ADDRESS BY ADMIRAL STANSFIELD TURNER

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• Publication Date: June 20, 1979
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Address by Admiral S~sfi.eld Turner
Director of Central Intelligence
Armed Forces Communications and
Electronics Association
Sheraton-Carlton House,
Washington, D.C.
Wednesday, 20 June 1979
Thank you very much Bob. This afternoon somebody in my office came
up and said, Stan, how did you happen to be giving this speech to AFCEA
tonight? I said I didn't have any choice, you see their Director of
Corporate Relations is Don Whitmire, I used to play football with him.
He was a great big husky all-American; I was a little 175 lb. guard. We
would line-up against some big team and there were only two things that
could happen to me on any given play. I could get creamed by the fellow
on the other side of the line, or I could make a mistake and get creamed
by Don Whitmire. And I'll tell you, I prefered the other fellow. So, I
have been saying aye, aye to Don Whitmire for 30 some years now and I
couldn't turn down this opportunity--that he asked me to be with you
tonight.
I understand you had a superb luncheon speaker yesterday, who is an
old friend and former boss, Senator Warner, and that he was kind enough
to say some nice words about me. I called him up today. I said, thanks
John, I have just one more favor to ask, would you mind changing your
name to Herblock.
I am indeed pleased to be with this particular association because
there is such a close association between you and your industries and us
in the intelligence community of our country. I believe that the challenges
facing you throughout your business life are very similar to those that
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happen to be besetting the intelligence community of our country today.
I would suggest that one of your first challenges is to adapt to the
events in the world around us which are, of course, changing all the
time. A second challenge you always face is to predict what science and
technology are going to bring forth and that you can make available to
your customers. And a third challenge, of course, is to anticipate what
those customers needs and demands are going to be in the years ahead.
Let me say, how admiring I am of the way in which you have, and continually
do meet those three challenges. They are similar to us, or for us, in
the intelligence busines of our country.
First, we qre are today I believe, having to adapt to a different
perception that the United States has of its role in the world. We
are secondly having to adapt to the much greater sophistication in the
techniques of collecting intelligence which you and others in related
industries are making available to us. Thirdly, we must adapt to a much
different attitude upon the public of this country that wants to know
more about the activities of its intelligence agencies than perhaps ever
before. I would like very quickly to discuss with you how we are trying
to respond to these challenges which are so similar to those which you do
respond to so well.
First, let me look at the changing perception the United States
has of its role in the world. We are, I believe, in a state of transition
in public attitudes towards foreign affairs, moving away from an activist
interventionist outlook to one which recognizes more clearly the limits
on our ability to influence events in foreign countries. We are not
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becoming isolationists. Quite the contrary. I believe that we are
gradually emerging from our post-Vietnam aversion to intervening on
the international scene in almost any way. We are entering today into
a national view of the world which is much more reasoned and balanced.
Clearly, the United States must continue to play a major role on the
world scene. What is different perhaps is that in today's circumstances
we must guage more carefully what that role can be and what that role
should be. For instance, look at the difficulty today in simply deciding
whom we are for and whom we are against in any international issue.
Traditionally, we always were in favor of the fellow that the Russians
were against. Today, things aren't quite that simple. In the last year
and a half there have been at. least two international incidents, conflicts
in fact, in which two communist nations were pitted against each other
and while the Russians were supporting one of them the other iri neither
case was a likely candidate to receive our support.
Beyond that, today, it is not nearly so clear that the United
States should take sides in every international issue even if the Soviets
are pressing for an advantage. The consequences of any nations succumbing
to communist influence is not as irreversible as perhaps we once thought.
