GRILL FLAME BRIEFING, 27 DEC 79

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: STARGATE
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP96-00788R002000240013-1
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• Document Page Count: 2
• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
• Document Release Date: June 29, 1998
• Sequence Number: 13
• Publication Date: December 28, 1979
• Content Type: MFR

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DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
US ARMY INTELLIGENCE AND SECURITY COMMAND
FORT GEORGE G. MEADE, MARYLAND 20755
SG1I
SUBJECT: GRILL FLAME. Briefing, 27 Dec 79 (U)
1. (U) had requested that this office provide
his superiors with an orientation briefing concerning our GRILL FLAME
Project. MG Thompson, ACSI, approved the request (including a by-name list
of individuals who could attend the briefing).
2. (C) At 1030 hrs, 27 Dec 79, the undersigned briefed the following
personnel on INSCOM's GRILL FLAME Program:
David S. Brandwein, GS-18
Director, Office
of Technical Services
SG1I
MAJ John Stoner, OACSI
SG1I
3. (S) Mr. Brandwein opened the briefing session by explaining why his
office had stopped all involvement in psychic phenomena approximately
4 years ago. Basically, his rationale amounted to the adverse publicity
that CIA had been receiving at that time plus the decision that the office
of Technical Services was not involved in R&D and that at that time all
indicators pointed to the need for some sort of R&D effort in psychic
behavior before anyone could take some sort of firm position. He stated
that he tried to interest the R&D side of CIA to look into "Remote Viewing"
as a collection tool but that nobody was interested or willing to get
involved in something that might give them some bad publicity.
4. (S) I then briefed our program (see inclosure 1)..the briefing took
nearly two hours. Mr. Brandwein and - had to leave about 1 hour and
15 minutes into the briefing. Everyone seemed interested in the development
of our program and the applications that we are attempting to carry.out.
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DECLASSIFY ON: 28 Dec 1999
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Mr. Brandwein expressed his concern that any information obtained via
our program might find its way into the intelligence mainstream. I
assured him that we were very much aware of that danger and taking the
necessary steps to insure that it didri not happen.
. J
1 Incl MURRAY B. WATT
as LTC, MI
Project Manager
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