed, but to help the community.
Most important, be loyal and true to your
country, Have faith in your nation's leaders,
even in crucial times, regarding such things
as wars, energy crises, and scandalism. These
problems implore an increasing need for all
people to unite into one Body to solve them.
We gain from this atmosphere of unity an
inner strength, a sense ou belonging, as well
as of responsibility to others.
"Life must be revealed not as a dubious and
pointless struggle but as a magnificent priv-
ilege, a torch that must ')urn as brightly as
possible before it is handed on to the next
generation," 1
HON. JOHN L. BURTON
OF CALIFORNIA : - -
IN THE HOUSE OF REP91115SHTATIVES
Monday, February 24, 1975
Mr. JOHN L. BURT+ Mr. maker',
I am sure all of our copes are con-
cerned with finding sO1UUO31s to the
energy crisis.
I would like to share with the R
a letter I have received from the Cali-
fornia Service Station Council. t at ad-
dresses itself to solving the current prob-
lem.
The letter follows:
CALIFORNIA SERVICE S'SAUON
- G'ovmscn.,`
Oakland, Calif., February 10, 1975.
DEAR CONGi,ESBh1AN Bui,TON: The Califor-
nia Service Station Counci I represents several
thousand service station dealers in the state
of California. We are totally opposed to Presi-
dent Ford's plan to conserve energy by rais-
ing gasoline taxes. We would propose to you
that for a period of ninety days that the fol-
lowing six points be implemented:
1. Mandatory allocation per station at 90-
95% of 1972 sales, and equal allocation for
every dealer.
2. Major oil companies refinery capacity
to be adjusted to 90-95% allocation to con-
form to same allocation i.a retail outlets to
prevent surplus.
3. Restrict imports to 14?72 allocation frac-
tions.
I Clark, General Mark W., "What It Take,
To Be a Leader." Reader's Digest, July 1967,
p. 162.
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January 15, 1975 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE H 139
HON. DAWSON MATHIS to countries that are aggressors against have seen the malignant influence these
. Will the gentleman our allies, and through world monetary OPEC countries have had on the deci-
The from Georgia (Mr. SPEAKER1VIAxxis) present him- organizations we loan money to oil and sions in several of the multinational oil
currency rich nations that are openly companies. We have no reason to suspect
self in the well of the House for the pur- hostile to us. There are many more ex- they would be any more benevolent if
pose, of taking the bath of office? amples of how the United States, by its they were to gain complete control of
Mr. MATHIS appeared at the bar of courtesy, naivete or pure stupidity has the New York Stock Exchange. Indeed,
the House and took the oath of office. put its very existence in jeopardy by their recent attempts to gain control of
failing to look out for its own self-inter- Lockheed Aircraft, one of our largest
A MAN CALLED KING gists. defense contractors, should be a lesson
The recent attempts at detente with to us.
(Mr. DELLUMS asked and was given Russia are good in that they decrease Unfortunately, many investment com-
permission to address the House for 1 the chances of armed conflict with them. panies and the economic development
minute, to revise and extend his remarks However, in our headlong rush to cement arms of many State governments are ap-
and include' extraneous matter.) agreements with them, we have gotten parently oblivious to these dangers for
Mr, ISELLUMS. Mr. Speaker; I wish to the short end of the deal. We have loaned they are continuing to court and woo the
join today in commemorating the 46th them money to purchase our grain and Arab interests. Great Britain did this and
anniversary of the birth of Dr. Martin have taken food out of the mouths of as a result would, be liable to near total
Luther King, Jr., a man whose struggle our own people. We have agreed to cut collapse of its economy should Arab in-
for justice for all people will long be many of our military programs without vestors pull out their money; as they have
remembered by all Americans. His life receiving from them arms reductions of threatened to do should that country
ended tragically nearly 7 years ago, but an equal magnitude. We have sold to take actions that would have a drastic
his "dream" survived and grew. His them our American-developed technol- effect on OPEC.
death marked the rededication on the ogy in exchange for raw or processed Other so-called Third World countries
form other cartels to
them. Our
part Of many lbss-fortunate individuals materials from
to achieve the ideals of love, peace, and will continue to benefit their country embargo eorp raise the price of resources
justice. 'long after we have exhausted the mate- such as copper, iron ore, tin, and phos-
This man _ called Ding traveled a rials we received from them. We have phates. These cartels are nothing more
very long distance in a very short period not been very tough bargainers at the than alliances to fight an economic war
of time. He traveled from Montgomery international market. of aggression againsht the Western
to Mempl is, from manhood to martyr- We have allowed a dozen half-devel- world. We and our allies must recognize
dom, from the depths of misery to the aped nations to cow us completely with this threat for what it has become and
top of the mountain, where truth' and their threats of cutting off our oil sup- take measures to combat it.
love reign supreme. It seems to me that plies and we have meekly acquiesced to An organization of grain exporting
if he coulcjgo that long distance in that their horrendous and unjustified price countries might be a logical first step.
short period of time, then everyone can rises. Wasteful energy practices, a lack The United States, Canada, Australia,
come together to take America on a of foresight and the. almost total in- and France are the principal grain ex-
iourney, a desperately needed journey, action on the part of the Federal Gov- porters in the world. They are also four
from its madness to humanity, from ernmen!t has nearly put us at their countries who have been hit hard by the
exploitation to equality, from racism to mercy. Already Arabian countries who OPEC oil policies and would be hurt by
freedom and from war to peace. I urge make up the majority of the Organza- other resource cartels.
my colleagues today, as we pay tribute tion of Petroleum Exporting Countries- The organization of grain exporting
to this great man, to join in that effort. OPEC-are dictating foreign and in- countries could increase by five or six
7,et Dr. King's birthday serve as a ternal policies in many European coun- times the price of grain to countries who
reminder not only' to 'black people, but tries who depend on these countries for are harming us with their natural re-
to ail people that the struggle for justice 80 to 90 percent of their petroleum. A source cartels. Since there is a worldwide
and individual rights is eternal. Today, good example of this is in the Nether- grain shortage, our export trade is not
nearly 7 years after his death, his words lands, long an ardent supporter of Israel. likely to be diminished by the increased
continue, to echo throughout America Since the oil embargo of 1973, Dutch price. The increased price paid for the
stirring the national conscience: support for Israel has been almost grain would improve our balance of pay-
When we let freedom ring, we let it ring totally nonexistent. Other subtle changes ments situation. Of course, there must be
from every . village' and every hamlet, from in policies have taken place. We must provisions for waiving the cartel prices
every state and every city, we will be able not allow 'hat to happen here. We would for those countries who are not guilty of
ta.g eed up that day when all of God's chil- respond with force to any other coon- economic aggression against us. The car-
dren, black people and white people, Jews try's attempts to control our affairs by tel would also have the additional bene-
and be able to Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will military force. We must recognize that fit of helping to weaken other cartels. and " join reea at t last! Thank sing In the the God alwords-,
Free at last! Free it matters little whether an aggressor Cartels, historically, are unstable and
mighty, we are free at last!" conquers another by taking it militarily usually short-lived affairs. They are an
or economically. artificial system of pricing that have no
Even if we prevent the OPEC coun- relationship to supply and demand. Any
LET'S FIGHT BACK tries from controlling or influencing us system such as this has a limited life un-
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a 'politically through their economic pres- less artificially supported. A grain car-
previous order of the House, the gentle- sures, they have another perfectly legal tel would, I feel, have a destabilizing ef-
man, from Mississippi (Mr. COCHRAN) is avenue which they are pursuing vigor- fect on OPEC and other similar orga-
recbgnized for 16 minutes. ously. They are investing their billions nizations. I do not favor indefinite par-
Mr, COCHRAN. Mr. Speaker, the of surplus dollars in our property and ticipation by the United States in such
United States is in danger of becoming corporations. Through these purchases, cartels, but we may find that this limited
a second-rate world power. It has been they can literally buy large segments of action is preferable to the inaction that
put in this danger not by any malevolent our economy and through the purchases allows us to be trod upon worldwide.
foreign power or internal conspiracy, control them. And since large companies The United States must wake up to
but by the excessive use of our good will have varying degrees of influence in the realize that no one respects a patsy. Al-
and patience, and by our failure to apply country, the effect is obvious. According though it did the United States no good,
the needed caution in our dealings with to estimates by economists, Saudi Arabia I have to respect the decision a few
other nations. We export coal and other alone could buy IBM with 143 days of its weeks ago by Canada's Prime Minister
energy sources when we ' do not have currency surpluses accumulated from oil Pierre Trudeau to shut off their Petro-
adequate supplies at home. We export sales to us and other Western nations. leum exports to the United States. His
grain to the Soviet Union in the name Using the same yardstick that country reasons were simple: even though they
of detente and thereby drive the price could purchase every company on the are our allies, their own self-interest
of a loaf' of bread beyond the budgets of New York Stock Exchange in 9 years or and predicted shortfalls -of energy dic-
many of our own people. We sell arms Exxon Corp. in 79 days. In the past we tated that they cease exporting that
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which they did not have in safficiert sup-
ply. It is time for the United States to
start looking out for its own self-inter-
ests. We must, of coluse, cooperate with
our allies and search for solutions to
the shortages and animosities that have
spawned the cartels. We must use more
caution in our dealings with other
countries and make sure that our bene-
fits are commensurate with those re-
ceived by the other side. We must de-
velop the sorts of alternate energy sources
and natural resource stockpiles that
grant us the highest degree of independ-
ence from the influences of third world
cartels and other foreign powers. We
must erect safeguards to 1mit foreign
investments whose presence and threat
of withdrawal offers the specter of out-
side hegemony. In short, we must make
the sacrifices and take the actions that
will assure that the United States of
America will not slide into the depths of
mediocrity on a board greased with
Arabian oil,
INTRODUCTION OF A BILL TO
III CREATE A JOINT COMMITTEE
ON INTELLIGENCE OVERSIGHT
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a
previous order of the House, the gentle-
man from Minnesota (Mr. RENZEL) is
recognized for 15 minutes.
Mr. FRENZEL. I rise on behalf of my-
self and Representative STEELMAN of
Texas. Recently there has been a grow-
ing concern, both here and in the other
body, with the obvious lack of oversight
which we in the Congress have over the
various Federal intelligence-oriented
agencies.
It is our own fault that the present
situation exists. For too many years Con-
gress has been extremely reluctant to ask
the kind of questions which could insure
policy supervision and accountability for
actions taken by the CIA, FBI, Secret
Service, Defense Intelligence Agency, the
National Security Agency, and several
others which we are only now learning
about.
To correct some of the ab ises which
we have seen and to strengthen congres-
sional oversight, Congressman STEELMAN
and I are today reintroducing legislation
to establish a Joint Committee on Intel-
n
e jurisdiction
ligence Oversight. It will be provided with Ommittee of both Houses. it is a respon- of the joint committee.
broad powers to authorize, investigate, ability which we can no longer Ignore. (b) The Director of tie Central Intemi-
and legislate on matters related to the This bill is not the only congressional gence Agency, the Director of the Federal Bureau of
Direc specific intelligence agencies as well as `suggestion which will be heard in the Secret a Investigation, the Direcl tion, the of the nor De of f the
se,
other intelligence inatters considered
;cling months, but, regardless of what is Intelligence Agency, and' he Director ofthe
throughout the federal system. Inally enacted, this body must assume National Security Agent shall keep the
The Joint Committee, would be col- 'esponsibility for the actions of U.S. se- joint committee fully s-d currently in-
posed of t4 mtee, 7 would b z which the chalr-
sfonal expense for security personnel or mail is a Member.
office and equipment modification. (c) A majority of the members of the joint
committee shall constiti e a quorum for this
It is not our purpose, however, to de- transaction of business,, xcept that the joint
prive committees with current oversight committee may fix a ll?sser number as i?.
jurisdiction, such as armed services, quorum for the purpose d taking testimony=
foreign relations, appropriations, et Vacancies in the men' 'rship of the joint:
cetera, from discharging their duties or committee shall not affent the power of the,
to limit their ability to monitor the total remaining; members to e: ecute the functions=.
of activities within their fields. But our of the joint committee Urid shall be fined iii
bill Sim i the same manner as in tie case of the origi-
p y provides that no legislation, nal appointment.
or provision contained in any legislation, (d) Service of a genatc,r as a member or a?:
regarding matters within the purview of chairman of the joint c imrnittee shall rio . '
the Joint Committee can be considered be taken into account or the purpose'ssos
by either House unless it has been sub- paragraph o of rule X1i V of the Standing
mitted by the Joint Committee or is a Rules of the Senate.
floor amendment to such legislation. DUTIES OF THE Jor. rT COMMITTEE
The litany of offenses committed in SEC. 3. (a) It shall be the duty of the joint
the name of national security is too long committee to conduct r: continuing study
to list. It has been well documented both and investigation of the activities and op-
here on the floor and in the national Me._ Aerations of (1) the I 'astral Intelligence
dir. Somethi Ay, (2) the Federal )=ricer of Investiga-
ng must be done. The irli- tion, Department of. Just*ce, (3) the United
tiative's taken by the President is erect.- States Secret Service, (4) the Defense Intel-
ing the Commission on CIA Activities ligence Agency. Department of Defense, (5)
and launching other executive investi- the National Security A ^ency, and all
gations are an excellent beginning. So is other departments and a envies of th(6) ed-
this Hon e'S action in creating a select eral Government insofar s,s the activities and
committee. But as much as we applaud agencies tions t to oother departments gathers and
these actions, however, Congress must sur surveillance offipe cons; id tree sliderripro-
follow up, regardless of the immediate ef- posals for the iniproven,'nt and reorgani-
rects of these efforts, with long-term zation of agencies and r`spartments of the
uupervision and control through a joint Federal Government witl !