Look back on Indonesia, Egypt, the Sudan, Somalia--all came under substan-
tial communist influence and all have returned to independence. Now what
this adds up to is not that we are impotent on the international scene
but that our leverage of influence, while still considerable, must be
exercised more subtly. We must be more concerned with long term influences
rather than just putting our fingers in the dike. And if we want to be
able to anticipate rather than simply react to events, we, in the intelli-
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Bence community of our country must be able to recognize and interpret
the underlying themes and forces which we can expect to exert influence
over time. For the intelligence world, for the intelligence community
this means a vastly expanded scope of our endeavors today.
For instance, 30 years ago our primary concern and focus in intelli-
gence was on Soviet military activities. Today we all recognize that the
threat to our national well-being comes not alone from the Soviets and
not alone from military matters; we must be equally concerned with
politics, with economics, with food resources, with population growth,
with narcotics, with international terrorism and with things like technology
transfer to name just a few. These are new areas of concern and they
represent the expanding areas of intercourse among nations with which we
must be concerned in an increasingly interdependent world. I know that
many of you, for instance, have had concerns and involvement in the
questions of technology transfer. While I have listed it here as a new
concern, I would point out to you that the first recorded instance of
technology transfer problems for our country was in 1622. Just south of
here, near Jamestown, a new colony of 200 settlers was almost wiped out
by an Indian tribe. The home company in England immediately dispatched a
ship with new military equipment so the settlers could defend themselves
against these Indians. They went to the Tower of London, they got body
armor and some of the most sophisticated crossbows of that day. When
they arrived near Jamestown they .handed out the body armor--wasn't much
use against Indians. Then they looked at these crossbows and they asked
the settlers what is the state of technology in the Indian tribes, and
they suddenly realized that to transfer to this continent the technology
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of a sophisticated crossbow was more than they could possibly risk and
they took them all back to England. That is a true story. So technology
transfer problems are nothing new today, though I would suggest today
that poor handling of technology transfer can have a much greater impact
on our country than that in the days of crossbows.
What I am trying to say is simply that there is not an academic
discipline, there is not a geographical area of the world in which
we in the intelligence community can afford not to be well-informed
if we are going to serve our policy makers well. Thus, this is a more
demanding time perhaps than ever before for our intelligence community
and it is a time of vast expansion of the subject matter with which
we must be intimately concerned.
Now the second trend bringing change upon is the technological
revolution in the ways that we collect information. It is a revolution
that I hardly need detail to this audience. It is thanks to you, of
course, that our national capabilities in the technical area our unequaled
in the world today. They are unequaled in overhead photography, they are
unequaled in the world of signals intercept. Interestingly, however,
rather than denigrating the role of the other form of intelligence
collection, the human intelligence agent or the spy, these burgeoning
capabilities in photography and signals intercept in fact heighten the
importance of the human intelligence element. The more information that
our technical systems provide to us the more questions are raised.
Generally speaking, a photograph or a signals intercept tells us something
that happened somewhere, sometime in the past. When I adduce that to a
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policy maker the question usually is, Stan, why did that happen and what
does it mean is going to happen next. Discerning the intentions, the
plans, the incentives of foreign individuals or foreign nations is the
forte of the human intelligence agent.
Thus, today our challenge is not only to be able to absorb and
to utilize the vast new quantities of technically collected information
but also to be able to pull all of that effort together--the effort from
photographs, from signals and from human agents into an orchestrated
complementary manner so that we can acquire for this country the informa-
tion it needs on the international scene at minimum risk and minimum
cost. Now I am sure this sounds very logical and very simple to you, but
as you all well know intelligence in our country is spread over a vast
bureaucracy. It is lodged in many departments and agencies, each with
its own particular priorities and concerns. We can no longer absorb and
process this flow of technically derived intelligence efficiently if we.
adhere to our traditional, compartmented, parochial ways of doing business.
So, we have seen some fundamental restructuring to accommodate these
changes. For instance, a year and a quarter ago President Carter signed a
new Executive Order which gave to the Director of Central Intelligence
new authority over the budgets of all the national intelligence organiza-
tions and authority to direct the way in which they collect intelligence.
