CHANCELLOR KONRAD ADENAUER OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY MEETS THE PRESS

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VBC Panel Program, "Meet the Press," Washington, D. C., Sunday, April 16, 1961. Guest: His
xcellency, Dr. Konrad Andeauer, Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany. Moderator:
ed Brooks at the table with the Chancellor. Panel (l. to r.): Frank Bourgholtzer, NBC News;
Ernest K. Lindley, Newsweek Magazine; James Reston, New York Times and Lawrence E. Spivak
regular panel member.
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Senator Thomas J. Dodd (D., Conn.) inserts this historical interview in the Con-
gressional Record, issue of April 19, 1961. The complete text of the interview with
Senator Dodd's introductory remarks, plus the White House joint communique by the
President and Chancellor Adenauer are reproduced in the following pages as a con-
tribution to a historical chapter in world statesmanship.
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THE GERMAN CHANCELLOR AND OUR PRESIDENT
The German-United States alliance in a show of friendship when Chancellor Adenauer and Presi-
dent Kennedy met for the first time in Washington, April 12, 1961.
We are producing on the following pages the White House communique in
order to better understand the interesting and penetrating questions put
to Chancellor Adenauer by some of the best newspapermen in the United
States during a television interview. These newspapermen are part of a
great team of American journalists known the world over as members of
the important television panel program, "Meet the Press."
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FULL TEXT OF ADENAUER INTERVIEW ON 'MEET THE PRESS'
IS ENTERED IN 'CONGRESSIONAL RECORD'
The full text of an interview with West German
Chancellor Konrad Adenauer on NBC's "Meet the Press" has
been entered in the Congressional Record.
Senator Thomas J. Dodd (D.-Conn.) told the Senate
that Adenauer's appearance "Meet "
on the Press" Sunday.,
April 16, "gave the American people a fine opportunity
to observe this great man who is rightly called the architect
of modern Germany."
"Chancellor Adenauer reaffirmed the determination
of his country to stand with the United States in firmly
resisting Communist aggression," Senator Dodd said. "Be-
cause of the important views on a number of issues expressed
during this program by the Chancellor.. I ask unanimous
consent that the transcript be printed at this point in the
Record."
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OF CI NCELLOR ADENAUER S WITH PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY
April 13, 1961
THE WHITE HOUSE
REMARKS OF THE PRESIDENT AND CH~iNCELLOR KONPLD ADENAUER
1'~F'FETh THE REiiDING OF THE JOINT COMMUNIQUE
OUTSIDE THE ENTRLNCE TO THE WEST LOBBY OF THE MITE HOUSE
ABOUT 5.00 P.M. ,EST
THE PRESIDENT: We have this Communique which will come cat
in a few minutes. Perhaps I cald read it quickly and then I might
say a word or two.
(After reading the Communique): I want to say, speaking
as President of the United States, that it has been a great pleasure
to welcome to the shores of this country again the Chancellor of
the Federal Republic. I don't think that there is any doubt that
history will deal most generously with him in writing the history
of the Atlantic Community in the years 1945 to the present. His
accomplishments have been extraordinary in binding the nations of
Western Europe together, in strengthening the ties which link the
United States and the Federal Republic.
Therefore, speaking personally and also as President of
this country, it is a great honor to welcome again to our shores a
friend, a great European and distinguished leader of his country,
the Chancellor of the German Republic, Chancellor lAenauer.
CHI" CELLOR ADEN) UER (as interpreted from the German) e Mr.
President, I was deeply moved and touched by the kind words which
you said after'reading out the Communique. I should like to assure
you, Mr. President, that I feel exactly thesame way as you do, that
it was an extremely great pleasure for me to have come back again
to your country in order to have had the opportunity of sensing
the atmosphere which I was able to find over here. I especially
felt this atmosphere in the discussions which I had with you, Mr.
President, and I also felt it particularly this afternoon when I
was welcomed in the Senate.
This is the ninth time that I have come here to the United
States, and every time I feel deeper and closer linked with your
country and with your government. I am very happy indeed, Mr.
President, to have had this chance of meeting you -- and you, as
the great leader of your country, and therefore the personality
that carries such a huge responsibility for the fate of all the
free world, and you are dealing with this big task with great
energy, with great far-sightedness.
Thank you very much, Mr. President.
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FOLLOWING IS A JOINT COMMUNIQUE
BY THE PRESIDENT AND HIS EXCELLENCY
CHANCELLOR KONRAD ADENAUER of the
FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY:
During the past two days the President and the Chancellor have had a most cordial and useful
exchange of views on a number of subjects of interest to their two Governments.
Their informal conversations have included among other, things, discussions of; the problem of a
divided Germany including Berlin; the current nuclear test ban talks; political and military de-
velopments pertaining to NATO; aid to developing countries, European economic cooperation;
East-West relations; and the situation in some critical areas of world politics.
Also participating in the talks were Secretary of State Dean Rusk and German Foreign Minister
The President and the Chancellor reaffirmed the position of their Governments that only through
the application of the principle of self-determination can a just and enduring solution be found
for the problem of Germany including Berlin. They renewed their pledge to preserve the freedom
of the people of West Berlin pending the reunification of Germany in peace and freedom and the
restoration of Berlin as the capital of a reunified country.
