SUMMARY ANALYSIS - REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-11

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• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP96-00788R001000120001-8
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• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
• Document Release Date: December 7, 1998
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• Publication Date: August 28, 1980
• Content Type: REPORT

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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-11
1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request from SOD, J3, O;iCS, Pentagon, Washington, DC.
The purpose of the session was to provide information relevant to the
hostage situation in Iran.
2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided
as raw intelligence data, and, as such, have not been subjected to any
intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of
the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing
information provided the remote viewer.
5. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer was asked to locate Tom Schaefer and
describe his surroundings. The remote viewer described Schaefer as being
on a moving bus with 15-20 other hostages at the time of the session.
6. (S/NOFORN) This session was done concurrently with session D-1O.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-11
This will be a remote viewing session for 0830 hours,
28 August 1980.
Relax and concentrate now. Relax and focus your attention
on Tom Schaefer. Focus your attention on Tom Schaefer,
whose picture I have shown you. Focus. Focus solely and
completely on Tom Schaefer. Locate Tom Schaefer and describe
his immediate surroundings to me.
+02 #31: I guess it's about...many people here...
#66: Tell me what makes you say this.
#31: I. feel like I'm in a bus.....
#66: Are you fixed in present time?
#31: Yes, I'm...I'll give you this and then try again.....
I'm sitting on a...Schaefer is in front of me...very clear
image of a long narrow.. .the backs of many people...and
some men...standing at the end, far away from me....with
funny light squares along the left wall...like in a school
us...seats were undersized-could only fit two people...,,
#66: All right....
#31: My feeling was that when...these were all hostages, and...
the man standing at the end was a guard-at the front of
the bus, or something like that...can't tell, let me try
again.
#66: Start your cycle, then, from the beginning, focusing on
Tom Schaefer.. His location at the present time. Do not
eliminate your previous data, simply go from the beginning
again, and see what your imagery is this time.
+09 #31: I'm still getting...I'm looking at two...a confined place...
I'm looking at a double "T"...bars...Still in a long and
narrow place.....
#66: Move through this long and narrow place and report to me.
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#31: I'm moving back and forth....I'm reliving...numerous school
rides...I feel movement .....There's...something on the right
which appears to be a...open space...on the right front...
past there, there is a...area that goes against the flow,
like a bench, the wrong way...there's a overhead rack on the
right side, but not a...ornately patterned one, rather a
bare and metal one, for just a simple cord or chain to hold
luggage in...there are possibly...l5 or 20 people on this...
I'm seeing these... rounded, fendered, air force type school
bus type bus, the construction, I keep seeing it, rounded
back and...rounded snout that sticks out, painted sort of
a air force green...or a...drab blue. There is a very
narrow isle, and I can see these people on it.... sitting
very passively... they're all...I'm feeling that Schaefer is
sitting with his hands cupped in his lap, that he's in an
isle seat ...feeling that his hands are bound in some way, and
that's what makes them come together in his lap. Every one
has similiar posture -cept--thr-'guy at the -froL who is
riding b pkwa sand standing, leaning against the dou _
+16 think he has a weapon ...slung under his right
shoulder, as one woul y a--BAR ..... _. .,..
I don't know...let me clear and try some more.
#66: Well, I have no further questions concerning Schaefer's
present location. If there's anything you'd like to add at
this time, please do so.
#31: Tried to find out where he was going, but I'm not having
any luck.'..
#66: Anything else then before we draw?
#31: Well, when I first saw this...I looked to the left out the
side, there was suddenly this little window frame, I was
looking out of it, and there was a big sandstone brick
building, not brick, I'm sorry, big sandstone building.
with no windows in the background. It was as though I was
looking at a moving picture, and this building was drifting
off to my left. And that's when I sort of looked around,
and I, right from the very beginning I had the feeling that
I was on a bus..... You know, seems there...
And it was light out. Because, the only reason I know that
is because the lightness of the sandstone, you know, I had
the feeling that it was daylight, still or then or whatever.
I don't know where I was.
#66: Okay. Let's draw the impression you had.
#31: I'll try not to be-, maybe two sketches.
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#31: This is the window, looking left. And there's some kind of
a, something obscuring...in the front foreground......