These processes of settling down and developing a true teamwork between a
myriad of agencies and bureaus and organizations is still in the process
of evolving. But, it is having a very substantial effect on the whole
intelligence appratus of our country.
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The third element driving change today is the increased public
attention to intelligence activities ever since the several investigations
in the period 1974 to 1976. Those investigations brought to American
intelligence more public attention than has ever before been brought
to bear on a major intelligence organization. The impact could not help
but be substantial and frankly within the intelligence community it has
been traumatic. The right kind of public attention can be beneficial
both to us and to the American public. By the right kind I mean visibility
vrhich gives the public access to information about the general way
in which we go about our business and why we are doing it; and which
also confirms that the controls which have been established over the
intelligence community are being exercised as they were intended to
be exercised.
To achieve this kind of right visibility, the intelligence community
today is trying to be more open. We are passing more of the information
which we gain and produce to you, the American public, through unclassified
publication of our studies. We look at an analysis or an estimate that
we do and we ask ourselves, if we take out from that that information
which would disclose the sources by which we obtain that knowledge and if
we take out that information which because our policy makers have a
proprietary exclusive on it and is of particular value to them, will
there be enough substance left and is the topic of adequate public
importance that we should publish it. If the answer is that it would
help enlighten American debate on important topics to this country, we do
so in unclassified form. In addition to this, we are answering questions
from the press more; we are speaking in public more as I am privileged to
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do with you tonight; we are participating more in academic conferences
and symposia.
I know that your intelligence community is doing an honorable and a
vital job for our country and it is doing it well. I personally want you
to know as much about it as is compatible with our being able to continue
to do that job well. Still, some of the visibility that we have received
in recent years is definitely unwanted. Unwanted because it benefits
neither Americans nor our friends and allies. Here, of course, I am
talking primarily about the unauthorized disclosure of information that
has been properly classified. At the least these disclosures have
demoralized an intelligence service that has traditionally and of necessity
operated largely in secrecy. Far more important though is the destructive
effect that such disclosures can and do have on our ability to do what we
are mandated to do by the President and the Congress. No foreign country
or individual will entrust lives or sensitive information to us if they
do not believe tive can keep our secrets. It is impossible to carry out
the quest for information in a society like that of the Soviet Union, if
what we do and how we do it is ultimately found to become public knowledge.
In short, these improper revelations damage our country's long term
ability to know what is going on in the many closed societies around the
world. Yet, let me hasten to add that in my view this increased visibility
that I have been mentioning is a net plus. We do need the understanding
and the support of the American public; and we do need to avoid possible
abuses. Yet, at the same time we must recognize that with visibility
there are also minuses. There are inhibitions on the actions we will
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take, on the risks t at we can take. The issue before our country today
is how much assurance does the nation want against invasions of privacy
or against the possible taking of foreign policy actions that could be
considered unethical. How do we balance these desires for privacy and
propriety with the resulting reduction in our intelligence capabilities
and our covert action potential.
Congress is expected to give expression to this issue of balance
shortly. It will do so through the enactment of what are known as
charters for the intelligence community. Charters which set forth
our authorities, tell us what we are authorized to undertake, establish
the boundaries within which we must do that, and create the oversight
mechanism for checking on our activities. It is my sincere hope that
this Congress will pass these charters during this present session.
Written with care and sensitivity to the kinds of problems I have been
discussing with you, charters could help to resolve some of these funda-
mental difficulties. Overreaction either by tying the intelligence
community's hands or by creating no controls whatsoever would be a
mistake. On the one hand, emasculating our necessary intelligence capabil-
ities, on the other hand inviting abuse.
After all these comments please let me assure you that in my view
the intelligence capabilities of our country are strong and sound today.
The intelligence community is undergoing substantial change and that
is never an easy or a placid process in a large bureaucracy. Out of
this present metamorphosis is emerging a new intelligence community. One
in which the legal rights of our citizens and the controls and restrictions
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on intelligence activities will be balanced with the necessity of gaining
information essential to our foreign policy. This is not an easy transition.