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operations of any other department or agency
of tho Federal Government shall be referred
to the joint committee:
(2) No funds may be appropriated for the
purpose of carrying out any intelligence or
surveillance activity or' operation by any
office, or any department or agency of the
Federal Caovernment, unless such funds for
such activity or operation have been specif-
ically authorized by legislation enacted after
the date of enactment of this Act.
(3) No bill or resolution, and no amend-
ment to any bill orresolution, and no matter
contained in any bill 'or resolution in either
House, dealing with any matter which is
within the jurisdiction of the joint commit-
tee shall be considered in that House unless
it is :a bill or resolution which has been re-
liorted by the joint committee of that House
(or from the consideration of which such
committee has been discharged) or unless it
is an amendment to such a bill or resolution.
Nothing in this subsection shall be construed
to deprive any committee of either House
from exercising legislative oversight with
respect to intelligence acid surveillance activi-
ties and operations related to the jurisdic-
tion of such committee.
(4) Members of the joint committee who
are Members of the Senate shall from time
to time report to the Senate, and members
of the joint committee who are Members of
the ; House of Representatives shall from
time to time report to the House, by bill or
otherwise, their recommendations with` re-
spect to matters within the jurisdiction of
their respective Houses and which are re-
ferred to the joint committee or otherwise
within the _ jurisdiction `of the joint com-
mittee.
ADMINISTRATIVE POWERS
Szc. 4. (a) The joint committee, or any
subcommittee thereof, is authorized, in its
discretion: to make expenditures; to employ
personnel; to adopt rules respecting its or-
ganization and procedures; to hold hearings;
to sit and act at any time or place; to sub-
pens witnesses and documents; with the
prior consent of the Federal department or
agency concerned, to use on a reimbursable
basis the services of personnel, Information,
and, facilities of any such department or
agency; to procure printing and binding; to
procure the temporary services (not in ex-
cess of one year) or intermittent services of
individual consultants, or organizations
thereof, and to provide assistance for the
training of its professional staff, in the same
manner and under the same conditions as a
standing committee of the Senate may pro-
cure such services and provide such assist-
ance under subsections `(i) and (j), respec-
tively, of section 202 of the Legislative Re-
organization Act of 1946; and to take depo-
sitions and other testimony.
(b) Subpenas may be issued over the sig-
nature of the chairman of the joint commit-
tee or, by any member designated by him or
the Joint committee, and may be served by
such person as may be designated by such
chairman or member. The chairman of the
joint committee or any member thereof may
administer oaths to witnesses. The provisions
of sections 102 to 104 of the Revised Statutes
(2 U.S.G. 192-194) shall apply in the case of
any failure of any witness to comply with a
sub )ena or to testify when summoned under
authority of this subsection.
CLASSIFICATION OF INFORMATION
SE:C. 6. The joint committee may classify
information originating within the commit.
tee in accordance with standards used gen-
erally by the executive branch for classifying
restricted data or defense information.
RECORDS OF JOINT COMMITTEE
SEC, 6. The joint committee shall keep a
complete record of all joint committee ac-
tions, including a record of the votes on any
questiolron which a record vote is demanded.
All records, data, charts, and files of the
joint committee shall be the property of the
joint committee and shall be kept in the
offices of the joint committee or such other
places as the joint committee may direct.
EXPENSES OF JOINT COMMITTEE
SEC. 7. The expenses of the joint com-
mittee shall be paid from the contingent
fund of the Senate from funds appropriated
for the joint committee, upon vouchers
signed by the, chairman of the joint commit-
tee or by any member of the joint committee
authorized by the chairman.
- HOUSE COMMITTEE ON INTERNAL
SECURITY
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a
previous order of the House, the gentle-
man from Maryland (Mr. BAUMAN) is rec-
ognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. BAUMAN. Mr. Speaker, yesterday
the House, in an extremely unfortunate
decision, decided to abolish the House
Committee on Internal Security. The
crucial vote came on the previous ques-
tion on the new House rules and the vote
was 247 in favor of abolishing the com-
mittee and 172 against. On this vote, the
House accomplished what the commit-
tee's enemies including the Communist
Party have been trying to do for more
than thirty years; to destroy one of the
most effective arms anticommunism has
had in this Nation.
I'have no doubt in my mind that if a
separate roll call vote on abolishing the
committee had been allowed, the major-
ity would have favored its continuance.
Unfortunately, the Democratic Caucus
voted in secret on this matter and be-
cause of the parliamentary situation
members were not forced, as they should
have been, to vote directly on this issue.
In past sessions of the Congress a ma-
jority has voted consistently to,'retain
this committee-most recently on Octo-
ber 2, 1974, when the vote was 246 in
favor and 164 opposed. As was pointed out
in yesterday's debate, the Committee on
Internal Security has been the only
stalding committee in the House charged
with conducting continuing investiga-
tions in order to inform the House con-
cerning subversion. At a time when our
democratic institutions are threatened,
both within and without our borders, by
international revolutionary forces, this
House has voted to weaken the internal
security of our Nation.
During the Republican Conference
which was held yesterday, I offered a mo-
tion that the Republican Party in the
House go on record in' support of the
colitinuation of the House Committee on
Internal Security. This motion was
adopted on a standing vote of 68 to 26
which demonstrates the overwhelming
support the committee has amongst our
Republican members. I am proud that my
party was willing to take this stand and
was also willing to go on record on this
issue.
I intend to join others in the House in
an, effort to renew the mandate of this
committee and its existence because I be-
lieve it is a vital part of our national in-
terest in fighting subversion.
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COMPREHENSIVE 'RIGHT TO
PRIVACY
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a
previous order of the House, the gentle-
man from California (Mr. GOLDWATER)
is recognized for 30 minutes.
Mr. GOLDWATER. Mr. Speaker, it
gives me a great deal of pleasure to an-
nounce to the House that the bipartisan
coalition of Congressman ED KOCH and
myself on the issue of comprehensive
privacy legislation will continue in the
94th Congress. Today, we are introducing
a revised Koch-Goldwater Comprehen-
sive Right to Privacy Act.
Because of the successful passage of
privacy legislation in the closing days of
the last Congress, and because that leg-
islation applied solely to the Federal
Government, the new Koch-Goldwater
legislation will contain provisions that
apply only to the States and localities,
to private enterprise and to nonprofit
organizations. A brief description of the
legislation and the text, as introduced,
will follow my remarks.
Congressman KocH and myself intend
to offer this legislation for cosponsor-
ship and a "Dear Colleague" soliciting
your support will be sent out in a few
days. Both of us encourage each of our
colleagues to consider our proposal care-
fully. We believe that you will find the
simplicity, clarity, and flexibility of our
proposal worthy of your support.
Our legislation contains the following
provisions:
RIGHT To PRIVACY ACT: SUMMARY OF NEW
LEGISLATION
FINDINGS AND DECLARATION OF PURPOSE
An individual's personal privacy is af-
fected by the extensiveness of collection,
use, and disclosure of information about
him.
Organizations keeping personal infor-
mation should allow individuals the right
to know files exist, to inspect them, and
correct inaccurate statements.
The increasing use of computers and
sophisticated information technology has
greatly magnified the harm that can
occur from misuse of personal informa-
tion.
Personal information includes any-
thing that describes an individual, such
as his education, financial transactions,
medical or employment records, and life-
style.
SAFEGUARD REQUIREMENTS FOR PERSONAL
INFORMATION SYSTEMS
All State and local governments and.
business organizations and nonprofit
organizations must comply with these
requirements, whether having manual
or computer based information systems.
Information collected should be ap-
propriate to needs of the organization
seeking it, maintained completely and
competently, and personal information
must not be given to third parties with-
out the individual's consent.
Whefi information is collected, the in-
dividual must be told if the request is
mandatory or voluntary and what pen-
alty or loss of benefit will result for non-
compliance.
Several categories of privileged, sensi-
tive information should be established
by organizations and particular require-
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ments set before the information is dis-
seminated.
Information about Americans cannot
be transferred to a foreign e)untry un-
less the provisions of the act are extended
by any receiving country.
Persons involved in handling personal
information must act under a code of
professional secrecy and be subject to
penalties for any breaches.
Anyone wishing to stop receiving mail
because his name is on a mailing list can
do so.
Individuals cannot be required to give
their social security number fcr any pur-
pose not related to their social security
account.
PUBLIC NOTICE AND INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS
Organizations using personal informa-
tion must give annual public notice
describing their information systems.
An individual may receive at reason-
able cost a copy of his file including in-
vestigative reports, which must contain
its uses and transfers to third parties, be
able to challenge inaccurate c:r undocu-
mented information, and have his posi-
tion in a dispute added to his file.
Individuals must be notified that in-
formation is being maintained about
them.
for private lands. County governments
would then:, at their option, receive pay-
ments from the Federal Government
based on the actual value of the Federal
lands within their boundaries or con-
tinue to receive the Federal revenues
that normally flow from those lands un-
der other Federal programs.
The bill is relatively simple in concept,
uncomplicated to administer, and it of-
fers a solution to a number of serious
Problems associated with Federal land
ownership.
In the Western States, where much of
the land is publicly owned, the impact
of the Federal presence is highly visible.
But anywhere that the Federal Govern-
ment owns land, there is an impact, and
'eason dictates that there should be an
)rderly and logical way to deal with that
mpact. In Utah, with over 70 percent
;)f the land owned by the Federal Gov-
-,rnment, the impact of public lands on
adjacent communities is of real concern
to us. We enjoy benefits from Federal
:and, but the Federal presence generates
certain responsibilities and certain diffi-
.ulties that are being met only haphaz-
urdly.
There are a number of programs under
which local governments are compen-
=ated in part for Federal land holdings.
however, none of these programs is tied
o the actual impact of Federal land, nor
,to they assure the localities that the
oats generated by the Federal presence
will be met in Federal revenues.
Life in rural America traditionally has
reen complicated by some unique prob-
?ems. The many services taken for
,.ranted in our towns and cities, such as
, lectricity, water, telephones, health
ervices, and law enforcement, are
carce, high priced, or even nonexistent.
One major cause for this situation is the
lack of a strong property tax base to
inance services. In more densely popu-
ated areas of the Nation, local govern-
=nents have come under increasing pres-
ure as they try to reconcile rising ex-
>ectations for services with inflation that
'
Eats into budgets and increase prices be-
,ond the scope of affordability. Rural
,;;overnments suffer these burdens, as well
s the added problems of low tax bases
.rid greater per capita expenses. And the
i problem is compounded where the pres-
nee of Federal lands generate a need
or governmental services, while denying
he corresponding tax base to finance
hose services.
Installations located on Federal land,
laineral development and recreational
i se of Federal land-all attract popu:la-
i on to adjacent areas. This population
requires many services and services cost
i lre State and local governments money.
`?et the tax base to finance these services
i ; absent, in part, due to the fact that
i tderal land is nontaxable. The injustice
c'f this situation has been recognized in
l tw by the compensation of local govern-
ments where Federal Installations have
depleted the property tax for schools
eral land. Under a sy,c, ';em of pa` a,.
in lieu of taxes, feirne s would be ins?
tuted and the Governor=ant would provide
a logical share of the coats associated
with the impact of Fedt rat lands.
This. idea is not ne' -. It was recom-
mended by the Public and Law Revie+x
Commission of 1971). Herrings on the pro
posal were held last ye Rr in my distric'
We need this legis'=.atiog more than ever
With unprecedented denands for energy
and the recognition th1t we must move
to develop the mineral 4-esources on Fed-
eral lands, we need a s>< stem of compen-
sation that will meet he needs of the
times. This bill will gin to local govern-
ments the flexibility tli ey must have to
meet the rapid influx r.f population as-
sociated problems of resource develop-
ment.
I urge my colleague to join me in
support of this measure
EXCEPTIONS
Criminal law enforcement, press files,
and certain administrative ir. formation
systems are excluded if specifically ex-
empted by statute or Executive order
where Congress is duly informed.
FEDERAL PRIVACY BOARD
Establish a five-member Federal Pri-
vacy Board serving on a full-Line basis,
appointed by the President a th Senate
confirmation, having 3-year te.-ms.
The Board will collect and publish
information on personal information sys-
tems, issue regulations, conduct research
on improving standards, inspect systems
when noncompliance is suspe,ted, hear
requesst for exceptions, and transmit
annual reports to Congress anc the Pres-
ident.
Only Congress can grant e.semptions
or exclusions from this act. States and
localities will be encouraged to establish
privacy authorities to have the same
duties as the Federal Board.
PENAL"IES
There are civil and criminal penalties
to be assessed by the courts, at the re-
quest of individuals or the Board.
Injunctions can be sought by the
Attorney General to s' op practices violat-
ing the act.
LOCAL GOVERNMENT TAX
IMMUNITY
The SPEAKER pro temporc Under a
previous order of the House, tae gentle-
man from Utah (Mr. McKAY) is recog-
nized for 5 minutes.
Mr. McKAY. Mr. Speaker, I join today
with my colleague from Utah, Mr.- Hows,
in introducing a bill to provid?: an equi-
table system of compensation to local
governments for the tax immunity of
Federal lands within their boundaries,
Under the terms of this legislation, Fed-
eral land would be appraised at a rate
comparable to the applicable tax rate
'-,-bile causing an influx of population. alone, would be 720 per -ent. The dollar
I tut, as yet, there is no uniform, fair, and amount of Federal rev=enue associated
l:,gical way to provide compensation to with land fees in 1973 vrould have risen
local governments for the taxes lost to from $36,463 to $285.71='5 under the in
t aem and the added burdens placed upon lieu tax proposal,
t::ieir treasuries by the presence of Fed- The aggregate tax loss to the Western
GOVERN??,2ENT
IMMUNI rY
The SPEAKER, pro t=pore. Under a
previous order of the P Ouse, the gentle-
man from Utah (Mr. h-IowE) is recog-
nized for 5 minutes.
