SUMMARY REMOTE VIEWING SESSION XXIV

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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION XXIV
1. (S) This report provides documentation of a remote
viewing session conducted for the purpose of orienting a
remote viewer to the protocol which will be used in the
remote viewing training program at Stanford Research
Institute (SRI), Menlo Park, California.
2. (S) This remote viewing session contained very little
target correlation from an objective point of view. Ambient
room noise disturbed the remote viewer. The remote viewer was
very depressed prior to the session. He has been having
family problems which have had an emotional impact on him
and has been unable to set aside thoughts of these family
problems for several days. The remote viewer understood the
possible impact of his emotional/mental state on the remote
viewing process. He wanted to attempt a session even though
conditions were not ideal. The "outbounder" or "beacon"
behavior was not ideal. The "beacon" arrived at what he
believed to be the right target moments before the "on target"
time. He then realized he was at the wrong target and sped
to the correct target just seconds prior to "on target" time.
This state of confusion, "wrong placeness", and "I'm not
supposed to be hereness", is predominant throughout the
verbage of the session.
3. (S) The protocol used for this session and which will
be used in later training is detailed in the document,
Standard Remote-Viewing Protocol (Local Targets) by Harold
E. Puthoff and Russell Targ, November 1978.
4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impres-
sions during the remote viewing session. At TAB'A are
drawings made by the viewer reference his impressions of
the target site. At TAB B are photographs of the target site.
At TAB C is a post-session interview.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION XXIV
#28: This will be a remote viewing session. (Edited
for security.)
#28: Its time now to focus on the target. . . #20.5
is at the target location. . . He is looking at
the target. He is observing the area. . . Look
at the target with him. And as he looks at the
target, you look at the target with him. . . .
Describe your impressions to me.
#28.5: It appears to be a very tall square shaped at
the bottom and it kind of, looking upwards,
joins together at the top.
#28:
Relax and focus your attention.
PAUSE
#28.5:
One. . . square, square effect, a pattern.
I don't know.
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#28:
Is what you see outside or inside?
#28.5:
Outside. It appears to be . . . a . . . very
quiet. . . There's not much activity and its
almost like a natural setting. I can't seem
to get out of it.
#28.5:
Seeing a railroad track now. . . Can't seem
to fit it. . . Oh, God. . . Oh.
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#28: Remember, you don't have to tell me what it is.
All you have to do is describe the images to me.
#28.5: A long. . . cylindrical object.
PAUSE
#28.5: (Not audible.)
PAUSE
#28.5: I'm trying to get above it and look down.
(Not audible.)
PAUSE
#28: Describe #20.5's location to me.
PAUSE
#28.5: What I'm seeing is; he appears to be in an area
that's a . . . of little or no activity. As if
he were in a . . . in the middle of a wooded
section but not all woods. I keep seeing a tall,
four-sided object. Lot of space (not audible).
#28.5: I see. . . surrounded by these other tall objects
that round out in a bushy effect.
#28: Describe your relationship, your position to it.
#28.5: I am looking. . at the base of this tall object.
I'm looking upward and I'm kind of looking out.
I'm trying to get up to look down and I can't
seem to do it. I feel like I'm being held there.
#28: Okay. Instead of going out, just walk around
the side of the area. Describe the other side
to me.
#28.5: Its the same in all directions as if it were a
(not audible) cut through the roof or (not
audible) whatever. Possibly, a . . . long,
cylindrical object supported up off the ground.
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#28: Stand on the object. Stand on the object and
look around.
#28.5: I can't see anything around. I'm lost. I
can't look over it. From where I am I can't
see through them and I can't look over it but
I'm outside.
#28:
#28.5:
#28.5:
Okay.
You can't look over.
But I
seem
to be surrounded by a cluttered,
dense.
I
shouldn;t be out there. There's no
way to
get
there. Its not making much sense.
Where
I'm
standing, there's no. . . there's
no way to get there by car, unless he parked
and walked. And it doesn't seem; something is
not right.
#28: Just describe what you see. You're doing very
good.
#28.5: I don't feel comfortable there. I just feel
like something's not right.
#28: Just relax and concentrate.