We are not there yet, but we are moving safely, swiftly and surely in
the right direction. When we do reach our goal, we will have constructed
a new model of intelligence, a uniquely American model, one tailored to
the laws, the mores and the standards of our society. As we proceed
toward this goal in this period of transition which will probably
require another two or three years, we will need your understanding an
support. For that reason I am grateful to have had this opportunity to
be with you tonight. Thank you again for letting me be here and for all
you do for us, God bless you.
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ARMED FORCES COMMUNICATIONS AND ELECTRONICS ASSOCIATION
Publishers of SIGNAL-Official Journal of the AFCEA
Skyline Center
5205 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church, Virginia 22041
Area Code [phone]
Office of the Director
Central Intelligence Agency
Wahington, D.C. 20505
June 14, 1979
Enjoyed our conversation this morning and am enclosing a
copy of the Head Table list for the .AFCEA Banquet as we discussed.
The following points are to confirm our discussion:
- Dress - Black Tie formal
- Head Table Reception - 7:00-8:00 pm - Delaware Suite, Sheraton
Park Hotel
- Dinner - 8:00 pm - Sheraton Hall, Introduction of Head Table
Guests at Walk-On by V/Adm Jon Boyes, USN(Ret.), President of
AFCEA
- Introduction of Adm Turner - Approximately 8:45 pm following
Dinner, by Mr. Robert Gradle, Vice President AT~T and Chairman
of AFCEA.
- Mr.s Turner - will be seated with other Head Table Wives and
be escorted to her table by R/Adm and Mrs Don ?"lhitmire.
- Expected Attendance - Head Table Reception-100 people
- Dinner-1450 people
- Press Coverage - Local and technical media expected
- Audio Tape - ?"dill be done by Hotel and copy can be furnished
to you by Ms Judy Shreve
- Parking - Two car parking reserved in front of Sheraton Park
Hotel for Adm Turner
I am pleased to learn that you and will accompi~~TINTL
Adm and Mrs Turner. I will have dinner ticce s or you both and pass
them at~~"~the~Reception.
Lawrence E . Adams
Brig. General, USA (Ret.)
Executive Vice president
V \/
Communications-Electronics-Command and Control-Computer Sciences
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BANQUET HEAD TABLE
JOHN A. HOLLANSWORTH
Vice Press ent General Manager, Government Systems Division,
Western Union Telegraph Company
REAR ADMIRAL MILTON J. SCHULTZ JR. U.S. NAVY
eputy Director or Tactical C Systems, Organization of the Joint Chiefs of
Staff
CHARLES M. DENNY
Press ent, ADC Telecommunications Division of Magnetic Controls Company
EUGENE F. MURPHY
STATIf~Lesi ent, RCA Global Communications, Inc.
erector o ommunications, Central Intelligence Agency
EMANUEL FTHENAKIS
Press ent, American Satellite Corporation
MAJOR GENERAL WILLIAM I. ROLYA U.S. ARMY
Comman er, U.S. Army Intelligence an Security Command
GEORGE J. MEALEY
Press ent, Cincinnati Electronics Corporation
DOCTOR HARRY L. VAN TREES
Principal Deputy, Assistant Secretary of Defense for C3I
JOHN H. SIDEBOTTOM
Vice Press ent, Washington Operations, Raytheon Company
MAJOR GENERAL CHARLES R. MYER U.S. ARMY
Assistant C ie o Sta or Automation and Communications, Dept. of the Army
DANIEL J. FINK
Vice Press ent ~ Group Executive, Aerospace Group, General Electric Company
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BANQUET HEAD TABLE
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THE HONORABLE WILLIAM F. BOLGER
Postmaster General, Unite States Postal Service
LAURENCE J. ADAMS
rest ent, Martin Marietta Aerospace
VICE ADMIRAL SAMUEL L. GRAVELY JR. U.S. NAVY
erector, a ense Communications Agency
ROBERT H. MITCHELL
Senior Vice Presi ent F, Group Executive, Aircraft Systems Group, E-Systems, Inc
DOCTOR GERALD P. DINNEEN
Assistant Secretary o Defense for C3I
THOMAS A. CAMPOBASSO
Presi ent, Electronics International Operations, Rockwell International Corp.
