NO REASON FOR EXEMPTION OF CIA EMPLOYEES

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• Publication Date: May 11, 1971
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PROGRAM The Ten O' Cl ock News
10:00 PM
May 11 , 1971
STATION MG TV
Washington, DC
NO REASON FOR EXEMPTION OF CIA EMPLOYEES
JOHN WILLIS: Congressman Charles Wilson of California says he
sees no reason why employees of the FBI, CIA and National Security Agency
should be exempted from the Bill of Rights that he has proposed for federal
employees.
Under Wilson's proposal, workers for those agencies could be given
tests which ask personal questions only if the Director of the agency makes
a personal finding about the individual which may affect national security.
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Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel Page 3
Tuesday - 11 May 1971
7. Met with Mr. Drury Blair, Senate
Immigration and Naturalization Subcommittee staff, Senate Committee
on Judiciary, with regard to the Jucu bill (H. R. 3929). In brief, he
told me that at present the Committee does not need anything from the
Agency in support of the bill but that a copy of the report furnished the
House Committee, if available, might be useful. I told him I would get
a copy to him later in the week.
Al Tarabochia, Senate Internal
Security Subcommittee, called on behalf of an unnamed Senator interested
in whether Rennie Davis had met with North Vietnamese representatives
in Paris last September. I told Tarabochia that, as he well knows, we
do not keep track of the activities of U. S. citizens and suggested that he
contact the FBI.
9.1 1 Met with Senator Clifford P. Hansen (R. , Wyo.
and Sam Marler and William Thomson, of his staff, regarding a response
for the Senator to make to inquiries from the poet, Allen Ginsberg, concerning
allegations of CIA involvement in Southeast Asian drug traffic. The Senator
welcomed our suggestions for responding to Ginsberg, and agreed. to try
to obtain from the Bureau of Narcotics a statement which could be made
public in order to set the record straight.
10. l land I met with Representative
Morris K. Udall (D. , Ariz.) and explained our problems with the Ervin bill
guaranteeing the privacy of Federal employees. Mr. Udall seemed to under-
stand our problems, but offered no encouragement so far as our request for a
complete exemption was concerned.
Mr. Udall asked us to check into an individual in Tuscon who had been
involved in some shady activities, and who, according to the local press there,
was suspected of being a CIA employee. (See I Memo for RecorcJX1
11. Met with Thad Murray, in the office of
Senator William Spong, who wanted assistance in responding to a constituent
inquiry regarding allegations in the Jack Anderson column that the Agency was
involved in Southeast Asian drug traffic. Murray accepted my suggestions for
a response, and agreed to have Senator Spong ask for further details from the
Bureau of Narcotics.
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Monday - 10 May 1971
1, ictor Zafra, OMB, called to say they had
no problem with our revised letter to Senator Ervin on S.,1438.
2. Talked briefly with Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate
Appropriations Committee, about the upcoming hearings of the Intelligence
Subcommittee on the community budget and on the problem of closeout or
interim funding of the Radios pending action on the Case bill. Regarding the
Radios, Woodruff said this was a problem for State Department to worry about
and again emphasized that as far as he and Ellender were concerned there
would be no money for the Radios in the budget for fiscal 1972. He said he
would like to consider this our budget cut. See Memorandum for the Record.
3. I I Judy Morrison, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee staff, called for the transcripts of the Director's testimony on
28 October 1969 and 23 March 1971 for tomorrow morning. They are being
sent.
4. Met with Representative Frank Brasco
(D. , N. Y.) of the Hanley Subcommittee on Employee Benefits and explained
our position regarding legislation on the privacy of Federal employees on
which the Subcommittee is about to start hearings. Brasco said he fully
appreciated our proem but that he was experiencing heavy pressure from
his constituents in supporting the bill and wondered whether we couldn't
"finesse" the problem with some sort of compromise rather than a complete
exemption. I said we had made a diligent effort to do this at the request of
Senator Ervin but reluctantly concluded that it was not possible. Brasco
gave every indication of wanting to be helpful but said that in view of the
current clamor over the "invasion of privacy issue" started up by the press
and certain liberal members of Congress, he didn't know whether he could
get by with voting for complete Agency exemption or not. He said personally
he was fully behind us, and secretly agreed with the Vice President and
Attorney General on issues of this kind, but he couldn't say this to his
constituents.
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Monday - 10 May 19 71
5. I I Met with Representative Charles Wilson
(D. , Calif.) and gave him an outline of the effect of certain provisions of
H. R. 7199, Representative Wilson's bill on invasion of privacy of Federal
employees, and a short paper on factors affecting CIA personnel security
that were discussed with him on Thursday. Representative Wilson said
that he would review them and that we can be assured that he has no
intention of hurting the Agency. He noted in passing, however, that at
least at this time he is not disposed to consider a full exemption for the
Bureau.
Late in the day I received a call from Mr. Charles Gould, in the
office of Representative Wilson, who said the Representative wanted us
to know that he will be introducing his bill tomorrow before the Employee
Benefits Subcommittee of House Post Office and Civil Service Committee
without the amendments suggested in last Thursday's meeting and the
discussion this afternoon. He will wait and see how matters go before the
Subcommittee and consider possible amendments at a later date. I
thanked Mr. Gould for Representative Wilson's courtesy in keeping us
advised.
6. Met with Mr. Ralph Preston, House Appropriations
Committee staff, and discussed with him some of the suggestions for
surge funding of the Radios. In brief, it is Mr. Preston's considered
judgment that funding of the Radios under a continuing resolution would
terminate at the point or time when determination is made by either
Committee limiting or discontinuing the funding. As for reprogramming
by OMB of yearend defense funds, Mr. Preston knows of no such funds
that would be available without review and approval by the congressional
committees.
I briefed Mr. Preston on Salyut mission; Soviet H-III submarine;
Soviet forces in the Far East, ground and air; silo construction; Soviet
Mars launch; and 25X1
7. Talked to Mr. Arthur Kuhl, Chief Clerk, Senate
Foreign Relations Committee, who told me the transcript of the Director's
appearance of 5 May will be needed tomorrow for Committee use during
Ambassador Rountree's appearance.
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Monday - 10 May 1971
8. I I Talked to Miss Fran Christy, House
Immigration and Naturalization Subcommittee staff of the Committee on
Judiciary, who told me that the Committee will not be making formal
requests for reports ono a bill for the relief of
She would appreciate, however, a copy of whatever report was turnished
to the Senate Committee. Further action on the bill in Committee will
await the meeting to be arranged by the Committee Counsel, Mr. Cline,
for me with Representative Rodino (D. , N. J.) after Mr. Cline' s return
from Europe around 20 May.
Met with Mr. Richard Barton, House
Employee Benefits Subcommittee staff of the Post Office and Civil Service
Committee, who told me that Chairman Hanley, Mr. Hogan, Mr. Martiny
and himself had had an enjoyable visit at NSA today. He also suggested that
he wait until we have made our contacts with the various members of the
Subcommittee before he attempts final scheduling of a "Subcommittee
meeting" at the Agency.
10. Returned to Miss Angie Morris, Senate Foreign
Relations Committee staff, the classified documents that were held for
Mr. Lowenstein during his absence from the country.
11. In connection with possible pacifica-
tion hearings by the House Foreign Operations and Government Information
Subcommittee, spoke with staff members Vincent Augliere and Norman
Cornish and learned that, in all probability, the hearings will be open
session unless classified information is discussed and that the hearings
on pacification by the Subcommittee have not yet been given the green light.
has been advised.
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