Mr. HOWE. Mr. Speaker, many of our
Western States have substantial portions
of their land areas in F?,deral ownership,
Unlike most other States, these lands
have never passed thror gh the historical
process of grant and h mmestead to pri-
vate ownership. While I -altzing the ulti-
mate goal would be th, s private owner-
ship of these lands, the 1. ill offered, today,
addresses the more exi ?ent demand for
tax equity and econon-fc development.
The Federal ownershir of these lands
creates substantial reve::ue inequities for
these States by deprivir;g their counties
of any right to levy taxes on these lands.
An artificial expedient has been at-
tempted through the r?-turn of royalty
payments and grazing I .,?es to the coun-
ties affected. In my ow-i State of Utah
these fees uniformally 'all far short of
what the individual co=rntfes would re-
ceive in property tax r lvenues if these
lands were privately ovuied. On Forest
Service lands, for examp_e, these counties
get an average return f-om the Federal
Government of 4 cents = oer acre. In con-
trast{ to this temporizfnt solution now in
effect, both reason and c qulty would dic-
tate the Federal Gover-ment should be
treated as the land owi-er which It has
become. The Federal Government would,
then, be required to mak a fair payment
in lieu of those taxes wh; ^h such counties
would otherwise receive
To underscore the dis rarity currently
existing, the testimony c ` Vernon L. Hol-
man, chairman of the Jtah State Tax
Commission--before the House Environ-
mental Subcommittee o) September 13,
1974 at Salt Lake City. Utah, indicated
an in lieu tax bill won; d increase Fed-
eral revenue in the four counties sur-
veyed: Emery, Garfield, Kane, and
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(1) by striking out "$85,000,000" and in- Sac. B. Section 303(c) (1) of the Regional
serting in lieu thereof "$282,000,000"; and Rail Reorganization Act of 1973 (45 U.S.C.
(2) by adding at the end thereof the fol. 745 (c)(1)) is amended by striking out the
lowing new sentence; "Of amounts au- last word of paragraph (A), by striking out
thorizcd tope appropriated under this sub- the period at the end of paragraph (B) and
section, $50.,000,000, shall be available solely inserting "; and" in lieu thereof, and by in-
to pay to the trustees of railroads in reor- sorting after paragraph (B) the following
ganization such sums as may be necessary new paragraph:
revenues attributable to tariff increases
propoa;ed by such railroads and suspended by
the Interstate Commerce Commission during
the calendar year 1975, if the Secretary deter-
mines that such payments are necessary to
carry out this section.".
SEc. 7. Section 216 of the Regional Rail
Reorganization Act of 1973 (45 U.S.C. 725)
is amended to read as follows:
"INTERIM AGREEMENTS
"SEc. 215. (a) PURPOSEs. Prior to the date'
upon which rail properties are conveyed to
the Corporation under this Act, the Secre-
tary, with the approval of the Association,
is authorized to enter into agreements with
the trustees of the railroads in reorganiza-
tion In the region (or railroads leased, op-
erated, or controlled by ? railroads in
reorganization) -
oy a railroad in reorganization from an en-
tity other than the Corporation for the sale,
lease, or transfer of property subject to an
agreement under section 213 or section 215
(a) (1) or (2) of this Act reflects value
attributable to the maintenance or improve-
ment provided pursuant to the agreement.".
SEC. 9. Title VI of the Regional Rail Re-
organization Act of 1973 is amended by add-
ing at the end thereof the following new
section:
The SPEAKER. The gentleman from
Illinois (Mr. MURPHY) is recognized for
1 hour.
Mr. MURPHY of Illinois. Mr. Speaker,
I yield 30 minutes to the gentleman from
Illinois (Mr. ANDERSON) pending which I
yield myself such time as I may consume.
(Mr. MURPHY of Illinois asked and
was given permission to revise and
extend his remarks.)
Mr. MURPHY of Illinois. Mr. Speaker,
House Resolution 174 provides for an
open rule with 1 hour of general debate
on House Resolution 138, a resolution
establishing a Select Committee on In-
telligence.
House Resolution 138 authorizes th
e
"TAX PAYMENTS TO STATES Select Commitee on Intelligence to con -
"SEC 605. (a) Notwithstanding any other duct an inquiry into the collection and
provision of law, no railroad in reorganiza- use of intelligence information and aile-
tion shall withhold from any State, or any of intelligence of improper and illegal activities
political subdivision thereof, the payment of intelligence agencies in the United
of the portion of any tax owed by such rail- States and abroad.
road to such State or subdivision, which por- House Resoluton 138 also authorizes
tion has been collected by such railroad the Select Committ
f
t
ee
rom any tenant thereof.
o inquire into the
"(1) to perform the program maintenance "(b) Any railroad which violates the pro. ties in activities of furtherance certain of their study.
government agen-
on designated rail properties of such rail- visions of subsection (a) of this section by roads until the date rail properties are con- withholding any portion of a tax referred to Mr. Speaker, I urge the adoption Of
veyed under this Act; in such subsection shall be fined not more House Resolution 174 in order that we
"(2) to improve rail properties of such than $10,000 for each such violation.". may discuss, debate, and pass House Res-
railroads; and olution 138.
"(3) to acquire rail properties for lease The motion was agreed to. (Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. Mr.
or loan to any such railroads until the date The Senate bill was ordered to be Speaker, I yield myself such time as I
such rail properties are conveyed under this read a third time, was read the third may require.
Act, and subsequently for conveyance pur- time and passed, and a motion to re-
suant to the final system plan, or to acquire consider was laid on the table. (Mr? ANDERSON of Illinois asked and
interests in such rail properties owned by A similar House bill (H.R. 2051) cc a s was given
permission to revise and ex-
or lea4rd to ally such railroads or in p?r_ . .-
to subsection (a) of this section shall cony
tain such reasonable terms and conditions
as the Secretary may prescribe. In addition,
agreements under paragraphs (1) and (2)
of subsection (a) of this section shall pro-
vide that-
"(1) to the extent that physical condi-
tion is used as. a basis for determining,
under section 206(f) or 303(c) of this Act,
the value of properties subject to such an
agreement and designated for transfer to the
Corporation under, the final system plan,
the physical condition of the properties on
"(2) in the event that property subject to
the
e
agr
ement is sold, leased, or transferred
to an entity other than the Corporation, the
trustees or railroad shall pay or assign to the
Secretary that portion of the proceeds of
such sale, lease, or transfer which reflects
value attributable to the maintenance and
imnprovenie;lt provided pursuant to the agree-
ment.
"(C) OBLIGATIONS.--Notwithstanding sec-
tion 210 (b) of this title, the Association shall
issue obligations under section 210(a) of
this title in an amount sufficient to finance
such agreements and shall require the Cor-
poration to assume any such obligations. The
aggf' ,gate amount of obligations issued un-
der this section and outstanding at any one
time shall. not exceed $300,000,000. The As-
soci
ti
a
on, with the approval of the Secretary,
shall designate in the final system plan that
portion of such obligations issued or to be
GENERAL LEAVE
Mr. STAGGERS. Mr. Speaker, I ask
unanimous consent that all Members
may have 5 legislative days in which to
extend their remarks on the bill just
passed.
The SPEAKER. Is there objection to
the request of the gentleman from West
Virginia?
There was no objection.
Mr. Speaker,, I think Ot a di tinguished gn-
tlenlan from Illinois (Mr. MURPHY) , my
colleague on the Committee on Rules,
has explained the purpose of this resolu-
tion. I would merely add that it makes in
order House Resolution 138, which in-
volves the original jurisdiction of the
House Committee on Rules because it
would establish a Select Committee on
Intelligence.
It would have, of course, been possible
under the rules of the House to bring
that matter bef
t
ore
his body as a privi-
ESTABLISHING A SELECT COMMIT- leged matter, not subject to amendment,
TEE ON INTELLIGENCE in which
:t . _
case
Mr. MURPHY of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, sary for me, or someone on this side of
by direction of the Committee on Rules, movt the edit urgge e the o theeof at of ghestion ous
I call up House Resolution 174 and ask question ur submit a the
s
for its immediate consideration. which in would order be open submit a dme t.
resolution
The Clerk read the resolution, as fol-
lows: Mr. Speaker, I am grateful to my col-
H. RES. 174 league on the committee, the gentleman
Resolved, That upon the adoption of this from Missouri (Mr. BOLLING) , who of-
resolution it shall be in order to move that feted in the Committee on Rules a mo-
the House resolve itself into the committee tide for an open rule, a resolution mak-
Union for the ec nHouse an the sideratio of thestate solof the ing this ution a completely topenbule, which Itthink is
(H. Res. 138) establishing a Select Committee proper procedure in view of the very im-
on Intelligence. After general debate, which portant issues involved and the fact that
shall be confined to the resolution and shall I have four amendments that I wish to
continue not to exceed one hour, to be equal-
ly divided and controlled by the chairman offer to the ersOllltiOn. There may be,
and ranking minority member of the Corn- of course. others who h-
i
ea ---- be reaa _-t
n addition to the four that I
and t for amendment
terms thereof, and
that portion from which under the five-minute rule. have to offer, but I will not take the time
the Corpo.-ation shall be released of its obli- At the conclusion of the consideration of now under the rule to discuss those
gations. the resolution for amendment, the Commit- amendments. We will have an hour to
tee
(d) shall rise and report the resolution to the do so under general debate, and at that
" CONVEYANCE.-The Secretary may House kvith such amendments as may have
convey to the Corporation, with or without been adopted, and the previous question time I will in Which with those
receipt of consideration, any property or in- shall be considered as ordered on the resolu-
terests particulars in whicch h I, , differ With the
acquired by, transferred to, or other- tion and amendments thereto to final passage drafters of House Resolution 138 and
wise held by the Secretary pursuant to this without intervening motion except one mo- think that their product could be im-
section or section 213 of this Act.",
tion to recommit.
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Mr. Speaker, I woul t oin my colleague I will have, however, some amend- reorganized oversight by the Congress of
from Illinois in urging the acoption of r rents, I point out to the gentlemen, to U.S. intelligence activities. also a
thorizes the rule that can or.eed with 2e lutiontwe expense, to au- thelselectcom mittee to inquireuinto the
the debate e on this s evolutl tion.
Mr. BAUMAN. Mr. Speaker, will the uhorization and replace s it with the ceil- acivies of
outside es in furtherance llofotheir study. agen
;;entleman yield? ; og, and a subceiling,
Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. I yield to 0 orisultants, and I think, also, change the These agencies include, among others,
the gentleman from Maryland. eporting date, to try to compress into a the National Security Council; the Cen-
Mr. BAUMAN. Mr. Speaker, I would ,.snorter time scale the work of the com- tral Intelligence Agency; the intelligence
like to ask the gentleman frc-rn Illinois nittee, so that they would not be en- components of the Departments of the ving
, and
Into A
he In co give his opinion on this set a of cr. ial hese :ouraged to endlessly go on
De-
and they would film h their gene and Research Bur eau tof thetelli
have by a 1~?:e tvork quickly and expeditiously. partment of State; the Federal Bureau
comm sssicon: headed We
omn
devoting president reside
dg itself to a complete investiga- So I am going to try in these amend- of Investigation; the Department of the
tion of the issues this select committee :rnents to answer some of the various Treasury: and the Department of Justice.
would consider. tuestions the gentleman has expressed. Mr. Chairman, I think this resolu-
We have a committee of the other Mr. MURPHY of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, tion is long overdue. Earlier one of the
body, which will do the same ..ling. Now move the previous question on the res- Members questioned the idea of why
r )iu.tion. the Hou:,e is engaging in the same ac-
which maytior~ may thirdnot cooperate ]with The previous question was ordered. tivity that the Presidential Commis-
these other groups which wll go over The resolution was ageed to. sion and the Senates already engaged
the same ground. We have just abolished A motion to reconsider was laid on the in. I would like to answer that question
the House Internal Security Committee, -able. in this way:
and one of the arguments was that it was Mr. MURPHY of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, As far as the Presidential Commis-
the duty of other agencies to investigate I move that the House resolve itself into sion is concernec., we have the execu-
subversion and that committee was not the Committee of the Whole House on the tive department invesi,igating itself, in-
needed. How, in times when v e are faced State of the Union for the consideration vestigating an executive agency. As far
with economic problems and the need to +'>f the resolution (H. Res. 138) estab- as the Senate is 0onccnied, I agree with,
cut back on the budget, can we justify fishing a Select Committee on Intelli- my colleague, the gentleman from 1111..
hence. not.- (Mr'. ANDERSON), that possibly this
creating still anothd committed to go The SPEAKER. The question is on the should have been a joint committee.
over this same grounnd.? Will the gentle- motion offered by the gentleman from However, the Senate committee is al-
man address himself to thy:? ;-llinois (Mr. MURPHY). ready well on the road in its investiga -
Mr. ANDERSON of Illin is. I think The motion was agreed to. Lion, and I think: the House is justified
there are some very relevar_i, and justi-
fiable concerns about the p?>ssibility of err THE COMMITTrE or THE wxoI in pursuing its own investigation.