ARTHUR A. COLLINS
Presi ent, Art ur A. Collins, Inc.
COLONEL EARL F. VAUGHN U.S. AIR FORCE
Sensor aplain, Arlington, Unite States Air Force
ROBERT E. GRADLE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD AFCEA
Vice rest ent, Government Communications, merican Telephone ~ Telegraph Co.
ADMIRAL STANSFIELD TURNER U.S. NAVY (RET.)
Director, en ra Intelligence Agency
DOCTOR JOSEPH A. BOYD.
C azrman an ie Executive Officer, Harris Corporation
THE HONORABLE WALTER B. LABERGE
Un er Secretary o t e Army
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DOCTOR JOHN L. MCLUCAS
Executive Vice Press ent, International Communications and Technical Services,
Communications Satellite Corporation
THE HONORABLE JAMES H. QUELLO
Comm- i s oner, Federal Communications Commission
DONALD 0. KISER
enior Vice President ~ General Manager, Electronic Systems Group,
GTE Sylvania Incorporated
DOCTOR ROBERT J. HERMANN
Special Assistant or Research, Development and Logistics to the Acting
Secretary of the Air Force
C. ANTHONY CHAPMAN
Press ent, Racal Communications, Inc.
LIEUTENANT GENERAL THOMAS M. RIENZI U.S. ARMY
Deputy Director General, NATO Integrate Communications Systems Management
Agency
ROBERT P. HENDERSON
rest ent, HRB-Singer, Inc.
LIEUTENANT GENERAL PHILIP D. SHUTLER U.S. MARINE CORPS
Director o Operations, Organization o t e Joint C ie s of Staff
BERTRAM B. TOWER
C airman o t e Board, ITT World Communications, Inc.
MAJOR GENERAL (P) HILMAN DICKINSON U.S. ARMY
Director o Comman , Control an Communications Systems,
Organization of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
EARLE C. WILLIAMS
Press ent, T e BDM Corporation
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MAJOR GENERAL JAMES M. ROCKWELL U.S. ARMY
ir~ctor, Joint Tactical Communications 0 fice, TRITAC
JAMES R. MELLOR
Presi ent an Chief Operating Officer, AM International, Inc.
MARK K. MILLER
ice rest ent, Systems Acquisition, The Boeing Aerospace Company
MICHAEL J. KELIHER
Vice Presi ent $ General Manager, Information Systems Division, Honeywell Inc.
(Admiral Boyes in first seat unannounced)
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PROGRAM
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE CEREMONIAL BAND
Introduction of Head Table
JON L. BOYES
Vice Admiral, USN (Ret.)
President, AFCEA
Presentation of Colors
JOINT MILITARY COLOR GUARD
Invocation
COLONEL EARL F. VAUGHN, USAF
Salute to the Armed Forces
A Medley of Service Songs
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE BAND
Presiding
ROBERT E. GRADLE
Chairman of the Board, AFCEA
Introduction of the Banquet Speaker
by
ROBERT E. GRADLE
Banquet Speaker
ADMIRAL STANSFIELD TURNER, USN (Ret.)