The President and the Chancellor agreed that intensified political cooperation in NATO is in-
dispensable in order to coordinate the efforts of the Allies for the preservation of peace and se-
curity in the world.. i
The President and the Chancellor reaffirmed their support of NATO as the keystone of the com-
mon defense of the North Atlantic area. They underlined the conviction of their Governments as
to the necessity for the Alliance to maintain and develop further all military means required to
enable them to deter effectively a potential aggressor from threatening the territorial integrity or
independence of any ally.
Furthermore, the problems of general and controlled disarmament were discussed. The President
and the Chancellor are convinced that reasonable, freely negotiated measures to reverse the
growth of uncontrolled national armaments will serve to lessen the danger of war and that con-
currently measures should be negotiated to secure a life' in freedom to all nations. The goal is a
general and total peace. (more)
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The President and the Chancellor agreed on the importance of a concerted aid effort by the in-
dustralized free world nations in an amount commensurate with their resources and on a basis
corresponding to the magnitude of the task. They pledged the support of the United States and
the Federal Republic to the fulfillment of the objectives adopted by the member nations of the
Development Assistance Group at their meeting in London two weeks ago.
The President and the Chancellor welcomed the prospective establishment of the Organization
for Economic Cooperation and Development as constituting a step of vital importance in the de-
velopment of an Atlantic Community. The new possibilities which it opens for economic co-
operation and economic policy coordination and the means of achieving closer interdependence
were also discussed.
In this connection, the President and the Chancellor agreed that continuing attention should be
paid to the balance of payments problem.
The important role of the European Economic Community as a powerful and cohesive force in the
core of the Atlantic Community was stressed. The dynamic political and institutional potential
of the EEC was agreed to be an important element of present strength for the Atlantic Community.
The fruitful exchange of views which the President and the Chancellor have had, as well as the
frank and cordial atmosphere in which the talks were conducted have contributed significantly to
deepening the ties of friendship and understanding between the two countries and to the strength-
ening of the free world community.
FROM THE FLOOR OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE
(Congressional Record, p.5619, April 14, 1961)
LUNCHEON IN HONOR OF CHAN-
CELLOR ADENAUER
Mr. JAVITS. Mr. President, I wish to
call the attention of the Senate to a
notable luncheon which was held today,
presided over by the distinguished Sen-
ator from Connecticut [Mr. DODD], and
at which the cohosts were the distin-
guished Senator from New Hampshire
[Mr. BRIDGES], the distinguished Senator
from Minnesota [Mr. HUMPHREY], the
distinguished Senator from Nebraska
[Mr. HRUSKA], and I. The luncheon was
given in honor of Chancellor Adenauer
and Foreign Minister von Brentano, of
the German Federal Republic, and was
held in the committee room of the Com-
mittee on Appropriations in the New
Senate Office Building.
A large audience was present, includ-
ing Mrs. Libeth Werhahn, the daughter
of Chancellor Adenauer, and many of
our Senate colleagues.
The luncheon was held in the pres-
ence of the Vice President of the United
States, the Honorable Lyndon B. John-
son; the Secretary of Defense, the Sec-
retary of the Army, the Secretary of the
Navy, the Secretary of the Air Force,
the Under Secret y of State for Eco-
nomic Affairs, t Director of the Cen-
tral Intelligen Agency; the president
of the American Red Cross, General
Gruenther; the Ambassador from the
German Federal Republic to the United
States, Dr. Wilhelm Grewe; ana the U.S.
Ambassador to the German Federal Re-
public, Mr. J. Walter Dowling.
The luncheon was marked by magnifi-
cent addresses delivered by Chancellor
Adenauer, Foreign Minister von Bren-
tano, and by many of our colleagues,
and was most graciously presided over by
the Senator from Connecticut [Mr.
DODD ] .
I think the luncheon will go far, in
view of the character of the audience
and the nature of the addresses, to sig-
nalize the close relationship between the
German Federal Republic and the United
States in the interests of freedom and
in the defense of freedom.
Coming at a time when the world has
a new degree of curiosity about the new
Germany and its role in the pursuit of
freedom and in the integration of Eu-
rope for economic, political, and govern-
mental purposes, it was a most signifi-
cant occasion, for which we are all most
grateful.
In due course, either I or one of my
cohosts will place in the RECORD the text
of the remarks which were made at the
luncheon. For the present, I only ex-
press my gratification, without com-
menting upon the fine influence I
believe the gathering will have on our re-
lations abroad, not only with the peo-
ple of Germany, but also with the peo-
ple of Europe and the rest of the free
world.
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STATEMENT BY SECRETARY OF STATE DEAN RUSK UPON THE ARRIVAL
IN WASHINGTON OF HIS EXCELLENCY DR. RONRAD ADENAUER,
CHANCELLOR OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY
Let me extend to you a warm welcome to Washington. It is a great
pleasure for me both personally and officially, and a high privilege as
well, to greet you on behalf of President Kennedy and the people of the
United States,
We are happy to have you here with us not only because you are so
well known as a close and understanding friend of our country, but also
because you embody so clearly the dynamic and democratic Germany of
today. It is most opportune that you could arrange to consult with us
at precisely this time when a new American Administration is shaping the
major policy lines which we will expect to follow during the years ahead.