duplication, and those hav> been ex- Accordingly the House resolved -itself Mr. Chairman, yesterday the Commit-
pressed by many Members of this body. into the Committee of the Whole House tee on Rules adopted four amendments
The Presidential Commisio i, to whieL on the State of the Union for the consid- to this resolution of original jurisdiction
haseman
ERSC e gentl
some f rurom n m
the gentleman refer s, I belie ye is sexed- eration of House Resolution 138, with and understand
tiled to report on or about the 4th of Mr. FLYNT in the chair. (Mr. Aw)
April 1975, and I think there are sever. The Clerk read the title of the resolu- ttherryamendments he intends to offer
other members on that Commission IL Lion. of Illinois. Mr.
was felt, and I think with some justifica- By unanimous consent, the first read- Mr. I ANDERSyield ON
myself 10 minutes.
tion, that in addition to having the, ing of the resolution was dispensed with. Chairman, asked and
executive branch review this matter, than The CHAIRMAN. Under the rule, the (Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois and en:-
Congress, with its independent authority gentleman from Illinois (Mr. MURPHY) was given ssion to revise
and with its independent r-sponsibility will be recognized for 30 minutes, and the tend his remarks.)
permi Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. Mr. Chai?, -
for oversight, should refere ce. a sflmilafrankly, r wil tbe
investigation. My preference, re cognized for 30 minutes. Dpi+soN> man, as I indicated ill the brief Cho colloquy
would have been for a join' committee:, The Chair recognizes the gentleman I had with the genlexnan from Maryland
I introduced, along with tee gentleman from Illinois (Mr. MURPHY). (Mr. with BAUMAN) moments ago, certainly
from Pennsylvania (Mr. BizsTER), earlier Mr. MURPHY of Illinois. Mr. Chair- my preference mould have been for the
this year a resolution-we I: ad some co- man, I yield myself such time as k may creation of a joint committee in order to
sponsors, as I recall it-with the idea of a consu r MURPHY of Illinois asked and eliminate the posaibi ities of duplication
joint Senate.-House cola se to conduct tMr. and waste that are inherent, I thn;k,
oversight on this whole question. ahead given permission to revise and ex- when we have two committees functxon-
tunately, the Senate chose to go ahead tend his remarks.) w in, in the same area.
rather quickly and establish their own Mr. MURPHY of Illinois. Mr. Chair- Hawaver, I think we have passed that
Senate select committee. think that man, House Resolution 138 establishes a point, as illy thinkgvie has just pointed
pretty well preempts any a;action on the House Select Committee on Intelligence, out.
part of the House to set up a joint com to be compyosed of 10 members, to be
mittee. It would be rather futile for us to appointed b the Speaker, who shall des- I want to start by saying that I cer-w proceed with that idea because there i,, ignate one of the members as chairman. to wl of the of h they convi tion that in
little likelihood the, Senate will rescind iii House Resolution 138, as reported by
aiy action. ht idea think that w n orimi? tee amendme is which std ngth- in view of theereport thatithat orgae nniizaa--
earlier
ceWe are the best roag e odic,inally. en the resolution. tion had been conducting a widespread
a:lead. I the haa.fatc House Resolution 138 authorizes the and illegal operatic" in the late 1960's
that We e a the now Senate on ors s g gd with
gone and in th^ early 1q"n's and that it had
this morning that on yesterday the senia Select Committee on Intelligence to con- and t keeping lyes on 10,000 Americans
Senator from Idaho, the chairman o duct an inquiry into the collection and hake unit reporting o ng ,0 Der cans
that committee, has announced he wil'; use of intelligence information and al- by We eachldnit repo our oversight the rsight authoror,
to coordinate the work of hi, legations of improper and illegal activi- we sh tuld ma ercis
committee with the work ai any commit- ties of intelligence agencies in the United in s ter.
tee suggested by this Hous?' to avoid thi States and abroad. The resolution au- And there were tii.e other reports that
duplication
e carries out that pledge-and I have the procedures and effectiveness of review tiwere given on about domestic xbreak- break-ins andc
If h wire
no reason to doubt that he will--perha>~ 5 dination between the various intelligence tappings and covert mail inspections .
some of the duplications and the xreedlers components of the U.S. Government. The Certainly I think that this entitles us--
more
ine whether
expensdeter
than avoided that might; be iii=:ur-red can be orm otttheie isl a also
i Q d fornimproved or d tes our concern-to exert se our sups -
avoided.
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visory role, our oversight authority in
this area.
I cannot help but recall for the Mem-
bers of this body, as I did for the mem-
bers of my committee, that it was 12
years ago, in the` 88th Congress, that I
sponsored a resolution for a joint com-
mitter;. Our now absent colleague, at that
time the gentleman from New York, Mr.
Lindsay being the principal sponsor, I
felt then and I feel now that a committee
specifically devoted and charged with the
responsibility of oversight in this area is
necessary and is important.
But having said all of that, it seems to
me, as I read this particular resolution,
that it grants the most sweeping au-
thority imaginable. There is literally no
Federal agency, as I read this legisla-
tion,' that would be entirely immune
from a probe because it gives no deft-
nitioi7. of "intelligence."
In section 3 it lists all of the agencies
that were mentioned a moment ago by
the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. MUR-
PHY). These include all great depart-
ments of the Government like the De-
partment of Justice and the Department
of the Treasury, even the Energy, Re-
search and Development Administration,
as well as those intelligence agencies
with which we are more familiar, the
Q1Pyy the FBI, the Defense Intelligence
Agency, and all of the defense intelli-
gence components of the Departments
of the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force.
This is sweeping authority indeed, and
it. seems to me that we have to be very
careful that we do, therefore, make the
terms of the investigative effort so broad
and so all-encompassing, without any
'Zoundarles,,wh tsoever, that we get into
tly mirk andh morass of investiga-
tive ctivity that would cost untold hun-
dredS,of.tlaausando, even millions, of dol
lars and yet not be productive of the kind
of recommendations that we hope will
come out of this committee if it is created
and out of the committee in the Senate
It is for that reason, not because I
oppose the idea that we have a legitimate
oversight function with which we ought
to be concerned, that I have circulated
these four amendments and commended
them to the membership of this body,
with the hope that . they would adopt
them today as amendments to House
Resolution 138.
First of all, I want to refer to the one
that would provide for a five and five
membership on, the committee. This res-
olution will follow otherwise the rule of
the Democratic caucus, which provides
for two-thirds plus ,one as the ratio of
Democrats to Republicans on this
committee.
This is not a legislative committee.
Whatever justification the Members on
this side of the aisle may have for such
a rule in the House caucus as it applies
to legislative committees, it should not
apply to a select committee investigating
one of the most delicate, sensitive areas
that could possibly be encompassed
within the scope of any congressional
investigation.
I make no blind, blatant charges of
partisanship over here. I make no
charges that anyone is out on a fishing
expedition designed to embarrass the
past administration or the present ad-
ministration, because this problem ex-
tends back for many years into adminis-
trations both Democrat and Republican.
At least since the time, I believe, of,
John F. Kennedy there has been increas-
ing involvement, apparently, on the part
of the CIA particularly and perhaps
other ii "efl1 ence agencies of the Federal
Government as well, in some of these
activities, both covert and overt, that
have stirred recent alarms. Therefore,
I think that it is a bipartisan problem.
It ought to be approached in a biparti-
san fashion, and I would hope, therefore,
that in establishing ratios on this com-
mittee, we would not be bound by some
standard rule as it deals with the ordi-
nary legislative committee.
Let me point out one specific example.
In the last Congress, when we set out to
investigate the operations of this Con-
gress-and what could be nearer and
dearer to our hearts than that? And more
sensitive, really, to our individual role
as legislators, than the operations of this
body? We did not establish that com-
mittee with a partisan ratio. We estab-
lished it under the chairmanship-and
the very able chairmanship-of the gen-
tleman from Missouri (Mr. BOLLING) on
a 5-to-5 ratio, 5 Democrats and 5 Re-
publicans. They went very thoroughly,
for almost 18 months, into all of the
ramifications and operations of this
House and its committees, and came up
with a very excellent report.
I think a bipartisan committee can do
the same kind of job if they are allowed
to function in a truly bipartisan manner,
as I have suggested.
Second, I think that the fact that
there is no price tag on this resolution
makes it defective; that, just as the Sen-
ate did in its resolution, it provided $750,-
000 as an expense budget, and a $100,-
000 subceiling budget for outside con-
sultants. It makes good sense to do, that
in this resolution. If the committee finds
that it is going` to have to expend more
funds than it can come back an'd get an
additional authorization, am sure, for
additional expenditures. But let us not
start out with what the gentleman from
Maryland was worried. about a few min-
utes ago so that we get into the kind of
boundless investigation that just prolif-
erates in all directions at once, because
there is absolutely no ceiling at all on
the expenditure of funds. I hope that
amendment when it is offered will have
your support.
Third, instead of waiting until next
year, until the end of January, let us
give, it a September 1 reporting date. Let
us coordinate our activities with the
activities of the other body. The senior
Senator from Idaho, as I said a few
minutes ago, said that he is willing to
coordinate his efforts and give their re-
port by September I. 'So it makes sense
to me that we have a similar reporting
date so that we can work in tandem with
that comittee, then, and better coordi-
nate the activities of the two Houses in
this area.
dealing with the very important matter
of specific safeguards for protecting clas-
sified materials.
There is some very general language
in the resolution dealing with, this sub-
ject, and it merely says that the com-
mittee shall establish rules as they deem
necessary to prevent unauthorized dis-
closures of information and testimony.
I would suggest that better language
would be language identical to that in
the Senate resolution. I have taken that
language exactly as it was passed in the
other body, providing that the committee
shall set up specific procedures to clear
individuals, to provide them with the
necessary security clearances before they
deal with these very sensitive and, I am
sure, highly classified materials.
There is nothing very radical about the
proposals I have made. I think they will
give us the sense in this House that we
are moving in a bipartisan and very or-
derly fashion in coordination with the
activities of the other body so as to get
on with the needed business of deciding
what went wrong, if it did go wrong and,
more importantly, what we can now do
to recommend a better and more con-
tinuing type of oversight of the intel-
ligence community in the future.
So I hope the Members will support
the amendments that I have described
when they are offered, when we debate
this under the 5-minute rule, and with
those amendments I think we will be able
to get on with the very important task
that has to be dealt with.
Mr. MYERS of Indiana. Mr. Chairman,
will the gentleman yield?
Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. I yield to
the gentleman from Indiana.
Mr. MYERS of Indiana. Mr. Chairman
I think no one would disagree about the
oversight authority and responsibility
this House has, so far as that oversight
pertains to amendments and changes in
the law and in the statutes, and also so
far as responsibility as to how funds ap-
propriated by this Congress are spent as
respects various activities, but I am not
at all sure that it is intended by the over-
sight responsibility to limit them to that.
Does the gentleman foresee the pos-
sibility that this oversight select com-
mittee might get into the policymaking
duties of the various agencies?
Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. No, I do
not think it would attempt to do that.
We would have to physically decry any
effort to interfere with the legitimate
intelligence-gathering functions.
The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gen-
tleman has expired.
Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. Mr. Chair-
man, I yield myself 3 additional minutes.
I do not think there. is any disagree-
ment-or, I hope there is not any wide-
spread disagreement-with the proposi-
tion that we need an intelligence service
in this country to properly guarantee our
national security. Agencies of the kind
'that are listed in this resolution-the
Defense Intelligence Agency, the FBI, the
-.all are needed. It is a question,
however, of making sure that they carry
out that intelligence function in a way
that does not unconstitutionally violate
individual rights of Americans here at
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them in activities that are re=:ily nonger-
mane and alien to the true intelligence
function.
Mr. MYERS of Indiana. Will the gen-
tleman yield further?
Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois,. I yield to
the gentleman from Ladiana.
Mr. MYERS of Indiana. I thank the
gentleman for yielding.
If I understand his response, there is
absolutely no intent to give this select
committee the authority to influence
policymaking by any of the agencies,
that they will have the responsibility
overall, but it is simply to limit the au-
thority to oversight as to Ani ricaus and
funds used; is that corect?
Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. I want to
be very candid with the gentleman. I
cannot assure him that they will not
make recommendations that in effect
would deal in the policy area or with
the policymaking function of ;here agen-
cies, but let me remind him that this
committee has legislative author':
T Ides canna pass on any tur 9. A1I"t?x
can do is report to us, I" hope, ay Septem-
ber 1, 1975, and make recommendations
which we as a full House would then act
upon.
Mr. BAUMAN. Mr. Chairman, will the
gentleman yield?
Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. I yield to
the gentleman from Marylatd.
Mr. BAUMAN. I thank the gentleman
for yielding.
There are at least seven different
standing committees that have some sort
of jurisdiction over intellige:ice activi-
ties in the House. I have heard rumors
that, regardless of what the :louse may
do in creating a select committee, some
of these committees or the subcommittee
chairmen will proceed with collateral in-
vestigations of the same issue.
Does the gentleman have any informa-
tion about any plans to at least try to
consolidate all of these investigations,
or are we going to go off in all different
directions at once for whatever purposes
the individual committees involved may
have?
Mr. ANDERSON of Iliinoii;. My per-
sonal hope would certainly bf that dur-
ing the period that this select committee
is functioning, if it is establi;;hed, there.
would be a moratorium on a lot of in-
vestigative activity by these other sub-
committees. Obviously. I am x of in a po-
sition to speak, however, for the gentle-
men who might be in a position to con-
tinue to assert that jurisdiction.
Mr. BAUMAN. If the gentleman will
yield further, there is, however, notsting
in this resolution that says Sc'?
Mr. ANDERSON of "zilinois. No. There
is nothing in here that specifically says
there is a moratorium.
Mr. GIAIMO. Mr. Chairman, will the
gentleman yield?
Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. I yield to
the gentleman from Connecticut.
