CENTER LANE INTERVIEW SUMMARY CL-984/8211/01

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• Document Page Count: 11
• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
• Document Release Date: May 16, 2000
• Sequence Number: 2
• Publication Date: January 18, 1983
• Content Type: MFR

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66: This. will be a CENTER LANE interview with source #01, time is
0900 hours, 11 January 1983.
The interior of the building in the photograph is perceptible on
11 January 1983.
01: The-four double are glass and a ramp going down-white intersecting..
.hall. (mumble) grays.: on both sides,gray..stone...that has.....
double sweep back staircase in the center, both sides..........
ah..a wide corridor down both ends...... Trying to get a feel for it..
what's going on.
66: I will wait.
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01: They function pretty much like a, like a pentagon, a lot of mix of
military,..different kinds of military. But there's a majority of civilians
making those, playing men's roles.sort of like defense ministry.
66: Describe the impressions you have which make you draw these conclusions.
01: Tense military feeling, a lot of civilians,..higher level of government.
It's like a ministry in itself. That's all I get.
66: Focusing on the piece of this building, the center piece of this
building on the upper floors. Describe the areas of the upper floors
to me.
01: Center is almost all valted ceiling. It's very open like a round open
rotunda type area. Staircase zigzags back and forth on both sides
all the way up. There's really not much in the center except walkways
and corridors ..or balconies..Off both sides are on any given floor
are corridors, appear to be double corridors.... Offices on both sides of
corridors. Some rooms are general rooms, general people rooms.
66: Describe the impression you have which makes you say general people
rooms.
01: See rooms of long tables and many people sitting at tables, talking, very
ornate...It's very club type atmosphere as well like it's-something
special to belong to this, this group.
66: Focus on one of these rooms with the long tables and describe it
further to me.
..dark colored rug, thick plush,..some glass in the walls, very
ornate high ceiling.
66: Describe the activity in the room to me.
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01: Um, group of 5 or 6 standing to one end of the table. Many people
sitting at the table, a lot of papers., folders..it's like
a formal type meeting area, but-informal discussion. Same
atmosphere you'd find at a seminar.... Large table on one side as a..
a some kind of refreshments or something on it.. water, tea and whatnot.
66: Okay. Did good. Move now to an alternate area within this section
of the building.
01: ....See a room with a lot of maps, many desks..people putting pins
on maps and-marking in files.
66: Okay. Move onto another area now.
01: Glass walls, black,.lights of some kind, dots in the glass..blinking....
Just a lot of black glass with blinking lights, dark, the room is
kept dark.
66: Okay. Move to another area now.
01: See offices, a restaurant, a special kind of restaurant,..very, very
exclusive, only certain people can eat here. People in black
coats working there,..very formal.
66: Okay. Now broaden your perspective to cover the concept of the
whole building section here. Describe the activity to me.
01: It's a...it's a kind of major policy and ministry building of some
kind.
66: Describe the impressions to me.
01: Get an impresssion it's a place where a, it's a place where decisions
are made of a certain kind, can't be made anywhere else..absolute
control over certain things here..of world importance.
66: Okay. I have no further questions. But I would like to allow you
a few minutes now to explore and comment as you see fit. Do this
now.
01: That's all I got. Just an immense building, very old. I would put it
at about late 1800's, early 1900's. That's all I got.
66: Okay, fine.
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01: Page 1 is a quick sketch of the top view, which is an open area
surrounded by the sweeping staircases. And this is opened from
probably six up all the way from the ground floor and it's domed
on the inside and everything. And I get a feeling of double
corridors on both sides.
01: Page 2 is kind of like a view of the way the staircase starts out
and it just keeps sweeping back on itself, corridors on both sides
and the main entrance is just facing the staircase. It's almost like a
ramp. It's just a long, slow sweeping type of carpeted entrance, with
a lot of gray stone and marble and stuff inside. It's a real old building.
The only reason why there's not more detail is that this is kind of
a macro approach to whatever the problem is. That's the best I can do.
66: Okay.
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On 11 January 1983, Source CL-01 was i ntPr , i c'wpr- SG 1 A
Source state substantially as follow: SG1A
The center part and entrance to this section of building was very opera. SG1A
This open area extended from the ground floor up to probably the sixth floor.
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way up. There was not much in the-center except walkways arid corridors and
balconies.
Off both sides of the center, on any given floor, were corridors,
possibly double corridors. On both sides of some corridors were offices.
On other corridors were general rooms, rooms of long tables and many people sitting
at tables. There was a club type atmosphere in these rooms. The rooms with the long
tables had dark colored rugs, thick and plush. There was some glass in the
walls and very ornate high ceilings. In one of these rooms there was a
group of 5 or 6 standing to one end of a table. Many people were sitting at
the table with a lot of papers or folders. There seemed to be a seminar
atmosphere in the room. There was a large table on one side with some kind
of refreshments, water, tea and whatnot.
Source very briefly described several other areas within this section
of the building. There was a room with a lot of maps, many desks and
people here were putting pins on maps and marking in files. There was
a room which appeared to have black glass walls with lights of some kind
which appeared as dots in the glass. The dots seemed to blink. This
room was kept dark. In addition to these areas there were more offices
and a restaurant which was very formal and exclusive for people in black
coats who worked in the building.
Source provided some general comments as to his opinion of the function/
activity of this section of building. The area had a mix of different
kinds of military. But, there was a majority of civilians. These civilians
seemed to be playing men's roles. Within this area there was a tense
military feeling coupled with an impression of a lot of civilians and a
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higher level of government. Source compared his feeling of this area to
that of a ministry. Source also stated that in this section of building
certain kinds of decisions were made which could not be made anywhere else.
In this area there was absolute contol over certain things of world importance.
Attached hereto is IXHIBIT I, drawings provided by source concerning
the section of building which he described.
No further amplifying information was obtained from source during this
interview.
AGENT'S NOTES: Source was somewhat irritated during the interview.
He felt that it was riot appropriate to ask him to describe an entire section
of a building. He stated that one might as well ask him to describe a
whole country when what they really wanted was a description of the area
surrounding one missle silo. Source's mental attitude may have had an
adverse effect on his reporting.
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