GRILL FLAME STATUS REPORT (U)

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: STARGATE
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP96-00788R001100440004-9
• Release Decision: RIFPUB
• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 2
• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
• Document Release Date: June 17, 1998
• Sequence Number: 4
• Publication Date: September 26, 1978
• Content Type: MF

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MEMORANDUM FOR: BRIGADIER GENERAL SMITH
SUBJECT: GRILL FLAME Status Report (U)
26 September 1978
1. (S) On 20 September I.met with Colonel Capps, DAMI-ISH,
to discuss the 902d's participation in the development of a
training program in Para-Psychology Phenomena. We had been
advised the week before through General Rolya that the 902d was
to cease any further planning for its concept of training with
the Monroe Institute. I wished to find out where we stood
regarding the program.
2. (S) Colonel Capps related the following:
a. After talks among MG Thompson, Dr. LeBerge, Dr. Verona, et al,
it was decided that this whole program needed to be coordinated
with DOD. Consequently, a working group is to be established with
representatives from all concerned parties regarding the future
DOD involvement in this phenomena.
b. INSCOM would be requested to provide a representative
for the working group mentioned above to act as a coordinator for
INSCOM involvement.
c. The 902d project, unclassified title GONDOLA WISH, was
cancelled. Two factors impinged on this decision:
(1) The Monroe Institute is not cleared for classified
training or information.
(2) The type of training to be given by the Monroe Institute.
It was felt that this training could be categorized as experimenting
with the human mind. If so, under recent legislation, it would have
to be cleared through an office at HEW. MG Thompson did not want to
go that route-until the legal ramifications were thoroughly examined.
d. DARCOM has an ongoing contract in this general area with SRI,
California which is not encumbered by possible legalities. The
probability existed of our satelliting training on their contract.
Colonel Capps suggested that both ACSI and INSCOM provide funding to
DARCOM for Military Intelligence training subject to the approval of
General Guthrie. He opined that $75,000.00 would be good and that
ACSI could probably provide $25,000.00 if INSCOM could find $50,000.00.
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3. (C) Immediately following my talk with Colonel Capps I
briefed General Rolya on where we stood, specifically asking his
OK for INSCOM to provide $50,000.00 in year-end funds as an
add-on to the DARCOM contract with SRI for the purpose of training
some MI personnel. He approved expenditure of the funds. Subsequently,
I coordinated with Colonel Whitt and Mr. Staffone.
4. (C) BG Teal secured General Guthrie's approval for using the
DARCOM contract. A total of $65,000.00 ($15,000.00 from ACSI)
has been provided to DARCOM for-training. We now await further
information from ACSI as to when training will begin and how
many people we are to provide (one or two was discussed as initial
input).
5. (U) For now, ACSI wants the name of INSCOM's representative
to their working group. The 902d is prepared to provide such an
individual, but I recommend that the DCSCI interject themselves
into this project and provide this contract. .eel at they
should be dealing with the ACSI staffers and we should ta'cT our
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