Director
Central Intelligence Agency
Presentation to
ARTHUR A. COLLINS
David Sarnoff Award
Presentation to
ROBERT E. GRADLE
Distinguished Service Gold Medal
Closing Remarks
ROBERT E. GRADLE
Adjourn
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HEAD TABLE
JOHN A. HOLLANSWORTH
Vice President and General Manager, Government Systems Division, Western Union
REAR ADMIRAL MILTON J. SCHULTZ, JR., USN
Deputy Director for Tactical C-~ Systems, Organization of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
CHARLES M. DENNY
President, ADC Telecommunications Division of Magnetic Controls Company
EUGENE F. MURPHY
President, RCA Global Communications, Inc.
Director of
President, American Satellite Corporation
MAJOR GENERAL WILLIAM I. ROLYA, USA
Commander, U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command
GEORGE J. MEALEY
President, Cincinnati Electronics Corporation
DR. HARRY L. VAN TREES
Principal Deputy, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Communications, Command, Control and Intelligence
JOHN H. SIDEBOTTOM
Vice President, Washington Operations, Raytheon Company
MAJOR GENERAL CHARLES R. MYER, USA
Assistant Chief of Sta,~for Automation and Communications, Department of the Army
DANIEL J. FINK
Vice President and Group Executive, Aerospace Group, General Electric Company
HONORABLE WILLIAM F. BOLGER
Postmaster General, United States Postal Service
LAURENCE J. ADAMS
President, Martin Marietta Aerospace
VICE ADMIRAL SAMUEL L. GRAVELY, JR., USN
Director, Defense Communications Agency
ROBERT H. MITCHELL
Senior Vice President and Group Executive, Aircraft Systems Group, E-Systems, Inc.
HONORABLE DR. GERALD P. DINNEEN
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Communications, Command, Control and Intelligence
THOMAS A. CAMPOBASSO
President, Electronics International Operations, Rockwell International Corporation
ARTHUR A. COLLINS
President, Arthur A. Collins, Inc.
COLONEL EARL F. VAUGHN, USAF
Chaplain, United States Air Force
ROBERT E. GRADLE, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, AFCEA
Vice President, Government Communications, American Telephone and Telegraph Company
ADMIRAL STANSFIELD TURNER, USN (RET.)
Director, Central Intelligence Agency
DR. JOSEPH A. BOYD
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Harris Corporation
HONORABLE DR. WALTER B. LABERGE
Under Secretary of the Army
DR. JOHN L. MCLUCAS
Executive Vice President, International Communications and Technical Services, Communications Satellite Corporation
HONORABLE JAMES H. QUELLO
Commissioner, Federal Communications Commission
DONALD O. KISER
Senior Vice President and General Manager, Electronic Systems Group, GTE Sylvania Incorporated
DR. ROBERT J. HERMANN
Special Assistant for Research, Development and Logistics to the Acting Secretary of the Air Force
C. A. CHAPMAN
President, Racal Communications, Inc.
LIEUTENANT GENERAL THOMAS M. RIENZI, USA
Deputy Director General, NATO Integrated Communications Systems Management Agency
R. P. HENDERSON
President, HRB-Singer, Inc.
LIEUTENANT GENERAL PHILIP D. SHUTLER, USMC
Director of Operations, Organization of the Joint Chiefs of Staff'
BERTRAM B. TOWER
Chairman of the Board, ITT World Communications, Inc.
MAJOR GENERAL (P) HILMAN DICKINSON, USA
Director of Command, Control and Communications Systems (Cj), Organization of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
EARLE C. WILLIAMS
President, The BDM Corporation
MAJOR GENERAL JAMES M. ROCKWELL, USA
Director, Joint Tactical Communications Office
JAMES R. MELLOR
President and Chief Operating Officer, AM International, Inc.
MARK K. MILLER
Vice President, Systems Acquisition, The Boeing Aerospace Company
MICHAEL J. KELIHER
Vice President and General Manager, Marketing Services Information Systems Division, Honeywell Information Systems
JON L. BOYES
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ARMED FORCES COMMUNICATIONS & ELECTRONICS ASSOCIATION
Military Preparedness
Through
Command & Control
Electronics
Computer Technology
Communications
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