TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CD-59

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• Publication Date: June 20, 1980
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CD-59
1. (S) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request from SOD, 33, OJCS, Pentagon, Washington, DC.
The purpose of the session was to provide information relevant to the
hostage situation in Iran.
2. (5) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided as raw
intelligence data and as such have not been subjected to any intermediate
analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information
provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document,
GRILL FLAME Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
.4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during the
remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing
information provided the remote viewer.
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5. (S) The remote viewer was asked to locate .PCber7t Oluckr and describe
his surroundings. He described ffluchar as being in a hospital/clinical
environment that appeared to be located on some type of installation,
possibly military. The viewer stated that there were approximately 20 peep
in a ward-like room but only 5 or 6 of these people were US hostages.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CD-59
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#14: This will be a remote viewing session for 20 June 1960;
mission time is 0900 hours.
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All right #31 the time is 0900 hours. Your mission for today
is to find Robert Blucher. I want you now to relax, concentrate,
focus your attention on Robert Blucher. Describe his surroundings
to me.
PAUSE
+05 #31: (Not audible) I'm getting an impression of
(not audible) of a corridor with a wider pane of the wood
window frame of the right at hand level (noise inteference on
tape) window, I think (mumbling)Dfa series of burliest as in
a ward concept....a ward -4611.1dVter is an the top row of bunks
at the end, and these bunks appear' to be parallel to the wall
in the ward area.
+10 Definite strong feeling of a containment in a mental hospital
11 as being a secure place, and then I had a large, sort of moder
reddish sandstone building. About 4 storeys...appeared
rectangular, and then...and it had a funny level thing on the
top of it...like a half-level on the top, and then I had a
very, very definite shot of a double gate. Doublet wire fence,
gate, security system. Ten yards down. Fifteen foot dead apace
in between the double fence (mumbling) and the conglomerate of ?
white things inside the double gate. As though this was a exterior
security around a a place that I have been seeing inside and
out. The funny white things are like....it was very mixed up....
it's as though it looked like inside this gate something that
would resemble waterurif' 4.or a butt-At wasn't
sewage. It was wa er or a piaff:--Passibly..uh..with tanks and
round dome and it sort of inside...uh...it's near the gate, but
it's not the part of the gate. It's like this place is a closed
unit in itself, and it has all this stuff to run it. My imagery
is not the best. So, let me clear for a couple of minutes, and
try to lock on
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+12 #31: I have a
No. I'm not getting anymore. I'm sorry. I'm just not
getting anymore
#14: We're now ready for debrief.
#31: Okay. I didn't have very good imagery, but what I think
I got was more less remote viewing than it was some other
form of whatever it is.
Okay. The area had.a definitely a clinical type of feeling.
Right off the start. These windows, this is a hallway, and
these windows have white wooden frames. They're painted
white.. It's interior windows. It's on a hallway, and
they're white...uh...what do you call it...what's the paint
you use in your bathroom, because it's waterproof.
#14: Enamel.
#31: Enamel. White, enamel paint, and these windows are.q.,How?
They are at hand level. This is hand level standing.
And this is a hallway. I don't know what's on...what the
rest of the hallway consists of, Hand level, white enamel
window frames, very clinical feeling, okay, and these are,
you know, glass windows, okay, and this is a hall. It was
like I started inside andwas just being. progressively
drawn outside without any control. I have no idea where I
am in relation to number one, but number two feeling was
an aerial how do I draw a ceiling from this point
of view.....ha was an aerial of a string of bunks...
This is going to. be all boluxed (phonetic) up now. Let
me do the bunks first. An aerial view... '
#14: Why don't you use a different piece of paper. Looks like
some shit on that one.
#31: Ha, ha, two. An aerial feeling of a ward. Again, this
clinical feeling came through very strongly
of bunk beds, and I think that there was only one row of
bunks on this side. I had the feeling that he was in here,
the room was fully occupied, but that the guy, if you will
had been buried in a group of other people, and that there
were maybe 20 people .in the room .but, only 5 or 6
were ours. Okay. And, this is a very strong ward slaver.
'Okay. Like a hospital ward or a mental ward or something
like that, all right. Uh...and our guy is in this...he's
in the last one...number four. He's in this...where the
X is on sketch 2. But, these are double bunks, okay.
Like that. All right. That was that feeling. .And, the
room was maybe...oh, the room was large. It was maybe
45 feet by maybe 30 feet. And, there's an exit here. But,
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Nftwe' no door there. It's like the door goes out a little bit,
and then there's a door. You know. It jets out, and
then there's the door to this place.
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Three....was a feeling of a building looking down on the
two, three, or four storey building which had
some kind of a roof within a roof. That's what I was
trying to say. You know what I'm talking about. Some sort
of...a profile would look like this. That's the profile
of the building, like that. All right. And, this building
was a large building. I can do a better drawing than that.
You can tell from the quality of the, of the drawing
ability that the images were't very...they don't have it
all together today, some reason.
Okay. In here there is something that makes...that look
there's an, an interior cap on it. Okay. This is about
4-storeys, and it's a large building,, you know. I mean it's
an.....and it's surrounded by. It sits all by itself. I
thought this was the hospital. Automatically, this was the
mental hospital or the hospital, okay. And, it sits.....
there are It's a funny 4yout. From the side I
viewed it, there's no drive up or anything like that.
There is like a sidewalk around the place, I seem to recall,
but, I couldn't find any drivewalk or parking place. The
whole place was surrounded by green and trees, okay.
The whole place green and an occasional tree. Okay. It
sort of like just sits out all isolated all by itself.
At least from the side that I saw it ...... ......... ........
