JOHN STOCKWELL INTERVIEW/ANGOLA

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP91-00901R000500050045-2
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• Document Page Count: 2
• Document Creation Date: December 16, 2016
• Document Release Date: November 2, 2004
• Sequence Number: 45
• Publication Date: January 29, 1986
• Content Type: TRANS

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PROGRAM Evening Exchange
DATE January 29, 1986 7:00 P.M. CITY Washington, D.C.
John Stockwell Interview/Angola
KOJO NNANDI: ...Six years ago, according to one report,
Jonas Savimbi couldn't get an appointment with an Assistant
Secretary of State. So, who is Jonas Savimbi and why are we
suddenly showering him with attention, and maybe with money?
Well, that's a long story. In tonight's program we'll attempt to
tell as much of that story as possible, beginning with Mr.
Savimbi's history, and continuing in a second segment with a
discussion of Mr. Savimbi's present and his future.
For openers, we will say three things. First, that
Jonas Savimbi is head of UNITA, the National Union for the Total
Independence of Angola. Second, that the White House and the
Congress are both considering financial aid for UNITA. And
third, that opponents and proponents of those proposals say the
measures would give new meaning to the term constructive
engagement with South Africa, Mr. Savimbi's main backer.
Joining me for the first segment on the background to
the U.S. relationship with Jonas Savimbi and UNITA is John
Stockwell. He is former chief of the CIA's Angola task force,
also author of the international bestseller In Search of
Enemies: A CIA Story, a book in which he describes his
experiences in the CIA's Angola operation. This is the book.
Angola is a Southwest African territory that was
dominated and colonized by the Portugese in the latter part of
the 15th Century. The Portugese held on to it until the
mid-1970s, when after a revolution in Portugal the stage was set
for the independence of the Portugese colonies in Southern
Africa, Mozambique and Angola.
In the case of Angola, there were three major liberation
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to Star Wars scenarios. On the last weekend of 1985,
when the Nevada desert shook from an explosion
nearly a dozen times the power of the A-bomb
dropped on Hiroshima, the 150-kiloton detonation
was Part of research for nuclear-pumped X-ray
lasers for the Strategic Defense Initiative.
Reasons usually given for U.S. rejection of the
Soviet test moratorium are the stuff of nuclear-age
mythology.
Scientific means for clearly detecting underground
nuclear bomb tests, from many thousands of miles
away, have existed for years. And in December the
Soviet Union went on record with a promise to
permit on-site inspections of its testing grounds, to
provide for added monitoring of compliance with a
test ban treaty.
With the verification issue crumbling, the White
House fell back on claims that explosions are
necessary to test reliability of this country's existing
bombs. But several years ago a petition written by
former Los Alamos Laboratory director Norris
Bradbury and famed physicist Hans Bethe-and
endorsed by the Federation of American Scientists-
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'60s. In recent years a Utah-based grass-roots group,
Downwinders, has helped galvanize antiesting sen-
timent in the. region. The U.S. nuclear testing
Program _underground since the 1963 Limited Test
Ban Treaty is also encountering resistance from
former GIs exposed to radioactivity. director
Interna tiEarly Alliance onew f A omic Vthe eterans sp n the few day -
in a Nevada jail cell. Anthony G spent a few vat's
man at Bikini atoll atomic tests 40 ears' ag was
among more than 200 people arrested for civil
disobedience at the Nevada test site last year. He
accuses the Pentagon of "working in tandem with a
COMM military-nuclear-industrial complex" that is
eager "to perpetuate a new phase of a pork-barrel
nuclear arms race like Star Wars that is sucking our
economy dry."
Controversies over current nuclear testing do not
apply to weaponry scheduled for deployment be-
tween now and the year 2000. An immediate test
ban, for example, would not interfere with Trident II
submarines brandishing extremely accurate long-
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Fellowship of Reconciliation, an interfaith peace arms race into the 21st CeSturh Unless that eom-
organization based in Nyack, N.Y. will continue cont is abandoned, the Southern Nevada desert
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