In close cooperation with our Allies and friends, we shall move together
on the path toward freedom and peace for all the world. We will expect
to benefit greatly from the wise and statesmanlike counsel that you will
bring to this endeavor.
Permit me also to extend my welcome'to your daughter, Mrs. Werhahn*,
and the distinguished members of your party, including particularly
Foreign Minister von Brentano. I hope that, even though your stay with
us will be a short one, the pressure of ,'business will permit you some
measure of relaxation and that your visit will prove most pleasant and
enjoyable for yourself and your party.
*Mrs. Libeth Werhahn
State--RD, Wash., D.C.
West German Chancellor Konrad Adenauer (l.)
and Secretary of State Dean Rusk. (UPI Photo)
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PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE 87th CONGRESS, FIRST SESSION
WASHINGTON, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 19, 1961 No. 66
Senate
COMPLETE TRANSCRIPT: "MEET THE PRESS"
CHANCELLOR KONRAD ADENAUER
MEETS THE PRESS
Mr. DODD. Mr. President, on Sunday
evening Chancellor Konrad Adenauer of
West Germany was the guest on ,the
NBC panel program "Meet the Press."
His appearance gave the American
people a fine opportunity to observe this
great man who is rightly called the ar-
chitect of modern Germany.
Chancellor Adenauer reaffirmed the
determination of his country to stand
with the United States in firmly resist-
ing Communist aggression.
Because of the important views on a
number of issues expressed during this
program by the Chancellor, I ask unani-
mous consent that, the transcript be
printed at this point in the RECORD.
There being no objection, the trans-
cript was ordered to be printed in the
RECORD, as follows:
MEET THE PRESS
(Produced by Lawrence E. Spivak)
Sunday, April 16, 1961.
Moderator: Ned Brooks:
Guest: His Excellency, Konrad Adenauer,
Chancellor of the Federal Republic of
Germany.
Panel: Frank Bourgholtzer, NBC News; Er-
nest K. Lindley, Newsweek Magazine;
James Reston, New York Times; Law-
rence E. Spivak, regular panel member.
Mr. BROOKS. This is Ned Brooks, inviting
you to "Meet the Press."
Our guest today is the Chancellor of West
Germany, Dr. Konrad Adenauer. He has
just concluded a series of conferences with
President Kennedy reaffirming the solidarity
of relations between our two countries.
Asking the questions today on "Meet the
Press" are Frank Bourgholtzer, of NBC News;
Ernest K. Lindley, of Newsweek magazine;
James Reston, of the New York Times; and
Lawrence E. Spivak, our regular member of
the "Meet the Press" panel.
Mr. BRooxs. The conferences just con-
cluded between Chancellor Adenauer and
President Kennedy have produced agree-
ment to stand firm on West Berlin and to
strengthen the NATO organization.
Dr. Adenauer, now 85 years old, has served
as Chancellor since 1949. He now is a can-
didate for reelection. He is- recognized
throughout the world as an unyieling enemy
of communism. He has been the chief
architect of Germany's postwar recovery
and renewed participation in world affairs.
Dr. Adenauer began his career as Mayor of
Cologne and he was one of the founders of
the Christian Democratic Party.
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His Excellency, Konrad Adenauer, (l.)
Chancellor of the Federal Republic of
Germany with Lawrence E. Spivak, reg-
ular panel member of NBC's "Meet the
Press" program on the occasion of the
Chancellor's visit to Washington for his
first meeting with President John F.
Kennedy.
Assisting in our program today are two
translators. With their help we will give
you a simultaneous translation. That ac-
counts for the earphones.
Now ready to start the questions, Mr.
Spivak.
Mr. SPIVAK. Mr. Chancellor, the com-
munique which you and President Kennedy
issued is written in such very diplomatic
language that it is a bit difficult to know
whether anything new and important came
out of your meeting.
Would you tell us what was new and im-
portant that came out of this meeting with
President Kennedy?
Chancellor ADENAUER. I would certainly
like to do so but I think you are not right
when you say the communique is in very
diplomatic terms. I think that the com-
munigtie is a very precise one and very
exact. I would also like to point out that
we discussed the leadership in NATO and
that myself particularly on behalf of all very
much urged that the United States, as by
far the biggest NATO power, should take
over the lead in NATO more strongly than
they did over the past few years.
Mr. SPIVAK. When you say, "Take the lead
more strongly," on what to do specifically,
what would you have us do that we haven't
been doing? We have assumed that we have
taken the lead and that we have taken a
strong lead. What would you have us do
that would indicate we were taking a strong-
er lead?
Chancellor ADENAUER. President Kennedy
was talking of cultivatine more. strongly the
consultation than up to now. If this is be-
ing done then it will be clearly recognizable
what the views of the United States are in
the questions to be decided upon and that
only means leadership because if the United
States in the very beginning in important
matters discusses with the others and gives
its views very clearly then I think it is a
matter of course that the other partners
will think really thoroughly about what the
opinion and position will be on those Ameri-
can views and it will only be when they have
really strong reasons that they will be in
opposition to the views of the United States.
