TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-37

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• Publication Date: December 9, 1980
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INSCOM
GRILL FLAME
PROGRAM
CLASSIFIED BY:NSG,DAMI-ISH
a.~ DATED: O51 3OZJUL7B
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-37
1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted
in com liance with a request for information concerning, the activities of
SG1A
2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided'
as raw intelligence data, and as such, have not been subjected to any
intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of
the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the
document Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (5),
undated.
4. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing
information provided the remote viewer.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-37
#66: This will be a remote viewing session for 1400 hours,
9 December 1980.
PAUSE
1A
Relax and concentrate now. Relax. Focus your attention
MEMNON whose picture I have
shown You. Relax, relax, relax. Locate
and describe his surround-
ings to me.
+05 #10.5 I'm feeling, ah, couple feelings. One that, a, like looking
down a set of parallel hallways..... Feeling of.........
funny front'a felt in a room. Like I'm in a central on
it's -oke of, couple hallways and at different angles, and
then, room left is the two parallel hallways.... and then
I got him, ah, some sort of a room with a, a wall bunk
and with a classic (phonetic) jail cell thing, a, feeling
the floor ah, bars. There's some fascinating thing on the
wall. Sort'a rounded and...it was down from the wall like
a....pants presser'found at bottom (phonetic). I had the
feeling him, feeling...side of a wooden bed, wooden frame
bed. Sort'a low to the floor. Not really that nice.....
Feeling as almost the room is open on both ends-like it's
got bars on both ends. Like it's stuck between the two
parallel corridors or something.
#10.5: Keep gettin' this feeling of him sitting on the edge of
this bunk. Something is above him and bind ...on the
wall. I don't know what. Something definitely hangs
down and over here. Sort'a sitting on the bunk, ah,
head in hands, ah, chin on hands.....took care of the
side of the room, ah, -spose sink, exposed sink, ah,
toilet can be observed from....the hall. The room is
very open an area. Flow through feeling there's no.....
there's no, ah, corners or nooks. He's right out
in front of everybody ...............
SG1A #66: Sit down next to
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#10.5: To (phonetic) feelin' two things. He's .....asleep
in the bed, and he's sittin' on the side at the same
time.
#66: Sit down next to him.
#10.5: T- there (phonetic).
#66: Now, _ has been communicating, radio communications
VP1A using code. Put your arm around put your arm
around and move now, move now forward in time,
~O11A
SSGG A
SG1A
mope now wither forward in time, mote through space
through time in space with _ to that one point, to
that one point in s ace/time where ill reveal this
code. Move with through space in time to the
point, the one singular point where will reveal
this code through all time and all space. Move now
and as you arrive and reveals the code, simply
be an observer and repor
+10 #10.5: Gettin' ah, .....working on it, I got something, so,
let me watch.....
#10.5: He's, ah, standin' in the.....docket, and he has it
before him a large, black notebook. Reminded me of a
notebook with black covers with crinkley (phonetic)
When I first had looked, I thought it was hand written
then decided, umm, hand........ then when I looked at
the covers....were lighter and flimsier...um, but not
crinkley, like an old-fashioned bible ................
and something about lambs and sheep. He's thumbing
through the pages. A feelin' like it was, ah, 'nuff
(phonetic) much more in the front than in the back of
the book, and it was in the lower left-hand corner of
the page, and that it, ah, like he was pointing at
something, concerned with something, and that it had to do
with lambs and sheep...... Let me work some more.
+20 #10.5: It could be (phonetic) dom (mumble) to use, a....
passage from the bible to use as do his work. I'm
gettin' all these vibrations of the affrontry of it all
.....the brazenness, the...affrontry of it all to......
actually for him to have actually used the bible...to
have something to do with this......the pages-in.this
thing, aren't (mumble)....glossy, shiny, glossy, like
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#10.5: As he is turning back and forth through this.......
through the book ...... .... . ..... . ................
SG1A +25 #10.5: I say how do you make your code, - How do you make
your code? What is the key to your code? And, he turns
back to that page in the front and points, and he says
that's easy. It's very easy. .....................
