TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING SESSION 855

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REMOTE VIEWING SESSION 855
1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing.session
conducted in compliance with a request for information.
2. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed
in document GRILL FLAME Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing
Protocol (S), undated.
3. (S/NOFORN) During the second phase of the session, the
remote viewer was interviewed concerning his impressions. At
TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer and his narrative
concerning the drawings. At TAB B is target cuing information
provided the remote viewer immediately prior to the session.
4. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target
are provided as raw intelligence data, and as such, have not
been subjected to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or colla-
tion. Interpretation and use of the information is the responsibi-
lity of the user.
5. (U) Your attention is invited to previous Sessions 837 and
824 concerning 8123.
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REMOTE VIEWING SESSION 855
#28:'; This will be a remote viewing session for 0900
hours, 4 February 1982.
I now am going to show you a photograph of the
area that you have been describing for the past
few weeks. As you can see, it fits your description
quite well. That is a light, industrial area. And,
the picture that you are looking at is a photograph
of the area before the incident which you have
described. You have described an incident involving
an explosion and some damage to these buildings.
a larger photograph which is covered up, and which
you can't see.
This photograph that is covered up is a photograph.
of the area after the incident which you described.
Now, on this blank sheet of paper covering this
photograph, I have indicated by an X a very, very parti-
cular point.
Now, this, I want to tell you a couple of things
here ...so-that you will not be mislead. The orientation
of the covered photograph is different than the
orientation of the photograph on the left. It is
also larger... It's a bigger blow-up. So, I am
concerned during this session which will be a time
session...we will go through time on this session....
about the point at the target area indicated by the X.
worked these sessions before, it's very, very
important that you focus on the particular window
that I am talking about at the time. So, that in
analysis we can later understand what is going on
in those time windows. A difficult discipline
problem for you. Do you have any other questions
before we begin the session?
#19.5: . Uha (negative)
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#28: All right. Fine. You now have all the time you
desire to prepare for this session. We will go
off tape while you prepare.
Relax, relax, relax, let go and concentrate,
concentrate and focus your attention solely on the
target .... in a specific area I have indicated to you.
Focus solely and completely on the target on the
area of interest. Solely...and completely.........
Relax now, hold your attention on the target area,
#19.5: Okay.
#28: Proceed.
#19.5: See a partially lit corridor with a steel door.
#28: Describe your relative position of observation.
#19.5: Floating by the ceiling looking down. Feel like I
have poured concrete or something to my back.
#28: Look up.
#19.5: Dirt, metal, more concrete.
#28: Move up.
#19.5: Sky.
#28: Stop. Look down.
#19.5: Flat, flat concrete.
#28: Cardinal directions.
#19.5: North is a edge, edge and a drop...west is circle.
South... vertical something, vertical lines, east
there's a square with round things on top with fans.
Closer to the square with the fans and the circle.
#28: Describe the circle on which you're standing.
#19.5: Concrete, hard...steel in it.
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#28: Stop. Do not move in space. Do not move in relative
SG1A
Concrete on the left is gone. Apparently, roof is
bent, bent in.
Describe location of roof relative to your position
of observation..
Left, left side is gone, west... circle... looked like.
a smooth cake before ...it's not............ it's ......
like dropped.
#28: Stop. Look up.
#19.5: Okay.. Sky.
#28: Look down.
#19.5: Ah...stone, rubble.
#28: Look further down.
#19.5: More stone, hole (phonetic).
#28:
#19.5: See metal-supports, pipes, jacks, new concrete...
#28: Stop. Look up.
#19.5: Cloth or something.
#28: Move up.
#19.5: Sky.
#28: Now down. Describe.
#19.5: Large cut...sections cut...some kind of
sides open...clear room....
#28: Say again.
#19.5: Clear room. Just a minute.
#28: 1 will wait,
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#19.5: Cloth on frame...wood.
#28: Move through cloth...down, down more, down
more.
#19.5: Smooth, concrete...steel...dirt... Wait a
minute. Dirt and stairs, dirt...it's dirt
and concrete mixed. There's, a door with dirt
and concrete mixed.
#28: Look up.
#19.5: Concrete, steel.
#28: Move up.
#19.5: Empty room.
#28: Move up.
#19.5: Room's got like steel trees everywhere. Framework
of wood, canvas.
#28: Move up.
#19.5: Sky.
#28: Stop. Look. down.
#19.5: White, covered cloth, canvas.
#28:
and describe.
#19.5: New...new supports of steel.
#28: Look up.
#19.5: Sky.
#28: And down.
#19.5: Supports of steel... openness...
#28: Describe surface.
#19.5: Open...no surface.