And like, this was dark. What I'm actually drawing here is
an inset of the window frame feeling. With this windowless
.light sandstone building in the background, with like maybe
a wall, a low wall in front of it. Okay. And then the
feeling of- I was getting these heavy feelings of shoulders,
for some reason I was focusing on shoulders, you know, it
was this repetition pattern of, of bumps.......
And the whole feeling that I had was not the feeling that
I was in a school bus, but in that school model air force
bus, you know, that they use for ferrying people around...
the kind that has the nose, not the blunt nose that we've
got that run around here, it's the, the old fashioned model
bus... Well, anyway, this repetition of ...you know, of faces
ere... okay.
##66. Did you have a sufficient focus to identify individuals
that you saw?
#31: Well, I was sort of befuddled, so I didn't really try to
identify anyone other than this guy Schaefer, and I had the
feeling that Schaefer, when I started out in this view,
Schaefer was this guy sitting in front of the window. I
notice now that I draw the guy behind him having a beard,
but I did not concen-, cause it was so wierd, you know, it's
not the usual expected type if imagery, so I was saying, you
know, I was trying, I was continually revalidating, trying
to say, you know, are you screwed up? What is this, you
know? They can't be on a bus.
So, anyway, we end up with the classic, uh... The right side
is a bare spot, as though there is a bench seat that sits
that way there, like a palet. I couldn't tell if anybody
was laying on the palet. But it was, all the seats came
across and intersect at the isle, but at the right front
there was a seat that went parallel to the isle, okay. And
then here comes the.....okay, these are the seat backs here,
like this..... Old driver there...this of course, is not
drawn in perspective... like an overhead on the rack here is
a, just a simple shelf that has a chain...I'll call it a
baggage shelf, okay, and the guard standing like in the
front booth, you know,.there's the things, you know,. no
passengers allowed forward of the white line unless at a
standing stop. Well, he was like riding forward of the
white line with his back to the front of the bus, and looking
back at thsse people sitting along the aisle, okay? He
was looking backwards ........ you know, like holding on to
the railing-he had some sort of an automatic weapon slung
in the manner that you would sling a Browning automatic
rifle over your shollder and carry it under your arm, or an
M-16 or something like that. It was slung in the horizontal
position. Hanging from a shoulder strap.
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#66: At one point you mentioned how many you thought you could
see.
#31: Yeah, I thought that there might be ahou
in here. The left side was-
#66: Now, I'm interested when you say that.
hostages?
to 20
50
Do you mean 5
#31: Well, no. I mean 15 to 20 passengers. I don't know. I
had the feeling, I did have the feeling that all the people
in the bus were captives of the guy who was riding backwards,
okay? So therefore, by process of elimination they'd have
to be hostages. There are about 15 to 20 of them, there were
possibly ten...there were possibly six seats on the right side
that were full, at two each is 12, and there were maybe four
seats on the other side at two each which is eight, so that's
about 20. There were more on the right than on the left,
but the reason was because of this funny bench thing here,
it like cut out the equivalent of two seats. And I couldn't
say, I'd have to say 20...passengers or hostages, not counting
driver and guard.
Okay, this is interior of...I will call it old school bus type
vehicle with- you know, it wasn't orange, but it was that
type of an old thing. And it was like a, you know, shuttlebus,
with- what'd I say, drab blue or green paint. And I'll just
draw you............
Too damn much to do. The thing to remember is just a
rounded back and a rounded front and the rounded fenders.
And it even had the sliding windows...... Okay, that's about
it.
#66: Okay. Anything else then?
#31: That's it. The only thing I want to add is that, uh, this
sort of sounds totally ridiculous, but when I was asking,
at the and of the session when I was asking myself where
this bus was going and where Schaefer was going ...Where was
Schaefer going, was the question I was asking, where is he
going to? The only thing, I got the sudden thought that
he was going to the Pentagon, and that he was in fact riding
in Pentagon shuttlebuses. One of those Pentagon shuttlebuses
and that it was not what, you know, the situation was not
what it appeared to be at all.
#66: Okay, fine, Thank you.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-11
1. (S/NOFORN) This remote viewer has worked on the Iran hostage situation
for several months. He has been exposed to a myriad of information both
classified and open source.
2. (S/NOFORN) Prior to this session the viewer was shown the attached
photograph and asked to describe Schaefer's location.
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