I'm on the page now..........Ah, I don't know. I think
it's like a two-digit, three digit number with.....two,
one being the first two numbers ....... ....I, ah,.....
I know, on the left-hand side of this.....page there are
big squiggly things at, in the rows down the left side
of the page. Big things like........ blotches on the
page.... like maybe, ah, ornate capital letters would be
or something like that. Ornate. I said, ah, how do
you do this, and he, he pointed, I take the words I need
.....I take the words I need, but he's still pointin'
to this one word, sheep, whether it's just example....
#66: Tell me about this place that you're located. When you
go through space in time to the point at which he
reveals the code...when you travel with him, through
space in time to this point, tell me now about this
place and this time that you're in.
#10.5: I'm in a courtroom, British courtroom, Magistrate
wig, ah, powdered wig, sitting, ah, like a closed courtroom
he stands in the docket that faces the Magistrate which
is like a podium.....to his right, ah, possibly only 5 or
6 people. I don't even see anything to the left of 'im....
as though he's like standing next to a wall on his left,
but he's speaking to....maybe a prime Magistrate and a
group of people.....I got black and white like big
ceremonial wigs and stuff, but, ah, may be a group of
lesser prosecutors that sit below, and to the right of
the big guy, the main guy, and he's...acrossed, maybe
20 feet of....open floor, and is, ah,....speaking from
this podium thing, and in front of 'im on this is, this
podium is this black book that he thumbs through ........
I'm having overlay in this problem because I'm familiar
with systems like this.
#66: Okay. In your queries with him, is this in fact a bible
or another kind of book?
#10.5: I think it is. I think it is a..... ah, something as, was,
that was the thing about it, was that it was the..... least
likely but obviously the most likely, because he's not
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#10.5: supposed to be who he was, so, therefore, a little twist
of the knife, and, ah, that was the thing about the
affrontry of using a bible that j'fas a codex (phonetic)
...$as the key.....and, $as, ah,....... there's something
about this black book which appears as o ~ersized in his
hand, that, ah, like larger than life, in the sense that
it is still more like a notebook size, and one of our
small bible of recent edition. It's more.....larger
and square proportion.....with a flimsey, ah, this fake
leather cover on it that is.....has this false drane(phonetic)
it's black and it's thin covered..... tr-'\v,
SG1A #66: Is M being truthful as he explains this code?
#10.5: What is truth, ah, that is about which is spoken. Of course,
I'm being truthful. I ...have nothing to lose...........
I'm.....seemed to have drifted off of it in response to my
own question.......I'm in a corner of a room, as though
I'm in the back of a bookcase..... from about elbow and shoulder
high, about a corner edge...is where the book is kept all
the time...usually, I can't figure out why I'm in the
back. .....Oh, I know why I'm at the back. I'm at the
back 'cause I was lookin' at the page edges, anyway, so......
in order to see the page edges, and not the binding, I
have to be in the back...... of this....open bookcase....
Seems to be more tall than wide. It's overhead high, and
appears to be like open framing, not solid, but open
framing like a....just 4 uprights connecting, ah, shelving
so you can see through it.....I want to say the book is
on my right. Outside, it'd be on the left end of the
shelf that is possibly 10 to 12 inches higher than the...
the desk or table that is in front of it.....So, back
to, ah,......my old friend here....
#66: I have no further questions at this time. If there are
any closing comments that you have please make them now.
#10.5: Just give me a couple minutes..............
PAUSE
#66: Meditate....Allow me to turn the tape or. You may.
continue....
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#10.5: That's all I got.
#66: Okay. Let's draw the perceptions you've had.
#10.5: Okay. Sketch one. Bare room. Bars at each end of the
SG1A room as though our good buddy- could be observed
from, from either of two corridors that the room was
located between. A bunk on the right. Some curvy thing
that reminded me of the thing that dry cleaners use to
press slacks. It's like this thing that....yeah, it motes
and it's curved on the bottom for pressing type. I
don't know. It's on the wall behind his bunk. Across
from his bunk, he's alone in the room, by the way, across
from his bunk is just a bare toilet and a bare sink. No
partitions or anything, so that he can be watched, I guess,
at all times, anyway. That's sketch one.