Mr. SPIVAK. We , now you say that you
think the United ought to take a
stronger leadership. At the same time there
have been suggestions that we give up some
of our leadership, particular where nuclear
weapons are concerned. Will you give us
your opinion of Mr. Macmillian's recent sug-
gestion of having the United States, Britain,
and France act as trustees of the nuclear
deterrent in Europe?
Chancellor ADENAUER. This proposal is so
little precise that it is not yet possible to
take a position on it.
Mr. SPIVAK. Would Germany like a voice
in the use of nuclear weapons on the Con-
tinent?
Chancellor ADENAUER. You are getting
very indiscreet with your questions, but I
am trying not to evade them, not to duck
them. I think that a three-power direc-
torium would be impossible within NATO,
even in the field of nuclear weapons but
now many people are studying whether it is
impossible with some votes to come to some
classification of the votes but all this is not
yet concluded and I think that all this will
have to be discussed very thoroughly within
NATO and examined.
Mr. RESTON. Mr. Chancellor, could you
tell us what differences of policy or ap-
proach that you have found here as com-
pared with the last time you were here
under the Eisenhower administration?
Chancellor ADENAUER. May I ask you
to tell me exactly what you mean by it, do
you mean the behavior?
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Mr. RESTON. No; I was thinking pri-
marily in terms of policy. For example,
last year as I understand it the United
States proposed the Herter plan for the
dealing with strategic atomic weapons. Now
I understand there is a difference In the
point of view of the Kennedy administra-
tion. Would you give us your views about
that?
Chancellor ADExAVES. Now this Is a po-
litical, but in my view, in the first line
a purely military matter and I think the
military experts of course will have to be
heard on this matter. I don't know whether
this has been done up to now, really.
Mr. RESTON. There Is as I understand
it a point in your communique with Presi-
dent Kennedy which foresees raising the
level of conventional weapons in Europe.
Now does this mean that you would allow
atomic, tactical weapons to remain in the
planning stage where they are now or is
that also to be changed?
Chancellor ADENAUEE. I have the commu-
nique here and if you will permit me I
would like to have a look at it to see exact-
ly what the wording is. This I don't think
it meant. It is true that we agree to ful-
fill the conventional objectives, or that we
consider them as very important, but this
does not mean that the planning in the nu-
clear field is In any way modified. Our com-
munique says very clearly that we were
jointly of the opinion that it is indispens-
able for the alliances to maintain and de-
velop further all military means which
means both the conventional and the nu-
clear things.
Mr. LINDLEY. Mr. Chancellor, the Eich-
mann trial is on in Israel. Are you pleased
or displeased to have the world and the Ger-
man people reminded in that way and at
this tinle of those dark pages In history?
Chancellor ADENAnSS. It is not beautiful,
or nice, but it has to be done and therefore
I think we should view it calmly and spread
out all these horrors before the world
opinion and also the German public.
Mr. LINDLEY. One bears it said sometimes
that the German young people today are
not being taught in the German schools very
much about the rise and fall of Hitler and
the crimes committed under the Hitler
regime. Do you think that Is the case?
Chancellor ADENAUER. That certainly was
true for some time or has been true for some
time, but I think that has been changed in
the meantime. You must not forget that
children who go to school now have been
born only after the Hitler regime was over
and after the war was over.
Mr. LnvmLElC. Well, do you think lit is im-
portant to have them Instructed in the rise
and fall of Hitler and the crimes of that
period?
Chancellor ADENAUne. I am of the opinion
that nothing should be kept from them
and nothing should be minimized but that
these really terrible things should be dealt
with as a historian-really made clear as a
historic event, as with all other history and
one should not be silent about the fault-
whose fault it is.
Mr. BoVROHOLTZER. Mr. Chancellor, on the
question of the Eichmann trial, is there any
obligation on the part of the German Gov-
erIlment toward Eichmann as a German
citizen?
Chancellor ADENAUEE. Eichmann is no
German national, Gern}an citizen, and we
have no obligation whatsoever toward him.
Mr. BoURamoLTzER. Chancellor, on the
question of balance of payments which has
been discussed frequently between the
United States and West Germany, the new
administration here seems to feel that it Is
wrong for a nation such as West Germany to
have, year after year, a surplus in the bal-
ance of payments.
Do you agree with this and do you have
any plans. to shape German foreign aid pro-
grams In such a way as to eliminate balance
of payments surpluses?
Chancellor ADENAUER. We don't think it is
agreeable always to have a surplus. That
awakens in our own people and In other peo-
ple unpleasant thoughts and we are fully
prepared to use what we have in surplus to
participate in development aid but I should
like to emphasize one point: In the ques-
tion of economic aid, in my opinion it is
important that some coordination be
brought into this complex matter. Other-
wise if we continue as we have up to now
we will not have the success which we all
wish for.