#28.5: (Not audible).
PAUSE
#28.5: (Not audible). . . one and then the other.
Possibly an accent bridge or overpass. I get
the feeling there is calm, quiet. . . Very
natural setting.
+11 #28.5: I'm not getting any colors. At first it looked
like it was black on white. Like a negative.
It was very strange looking. I could not focus
it. Color. But when I got the object in, there
still wasn't any color. One color that flashed
through my mind earlier but it didn't come back
and that was yellow. Something yellow. I couldn't
I couldn't make out anything else. Something
yellow.
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#28: Describe the color of the cylindrical object.
#28.5: Metallic. Something metal. Aluminum. Iron.
Steel.
#28.5: Smooth. Very smooth. The first cylindrical
object was smooth. The second one appeared to
be rough, coarse. But the first was very smooth.
These objects here which make up this square
pattern, I had the feeling they were red like
brick. Dark. Not a very bright red, but subdued.
I don't understand why I'm there and I can't get
out of it. Appear to be standing on a rough
surface. Not grass, but something that's soft.
I wish I could get up and look down, but I can't
seem to do it. I can't seem.
+13 #28: Describe the color of the surface you're on.
#28.5: Light. Not gravel color, but very light.
Possibly. (Not audible). . . I seem to be
stuck around this. . I can't get out of it
and I'm looking out. Seeing this and this.
#28.5: I can't see him. He must be where I'm looking
because I can't seem to find him around anywhere.
I'm totally lost here. Huh! I get this again,
something, bigger now. (Not audible) stuck.
(Not audible - whispering.)
#28.5: We both seem to be in different places. . I'm
confused here but I can't seem to . . . Its
almost like I'm stuck there and I can't get
out of it. . . And I'm . .
PAUSE
#28.5: I keep seeing watches (not audible).
PAUSE
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#28: Okay. Are you still standing in the same
position?
#28: Okay.
+16 #28.5: I moved once. I got up on the cylindrical
object and looked down but its not very high.
I can't seem to get over it to look above the
surrounding area because I seem to be surrounded
by things.
#28: Okay.
#28.5: Its a more natural setting than man made with
the exception of the cylindrical object and
that tall object.
#28: Okay. You feel its a natural setting, did I
hear you say?
#28.5: There's more natural setting there with some
man made objects.
#28: There are some man made objects in a natural
setting?
#28.5: Yeah.
#28: Okay.
#28.5: Not very much. Very plain, simple.
#28: All right.
#28.5: . . I picked up, on the way there, I picked
this object up. This here. Off-color, this
was where I hit a . . a red color. The yellow
came and went. It just didn't stay but I saw
a flash of it. I don't know if I picked up
something on the way to the area or . . .
#28: Okay.
#28.5: Or. . . Its puzzling at first confusing but I
can't see how he could get there and yet I'm
stuck there. I can't get out of it.
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#28: Okay. Now, I'm going to talk you away from
the target now so that you can move back. So,
I want you to simply sit there for a minute now.
Relax. Relax and concentrate. Relax and concen-
trate. Hold the images in your mind. Relax and
concentrate. And as I talk to you, we're not
going to go up in the air. But what we're gonna
do is we're gonna walk backwards away from the
target still at ground level. Just concentrate
and relax. . . As I talk to you, you're just
going to move back, simply move back. Very
slowly. Very slowly. Back away from the target
and as you move back away from the target. . . .
#28.5:
I can't seem to get away from it. I'm still
stuck.
#28:
Concentrate now on what is it that keeps you
stuck. What is it that keeps you stuck.
#28.5:
I'm confused. I don't know how to get out.
#28:
Okay.
Break
up and
target
Stand
fine.
There's another technique we can try.
away from the target for a minute. Stand
walk around. . . Don't think about the
for a minute. Look around the room. . .
up and move around if you want. . . That's
Don't think about the target now. Just
walk around now. Goof off for a minute.
#28: Okay, now. Now, let's try to look at it again.
Try to go back again. This time you won't go
back to the same position. This time you'll go
back to a different position.
+20 #28.5: I'm turned. I'm turned around. I'm looking
the other way.