Sketch two is imagery that actually occurred before sketch
one. As I was just acquiring the target, I had this
feeling of these two parallel corridors coming off of
some main central area with cement blocking all over it
.....some sort of a.....mmmmmmm, middle-aged modern
building, you know. Maybe 25 or 30 years old, but, it
was cement block. Like an administration, more like a
a prison would be. Okay, when I moted in time to the
SG1A point when describes what it is he was supposed
to be doing, I, app-, I guess I mod forward in time
because I ended up like, at the point where he's
testifying before some sort of a....British mode of
Magistrate system, ah, in which, and it's not a trial
by jury; it's a trial by Magistrate type thing, ah.....
or a hearing of some kind that he's in front of. In
other words, there's not a bunch of people sittin' around
passing judgment. It's as though there's a principle
magistrate with _a wig and robe, powdered wig and robe type
custom, and then off to this greater magistrate's right
side is like a lower bench, a long bench, in which there
are maybe two or three lesser magistrates sit out to the
side....like a tribunal or something..... and I sort of
equated them with like being the state prosecutor, in
that type of thing. I don't know. Ah......that's in
the foreground, left and right, center and right, I
mean background center and right. And, then on the fore-
SG1A ground left is - is standing in like a podium area.
It was almost a5 though he was preachin c. !e's standing
in a docket...it was the word that came to me immediately.
Ah, testifying like, and off to his right are like several,
there are, there's room for a lot of people to sit on the
right, but there aren't a lot of people on the right.
He's testifying in front of a closed court, and there are
only five or seven people sitting in this area of, of
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#10.5: rows of tables and chairs. Whereas, you know, there
could 'ave been a hundred people in there, but it was
closed. There was only five o r seven in there.
SG1A Okay. Back to and the docket. He's reading,
he's, he's pointing to this book, and this book, which
I looked at, resembled a, ah, it was resembled a notebook
at first. A loose-leaf notebook.with black covers on it.
And, the pages were glossy. As though he had glossy
fillers, and there was some feeling of handwritteness
about it. But, then I said, wait a minute. Look at this
thing again very closely, and I got back in to look at
this book. The book maintained its original size of
like 8, by 10 notebook size, but the pa-the pa-,the cover
the binding on it had this crinkley orange, but__blark
crinkley orange peel type of covering, and I got this
feeling that it was a bible. Maybe not even in a...well,
of course, who knows what the foreign tongue is there...
some sort of a bible in some sort of a tongue which is
different in size than what the bibles are usually in the
United States. They're usually like 6 inches by 8 inches
at the most. But, this is a little bit bigger than that.
It's notebook size. Black, orange peel type, groved
co r on it, and the cover is when I looked at the second
time became much smaller, thinner. Became thin, like
about a texture of what a duotang folder, ah, maybe a little
bit thicker than that, but certainly not the heavy cardboard
of the original notebook idea that I had. The pages
SG1A remain glossy, and - was spending his time, I forget
what it was he said to me several times in there...that's
on the tape, but was spending his time.... pointing like
down to the pages. Like this is where he got the word
for his messages from where the, from the pages of this
book. And, I remember it being generally considered to
be a really quite disgusting situation that some commi
spy like this would actually have the guts to use a bible
as being his codecil (phonetic) whatever, and I remember
him feeling sort'a like, well you smucks, what do you
expect me to use, you know. You know, it was sort'a of
like this superior feeling of ha, wasn't this a good one to
pull over on you guys, you know.
Anyway, I crawled across the pages of this thing. He's,
very spontaneously I got the feelin g that a passage
regarding lamb and sheep, lambs and sheep in some sort of
a quasi-bibical...or some sort of a....what do you call it...
proverbial sense. was maybe being used as an example.or:
something. I don't know, and that is located like on the
bottom, upper part of the bottom half of the page. I was
crawling across the page on the left-hand side. He's
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#10.5: pointing to it. I was trying to figure out what page it
was, and I...I felt like that it was like 213 or 214 was
the page number.