Mr. BounonoLTLER. Mr. Chancellor, we
understand from the newspapers that you
have sent a message to Soviet Premier
Khrushchev while you have been in Wash-
ington. Is this a fact and can you tell us
whether there might be some conference or
meeting between West German officials and
Soviet officials in the near future?
Chancellor ADENAUER. The last point is
completely new to me. This is not in-
tended. It is true that a letter of Mr.
Khrushchev's which he sent me a few weeks
ago, was responded to during these few days,
but as. you know I can't give you any de-
tails because we need mutual agreement to
publish the letter.
Mr. SPIvAS. Mr. Chancellor, you and Presi-
dent Kennedy ended your meeting with a
joint pledge to strengthen the military de-
fenses of the West. Can you in fact do
that without fuller cooperation from Gen-
eral de Gaulle?
Chancellor ADsivAVEa. Of course. we can
with de Gaulle's participation, but I hope
that the visit President Kennedy will make
to Paris will be a blow to iron out the dif-
ficulties which exist between France and
the United States-France and NATO.
Mr. SPrvAx. Have you personally-I know
you have had many talks with de Gaulle.
Have you gotten from him his minimal
demands for full participation in NATO?
Chancellor ADENAUER. I don't know, Wit
I am of the opinion that its always best
to have a very frank discussion about these
questions.
Mr. SPIvAx. You say it is well to have
frank discussions about them? Have you
had frank discussions with de Gaulle about
them?
Chancellor ADENAUER. I haven't seen de
Gaulle for several months, but I will meet
him again in Bonn in May and I am certain
that after all these questions of NATO and
of a reactivation of NATO, which it needs,
will 5be on the agenda. I will also talk to
de `Gaulle about these matters when I meet
him next.
Mr. SPIvAx. Mr. Chancellor, one other
question. Would you like to see the Euro-
pean Free Trade Association merged with
the Common Market? Have England join
it?
Chancellor ADENAUER. I think that the way
would be the following, that individual
countries now being aftermembers and the
afterties are not as strong as the ties of the
Six, will join us and then gradually draw a
close association or a full merger will take
place and I would welcome that very much.
Mr. RESTON. Mr. Chancellor, may I ask you
a philosophic question: Isn't there in the
Youth of Germany. the young people who
have grown up since the war, isn't there a
new European spirit which is different from
the spirit when you were a young man in
Germany?
Chancellor ADENAVES.. A completely differ-
ent spirit. When I was a young man, some
Individuals had Ideas about Europe, made
possible, by the way, because when I was
25 years old I already had this idea that the
European countries should go together more
closely. Today In Germany. we find that the
European idea is really the one the youth
is most attracted to.
Mr. RESTON. There are a lot of politicians
in this city at the present time who would
like to be engaged in a national election
for the Chancellorship when they are 85
years old. Could you give us the secret
of doing that? We would be very interested
in that.
Chancellor ADENAUEE. In my opinion,
nothing keeps us as healthy and as strong
than to work often and much and regularly.
Mr. LINDLEY. Mr. Chancellor, on the basis
of that diagnosis would you be willing to
predict that Khrushchev will live to be 85?
Chancellor ADENAUER. Now this is a very
tricky question. I wish that he will be-
come-get old. You know what you have
but you never know what the next will be.
Mr. LINDLEY. Mr. Chancellor, I believe that
in his letter to you a few weeks ago Mr.
Khrushchev indicated that he still regards
a change in the status of Berlin as an urgent
matter. How log do you think it is likely
to be before he provokes another crisis over
Berlin?
Chancellor ADExAUER. Well it all depends
on the general political development. If
you look back you will see that Berlin has
always been taken up again when some-
where else in the political situation some-
thing existed which the Soviet Union didn't
like so they took up the Berlin question
to detract from the other problem.
Mr. LINDLEY. You don't think the timing
might have some relationship with the next
Congress of the Communist Party that is to
be held-of the Communist Party of the
Soviet Union to be held in, I believe, Oc-
tober?
Chancellor ADENAUEE. It may be that there
Is some relationship with it.
Mr. LINDLEY. Would you like to see Mr
Khrushchev and President Kennedy meet at
the summit, even informally, between now
and the autumn?
Chancellor ADENAUER. I don't know
whether you have already the Information
about the talk between Khrushchev and Mr.
Lippmann. In that talk he said that he had
quite understood President Kennedy to need
some time in order to get familiar with the
problems, and I think that is a very reason-
able stand and really the new President is
right In the midst of all these new prob-
lems and I think one should leave him and
his people enough time to have a clear view
of the whole situation. In this matter really
1 or 2 or 3 months are of no importance.
But this will be up to President Kennedy
when he thinks the time has come for him
to talk to Khrushchev.
Mr. BOURCHOLTZER. Chancellor Adenauer,
the work on rockets which Is at the basis of
both the Soviet Union's and this country's
space explorations was originally done as far
as we know mostly by German scientists. I
wonder if you could tell us if there are sdi-
entists in West Germany now, if there are
developments there that might help the
United States catch up with the Soviet Union
if something were done that is not being
done.
