BARRY FARBER SHOW

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP88-01350R000200590001-9
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
• Original Classification: K
• Document Page Count: 1
• Document Creation Date: December 16, 2016
• Document Release Date: September 20, 2004
• Sequence Number: 1
• Publication Date: November 23, 1970
• Content Type: PREL

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PUBLIC AFFAIRS STAFF
PROGRAM Barry Farber Show
FULL TEXT
STATION WHAL Radio
`Syndicated
Washington, D. C.
BARRY FARBER: I'm Barry Farber. And I'm prejudiced
in-favor of spy stories, fiction and nonfiction. I just can't
.think of a more exciting kind of fiction or nonfiction, and I'm
lucky-because I have the purveyors, the perpetrators, the preservers
of the best spy fiction, the best spy nonfiction, in the United
States..
As a matter of fact, like double agents they're equipped
.to turn on each other. And I expect to start by putting Andrew
.Tulley in the spotlight because of his latest revelation packed
inside'a book, "The Superspies." "The Superspies the inside
story-of NSA, America's biggest, most'secret, most powerful spy
agency.
I expect Noel Behn, author of "The Kremlin Letter."
"The Shadow Boxer," by Noel Behn, is the most recent nonfiction
in the field of fiction book on espionage (sic). Dr. Singer
is a slugger, a good middle weight slugger that everybody would
cone to pay the fee. Singer's editor of Saga.
You say inside "Superspies," Andy Tulle.y, that the CIA.
really doesn't finish last, like nice guys; but the CIA finishes
somewhere depressingly around the middle in terns of bigness,
in terms of budget, and in terms of influence; that there are
many other intelligence agencies that proliferate and are active
inside the United States' galaxy of intelligence services. And
I'd like you to discuss that, because this comes as new to a
lot of people. It's like saying the Holy Roman Empire was neither
holy nor Roman, nor was it an empire.
You say that the CIA is somewhere, you know, nondescript,
way down on the totem pole somewhere.' Tell us about it.
ANDREW TULLEY: Well, I don't think it's quite accurate
to say that the CIA finishes last or in the middle influentially.
The CIA is still pretty influential. But it's not the biggest
spy agency -It doesn't spend the most money And LLt isn't as
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