#28: At surface level oblique look 10 feet away
from you.
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#19.5:
See...geometric maze of metal.
#28:
Behind you.
#19.5:
Same with layers on it.
#28:
Now. 100 yards away from you..
#19.5:
An edge...drop off from roof...like a white
gravel mix... black ...layers' cloth.
#28:
Okay. Return to the X in the picture.
#19.5:
Okay. SG1A
#28:
Now, moving only through the time
#19.5:
New roof.
#28:
Say again.
#19.5:
It's smooth. It's white...some's on.....black on..
cloth on...concrete.
#28:
#19.5:
No change.
#28:
And December. and describe.
#19.5:
No change.
#28:
Look up.
#19.5:
Sky.
#28:
North.
#19.5:
Skyline is different.
#28:
Oblique 10 feet from your position.
#19.5:
Wall. Wall...face of very hard concrete.
#28:
Okay. Behind you 10 feet, oblique.
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#28:
All right. Walk on this surface...moving now,
walk on this surface. Describe.
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#19.5: Very hard concrete.
#28: Further.
#19.5: Steel...more concrete.
#28: Okay. Don't get involved in the surface. I
want a lateral movement.
#19.5: Same for...edge ...2 floor drop.
#28: Okay. Don't go over the edge. I want you to
face the edge and look off of your left arm, and
tell me what you see.
#19.5: It's like the edge of a can or oval.......
vertical stripes, circular edge.
#28: Tell me about the surface you're on.
#19.5: Metal...... plate.
#28: Describe it as it goes off away from you.
#19.5: Goes around the corner. ...slight bend left.....
#28: The surface goes around the corner?
#19.5: Yes. Around a round wall.
#28: It goes around something.
#19.5: A round wall.
#28: Okay, now from where you are right now, look
in the direction. of the X that I've indicated.
Look towards the X that I have indicated on the
blank sheet of paper for you.
#19.5: Okay.
#28: Now, describe where that is from where you are.
#19.5: Right hand, round wall, left hand, ...straight in
front to the X.
#28: Distance.
#19.5: Far...far edge of round wall......60 feet.......
60 feet......
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#28: Okay. Now, from where you are move along that
line to the X.
#19.5: Okay.
#28: Look up.
#19.5: Sky.
#28: And down.
#19.5: Concrete.
#28: Further.
#19.5: Large, open area, support walls, water.
#28: Okay. Come back up.
#19.5: Okay.
#28: Now, on the X, standing on the X, right on the X,
behind you is from whence you came, what is off of
your left hand?
#19,5: Wide, flat roof.
#28: What is off of your right hand?
#19.5: Vertical section curved wall.
#28: And, what is to your front?
#19.5: Curved wall going to the right.
#28: Move vertical up 100 feet.
#19.5: Okay.
#28: Exact 90 degree angle from the vertical,
360 degree look, describe prominent feature.
#19.5: Pancake with a piece missing.
#28: Continue around in a clock fashion and pick up
another prominent feature.
#19.5:. Aha.......
#28: You're not looking down. You're looking 90 degrees
from the vertical.
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#19.5: Tall spires to some kind of pipes sticking high
in the air.
#28: And, continue on around.
#19.5: That's all.
#28: Now, I have a separate exercise for you that
pertains to this problem. I want you now to set
aside the imagery, set aside the imagery that you
have. Holding it in thought, deep in thought,
set it aside from your consciousness for a moment.
Now, visualize a ruler, a 12 inch ruler.........
a 12 inch ruler.
#19.5: Okay.
to me.
#28: Now, turn it in your mind, rotate it. You are
in control of the ruler. This ruler is 12 inches
long. This ruler is also 12 months long. Look
at the ruler and it will show you the best time to
get satellite imagery of the X location. The ruler
starts Read the ruler
#19.5: ....first
we call this, third (phonetic) we call this first
week September, first week October, first week
November....end December... never mind, third week
December.
#28: Okay. Describe the ruler itself to me.
#19.5: Flat edge, white pulse, ticks on edge...it's
white pulses.
#28: All right. I'm. going to give you a new ruler.
This ruler is made of platinum and has etched in
it only one mark. That is the mark that will be
........pertaining only to this particular problem
that we are working today. The one time that will
answer the question of the Intelligence problem
of today. This is the platinum ruler with only
one mark on it. Read the ruler to me. SGIA
#19.5: Just a minute .............
#28: Very good. Take yourself beyond the confines of
my question. Take yourself through time and space
focusing now on the project concerning the
installation that you've been working on for several
weeks. Take yourself beyond the confines of my
question and explore and comment as you see fit.