Chancellor ADENAUER. You know that af-
ter the breakdown of Germany, the German
scientists who were working on this matter,
especially IOr the greater part, has been
transferred to Russia and given to Russia
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even by the United States so that unfor-
tunately German knowledge was also the
basis of the Soviet development in this
field. We are not supposed to-not allowed
to work in this field except in the field of
pure research. But as I have heard also
in my talk with President Kennedy that you
are very interested also to have Germans
participate in this matter. I will certainly
take it up after my return.
Mr. RESTON. Mr. Chancellor, I don't put
this question to you in a hostile spirit, but
there are two things in this country that
still trouble some people. One, whether the
aggressive spirit of Germany of the past is
now dead, and secondly whether in the
field of commerce there is any desire for a
kind of commercial Rapallo with the Soviet
Union?
Chancellor ADENAUER. Let me take the
second question first. You are talking about
commercial Rapallo r can only say a small
part of the German economy might have
some interest in the Soviet-with the Soviet
Union-but this certainly cannot be termed
as lapallo.
And I havent felt anything of the agres-
sive spirit. We have a very strong-we have
had a very strong cognition through this
war because when your country is destroyed
the way our country was destroyed then
you know really what war means and you
know that aggression does not bear fruit.
Mr. SPIVAK. Mr. Chancellor, would there
be any changes in foreign policy regardless
of whether you or Mayor Willy Brandt were
elected Chancellor?
Chancellor ADENAUEa. Do you want to put
this question to me in September, please,
after the elections? In my opinion now, one
shouldn't try to pass any judgments which
actually are of no meaning.
Mr. BROOKS. Well, gentlemen, I think we
have covered a great deal of territory today,
but I am sorry that I must now interrupt.
I see that our time is up.
Thank you very much, Dr. Adenauer, for
being with us. Our thanks also to our two
able translators.
VISIT TO THE SENATE BY CHAN-
CELLOR KONRAD ADENAUER OF
THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GER-
MANY
Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President,
shortly the Senate will be honored by a
visit from the Chancellor of the Federal
Republic of Germany, Konrad Adenauer.
I ask unanimous consent that the Sen-
ate stand in recess, subject to the call
of the Chair, for the purpose of receiv-
ing this distinguished visitor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr.
SnnnH of Massachusetts in the chair)
Is there objection? The Chair hears
none, and it is so ordered. The Chair
appoints, as a committee to escort the
Chancellor into the Chamber, the Sen-
ator from Montana [Mr. MANSFIELD],
the Senator from Illinois [Mr. DIRxsEN],
the Senator from Alabama [Mr. SPARx-
MAN], and the Senator from Wisconsin
[Mr. WILEY].
Whereupon, at 2 o'clock and 33 min-
utes p.m. the Senate took a recess, sub-
ject to the call of the Chair.
The Senate being in recess, his Ex-
cellency, Konrad Adenauer, Chancellor
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Guest on NBC's panel program, "Meet the Press," is His Ex-
cellency, Chancellor Konrad Adenauer, (r.) during his Washington
visit for his first meeting with President Kennedy. With the
Chancellor are Ned Brooks, panel moderator (1.) and Lawrence E.
Spivak (center), regular member of the panel program.
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of the Federal Republic of Germany,
escorted by the committee appointed by
the Vice President, entered the Cham-
ber, and took the seat assigned to him
immediately in front of the Vice Presi-
dent.
The members of the party accompany-
ing the Chancellor of the Federal Re-
public of Germany, consisting of His Ex-
cellency, Dr. Heinrich von Brentano,
Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Fed-
eral Republic of Germany; His Excel-
lency, Wilhelm G. Grewe, Ambassador of
the Federal Republic of Germany; and
the interpreter, Mr. Krusterer, were es-
corted to the Chamber, and took the
places assigned to them.
The VICE PRESIDENT Members of
the Senate, it is a very high honor and
a very great privilege to present the
Chancellor of the Federal Republic of
Germany, Konrad Adenauer. [Ap-
plause, Senators rising.]
Thereupon, from the rostrum, the
Chancellor delivered a brief address in
German, which was translated, as fol-
lows:
Mr. Vice President and Members of
the Senate, it is a particularly great
pleasure and honor for me to be in this
place for the second time and to Address
a few words to you. I would like to ex-
press my heartfelt gratitude for the most
friendly and warm reception you have
given me here. I know that it was meant
primarily for the people I have the honor
to represent. Therefore, I thank you
with all the warmth of my heart. I may
assure you, Members of the Senate, that
in these particularly difficult times the
German people will always stand by your
side, ready to help wherever the Ger-
mans can help. Thank you again. [Ap-
plause, Senators rising.]
The VICE PRESIDENT. The Chan-
cellor has informed the majority and
minority leaders that he would be
pleased to visit with the Members of
the Senate in the well of the chamber;
The Chancellor, with his party, was
thereupon escorted to the well of the
Senate, where he was greeted by the
Members of the Senate, after which he
and his party retired from the Chamber.
At 2 o'clock and 50 minutes p.m., the
Senate reassembled, when called to order
by the Presiding Officer (Mr. SMITH of
Massachusetts in the chair).