Okay. So, by this time....I'm familiar with codes and
cyphers, particularly, you know, this type of thing, and
I'm saying to myself, sort of sub-consciously saying to
myself, well, this is really, this is too easy, you know.
This went out when....you know, this type of a system went
out ages ago, you know. You use a common book, and you use
common page number and line number, and everybody knows
what your messages are. Ah.....okay. So, anyway, that was
all I was getting was that, and I sort of felt that it was
a little unrewarding, but, I mean, you know, if this is
what he wanted, and you asked me if he was being truthful,
and I thought he was being truthful about it. I didn't
necessarily think that this was all of it thought. I sort
of felt unfulfilled, I guess.
SG1A All right. So, while I was sitting around, - was
speaking at the docket. Like making his confession, or
whatever, I guess I asked, well, maybe something I can do
is find out where this book is. So, I said where is this
book hidden, you know. Where, where did he hide this book,
something. I popped to sketch four which is a familiar
sketch, but my view of it was really twisted. I was around
in the corner looking out at the back of the bookcase in
sketch 4. And, this black, ah, bible, prophesy thing with
big splotches of possible fancy paragraph lettering, which
I failed to mention, but, okay, do later, is located on the
wall end of a shelf in this open book shelf, which sits by
this doorway, which I take it to be the same place as in the
session last week.
Ah, I had him writing, doing something at the desk, listening
to earphones, and the only way I can describe identifying
the shelf is relative to another feature in the room. In the
foreground is a table top, and the plane of that table top
cuts across the shelf, cuts across the bookcase, and the shelf
is about 8 to 12 inches above that plane of intersect. And,
that's where he keep, kept...figure out where you're talking
about. If I talk about while he's in the docket that is where
he had kept the book. I'm talking about here, and now.
This is presently is where he keeps the book, unless the
book is already b---policed up or something.
Okay. After that, 4, number 4, sketch 4, I sort of still
was feeling a little unresolted, and, oh, let me go on....
sketch 6 is a close-up of the book as I remember looking
at it. Some sort of fancy dan printing with big bl---
printing inside of big blotches. Like first letters in
each paragraph something is on it, and again it's the glossy
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410.5: pages, and everything. This is what he had before in the
docket or on the podium...he was talking. Okay. After
having gone through all this and being so preoccupied with
this book, I felt that there must be something more. And,
I think this was about at the end of the session, and
you sort of gave me some free time to work.
Right at the very end, very, very end of the session, before
ah before you terminated the session, I'm hovering around
SG1A and he's in the docket. I'm sort of throwing
s a emen s at him like, you gotta be kiddin' me. This
can't be all there is to it. I mean, this is.....I was
incredulous, is what I was, I was incredulous in the
sense that.....I was just the-you want to call it.....
the elementariness of the whole system thus far described
and the archaicness of the whole system th described.
SG1A I really was sort of appaled at a guy like was just
be doing that. And, as I'm sitting there sort of throwing
these questionable, questioning vibs out watching him in
the docket, he reaches down beside him, I can't tell if
it's inside the or if it's on a little table just outside
the docket, and he holds up.....the thing that looks like
a pocket calculator, something.... he holds something up
in his hand that is.....calculator like. It's black plastic
and metallic, electronic, something funny like that, that's
a little bit bigger than the palm of his hand, you know.
He holds it up, and he's like showing it to the Magistrate
like, this was only the first part, and then I had to do
it with this, this is the second part, is this thing that
I'm holding in my hand. And, that was just at the very end.
That was when I was in the free-flow type situation.
#66: Okay. Anything else you want to add?
#10.5: Nope. That's about it. That's all I got.
#66: Okay.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-37
1. (S/NOFORN) Prior to the session the remote viewer was shown the attached
picture. He was told that he had focused successfully on this individual
before and that his task for this session would be to first locate- SG1A
at the present time.
2. (S/NOFORN) During the session the remote viewer was asked to find that
point in future space/time when would reveal his communications code. SG1A
Once the remote viewer located this point he was to report what he discovered.
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