Mr. GIAIMO. I thank the gentleman
for yielding.
d_ to_pro-
iihi jinn any ~. xis ting le 'T`t lve
tttao- ee w `eh
?r~~iiiv1s lirt4nn in this area- po
rinrt~nv ~te.n+~->y 's'he gentleman is rigs
There are about seven committees or sub-
committees that do have an Involvement
or a partial involvement. Possibly only
one could have the overall jurisdiction to
cover all aspects.
For example, some have jurisdiction
over the FBI.- others have jurisdiction
over the CIA, et cetera. It is designed
that these committees will continue to do
what they are empowered to do under
the existing rules of the House.
This committee Is designed to look at
several factors primarily: Is there sub-
stance to the allegations of wrong-
doing?
Should there be recommendations for
changes in the methods in which the
v: arious intelligence services are condilct-
ing their activities-things of that type?
It would not be to usurp the powers of
the existing committees or subcommit-
tees.
The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gen-
tleman has expired.
Mr. MURPHY of Illinois. Mr. Chair-
man, I yield 7 minutes to the gentleman
from Connecticut (Mr. GIAIMO).
(Mr. GIAIMO asked and was given
permission to revise and extend his re-
marks.)
Mr. GIAIMO. Mr. Chairman, let me
explain to the Members why we are ap-
fearing here today on this resolution to
establish a Select Committee on Intelli-
gence. There has been a growing belief
among the Members of Congress and
among the public at large that all is not
well with the Intelligence agencies of the
United States or that all may not be
well and a growing concern that Con-
gress should exercise to a greater degree
than it has Its oversight function.
We are intending to maintain a good
and adequate Intelligence service for
the United States. We are equally de-
termined to assure the rights of the citi-
zens of the United States so that these
rights will not be infringed in any way
by anyone, and particularly by Federal
intelligence agencies.
ire ham been yKgy del toes allega-
ttctns of possiltle wrongdo_i~non the part
ne in`j enre agen 1es, do not
know w I sC".8, ' j't iI _are true
ell bfit hilt. We ertainly fee tSat
rte: i ASS L4 h absoluU to EIIIE_a_ion
__ ii
9
riutu tofhe A afar cal]`poop a to look into
itandi ,rorMpg. Ifs nnc+ t '14'f-'f1]fl tr n
?~
in rlw rminr =hq,zth r there IS any flierit
t.n_t't~Pen n. a lls of wrongdoing.
Beyond that, many or-M-ese Intelli-
gence agencies have been in existence for
many, many years, some from before
World War II, and some of our ma.ior
ones certainly came into prominence
right after World War II. Their means of
e.onducting their activities developed in
those years, particularly in the late 1940's
and early 1950's. Are these activities still
proper ones? Are they still wise ones in
which those agencies should he involved?
Should we, for example. conduct covert
operations, in the same way in which we
have been doing? This is another area of
=nvestigation by this select committee.
Therefore, it was the feeling of the
averwhelming majority of those Mem-
hers of the majority party In their caucus
that a committee of the Congress should
took into this entire matter of activities
of the intelligence agencies. We do not
deny to the Executive the right to set en
the Commission which they have to look
Into the allegations of Impropriety, no='
do we intend to prej clge the work an;i
the recommendations of that Carrmis-
sion. But certainly as the executive
branch has the right te: oversee those ac-
tions, very clearly the,'ongresss also does.
and this is what we intend to do today.
We have many committees which have
jurisdiction. For Instance, the Commit-
tee on the Judiciary hfc; jurisdiction ove'
the FBI. and the Committee on Armed:
Services has jurisdiction over the CIA
and the Committee on Banking and Cur
rency has jurisdiction aver the Treasury
and Internal Revenue There are man"
committees. The A pprc' riations Commit-
tee also has a function here. But I doubt,
whether there is e.ny one committee the
has overall jurisdiction and can look a f.
all the intelligence branches of the U.S.
Government, with the possible exception,
and I say with the possible exception, o'
the Government Operations Committee
It may have.
Be that as it may. there has been
growing feeling among the overwhelm-
ing majority of Members that there
should be a per se Intelligence Commit-
tee to look Into thr e allegations Of
wrongdoing.
I myself would havw- preferred a joint
committee. I am sum that many of w
would have, and I am sure the gentle-
man from Illinois (11i. ANDERSON) rec-
ognizes that as a practical matter the
other body has already begun with its
select committee and `here is very little
hope of having a joint committee. Ini-,
dentally, iLwaz well be that one of the
rp_m?nandatiolls
,xuigbtA
ported if we are serious in our
have a single inteilsive inv. stigation ill Mr. ANDE of ino s. vould me u
Foreign Relations, ArmQ
the place of several duplicative, noncom say to the gentleman that I will offer an fairs and
prehensive inquiries. amendment on the sub.ect he has raised Services and Appropriations-we will be
. inslly the folly tll_-.6ndex',~'Onamend- and specify that rules and procedures better able to folio.'- , on a conz nu ,s
must be adopted by the committee that basis what is being done by our 4orei ii
,nt~ h rh cpt.s _ }~ 1, I$ia, are designed to prevent the disclosure intelligence; apparatz. J.
~lvarll nP for th select cononmimittir: ?Trt? outside of the committee of information Mr. iNWWRSON of I" nois has poi ed i -'-
rar tpO We akek know now that the e"Sl t that is not authorized to be disclosed, in introducing II.R.t 1, creating Jo _-?
committee phat on Srst date-and and, furthermore, to establish security Committee on Intelligence, and I hc?e
ommiteetwill re i-lo are shr>uld al o-Ji- clearance requirements for individuals consideration of sirC l legislation will be
I believe that the :riod on res who will be handling the sensitive mate- forthcoming during this session. Unl:ss
the it appro of a coordinated hese tail, ? rials. we have a perman.-iit vehicle instit il-
suah these important is I would agree that they are more sen- tionalizing supervision over this a. pecL -
v an , the proble'n will
sueses. . No o responsible Meis deadline would olr sitive, perhaps, than some of the mate- governmental activb
on of further if i rials that were before the Committee on return to trouble us in the future..
pose warranted by s
but for now, it is most impo tat to strivt the Judiciary in the recent impeachment Mr. KASTEN'M E Mr. Chairman. I
but for now, it ost and ccx) nnao strive inquiry. But all kinds of materials will rise in support of House Resolution `3?
quiry for an into expeditious the m~:iiaandturbir?~, allegation alltedgatioi~ in be dealt with in this committee. to create a Select Committee on Intel-
which have been made. Mr. Chairman, it is essential that we ligence.
co3 g .hp 1 of aim coon that tvh
bm.x - ;.:t1 ~.. the m= m. , . O ' w m.
mF Ed 1 t. Mr. Chairman, as
sponsor of legislation ire both the pre
vious and present Congress to create a
Joint Committee on Intelligence, I rise
in support of House Resolution 131 es-
tablishing, a Select Committee on Intel-
ligence.
I will vote for this bll with some
givings as I do not feel it is the most
preferable way to apps ach the problem.
Few would deny that the reports and al-
legations involving illegal CIA and other
foreign intelligence activities demand
the closest examination. It is question-
able. I feel, whether the House sl..ou"c,
undertake to duplicate much of the >amc
investigative inquiry which is already
being done by the President's commis-
sion and the Senate panel. The proper
course ft rr Congress to have taken in this
matter would have been to create a johiT.
House-Senate committee rather than the
two separate efforts we will have should
House Resolution 13?: pass. The Hours
should be involved firsthand in an ex_-
aminatian of what has been done. and
for this reason the bill before us should
pass.
'I'lre need for some form of on gotn
oversight mechanism is not satisfied by
the existence of thew: several groups, as
important as their immediate objects
are. I believe we will Mill need to have a.
permanent bony with the authority
monitor what is happening in tht. ar4a.
of foreign intelligence operations. Right
now that authority is fragmented and.
for practical purposes, nonexister t 1.y
bringing together la one comraittE.e
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While I. have indicated, through my time since the central Intelligence ligence community will, in the long run,
spolisorship of House Concurrent Res- Agency was created in 1947, signaling the undermine the security of this Nation
olution 18, tl}e, 14rg-range congressional uncontrolled growth of secret intelli- and its citizens.
need for a, perzuanent joint House-Sen- gence activities In the executive branch, The Select Committee on intelligence
ate oversight couunittee on intelligence the House will have established an ef- can play a major role in the preservation
actlyitles, I believe it is essential that we fective mechanism to scrutinize ques- of our "national security" In this broad
immediately begin an investigation of tionable intelligence operations. sense. While I regret that It has taken the
the costly and little known segments of As one of the original sponsors of the House so long to recognize the need for
the Federal Government, our intelligence Select Committee proposal, as well as a this committee, I commend the Democra-
agencies, and measure their activities member of the ad hoc committee which tic leadership for finally supporting this
against their respective charters. unanimously recommended this resolu- much needed reform. I urge passage of
The creation of a select committee to tion, I wish to summarize my under- this resolution so that the select commit-
exam:ine the specific agencies, as well as standing of the nature and scope of the tee can begin its long-overdue investiga-
the overall conduct and responsibilities proposed select committee's authority. tion of the intelligence community.
of the entire intelligence community is The committee-'s major task will b - to
-an important undertaking. Such an in- reco itn wha.te ?pr ne.w le 'sl ion an, Mhave n of Ilti er qu Cllaior
quiry is long overdue. The demands that and man, I have no further requests for
oYexsilrht structLrec Grp needed to5- time.
the house .assume its responsibility for s?re that int ntgp.,ce aaencles ar . n_
overseeing the Intelligence agencies, Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. Mr. Chair-
which operate largely in secrecy, can no able to wi ot In n dare accotmt- man, I have no further requests for time,
longer be ignored, nreg This necessary y re- The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read.
quires a reconsideration of the policies The Clerk read as follows:
Obviously the Nation needs effective and assumptions underlying present in- Resolved, That (a) there is hereby estab-
criminal.survelilace programs. No one telligence practice. It requires careful lished in the House of Representatives a
seriously disputes, this. and there is no investigation into all intellegence ac- Select Committee on Intelligence to con-
one in the Congess who would work to- tivities, particularly those that have re- duct an inquiry into the organization, op-
ward undermining the effectiveness of suited in the illegal political operations erations, and oversight of the intelligence
our Intelligence agencies in the perform- abroad or In violations of the civil lib- community of the United States Govern-
ance of their necessary and legitimate erties of American citizens. Finally, it ment. shall functions, xmuires an pvs+.lnation of the pas (e) The select
ers of the House be c em-
However, It Is the responsibility of f Gtiyenesa of Hrn,sp intelli rnr 'or_ posed of ten Members of ed House of Rp- peaker in resentatives nsultato be appointed
the ch it the of thus ,
the Congress to define the legitimate slgH+ o_ *??t_,tp?s;n icpa+,;na t
Intelligence activities, establish guide- c_.,e& ,nlthin legal h.,,,,,.ag s~1- with the chairmen of thos-
. The select COm- standing ing committees having current juris-
lines for the, conduct of, such operations mittee proposed today would have au- diction over intelligence matters. The
and insure that sucli, guidelines are en- thority to accomplish these tasks. Speaker shall designate one of the Members
forced.. We have,, evidence of military My support for the select commit- as chairman.
agents spying on. civiliaiys. It has been tee stems. in large part from my belief (c) For the purposes of this resolution
acknowledged that the C became in- that existing controls on intelligence ac- the select committee is authorized to sit
volve(i In domest ic. s e ce. ,i- tivities, particulalry on the-.IA,, have presen present sessions Congress s the whether House and nott the the
ore iolls.congression he House
been wholly inadequate. Specifically, the has recessed or adjourned. A A majority of the
CIA's secret nroeram in (bile to de members of the select committee shall con-
nformation irons Sf hilizpth? Allende eovernmp~~~ha e stitute a quorum for the transaction of buss-
~,,. e ii - yet to be subjected to searching con- ness except that the select committee may
~:www suss c au ori . gressional Inquiry. Likewise, the extent designate a lesser number as a quorum for the
These, are matter w 1011 must e v. o domestic surveillance has not purpose of taking testimony.
and thoroughly explored. been fu y examined. The House Select COMMrrTEE AMENDMENT
As recent test4n.pny before the House Committee on Intelligence would be im- The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will re-
Judiciary Subcommittee of which I am powered, along with its more general port the first committee amendment.
chairman indicates, the surveillance investigations, to explore these particu- The Clerk read as follows:
techniques of domestic intelligence lar intelligence activities.
agencies are equally worth of scrutin f amendment: On page 1, line
y y Y. It is important to realize that Intel- after ter the the wor ord "Speaker" insert a period and
d
We have, evidence that warrantless ligence policies and covert operations are strike out all after the period through the
wiretaps were conducted for as long as not established without official actions at word "matters." on page 1, line 10.