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SENATORS HONOR GERMAN CHANCELLOR
A demonstration of goodwill, with expressions of confidence and admiration were in evidence in
great measure at a luncheon hosted by a group of Senators in Washington on April 14, honoring
Chancellor Konrad Adenauer and Foreign Minister Heinrich von Brentano.
A verbatim report of the full proceedings, including all the speeches, will be published at a later
date. For the present, there follows a resume of this unique and inspiring reception and luncheon
in which not only our Senators and Congressmen participated, but also the top representatives of
all branches of the United States government, and leaders of the United States business community
as well.
United States Senators Play Host to Two Distinguished
German Guests -- Chancellor Konrad Adenauer
and Foreign Minister Heinrich von Brentano
April 14, 1961
That the pendulum of public opinion has swung completely since World War II was nowhere
more evident than it was in our nation's capital last week during the visit of Dr. Konrad Adenauer,
venerable 85-year-old Chancellor of the Federal German Republic.
He was literally lionized by usually blase members of the United States Senate and House of
Representatives, the executive and judicial branches of our Government, and the sophisticated
Washington diplomatic corps.
In a rare move of amity, Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson escorted "Der Alte" to the floor
of the United States Senate where the Chancellor was personally welcomed by more than 150 top-
flight members of the Congress, the executive departments, and civic and business leaders.
But perhaps most indicative was the luncheon given in the Chancellor's honor, and in honor
of his Foreign Minister Dr. Heinrich von Brentano in the Senate Appropriations room.
Particularly significant at this time when much of the world's spotlight is focused on the
Eichmann trial is that one of the Senatorial hosts was Senator Jacob Javits of New York. The in-
vocation was given by Rabbi Norman Gerstenfeld of the Washington Hebrew Congregation.
Other hosts were Senators Thomas J. Dodd, of Connecticut; Styles Bridges, New Hampshire;
Hubert H. Humphrey, Minnesota; and Roman L. Hruska,Nebraska.
Protocol was thrown aside as the unofficial quorum of Senators and Congressmen paid their
respects to a statesman who devoted much of his life to fighting the spectre of Nazism - for which
he was imprisoned in a Gestapo dungeon and now in the twilight of his years is embarked on
another campaign to curb the encroachments of still another horror - Communism.
More than 100 members of the Senate and House of Representatives were there. Not only
did the five members of the Senate act as hosts at the luncheon held in the large Senate Appropri-
ations Committee Room, but they invited 170 guests including top ranking members of Government,
the diplomatic corps, American civic, business and religious leaders.
It was a touching tribute to the 85-year-old German statesman, who was described by Senator
Styles Bridges as "a symbol of manhood who, defying time, continues to be one of the great men
of our era". (more)
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With tears in his eyes the German Chancellor, responded with an invitation to all those
present to visit him in Germany so that he could reciprocate.
While all this was going on, Senators Margaret Chase Smith, Maurine Neuberger, and the
Chancellor's daughter, Mrs. Libeth Werhahn, were busy comparing not only international Spring
fashion notes, but discussing the serious problems of the world facing President Kennedy and
Chancellor Adenauer.
Chancellor Adenauer told the gathering that he was "extremely and most deeply touched by
what I have seen, heard and experienced ...since my arrival in Washington......
"The United States of America, as a result of the first World War, entered the scene of world
politics and became one of the most powerful nations, and in this capacity, the United States en-
tered also into the second World War and then after the end of the Second World War, the United
States of America stood that great historical test, namely, to fulfill the task of the victor after
victory. And this task of the victor after victory is not to destroy the vanquished but to help the
vanquished recover and to help him do peaceful work together with the other members of the com-
munity of nations.
"L feel that it is one of the noblest deeds of the American people for all times to come that
they dedicated their strength and their power in order to help rebuild a destroyed world, and this,
ladies and gentlemen, is the true hallmark of greatness. This is the test of true humaneness and
of true vision. I think.the American nation has stood this test and this is a record which will
greatly contribute to the honor of the people of the United States of America. and of this generation....
"The ordeal of the present generation isn't over yet. We are all aware of this and we are
also all aware that we can stand this ordeal only under the strong and determined leadership of
the United States of America, and I want also to assure you distinguished leaders of this nation
that Germany, in this ordeal, will stand by you on your side, steadfastly and faithfully."
In introducing the Chancellor, Senator Bridges referred to him as ".....one of the great men
of the world, one of the great statesmen of the 19th and 20th Century period which we have been
passing through and who is a deep friend of the United States and a man who has had the courage
to meet all the problems which are so complex in this present day."
Senator Davits said that the Chancellor came "with tremendous and flaming courage to show
the face of the new Germany at a time when the world will be holding in the balance the contrast
between the new Germany and the old Germany in view of the celebrated trial which is now going
on. And it is for this flaming courage, Mr. Chancellor, we pay you such tribute.
"We in public life and in political life know how hard it is to face the tough decisions and
to face the people of the world when the decisions are difficult
"You have faced it before in the reunification of Germany and the freedom of the City of
Berlin. You have maintained the finest traditions of the whole world. You are determined that
they should be - but you are also determined that they shall be if humanly possible, in peace. And,
so for my co-hosts in the Senate and all of us here, Mr. Chancellor, we toast the prosperity, the
health, the s u c c e s s of freedom as it is premised upon the very best in relations between the
German Federal Republic and the United States."