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#19.5: See, see a connection of water that's. not, not
where the party's involved.... deep impression of
ballots, ballots of war, but that didn't. apply
to the incident.... impression that....this
incident is based on other grounds. It's just
happen chance that the grounds coincide. Sense
a different intent.. That's all I get.
#28: Okay. Focusing now, a little narrower towards
the actual site that I have shown you... photograph,
the damage that you reported. Go now, today, to
that site and describe the activity to me.
#19.5: The final touch is on the exterior, interior of
being applied (phonetic) but the damage crux of
the building are still missing. It's like the
damage guts have just been cut away. Just
building that is repair.
#28: I have no questions. If there's anything further
now's the time.......
#19.5: That's all I have.
#28: Focus your attention now back from the target
orienting yourself back to my voice to the room
here. Move your arms, move your legs.. And,
remember so that you may draw the perception.s
which you have had.
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REMOTE VIEWING SESSION 855
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#19.5: Okay. Page 1. This was the central building,
I guess. Over here is some kind of a square
building which I11.1 draw four circles on.
And, these are...... putting Xs in them because
I think they're fans or something like that.
My pancake is over here...what I call a pancake.
Just like a dome roof or something. One time
I didn't. get the impression that the pancake was
raised off the roof, but the next time I did when
I turned around and looked at it. I was getting
these vertical steel or concrete beams along the
edge. My original position X wise was right where
I put the X and I'l.1 label that A. My secondary
position that I wound up in was where I put my
second X which I labeled B. So my area of
observation, whi.ch I will draw with a dotted line,
in all cases, even moving me from B back to A was
like under this dotted line. Which was probably
a radius of about 25 feet. Now, I will draw a
dotted line around the area where I perceived to be
very severely damaged as far as roof collapse and
all that sort of thing.
#28: Okay. That is not necessary for this. If you will
just label drawing number 1, write the word
orientation on there. That tells us where your
perceptions were , and that's fine. That's what
we wanted to know.
#19.5: Okay. Now, I should write in my north, south....
#28: What you perceive to be north, south.
#19.5: Okay.
#28: Because we know, sometimes it doesn't, match other
people's north, south, east, and west.
#19.5: I.got...I don't know. where the stacks were. I
can't remember. This may be, as you know, 180
degrees out of phase. North, west, south, and
it doesn't. matter if it is. Okay, talking about
what ...my impression was of what was going on
inside this. dotted circle, under the X labeled A,
which is where I always perceived myself going back
to. It was, I perceived that prior to damage, and
there was possible three levels of building.......
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...following damage there was one huge, massive
hole that went all the way to the bottom.....
This huge, massive hole that went all the way to
the bottom, I perceived to be smoothed over, filled
with something smoothed over and a new, steel
reinforced, concrete floor installed, and then.....
construction of main interior support walls.....
of steel, reinforced concrete, and some kind of
metallic shielding of some kind. New I beam
structure supports for the ceiling, and then a
new roof, concrete, metal shielded roof, and
that's, it.
For some reason, I come up with a different
number of levels between ....... I perceive a
difference in the number of levels between when
it was originally whole... suffered this.....
this destructive, whatever, and then was rebuilt
again. It's like they made it smaller inside.
That's all I can add,
#28: Okay. You have not seen this picture yet of the
damage here. Based on what you have told me in
drawing number 1 here,-now I realize you. are not
in your usual perceptive state here, I have placed
a number 2 X on the page. Number 2 X on the page
indicates the area that you have in number l there.
#19.5: Okay.
#28: Drawing number is indicated on the blank page.
#19.5: Would you like me to indicate where 2 is?
Number 1 is here. I mean your number 1, you want
me to indicate on my drawing.
#28: No. Let me try this again.
#19.5: Okay.
#28: On this blank piece of paper I have drawn another
X because after seeing where you have indicated
you were in this general area on this reactor
building here,...that is here ....... you did not
describe the area indicated by my original.....
number 1.X. Now, that means to us that maybe
that area is unimportant and the other area is
much more attractive. Looking at the orientation
of the Xs now, do you have any other opinions as to
the original perception? As you said, you always
seemed to go to this number 2 area. But, I'm
interested in my number 1 area.
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#19.5: I would say that A. they are very close to
on.e another, and B. the...I believe that I am
going to .......I hesitate to say oblique angle....
I sense that it is..... I think that I am going
to the area in which damage was supposed to be
directed. Although the actual damage does not
reflect that, because they had to go in at an
angle-to get to this area. In other words, I
believe too,..wha.t you've indicated as your
2 X, as the area that they desired to damage.
And one is the area that reflects damage.
I don't. know how to explain that.
I sense that your area 2 is somewhere under the
pancake. Wait a second. I sense that your area
1 is somewhere under the pancake. Which you've
marked as area 2 is where my position was here.
