JOURNAL OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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• Document Creation Date: December 19, 2016
• Document Release Date: January 13, 2006
• Sequence Number: 5
• Publication Date: June 27, 1972
• Content Type: NOTES

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OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Tuesday - 27 June 1972
1. (Confidential - GLC) During the morning Jack Ticer, Chief
Clerk, Senate Armed Services Committee, called. He said he had just
stepped out of a Committee meeting at Senator Goldwater's request to
raise with the Director personally the question of "If, in his opinion, SALT
eliminates the need for SAM-D? " I told Ticer I thought this was a question
which we would want to defer to someone else since we did not keep track of
US weapons programs. However, on the instructions of the Director, I
quoted the Director as saying "We in the Agency do not know what the current
specifications for SAM-D are. Therefore, reluctantly, we are not in a position
to have an opinion one way or the other or to be on one side or the other. "
Later in the day Ticer told me he had passed the Director's :message
to Senator Goldwater and commented Goldwater was not happy with the
Director's response and said he (Goldwater) hoped the Agency did not always
do business that way.
2. (Confidential - GLC) I called Leonard Killgore, Administrative
Assistant to Senator Barry Goldwater (R., Ariz.), and advised him of my
earlier conversations with Jack Ticer, Senate Armed Services Committee
staff. I told him we understood the Senator was not particularly happy with
the Director's response but tried to explain to Killgore that we did riot keep
track of US weapons programs nor were we in the net assessment business
and this is why the Director felt we could not state a position on this issue.
I underscored that we, in fact, do not have the specifications on Sam D.
Killgore explained he had attended committee hearings for Senator Goldwater
during his recent absence because of illness and that he and the Senator had
found only one instance in which a witness ever leveled with the committee
on SALT and this was in off the record statements made by Secretary Laird
on 6 June. He said all of this had left Goldwater quite exasperated with the
testimony that has been given and he wanted to go to the one man he felt would
give him an honest unbiased response. He said he appreciated the reasons
why the Director felt he could not answer the Senator's question but thought
it would be very useful if the Director called the Senator before his departure
from Washington on Friday and explained this to him personally. The Director
said he would give Goldwater a call in the next day or two.
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3. (Confidential - GLC) I queried Bill Jordan, Senator Proxmire's
Senate Appropriations Committee, Foreign Operations Subcommittee staff,
as to whether Alfred McCoy had provided the Subcommittee with material
which would back up the various allegations he had made in his testimony
on 2 June to the effect that US officials were condoning or encouraging
illicit drug traffic in Southeast Asia. Jordan directed me to Mr. Neilson
McGowan, of the Appropriations Committee staff, who made the unclassified
transcript with several supplements provided by McCoy available to me.
See Memorandum for the Record.
4. (Unclassified - GLC) Talked with Charles Kendrick, Administrative
Assistant to Senator Peter Dominick (R. , Colo.), and thanked him for his
efforts in the job that the Senator and members of the staff had done on the
amendment (No. 1257) to modify section 515 of the Foreign Assistance Authori-
zation bill (S. 3390).
6. ( Secret - GLC) Talked with Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate
Appropriations Committee, and asked him if he had had an opportunity to
review our proposed report to the Government Operations Committee on
S. 3529. Woodruff said he had not and asked that we check back with him
tomorrow.
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7. (Secret - JGO) Met with Mr. George W. Ashworth, Senate
Foreign Relations Committee staff, who asked if the Agency could provide
the Committee with a brief survey of weather modification in Indochina.
He said that this is a matter that Senator Pell (D. , R. I. ) has become quite
interested in and that he has requested staff assistance in developing the
question. I told him that with the exceptions of Senator Pell's short press
release over the weekend concerning alleged weather modification
of American forces over North Vietnam, I knew nothing of the modification
and recommended to him that he refer the question to the Department of
State. As a followon to last week's briefing he asked also if the Agency has
any information concerning the possibility or engineering capability of the
Soviets to increase the missile capacity of the Y-class submarine from
12 to 16 or more missiles.
8. (Secret - JGO) Met with Mr. Ralph Preston, House Appropriations
Committee staff, who told me that his time for this week and part of next
has been completely scheduled but he will meet with our people as soon as 25X1
possible. I briefed him on the following items: North Vietnamese offensive
toward Hue, action on the Bolovens Palteau, North Vietnamese concern over
support by allies, Soviet delivery of the Flogger to frontal aviation,
9. (Confidential - JGO) Met with Mr. Jack Sullivan, House Foreign
Affairs Committee staff, who told me with apologies thatthe Committee will have
to change the 25 July date for possible meeting with the Director on verification
of the SALT agreement. He will call as soon as the Chairman focuses on a
new date. Mr. Sullivan asked if we could have a transcript and I reminded
him that we have not had a transcript in the past in appearance before the
Committee. This point will require further discussion. The present schedule
of the Committee will be to have Messrs. Rogers and Laird on the first day
of testimony, Admiral Moorer and another military witness on the second, and
Mr. Helms on the third day to be followed by such members of Congress and
private individuals as may request to be heard. The DCI has been advised.
10. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Met with Mr. Richard Moose, Senate
Foreign Relations Committee staff, who told me that he has been working on
behalf of the Foreign Relations Committee with representatives of the Senate
Rules Committee and others concerning utilization of computer techniques.
He anticipates that the question of development of a vocabulary for Committee
use will arise within the next few weeks and asked if it could be possible to
meet with Agency personnel for informal discussion on the subject. Mr. Briggs,
OPPB, has been advised.
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12. (Unclassified - LLM) IFBIS, called to report a
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constituent request the Department of Commerce had received from the office
of Representative H. R. Gross (R. , Iowa) for copies of the supplement covering
the 23rd CPSU Congress. r _j advised that a copy of this material is
maintained by the Library of Congress but that FBIS does not have it on hand,
and said she will advise Commerce of this and offer our good offices to close out
this inquiry with the office of Representative Gross.
13. (Unclassified - LLM) Ray McRae, Minority Counsel, Subcommittee
on Intergovernmental Relations, Senate Government Operations Committee,
returned my call of the other day on S. 3529, Federal Advisory Committee, and
said that the former General Counsel, Winslow Turner, felt that our proposed
letter to Senator McClellan was fine and that we should be able to get the
requested exemption from the legislation.
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