GRILL FLAME DOD SCIENCE EVALUATION TEAM UPDATE BRIEFING, 9 NOVEMBER 1979

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• Publication Date: November 15, 1979
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DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
US ARMY INTELLIGENCE AND SECURITY COMMAND
FORT GEORGE G. MEADE, MARYLAND 20755
SUBJECT: GRILL FLAME DOD Science Evaluation Team Update Briefing,
9 November 1979 (U)
1. (U) PURPOSE: At 0900 hrs, 9 Nov 79, LTC Watt presented an update
briefing to the GRILL FLAME DOD Science Evaluation Team. The briefing
was given in the DCSRADA conference room, Pentagon. The briefing had
been arranged in order to provide the DOD Science Evaluation Team a
summary of INSCOM GRILL FLAME activities since the 27 Sep 79 initial
brief.
2. (U) Following personnel were in attendance:
a. DOD TEAM
Mr. Manfred Gale, GS-18 (Team Chief)
Laddie Stahl, MG (Ret)
Harry Holloway, COL
Frank Cartwright, GS-l5
Douglas Tang, GS-14
Richard Montgomery, Consultant
Dr. Jesse Orlansky, Consultant
Dr. Harry Snyder, Consultant
William Stoner, MAJ (OACSI)
b. Briefer: LTC Watt
3. (S) Following topics/subject areas were covered:
a. Brief overview, including # of sessions (195) to date.
b. Training at SRI.
c. New trainees.
d. Operational Tasks
(1) A6E
SG1A (2) CLASSIFIED BY: Director, DIA
DECLASSIFY ON: 15 Nov 1999
EXTENDED BY: Director, DIA
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9 November 1979 (U)
(3) Project= SG1 B
(4) Cuba situation.
(5) Korea situation.
e. Individual capabilities.
f. Future objectives.
4. (S) COMMENTS:
a. Overall, I thought the team was attentive to the presentation.
However, in my opinion, at least 2/3 members were very negative in their
comments in that they really didn't listen to the briefing and their
questions so indicated that.
b. The feeling I received was that my word was no longer valid
since they had classified me as a "believer" - whatever that means -
and, therefore, I could not be objective about the program.
c. I feel, very strongly, that just the opposite is true. That is,
that some members of the team don't want to believe that psychic behavior
exists and refuse to really listen to any presentation on the subject
matter. They find it very convenient to put "labels" on people and
summarily dismiss them without fully discussing the situation.
MURRAY BU WATT, LTC, MI
Project "vr - eer MA ASLrZ,
NOTED:
CHAD B. WHITE
COL, GS
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