25 y, ear$. We have. admissions that the the highest levels of the executive branch. The committee amendment was agreed
FBI monitored some 40 phone calls be- any complete study of the intelligence
tween one Detroit lawyer and his clients. to.
nni
We have evidence that the Secret Serv- p m~ an" AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. ANDERSON Or
tee had access without legal process to isms within the executive branch, es- ILLINOIS
eciall the National Security 0 3Zici1,
very revealing telephone toll records. We r initiating and cnn .rnlhng intpll' en M1'? ANDERSON of Illinois. Mr. Chair-
Chair-
yhave information that the FBI used "'- These matters will -~on- man, I offer an amendment.
private bank and credit records without surely con- The Clerk read as follows:
tern the Select Committee on Intelligence
any legal authority. We have reports of with its subpena power, the committee Amendment offered by Mr. ANDERSON of
FBI spying on Members of Congress and would be able to obtain valuable testi- y 11 ands: a page e? strike lines 6 thwing:
domestic political groups including ac- mony from all executive branch officials and insert le lico three shall following:
tual disruption of political associations. who deal with intelligence policy. (d) The select committee shall of Chairman, we have reached a posed of ten Members the House f
T+ hoc Upon yvarnerl in dpha+e ove rthis resentatives to be appointed b the S raker
aker
point where- the public's confidence in ly Y p
ronosal that nerd t,
chn?tA +Rtg "_ as follows: (1) five from the majority party,
the Nation's law enforcement agencies is nrn t o j-the "na innnt won? ? a +~ is and (2) five from the minority party after
legitimately shaken. A thorough house . I a ree. H consultation with the minority leader of the
cleaning of the intelligence community tr,s countrv'a cpruri v porn House. The Speaker shall designate one of
will go a long way toward restoring that tnnnh on the maintenanre of a rnt of the Members as chairman."
confidence. w as it does on f (Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois asked and
I urge adoption of House Resolution It is threatened just was given permission to revise and ex-
188 and the speedy selection of the House as seriously by a misguided covert inter- tend his remarks.)
Select Committee on Intelligence. vention abroad as it is by insufficient in- Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. Mr. Chair-
Mr. IIAIRRINGTON. Mr. Chairman, telligence gathering and analysis. "
the re?olutia . to c, pate a House Select tinal security" means mueb n ~" composition sthis
iti n of the select select specifies that the
Committee Qr Intelligence represents a mere aGalj,ece b
noe by rang h completely s with shall
vital first step toward making this cIatms n npnpce,? , ,, : be completely bipartisan, with five Moro-
Nation's intelligence community ac- rs from the majority party and five
.clal.~ Such an abdication of b congressional from the minority party. The resolution
countable to the Congress for the first responsibility and control over the Intel- as reported contains no specific refer-
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ence to the partisan makeup o the com- to 1 or 10 to 0 undess we spell out the
n;ittee, but it was made clear ir. our Rules ratio as to the members of the commit-
(ommittee hearings that the Democratic ee; is that correct?
C;,'ucus rule of 2 to 1 plus 1 w>uld apply Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. Mr. Chair-
to the select committee as well. That Hari, the gentleman is quite correct. But
~vould mean, on a 10-,member committee n fairness to the other side, `I want to
such as this, there would be 7 Democrats ?,ay that they made it quite clear in their
and only 3 Republicans. testimony in the Committee on Rules
Mr. Chairman, I think it Is especially ;.fiat a 7 to 3 ratio is what they intended.
important that this committee-having This was the decision of the task force
uch broad authority to Probe such sensi- ppointed by the Democratic Policy
Live areas spanning Republican and 3teering Committee after it had been
Democratic administrations alike-that ?eferred to that group by the Democratic
this committee be completely bipartisan J aucus. Therefore, I am satisfied that
a o that there is not one hint of partisan- at is going to be 7 and 3 unless we adopt
ship. I think we should recall that in the vhis amendment.
last Congress we created a bipartisan I think, nevertheless, that the reasons
select committee of five Democrats and i have given are good and sufficient rea-
five Republicans to investigate this ions why we ought to specify an even
House and its committees. Th it commit- division in the membership of the com-
tee worked quite well together, and orittee.
unanimously reported d comprehensive Mr. GIAIMO. Mr. Chairman, I rise in
and constructive product. IT; put par- opposition to the amendment.
tisanship aside and acted in what it con- (Mr. GIAIMO asked and was given
sidered to be the best interests of the permission to revise and extend his re-
House. It would seem doubly important marks.)
that we adopt this nonpartisan approach t Mr. GIAIMO addressed the Commit-
to investigating the intelligence com- 4 ea. His remarks will appear hereafter in
munity so that the committee will act hi the Extensions of Remarks.]
the best interests of the tour try. Mr. McCLORY. Mr. Chairman, I make
I would also point out that our own the point of order that a quorum is not
House Committee on Standards of Offi- rcial Conduct is completely bipartisan, present.
The CHAIRMAN. Evidently a quorum
with six Demoncrats and six Republi- T
is Tot present.
cans. If we feel we should be nonpartisan The Chair announces that he will va-
t
d
uc
in investigating and policing he con
gate proceedings under the call when a
w House Members, it should n a follow that quorum of the Committee appears.
ve would want to o nonpartisan i n inc Members will record their presence by
estigating and policing our g domestic electronic device.
ctr
and foreign intelligence communities-
call was
an even more delicate and sensitive area.
taken by electronic
The Senate select committee on Intel- device.
(iuORIIM CALL VACATED
ligence has a nearly bipartisan i- The CIi,' IRMAN. One hundred Mern-
publicans, with six Democrats and five five Re-
publicans, despite the fact that the hers have appeared. A quorunf of the
majority party has a 3-to-2 ratio in that Committee of the Whole is present. Pur-
body. suant to rule XXIII, clause 2, further
I have reviewed the numerous resolu- proceedings under the call shall be con-
ted
d
.
as vaca
tions referred to our Rules Committee sidere
which would establish either House se- The Committee will
i'tt son intelligence business.
to establish a select committee. It is this
institution which I& golr:g? to conduct the
oversight and the investigation of the
alleged innapairmem of 'lie rights of in-
dividual citizens, by mason of illegal,
immoral, and unethical activities alleged
to have been carried c-;t by the intelli-
gence-gathering agencies and, conse-
quently, it seems to m:: that we should
do this in a responsiblr-, objective man-
ner through the establi, iment of a select
committee which will he even balanced
between the majority 1=nd the minority
parties.
I want to assure those who are oppos-
ing this amendment on the other side of
the aisle of our sinterft interest on this
side of the aisle of doing the kind of
thorough job, not onl;; with respect to
this administration, but with respect to
prior administrations, and we do not
want to have any cove up of any earlier
activities, which certainly could result,
if the control is there and the political
interest is there, to protect and to cover
up with respect to an e"-rlier administra-
tion. Consequently, I believe that If we
are to be truly biparti_~.an and truly ob-
jective and truly responsible to the
American people in catrnection with this
select committee. we should support
overwhelmingly the amendment offered
by my colleague, the gentleman from
Illinois (Mr. ANDERSON).
I hope the House v =1l give that kind
of support to this amendment.
Mr. RHODES. Mr. chairman, I move
to strike the requisite number of words,
(Mr. RHODES asked and was given
permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. RHODES. Mr. ( =iairman, the gen-.
tleman from Illinois (1M1r, ANDERSON) has
offered four amendments, all of which
I think would be a ? rest improvement
to this bill. I axn particularly interested
in the amendment which would change
the composition of the committee so that
it would be equal be?:ween the parties.
Select committees, without legislative
authority, should be bpartisan. They are
customarily evenly, or nearly evenly
divided between the 1. arties and I think
this precedent follow:td in both Houses
should not be abando red.
I recognise the ab :icy of the Demo-
cratic side, and o< the Democratic
caucus, to impose :,.s will upon the
House. It Las the vo os to do it, and if
it wants to do it, it certainly can, but
I ask the Members on my right to think
ahead to the possible time when the
majorities might be cifferent, and I ask
them if they think it would be a good
idea for a select committee to be set up
by this body which would be seven to
three.
I also auk the if they think it Is a
good idea to change precedent so that
the majority party is KLu complete control
of something which is as sensitive as the
investigation of the intelligence divisions
of our Govwi,-nexit t(? lay. It seems to nca
that this is such a sensitive operation,
such a sensitive area. that the Members
of the majority party would be well
served if a comniitt ce to perform this
very delicate task w( re to be just as bi-
partisan as any bodily could possibly
make it.
icct or Joint comm Almost all of them, introduced by Re- Mr. McC:`LOORY. Mr. Chairman, I move
publicans and Democrats alike, would to strike the requisite number of words,
have either a bipartisan or nearly bi- and I rise in support of the amendment
partisan composition. offered by the gentleman from Illinois
And yet, here we have s resolution (Mr. ANDERSON).
drafted in the Democratic Steering and (Mr. McCLORY asked and was given
Policy Committee which would revert to permission to revise and extend his re-
the old partisan ratio of 2 to 1 plus on(,. marks.)
I can understand that such a proposal is Mr. McCLORY. Mr. Chairman, it
to be.expected from one of the partisan seems to me that if the majority :party
organs in the House. But we are now wants to act in a responsible and a bi-
a -ting as an institution-no?; as Republi- partisan manner, they can achieve that
cans or Democrats-but as Members of end through the acceptance of this
Congress interested in doing what amendment. I might say that in support-
right for the country and in doing it the ing the general thrust of this resolution
right way. And I would suggest that we and the establishment of a Select Com-
must act on a matter of this importance mittee, I am just a -interested In the
and sensitivity in such a wf.Y that there activities of such a select committee as
not even be the appearance of partisan- any Member on the other side of the aisle.
ship connected with this investigation. I I think there is the suggestion or the im-
urge adoption of rely amendment. plication in this 7 to 3 ratio which sug-
Mr, McCLORY. Mr. Chairman, will gests this is going to be a partisan at-
the gentleman yield? tack and a partisan effort. Certainly par-
Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. I yield to tisan control of this activity should not
tine gentleman from Illinois. be patterned after a legislative function.
Mr. McCLORY. Mr. Chairman, acct I think the Integrity of this institution,
ally the resolution before us does not the House of Representatives, is in-
provide for any ratio; it provides for r- volved in this very amendment, because
10-member committee, and it could lx this institution is the one which is going
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vogue in this Congress, and again that
is the prerogative of the majority party
to make it so if it desires to do so. But
I .also suggest that this investigation is
necessary. I agree that it.is. I am,pleased
that it is going to be done, by a select
committee instead. of by various other
committees in which there would be
overlapping investigations made. That
part of it I agree with completely. But
it seems to me the people, the citizens
of the Republic, would feel much better
about the whole thing and would feel
much more confident about the findings
of this committee--that there would not
be a witch hunt-if the members of the
committee were evenly divided between
the parties.
So, Mr. Chairman, I speak for all of
the amendments offered by the gentle.
man from Illinois, and I particularly
address myself to the one involving the
content of the committee.
Mr. BRODHEAD. Mr. Chairman, I
move to strike the requisite number of
words, and I rise, in opposition to the
amendment.
(Mr. BRODHEAD asked and was given
permission to revise and extend his
remarks.),
Mr. BRODHEAD, Mr. Chairman, it
seems' to me that the amendment to
make this committee evenly divided be-
tween the two parties would have the
effect of to be trying to reverse the re-
sults of the last election. If the people
wanted the responsibilities to be divided
5O-5o between the two parties they would
have voted that way. They did not. They
voted two-thirds for one party and one-
third for the, other. I do not understand
why the minority is trying to obstruct
the work of this HQuse by offering such
an amendment with respect to this
committee..
The CHAIRMAN. The question is on
the amendment offered by the gentleman
from Illinois (Mr. ANEEasON).
The question was taken; and the
Chairman announced that the noes ap-
peared to have it,
RECORDED VOTE
Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. Mr.
Chairman, ,I demand a recorded vote.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic de-
vice; and there were--ayes 141, noes 265,
not voting 26, as. follows:
[Roll No. 171.
AYES--141
Abdnor
Carter
Erlenborn
Abzug.
d
Cederberg
Each
An
erson, Ill.
Clancy
Eshleman
Andrews,
N
Dak
Clausen,
Fenwick
~
oh
.
Don 11.
Findley
Cleveland
Fish
Armstrong
Cochran
Forsythe
Ashbrook
Cohen
Frenzel
Bafalis
Collins, Tex.
Frey
Bauman
Conabl
e
Gilman
Beard, Tenn.
Conlan
Goldwater
Bell
Conte
Goodling
Bennett
Coughlin
Gradison
Biester
Crane
Grassley
Breckinridge
Daniel, Robert
Gude
Brooraneld,
W., Jr.
Guyer
Brown, Mich,
B
Derwinski
Hagedorn
rown, Ohio
_ Devine
Hammer-
Broyhill
B
Dickinson
Schmidt
uchanan
Duncan, Tenn.
Hansen
Burgener,
du Pout
Harsha
Burke, Fla.
B
Edwards, Ala.
Hastings
utler
Emery
Hobert
Heckler, Mass. McKinney Shriver
Heinz Madigan Shuster
Hinshaw
Holt
Horton
Hutchinson
Hyde
Jeffords Myers, Ind.
Johnson, Colo. Myers, Pa.
Johnson, Pa. O'Brien
Kasten Peyser
Kelly Pressler
Ketchum Pritchard
Kindness
Lagomarsino
Latta
Lent
Lott
Lujan
McClory
McCloskey
McCollister
McDade
McDonald
McEwen
Michel Smith, Nebr.
Miller, Ohio Snyder
Mitchell, N.Y. Spence
Moore Stanton,
Mosher J. William
Qule
Quillen
Railsback
Regula
Rhodes
Rinaldo
Robinson
Rousselot
Ruppe
Sarasin
Schneebeli
Sebelius
Steelman
Steiger, Ariz.
Steiger, Wis.
Symms
Thone
Treen
Vander Jagt
Walsh
Wampler
Whalen
Whiteurst
Wiggins
Winn
Wydler
Wylie
Young, Alaska
Young, Fla.
NOES-265
Adams Florio Melcher
Addabbo Flowers Metcalfe
Alexander Flynt
Ambro Ford, Mich.
