MINUTES OF THE MEETING, DOD GRILL FLAME COMMITTEE

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• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP96-00788R002000130022-3
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• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
• Document Release Date: July 2, 1998
• Sequence Number: 22
• Publication Date: May 3, 1979
• Content Type: NOTES

MINUTES OF THE MEETING, DOD GRILL FLAME COMMITTEE
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involved criteria developed for the selection.of sources/viewers.
applied only to RV project viewers and sources.
9. (S) Maj?Watt briefed the Committee on INSCOM RV activities, which
2. (U) Time and Date: 0915 hours, 3 May 1979.
3. (U) Attendees: See enclosure.
4. .(U) Dr. Vorona welcomed the CIA representatives to the meeting.
5. (S) Mr. Graff.briefed the.Committee on the FTD Special Search project,
"HAVE STAR," wherein remote viewing (RV) was used. He provided background
on.the program, information on the protocal developed for this project, and
the results.
6. (S) Mr. Kramar reviewed the RV program currently ongoing in AMSAA.
Copies of the.AMSSA experimental protocal were given to the Committee
members with a request that comments be sent to Mr. Kramar.
7. (C) A discussion of the Army Surgeon General Human Use Review Board
then followed. The Board concluded. that remote viewing is a technology
transfer process and therefore not a human use issue.
8. (C) Also brought up for discussion was the ORCON caveat. This will be
(U) Place: DIA/DT Conference Room, Pomponio Plaza.
10. (S) Mr. Carter briefed the Committee on efforts at Redstone Arsenal to
develop a 12-month program to remotely affect a random process. An over-
sight committee has been established and a draft protocal developed.
11. (U) Mr. Kramar reiterated the necessity to follow HEW and DoD guidelines
for human use.
12. (S) reviewed CIA activities in RV. Actions now a ,'g
includ ana ysis of medical data from SRI contract work and the
finalization of a report which will provide an assessment of nine
laboratories engaged in RV experiments.
lans to send out a proposal to look at enigmas of
include such problems into the STIC Enigma Panel and
invite others of the Community to participate in the program.
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feels tha wor in RV and other related areas may be a potential privacy
act issue and wants the White House legal staff to review US RV research.
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program for individuals
with psychic abilities. -kb 18. (U) Mr. Graff briefed the Committee on a Freedom of Information Act
(FOIA) request for release of the DIA product, "Paraphysics R&D Warsaw
Pact." He discussed options and the necessity to upgrade classification
of some paragraphs.
.19. (U) Yu. Gulyayev has been elected to the Soviet Academy of Sciences
and may initiate an information exchange with the US in paraphysics.
20. (U) Dr. Vorona handed out a proposed press release explaining DoD
participation in paraphysics, and asked for comments by the next
meeting.
21 (U) The Committee members agreed that it would meet every other month
on the second Thursday of that month. The next meeting is scheduled for
12 July 1979.
22. (U) The meeting adjourned at 1100 hours.
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GRILL FLAME COMMITTEE
3 MAY 1979
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Dr. Jack Vorona, DIA/DT
Mr. Charles Carter, MIA
Col Albert DeProspero, AMSAA
Mr. Dale Graff, FTD/TQTR
Mr. John Kramar, AMSAA
Maj Bill Stoner, OACSI
Maj Murray Watt, INSCOM
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