I think that the, that the attack on this facility
came from. the left direction on my paper and was
forced to enter, okay, through a less than desirable
angle...to try to achieve a strike on some hardened
area inside the building. That's my impression.
And, I think I'm going into that hardened area
inside the building. That's. just my feeling.
#28: When you read the transcript back you'll see. that
the last few minutes are very, very mixed up.
#19.5: Okay. I'm either in the wrong, my, your two and
one are confusing me or I'm in the wrong place.
#28: Okay. We'l.l try again. The. two that I have
indicated is, in fact, the area you are describing,
the reactor building area.
#19.5: Okay.
#28: The one here is the area I_wanted to know about
which is not the reactor building area.
#19.5: Okay.......... I agree with that statement, but
I disagree for my own viewing reason. Your area
one that you've indicated is part of the reactor
building. In that, it's. connected to it. Okay.
I sense that it's. a...it's an integral part of
the reactor building in that it's utilized for
research off the reactor, and......and there's.
a physical connection between the two. I want
to say that it's some kind of a tunnel or hallway.
I hesitate to say tunnel, but it's a hallway that
I keep seeing. A lit hallway, okay. And, I keep
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seeing ...pipes-and I see these things like....
what do.they call them......they're very much
like wave form guides, but they're not. Okay.
And, that's. not the only one. I see three of
these. So, this ...your X one is possible some
form of ...smaller building connected but it's.
or standing to the side, but it's got a direct
connection to the reactor.
#28: Okay. Your session certainly tells us about area
two. You always seemed to be attracted to area
two.
#19.5: Yes.
#28: And, now that I show area one on this blank piece
of paper you feel there is some connection between
area one and area two.
#19.5: Oh! There's definitely a physical connection.
I keep getting this impression of this lit
corridor.......full of equipment.
#28: Okay. Now, let me ask you another question......
Is there damage to area one?
#1905: Yes. In that, area one is such. an essential.....
area two is such an essential part of area one.
There's. definitely damage to area one, and that
it cannot now function.
#28: Is that the result of bomb damage to area one
or because two no longer functions?
#19.5: It's predominantly because...now, I would be
hazzarding a guess to say bomb damage. What I
keep getting a vision of now is the end of this
corridor filled with rubble. Now, I don't know
which end of the corridor it is, to be honest
with you. I really don't know.
#28: Aha (affirmative) I realize that in the......
#19.5: ......but there is bomb damage to area two,
severe bomb damage. And, yes, that does affect
area one. But, there is also rubble and. a lot
of debrie and damage at the end of one...at the
end of the corridor.
#28: I understand that what we're doing right now is
very unusual and we're having a conversation about
something that we usually never do because you
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aren't able to operate in your normal perceptive
mode. I'd.like to move now on to drawing two.
Your second drawing being that of the time frame
of August when you saw some repair work being
done in drawing one, or what is indicated on the
blank paper as area two....
#19.5: Okay. On drawing number 2., I've done another top
view of this same building...the same orientation
as I had on the previous sheet. Putting myself at
the X, labeled A, and the impression I had was the
exposed support walls which I'll label in, and
steel type roof structure. Also got an impression
that down underneath all this mess they were smoothing
over a new concrete floors and touching up the...
that sort of thing, and that they were preparing
to pour new slab work for the roof. You know, and
recover this dome that. They had completely dismantled
this entire dome section and rebuilt it, and it was
right in the midst of all this construction. That's
essentially it.
#28: Okay. And then, the concept of going back at present
time......
#19.5: Oh! Okay. Present time.,.it's. all the normal
building. It's-all there...some very minor changes
to it, possibly. I see some additions of some
extra walls and things, but it's all there. They've
done the touch up to the exterior, the interior and
now inside the guts of this building...... what's
in there like pipes and pumps and all these extraneous
metal things tubes and everything... have all.....all
the damaged sections have been completely scissored
out and been removed. That went on when they were
cleaning up, and now they are in the process of
beginning to put this interior back together again.
#28: All right. If I understand what you're saying, you
perceive the building to be pretty much gutted now,
and not operational.
#19.5: Oh, it's not operational.. They won't, be operational
again, I would guess for another year, anyway,
providing they could get everything they need.
#28: Just from looking at it...it looks to you like
there's, a.lot of work left to do.
#19.5: Oh, yeah. A lot of ...you know, the real time
consuming stuff. Finish work.inside, checking out
you know, welding seams, and all that sort of stuff....
reinstallation of pumps and repair of pumps.
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#28: Okay, are there any other comments you. would
like to make?
#19.5: No.
#28: Okay.
Fine. That will do it then.
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