Anderson, Fountain
Calif. Fraser
Andrews, N.C. Fuqua
Annunzio Gaydos
Ashley Giaimo
Aspin Gibbons
AuCoin Ginn
Badillo Gonzalez
Baldus Green
Baucus Haley
Bedell Hall
Beviil Hamilton
Bingham Hanley
Blanchard Hanna ford
Blouln Harkin
Boggs Harrington Murphy, Ili.
Boland Harris Murphy, N.Y.
Bolling Hawkins Murtha
Bonker Hayes, Ind. Natcher
Bowen Hays, Ohio Neal
Brademas Hechler, W. Va. Nedzi
Breaux Hefner Nichols
Brinkley Helstoski Nix
Brodhead Henderson Nolan
Brooks Hicks Nowak
Brown, Calif. Hightower Oberstar
Burke, Calif. Holland Obey
Burke, Mass. Holtzman O'Hara
Burleson, Tex. Howard O'Neill
Burleson, Mo. Howe Ottinger
Burton, John L. Hubbard Patman
Burton, Phillip Hughes Patten
Byron Hungate Patterson, Calif,
Carney Ichord Pattison, N.Y.
Carr Jacobs Pepper
Casey Jenrette Perkins
Chisholm Johnson, Calif. Pickle
Clay Jones, Ala. Pike
Collins, Ill. Jones, N.C. Poage
Conyers Jones, Okla. Prayer
Corman Jones, Tenn. Price
Cornell Jordan Randall
Cotter Karth Rangel
D'Amours Kastenmefer Rees
Daniel, Dan Kazen Reuss
Daniels, Keys Richmond
Dominick V. Koch Risenhoover
Danielson Krebs Roberts
Davis Krueger Rodino
de la Garza LaFalce Roe
Delaney Landrum Rogers
Dellums Lehman Roncalio
Dent Levitas Rooney
Derrick Litton Rosenthal
Dingell Lloyd, Calif. Rostenkowski
Dodd Lloyd, Tenn. Roush
Downey Long, LA. Roybal
Drinan Long, Md. Runnels
Duncan, Oreg. McCormack Russo
Early McFall Ryan
Eckhardt McHugh St Germain
Edgar McKay Santini
Edwards, Calif. Macdonald Sarbanes
English Madden Satterfield
Evans, Colo. Maguire Schauer
Evans, Ind. Mahon
Evins, Tenn. Mann
Fascell Mathis
Fisher Matsunaga
Fithian Mazzoll
Flood Meeda
Meyner
Mezvinsky
Mikva
Milford
Miller, Calif.
Mineta
Minish
Mink
Mitchell, Md.
Moakley
Moffett
Mollohan
Montgomery
Moorhead, Pa.
Morgan
Schroeder
Seiberling
Sharp
Shipley
Simon
Sisk
Slack
Teague
Wilson
Smith, Iowa
Thompson
,
Charles H
Solari
Thornton
.,
Calif.
Spellman
Traxier
Wilson
Staggers
Tsongas
,
Charles
Tex
Stanton,
Udall
,
.
Wirth
James V.
Ullman
Wolff
Stark
Van Deerlin
Wright
Stephens
Vander Veen
Yates
Stokes
Vanik
Yatron
Stratton
Vigorito
Young
Ga.
Stuckey
Waggonner
,
Young, Tex.
Studds
Waxman
Zablocki
Sullivan
Weaver
Zeferetti
Symington
White
Taylor, N.C.
Whitten
Barrett
Foley
Passman
Beard, R.I.
Ford, Tenn.
Riegle
Bergland
Fulton
Rose
Biaggi
Jarman
Schulze
Chappell
Kemp
Skubitz
Clawson, Del
Leggett
Steed
Diggs
Mills
Talcott
Downing
Moorhead,
Taylor, Mo.
Eilberg
Calif.
Wilson, Bob
So the amendment was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced
as above recorded,
The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read.
The Clerk read as follows:
SEC. 2. The select committee is authorized
and directed to conduct an inquiry into-
(1) the collection, analysis, use, and cost
of intelligence information and allegations
of improper activities of intelligence agen-
cies in the United States and abroad;
(2) the procedures and effectiveness of co-
ordination among and between the various
intelligence components of the United States
Government;
(3) the nature and extent of executive
branch oversight and control of United
States intelligence activities;
(4) the need for improved or reorganized
oversight by the Congress of United States
intelligence activities;
(5) the necessity, nature, and extent of
overt and covert intelligence activities by
United States intelligence instrumentalities
in the United States and abroad;
(6) the procedures for and means of the
protection of sensitive intelligence informa-
tion; and
(7) such other related matters as the se-
lect committee shall deem necessary to-carry
out the purposes of this resolution.
COMMrrTEE: AMENDMENTS
The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will re-
port the next committee amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
Committee amendment: On page 2, line 12,
after the word "of" Insert the words "il-
legal or".
The committee amendment was
agreed to.
The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will re-
port the next committee amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
Committee amendment: On page 3, line 2,
strike out the word "and" and insert the fol-
lowing :
"(7) procedures for and means of the pro-
tection of rights and privileges of citizens of
the United States from illegal or Improper
Intelligence activities; and"
And renumber the next paragraph accord-
ingly.
The committee amendment was
agreed to.
The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read.
The Clerk read as follows:
SEC. 3. In carrying out the purposes of
this resolution, the select committee is au-
thorized to inquire into the activities of
the following:
(1) the National Security Council;
(2) the United States Intelligence Board;
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(3) the Fresidcat's Foreign Intelligence propriate security clearance as determined will. But as a bare iiiinimum, I -think
Advisory Board; by the select. committee. The typo of security these safeguards should be clearly stated
'I) the Central intelligence. Agency; clearance to be required in the case of any
) y: by the full House. Given the nature of
5) the Defense Intelligence Agency. .uch employee or person shall, within the de- the investigation, we cannot abide any
((6) the intelligence components of the i,ermination of the $elect committee, be coni- leaks esti tio fro this Committee.
Depittinents of the Army. Ni.vy. and Air niensurate with the sensitivity of the chaasi-
Force; led information to -hich such employee or Recent past experiences with staff leaks
(7) the National Security A!,ency; oer.;on will be given access by the select should be sufficient in impressing on.
(8) the Intelligence and Research Bureau committee. us the need for this body to make the
of the Department of State; '(c) As a condition for employment as de- concerns and desires of the full House
(9) the Federal Bureau of investigation; ice bed in section 5 of this resolution, each membership explicit In this regard.
(10) the Department of the Treasury; person shall agree not to accept any honorer- The conduct of this investigation wiill
(11) the Energy Research -nd Develop- Sum, royalty, or other payment for a speak- be a reflection on the entire House, and
ment. Administration; and ing engagement, magazine article, book, or
(12) any other inatrumentiblties of the other endeavor connected with the invests- as such, we must accept full responsibility
United States Government ei gaged in or gatiori and study undertaken oy this com- now for insuring that the investigation
otherwise responsible for inters Bence opera- mittee." , does not become eithc:?r a Roman circus
inns in the United States and abroad. TvMr. ANDERSO" of Illinois (during or a sieve for national secrets. I urge
COn:ntrrTEE ANIENDMSNT the reading). Mr. Chairman, I ask unani- adoption of my amendment.
The CHAIRMAN. The Ci,_rk will re- mous consent that further reading of the Mr. MURPHY of Illinois. Mr. Chair-
port the last committee amendment. amendment be dispensed with and that limn, will the gentleman yield?
The Clerk read as follow, : it be printed in the RECORD. Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. I am
Committee amendment: pace 4, line 1. The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to pleased to yield to the gentleman from
the request of the gentleman) front Illi- Illinois (Mr. MURPHY) .
strike out the semicolon and acid the follow -
ing: "and the Department of Justice;" no;a Mr. MURPHY of Illinois. Mr. Chair-
man, in a spirit of democratic coopera-
The committee amendment was agreed te. Mere was no objection.
The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read. (Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois asked and lion, our side will accept the gentleman's
The Clerk read as follows: was given permission to revise and ex- amendment.
The CHAIRMAN. The question is on
SEC. The select committee
the redirc,, tend his O the amendment offered by the gentle-
and subpena or otherwiserwise, the attendance Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. Mr. Chair- man from Illinois (Mr. ANDERSON). ---
and, testimony of such witnesses and the maYl,
production of such books, n:oords, corre- ~npthenine Gkie RLQylsiolyS,pf The amendment w`=:s agreed to.
ara' ANDERSON c k
spondence, memorandums, papers, and the resolution designed to nTDLec t-.Cl"- AMENDMENT oFi sED =
nS
documents as it deems necessary. Subpena' ELLIN
m~.~al I
may he issued over the signature of the Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. Mr. Chair-
member of the select committee or any would stress a the outset that this lan-
member designated by him, and may be guage is identical to that contained in man, I offer an amendment,
served by any person designated by the Senate Resolution 21 as adopted, estab- The Clerk read as follows:
chairman or such member. Thy chairman of lishing the Senate select committee on Amendment offered by W. ANDERSON of
the select committee, or any member design intelligence. As the resolution before us Illinois: On page 5, after line 2, insert the
nated by him, may adsninistei oaths to ant reads, the committee shall establish following new section and redesignate see-
witness. rules and Irocedures it deems tions 7 and 8 as sections 8 and 9, respectively:
SEC. 5. To enable the select committee to whatever "SEC. 7. The expenses of the select com-
mittee out the purposes of this resolution, ii appropriate to protect such informa- mittee under this resolution shall not exceed
is authorized to employ investigators, ac- tion. $750,000 of which amount not to exceed
torneys, consultants, or organizationz My amendment simply elaborates on $100,000 shall be available for the procure-
this by specifying that such rules and went of the services of individual consultants
thereof, and clerical, steno graphic, and
other assistance. procedures should be designed to prevent or organizations thereof. Such expenses shall
6. The select
such rules and and shall e procedures is e as tI lthe disclosure outside the committee of be paid from the contingent fund of the
andSEC. implement
House upon vouchers signed by the chair-
authorized may deem necessary to prevent the uis- ally information not authorized to be die- man of the select, committee and approved
authorized disclosure of information and closed by the committee, and to prevent m he the sell
tsetimony taken in executive Session or ob- , the disclosure of information which by t tained by other means. would adversely affect any of our foreign (Mr, ANDERSON of Illinois asked and
AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. ANDER.309 c)! J intelligence activities. was given permission to revise and ex-
r[.cSNOiS Moreover, the amendment requires that tend his remarks.)
Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. Mr the committee establish security clear- Mr. ANDERSON or Illinois. Mr. Cha.ir-
Chairman, I offer an amendment. ance requirements for staff people hav- man, this amendment simply sets an ex-
The Clerk read as follows: ing access to classified materials, as the pense ceiling of $750,000 for the select
Amendment offered by Mr. ANDERSON committee determines is commensurate committee, along with a subceiling of
Illinois: On page 4. strike lines 23 through with the sensitivity of the information. $100,000 for outside consultants and serv-
24 and on page 5 strike lines 1 and 2 and I finally, my amendment requires that, ices. As such, it is Identical to the Ian-
Stuinsert. in 6. lieu tThe eos the select ectoimmittee shalt as a condition of employment, staff peo- guage in the Senate-passed resolution.
carry out such rules les and pro- pie assigned to the committee, as well as In questioning witnesses on this matter
Institute and The
ce(?,res as it may deem necessary to prevent outside consultants working with the yesterday in Rules, no estimate was given
(1) the disclosure, outside tie select mu-, committee, agree not to accept any pay- on what the select committee might cost.
miitee, of any information )-elating to thin ment, royalty or honorarium for speak- The gentleman from Michigan, (Mr.
activities of the central Intelligence Agency ing engagement, book, article or other NEDzi) said he didn't think it would cost
or any other department or agency of thu endeavor in connection with his or her as much as the Senate investigation, de-
acderal Government engaged in intelligence
activities, obtained by the select committee work on the committee. Again, I would spite the fact that this is due to run 4
during the course of its study and Invests- stress, this language is identical to that months more than the Senate inquiry. It
getion, not authorized by tie select corn- contained in the Senate-passed resolu- was also stated that the amount would
n:ittee to be disclosed: and (2) the diselo- Lion. be negotiated with the House Administra-
sure, outside the select committee, of any Mr. Chairman, while I do not doubt Bari Committee.
ttLfor nation which would s.dversely affect
?.he mtelii.xeome at't,i";tips cif the Centsvl that any such committee would establish Well I do not like the idea of jumping
Intelligence Agency in foreign countries or necessary safeguards to protect sensitive into something without having any Idea
the intelligence activities in foreign coon- information, I think it is important that haw much it will cost. In the last Con-
tries of any other department or agency c?f we in the House impose some minimal. gress, when we established the Select
the Federal Government; guidelines and requirements from the Committee on Colrilnittee Reform, the
No employee of the e4 tell conunittre very outset in order to give guidance to resolution creating that committee, dS re-
;r any person engaged by co;stract or othe) the committee. There is certainly noth- ported from the Rules Committee, con
wise to perform services for the select con,- ing in this amendment which would pre- tamed an authorization level.
any elassiiiod
mince shall be given access o
information by the select committee antes elude the committee from adopting other There is no reason whatsoever why we
ciucte employee or person has received an al?- rules In this area, and I am sure they cannot set such a ceiling in this resolu-
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like to point out to the members of the
Committee that we have taken precau-
tions here to see to it that the select com-
mittee is limited in duration to the end
of this year, January 31, 1976. It is not
our intention nor our desire to perpetu-
ate the Select Committee on Intelligence
year after year after year. At the same
time-and I am sure that my good friend,
the gentleman from Illinois, will agree
with me-we want to assure the commit-
tee sufficient time to do a creditable job
and proper investigation in this area of
intelligence activities. We think that the
September deadline mentioned in the
amendment of the gentleman is not real-
istic. It gives very little time.