#14: We're going to go ahead and switch sides on this tape now.
#31: There's a profile. Thea is a view. You ready? The over-
riding feeling here was.that the building was drab, brown
...reddish brown, not a brick, but more like a block, okay.
The whole thing. You know. Sort of semi-modern type
structure. I mean, nothing old with a bunch of ornateness
or anything like that. Isolated, but it's in part of
something, okay. It's isolated within an isolated area,
Okay, ? that's the whole idea. ,So, I stuck off in a corner.
#14: Uh...in other words
#31: This is not in the city This is somewhere else.
#14: Ahhh But, what you're saying is, this is a part of a
complex.
#31: Yes. Right. Okay. Then I got this feeling of double
wire fence which was really interesting. It was a very
definitely..a double wire fence, like a prison compound
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or you would expect around some sort of a military
compound- or something like that. It was not anything
like. what I had seen working against the Embassy......
Then, I definitely saw this double compound...........
Hurrican, chain-link fence, maybe 8 to 10 feet high
type lash up. Like you would find around a SIGINT site.
Almost, you know, that type of a flavor, and then this is
like a double gated thing here okay Jhis.is the
fence and then there's gates, okay, in the fence
I had the feeling that this set out, you know, this, this
was the thing that went around this building, but around
other area. And, I thought it was a large area, okay.
Not like the Embassy area, but a large installation or
complex type of situation. Okay. Double chain-link fence.
Typical compound or installation type security. And, right
nside this gate, there's is a big...there is a significant
complex... It's not this gate, maybe just-a gate that
services it, but it's on the edge of.the perimeter...the
\\edge of the installation there's this big complex of white
buildings that are funny shaped. Like they're domes, and
there's roundness to 'em. Squares and rounds, okay. Like
water tanks in a complex, and I called it like water
purification or des...I didn't say, but I was thinking
desalinization type of a place, okay. Uh....there are some
trees inside there, and..a.....something big on the left,
it's round on the roght. Okay. I'm trying to remember
how it looked.
Standing like in the background. Tree in the foreground.
A complex of white, small complex of... white buildings with
round domes associated. And the look... The shot of this
was very clear. I was seeing both the fence and the buildin
at the same time. I don't think I was moving. I think I had
moved to this place, and then I got a shot of it. With round
domes associated water purification or desalinization. -Okay.
Now the...you've been to Huachuca? Okay. You know where
..........
he USACC facility is? Where you go to register your CB
radio:
#14: No.
#31: Well, the idea of this is like that, anybody listening to
the tape may realize it, may see the gestalt. But, it's
like.... This is essentially a support facility for
the whole installation, but it sort of stuck off by
itself; not too many people go there. It sort of runs itself
type of thing, and it does a job that's related to what
happens in the facility, okay, but it's a support facility.
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#31: And, it's like a typical sewagetreatment plant. In the
sense that...well, you can figure this out. You can
see what I mean there. Who ever visits a sewage treatment
plant? The only people that ever go there are the workers!
You know. The ones that go there, and and even
then, essentially the sewage treatment plant runs itself
with the exception of maybe one guy there all day long.
Then, maybe the engineer comes out and visits a couple
times and checks things, and checks water levels and
stuff, and then he leaves. Meanwhile, the flunky is still
there, and he just hangs around, and makes sure he turns
the right valve at the right time. That's the gestalt
of this. There's not a mass of people in here. It's
like a remote controlled place. Like it just runs by
itself. There may be two or three people around there
to make sure the water level is up, and that the pumps
are running all right, and nothing smoking or burning, but
other than that, not too many people come here.
Uh....okay, now I felt that in the road goes around, and
that that's the direction to this building in sketch 3.
Okay. It's around over there on the right side from this
view. Possibly where the area of the X is, but it's on
the horizon, okay. It would be far away. It would be
2 or 3 miles, okay. Okay. And,..... .... :there is sparce
vegetation. Not nicely controlled vegetation, like
you know what I mean. Like it was all pruned and clipped
and everything. It was more random vegetation, like you'd
find on Ft Meade type of a place, Okay. Where they just
left the tree standing in the...you know...that type of thing:
Now, at this point in time, with sketch 4,1 was beginning
to wonder, now where in the hell am I.....and...the only
( thing I pulled out of that is that I think I am in the
Teheran vicinity. I am far away from Teheran, but I am not
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so fa away as to be in another city. I am on the outskirts
of Teheran in some sort of an installation which is med al
or is mili ar an in in e e ica par 0 I, t right
u.en.o he-session w ef?-ataTja?recollecting
is that there was outside of Teheran...we did a map dousing
thing at the very beginning of this exercise...way back in
November, December, and.....one of the places that I doused
was a military facility that's on the outskirts of Teheran.
And, I just sort of had thisOlupl.oh, that's where it is.
You know, _just ocitt_of.Ifffiout...I'm far enough from the
city tee:be -eigijifrom the city, but I'm notlaplated from
the cibut I'm on the outskirts of the cit A d I
just satt,or-spoptangously_oce=vd_tgenejhat, oh well,
th. s_Whe'it is. I'm here at this Oifie17:::.
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,or losed down or reduced military facility............
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#31: Okay. That's all I have.
#14: End of session.
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TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CD-59
1. (5) The remote viewer has been exposed to open source news media
information as well as classified overhead imagery and numerous photographs of
hostage personnel. He knew he would be working against the hostage situation
in Iran.
2. (5) At the time of the session the remote viewer was shown the attached
photograph and was asked to find Robert Blucher. He was asked to identify
Blucker's location, identify any other US hostages, and describe physical
security at this location.
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