The luncheon was con c 1 u d e d with a benediction by the Rev. Martin J. Casey of Holy
Trinity- Roman Catholic Church in Georgetown, where President Kennedy frequently worships.
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WILLIAM S. WHITE
Adenauer Symbol
Of Greatness
WASHINGTON-The extraordinary importance of being
Konrad Adenauer-and the extraordinary power of personal
character and personal honor-was curiously illustrated in the
old West German chancellor's visit to the United States.
Seventeen years ago this very spring American and British
troops were marshaling all over the island of England for the
greatest invasion in history against the most bloody-minded
enemies in the long story of warfare, the
Nazi Germans dug in on the soil of France.
This spring, the leader of the free. Ger-
many that emerged from the defeat of the
Nazis was here in the United States as an
honored and trusted-indeed an almost re-
vered-guest.
It is true, of course, that American self-in-
terest and high politics as well as sentiment
have given the leader of a once enemy land
this high, peculiar status among us. For he
leads the free world's outpost in Europe, the
West German Republic; he is an indis-
pensable, watching ally against the Russian hordes just to the
east.
THIS, HOWEVER, is by no means all of it. For more im-
portant even than his position in the allied power structure is
his nature as a human being. A man who always fought
Adolf Hitler and what he stood for, Adenauer has personally
since then reclaimed the decency and integrity of the German
people.
An unshakeable friend of the West, he is also an un-
shakeable enemy in his own homeland of that odd infection
of savagery which so often in the past cursed the Germans in
Germany. He is more than a great political leader; he is an
example, at its very best, of that thing called European
civilization.
A LITTLE WHILE AGO, his principal political rival,
Mayor Willy Brandt of West Germany, was also here. He, too,
was welcomed everywhere. But to this observer there was a
great difference nevertheless in Washington's response to the
middle-aged and clever Brandt and to the massive and laconic
85-year-old Adenauer.
Both evoked respect here. But Adenauer-perhaps because
of the somber dignity of his years and achievements and per-
haps because of a personality having the weathered strength
of a great old tree-drew a special regard. It could be seen
more easily than it can be described.
He seems to represent some quality of timelessness; of a
traditional, patriarchial leadership; some strange and rare
victory of age over youth rather than of youth over age, as it
usually goes.
NOWHERE IN ALL the chanced~ ~ 9lu
was this more plainly true than in his bt$ie Ilp ref
the Senate. This, too, is a traditional, a timeless, a p tri l
Strong U. S. Leadership
Needed, Adenauer Says
By Elizabeth Wharton
United- Press International
West German Chancellor Allen W. Dulles, Under Sec:-
Konrad Adenauer yesterday retary of State George Ball.,
said only strong and deter- roving Ambassador W. Averell
mined United States leader- Harriman. the armed services
ship could shepherd the free Secretaries and about 150
world safely through its cur- other officials, members at
rent "time of ordeal."
many would stand steadfastly erpodd, a prosecutor at the
and faithfully with the United Nuernberg war crimes trials,
States against the threat of hailed Adenauer'Q role in re-
communism. building Germany after World
The 85-year-old Chancellor War II. Senate GOP policy
said he was impressed with chairman Styles Bridges (N.H.)
43-year-9ld President Kennedy voiced similar praise.
during their talks this week. Adenauer said America's
He said they advanced "the "true hallmark of "
spirit of brotherhood and the greatness"
unity of our ideals." was its effort to help the van..
Adenauer and West German their d nations get back on
Foreign Minister Heinrich their feet after the war.
von Brentano spoke at a The Chancellor did not elab?
lunch given in their honor at orate on his statement that
the Capitol by Sen. Thomas "the time of ordeal of the pres-
J. Dodd (D-Conn.). ent generation is not yet;
The affair was attended by over."
Vice President Lyndon B. But presumably he referred
Johnson, Defense Secretary to the Russian threat to West
Robert S. McNamara, Central Germany and Berlin as well
Intelligence Agency Director as other Soviet pressures.
kind of body. And here "Der Alte" (the old one) was most
perfectly at home.
His little talk was received by the Senate with a warmth
rarely given to that of any other man. Some who most
applauded him had lost sons to German fire in the war; some
had themselves gone -through German fire.
ALL THE SAME, if a strictly confidential poll had been
taken-as, of course, it was not-this correspondent would.
have had no doubt of the result. Der Alte
would carry any popularity contest in the
Senate above any other allied statesman, not
even excluding British Prime Minister Harold
Macmillan.
Macmillan would run ahead in such a
private poll among the Southerners and per-
haps among the old-Yankee types of East-
erners. But he would finish second among the
membership as a whole.
Beyond doubt there is an irony here-in
a' country founded by British men and rest-
ing upon British law and British-made insti-
tutions of freedom and speaking the great tongue of the
British race. Anyhow, there it is.
Perhaps it is because Der Alte has done so much against
such great odds. And perhaps it is also because he has con-
quered age in the eyes of a forum where age is a far more
91 , ij,common thing than youth.
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