I recognize the fact that the other body
has selected that date. However, I would
say that the other body has already
passed its legislation. It has.a head start
of some weeks on this body and, quite
frankly, it is our opinion and that of
the cosponsors of this legislation that the
deadline date which the other body has
incorporated into this legislation will not
be sufficient to do a proper job, and my
guess will be that they will be extend-
ing theirs.
I do not think it is unreasonable to
'limit the duration of this select commit-
tee until January 31, 1976, and I ask
that the amendment be voted down.
The CHAIRMAN. The question is on
the amendment offered by the gentle-
man from Illinois (Mr. ANDERSON)
The amendment was rejected.
Mrs. FENWICK. Mr. Chairman, I move
to strike the last word.
(Mrs. FENWICK asked and was given
permission to revise and extend her
remarks.)
Mrs. FENWICK. I should like to ap-
peal, Mr. Chairman, to the Members of
this House, and most particularly to my
friends on the other side of the aisle. I
think we all know that patriotism rath-
er than partisanship is what must guide
us if we are to respond to what the peo-
ple told us to do In the last election.
There is more to it. I think an investiga-
tory body has to not only do justice but
be seen to do justice. I think that we
should rise to it. I hope very much, since
the section does not describe the mem-
bership of the committee, but leaves it
entirely to the generosity and the spirit
of bipartisanship of the Speaker and of
the leadership and of the great majority
of Democrats in this House, that per-
haps it could be at least 6-to-4, if not
5-to-5.
I know that my friends on the other
side of the aisle know that I speak in no
partisan spirit, but I think it would con-
vince'the people of this Nation that we
can rise above party, that we are ear-
nestly seeking the truth, that we are not
trying to go on witch hunts or hurt peo-
ple, but that we are trying to protect the
integrity of our institutions and the ur-
gent and necessary fact that the institu-
tions of government cannot be used for
personal or political reasons. All this
needs to be driven home, and I hope that
the composition of the committee will ef-
fect it.
I thank the Chairman.
The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read.
tion..Moreover, given thq potential scope the intelligence communities, then we
of this investigation, covering . as It does should act together as soon as possible
every agency of the Federal Government on doing this. There can be no excuse
having anythingg to' do with Intelligence- for dragging out the House investigation
and broadly d'elined, "intelligence" sim- 4 months beyond that of the Senate, and
ply. means Information gathering-I in the meantime delaying necessary and
think it is important at the outset that we possibly joint action on this problem. I.
establish an overall dollar ceiling so that would add, parenthetically, that I sus-
the committee will bd forced to set its pect a recommendation may be made to
priorities immediately and get on with establish a Joint Committee on Intelli-
the -most important aspects of such an gence Oversight, and, for that reason, it
investigation. I suspect that if the com- is imperative that we act promptly And
mittee did everything he, could do. under jointly.
its authority in this resolution, the in- Mr. Chairman, I know that argument
veitlgation could run for years and cost will be made that there is no way our
the taxpayers millions. As I mentioned in committee can carry out its assignment
-the Rules Committee, this could turn out under this resolution in just 6 months. I
to be the biggest fishing expedition since have no doubt that it could take from
.Moby Dick. I do not think that is what now until doomsday to do a thorough
most Members,pf this body want.,We are job of implementing its mandate. But of
.primarily concerned with the more glar- supreme importance, it seems to me, is
ing and disturbing allegations of illegal that this committee address itself to the
and improper Intelligence activities and most glaring and immediate allegations
.operations. And we want this. committee before it, and then turn over the rest to
to report back as soon as possible on a more permanent mechanism of the
what steps the executive and legislative Congress to continue with. This is what
'branches might take to strengthen their we should have been doing all along, and
control ,arid oversight over the intelli- I do not think we have to wait 11 months
gencg community. for a select committee to tell us that. We
- Mr. Chairman, justas other commit- should move as goon as possible to estab-
tees are required to report the expected -lishing such a permanent mechanism
cost of , programs they recommend, I and get on with the job.
think we have an obligation to require In conclusion, Mr. Chairman, ,I think
,the same of our own In-house activities this reporting deadline is in the best in-
,by setting such cost parameters. I urge terests of the Congress and the Nation
.adoption of ally amendment.' , in establishing within. the Congress a
Mr. MURPHY 'of Illinois. Mr. Chair- permanent mechanism for conducting
man, will the gentleman yield? continuing review and oversight of the
- Mr, ANDERSON of'Il inois. I am de- intelligence community. Let us move to-
lighted to yield to the gentleman from gather with the other body, on the same
Illinois. timetable and deadline in accomplishing
Mr. MURPHY of Illinois. Mr. Chair- that larger end.
;>n,:ln, in a further demotration of that I urge adoption of my amendment.
same spirit of conciliation and coopera- Mr. Chairman; I do not see the gentle-
tion, we will accept the amendment on man from Illinois, my colleague on the
this side. committee, rising, asking me to yield,
The CHAIRMAN. The question is on so I must assume that the same spirit of
the amendment offered by the gentleman conciliation and cooperation 'does not
from Illinois (1bfr. ANDERSON). prevail, on this fourth and final amend- '
The amendment was agreed to. ment that I offer to House Resolution
The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read. 13$, but I now yield to the gentleman
The Clerk read as follows: from Illinois in the hope that the gentle-
SEe. 7. The select committee is aut'iorized man has changed his mind after listen-
and directed to report to the House With re- ing to my remarks.
spent to the matters covered by this resolu- Mr. MURPHY of Illinois. Mr. Chair-
tion as soon as practicable but no later than man, I must say to my colleague, the-
January 31, 1976. gentleman from Illinois (Mr. ANDERSON)
AIWENDMENT OFFERED HY MR. ANDERSON OF
that the same spirit of conciliation and
II.LINOis cooperation that prevailed with regard
Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. Mr. Chair- to the other amendments does not pre-
n}an, I offer an' amendment. vail in regard to this amendment.
The Clerk read as follows: Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois. Mr. Chair-
Amendment QfYered by Mr. ANDERSON of man, I regret that the gentleman from
Illlnofs; 'On' rage 8, strike all of line 6 and Illinois .does not have the same feeling
insert in lieu thereof. the following: ,Sep- of conciliation and cooperation with re-
te:arber 1, 1975."
spect to this amendment, but, regardless
(Mr. ANDEI3SON,of Illinois asked and of where we stand on the political aisle,
was given permission to revise and ex- I would invite the support of the gentle-
tend his remarks.) man for the amendment because I con-
Mr.-ANDERSON of Illinois. Mr. Chair- sider that it is in the interest of getting
man, this amendment would change the the kind of an investigation that we want
reporting deadline for the select commit- on both sides of the political aisle.
tee from January 31., 1976 to September _ Mr. GIAIMO. Mr. Chairman, I rise in
1, 1975. Again, the deadline contained In opposition to the amendment offered by
my amendment, is identical to that of`the the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. ANDER-
Senate committee. And I think for a very soN).
obvious, and practical reason.. If both of 71Vtr. GIAIMO asked and was given
these committees will be making recom- ' permission to revise and extend his
improve and strengthen Its oversight of ' Mr. GIAIMO. Mr. Chairman, I should
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SEC. 8. The authority granted herein shall
expire three months after the fllinl, of the re-
port with the House of Representatives.
The CHAIRMAN. If there are no
further amendments, under the rule, the
Committee rises.
Accordingly the Committee rose; and
the Speaker having resumed the chair,
Mr. FLYNT, Chairman of the Committee
of the Whole House on the State of the
Union, reported that that Committee,
having had under consideration the res-
olution (H. Res, 138) establishing a
Select Committee on Intelligence, pur-
suant to House Resolution 174, he re-
ported the resolution back to the House
with sundry amendments adopted by the
Committee of the Whole.
The SPEAKER. Under the rule, the
previous question Is ordered.
Is a separate vote demanded on any
amendment? If not, the Chair will put
them en gros.
The amendments were agreed to.
The SPEAKER. The question is on the
resolution.
Mr. BAUMAN. Mr. Speaker, on that
I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic de-
vice, and there were-yeas 286, nays 120,
not voting 26, as follows:
[Roll No. 18]
YEAS-286
Abzug
de Is Garza
Heckler, W. Va.
Adams
Delaney
Heckler, Mass.
Addabbo
Dellums
Hefner
Alexander
Dent
Roth's
Ambro
Derwinski
Helsi oski
Anderson,
Dingell
Heno erson
Calif.
Dodd
Hightower
Anderson, Ill.
Downey
Hllli
Andrews, N.C.
Drinan
Holly nd
Andrews,
du Pont
lioltienan
N. Da.k.
Early
How;;rd
Annunzio
Eckhardt
Howr
Armstrong
Edgar
Hughes
Ashley
Edwards, Calif. Huni;ate
Aspin
Emery
Icho"d
Bodillo
English
Jacobs
Baldus
Erlenborn
Johnson, Calif.
BaucuS
Each
Johnson, Colo.
Beard, R.I.
Evans, Colo.
Jone. i, Ala.
Bedell
Evans, Ind.
Jone:;, N.C.
Bell
Evins. Than.
Jone:;, Okla.
Bennett
Fascell
Jones, Tenn.
Biaggi
Fenwick
Jordi;n
Btester
Findley
Kart:i
Bingham
Fish
East 'n
Blanchard
Fisher.
Kast;nmeier
Blouin
Fithian
Kazan
Boggs
Flood
Keys
Boland
Florio
Koc1"
Boiling
Flowers
Kreb3
Boater
Flynt
Lehman
Bowen
Foley
Litton
Ilradmas
Ford, Mich.
Lloyt'., Tenn.
3reaux
Ford, Than.
Long, La.
Breckinridge
Fraser
Long, Md.
Brodhead
Frenzel
Luja ;
Brooks
Frey
McClory
Broomfield
Fuqua
McCloskey
Brown, Calif.
Gaydos
MCCG,rmack
Brown, Ohio
Glaimo
McD: ,de
Broyhill
Gibbons
MCFr.il
Burke, Calif.
Gilman
MOE' igh
Burke, Mass.
Gonzales
McKay
Burlison, Mo.
Oradison
Mes. may
Burton, John L.Grasaley
Macdonald
Burton, Phillip Green
Madden
Carney
Glide
Madigan
Carr
Haley
Maguire
Chisholm
Hall
Mahon
lay
Hamilton
Nan at
Cohen
Hanley
Mat:, _inaga
Collins, 111.
Hannaford
Maz:?oli
Conte
Harkin
Heeds
Conyers
Harrington
Meh. -,or
orman
Harris
Metelfe
tter
Hastings
Mey; er
Daniels,
Ilawkins
Mezvinsky
Dominick V.
Hayes, Ind.
Mikva
Danielson
Hays, Ohio
Miller, Calif.
Davis
Hebert
Mineta
N!: inish Q?lie
N nk Ratisback
A:itchell, Md. Randall
A tchel1, N.Y. Rangel
N akley Rees
Ii offett Regina
Adlohan Reuss
&. :orhead, Pa. Richmond
Sad- organ R.ualdo
1t'.osher Ruenhoover
R^,-'oss Rodino
IV ottl
Saurphy, Ill.
N nrphy, N.Y.
A,,""urtha
N etcher
Nest
1V r dzi
nix
Nowak
Oberstar
t obey
"'Brien
O'Hara
O'Neill
Ottinger
1' ttman
Roe
Rogers
Ronealio
Rooney
Rosenthal
Rostenkowski
Roush
Roybal
Runnels
Rtuppe
Russo
Rvan
St Germain
Sarasin
$arbanes
Schauer
Patterson, Caltf.Sebroeder
i- attison, N.Y. Beiberling
I'pper
P'rkins
F'vser
P;ckle
I? ke
Pressler
P;?eyer
Price
P "i tchard
Sharp
Shipley
Slrriver
Billion
Sisk
Slack
Smith, Iowa
Solarr.
Spellman
NAYS-120
Staggers
Stanton,
J. William
Stanton.
James V.
Stark
Steelman
Stokes
Studds
Sullivan
Symington
Thompson
Thornton
Treen
Tson_;as
Udall
Ullman
Vander Veen
Vanik
Vigorito
Wampler
Waxman
Weaver
Whalen
Wilson,
Charles H.,
Calif.
Wilson,
Charles, Tex.
Wirth
Wolff
Wright
Yates
Yatron
Young, Alaska
Young, Ga.
Zablocki
Zeferotti
A dner Forsythe Nichols
A-cher Fountain Nolan
A ihbrook Ginn Passman
AaCoin Goodling Patten
Bafalis Guyer Poage
Bauman ~iagedorn Quillen
Beard, Tenn./ Hammer Rhodes
llavill schimidt Roberts
ilsinkley Hansen Robinson
Brown, Mich. Harsher Rousselot
ilxchanan Hicks Santini
liurgener Hinshaw Satterfield
I1-rke, Fla. Holt Schneebeli
Burleson, Tex. Hubbard Sebelius
Butler Hutchinson Shuster
li:ron Jenrette Sikes
C i rter Johnson, Pa. Skubitz
Casey Kelly Smith. Nebr.
}C derberg ][emp Snyder
C:ancy etchum Spence
C ausen, Kindness d/]telger, Ariz.
Don H. Krueger Steiger, Wis.
C,eveland LaFalce Stephens
t., iehran gomarsino Stuckey
C dins, Tex. O'Landruln Symms
1' riable Latta Taylor, N_C.
C?7nien Lent Teague
Cornell Levitas hone
t:,ughlin Lloyd, Calif. Van Deerlin
C: -s'ne Lott Vander Jagt
i a Amours M