#28: Good. Describe what you see. You are looking
the other way now.
#28.5: I see an open . . . Again, I see this natural
setting, but its more open.
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#28.5: As if it were a . . . some type of access to
get there.
#28: Good.
#28.5: Dirt. Brown-colored all of it. All of it.
#28: Good.
#28.5: Well, I felt like I just walked through a
baseball diamond. Ha ha.
#28: Okay.
#28.5: But its not a diamond. Open.
#28: Its an open area and you see dirt. Fine.
PAUSE
#28.5: Again, I'm confused. I don't know for sure.
I still cannot. I can't tie it into anything
like . . . I'm still confused with it. Its
like I'm standing, looking around this area
and now I can see a line of vegetation or some-
thing and its kind of (not audible). I can't
get this. . . out of this surrounded feeling.
#28.5:
I can't seem to . .
move or activity.
I'm facing.
. (not audible). I can't
Possibly an open area that
#28:
Okay, you're facing the open area. You're
looking at the open area. That's fine. Move
out into that open area. Let yourself move.
Focus out there. Pick an object and move out
there. Move out into that area and then turn
around and look back where you were. Describe
what you see.
PAUSE
#28.5: Concentrate and focus.
PAUSE
#28.5: (Not audible). . . (Not audible).
PAUSE
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#28.5:
I don't want to lose it. (Not audible).
Something here. Like that. (Not audible).
#28.5:
Ah. . Wait a minute. I'm still really confused
about this. I don't feel right. There. I
just don't feel like I should be there. Somehow
I feel I'm backing up.
#28:
Fine.
#28.5:
I'm in an automobile backing up.
#28:
Its the right time for that to happen. That's
fine.
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#28.5:
I'm sitting on the passenger side. I see the
window of a car. And its backing out away.
Now, I'm starting to pick up, pick up coming
down the main road here on the post.
#28:
That's fine. That's fine.
#28.5:
(Not audible) I didn't see the car until I
was in it backing up.
#28.5:
I really feel uncomfortable with it. I'm
confused after the first part. I still can't
figure out how I got there. I couldn't find
anything. Although the open area was there.
I couldn't pick up on it. Access (not audible).
#28.5: I'm not getting. . . now. A lot of little
things coming up now. . .
+27 #28.5: I'm out of the area completely. I can't pick
up on anything. Other than, things coming and
going in and out. I think I've left him there.
(Not audible).
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#28.5: (Not audible) (Whispering).
PAUSE
#28.5: Now it came in. It came in and went out.
#28: Hmmm.
#28: Is there anything else you think you'd like
to add to it?
PAUSE
#28.5: No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I
think I've taken everything in. Its just this
feeling of being very uncomfortable with it.
I felt hemmed in. Until I finally got turned
around.
#28: Okay.
#28.5: (Not audible)
#28: Okay. Looking back across your drawings, is
there anything that you want to add?
#28.5: This came and went. I focused on this for a
while. And then slowly, I lost that image.
#28.5: And then I went back here and I was standing
here looking up at this thing.
#28: Um hm.
#28.5: This (not audible). . comes here (not audible).
#28: Um hm.
#28.5: (Not audible). . surrounded the whole area. I
just didn't draw it (not audible) everywhere.
#28.5: No, when I finally turned around, and looked
this way, then I came out into the open area.
#28: Okay.
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#28: How would you like to take another piece of
paper and see if you can refine your drawings
a little bit. Sometimes that really helps.
#28.5: All right. I'm not the #15.5 type. (DRAWING)
PAUSE
#28.5: Well, not to scale. Ha ha ha.
#28: But its to the left of that object.
#28.5: Yes, as I was facing from here, I was looking
up here and looking over here.
#28: Right.
#28.5: Then, when I got to this point, where I was
able. . . when I was on this, and as I looked
down in this direction and over in this
direction, I was surrounded by . . . they were
just. . they were everywhere.
#28: Um hm.
#28.5: And this area was open.
#28: Um hm.
#28.5: Clear. And then I finally; after I got turned
around; No, before I got turned around, I saw
this object. But I didn't know where it was.
#28: Um hm.
#28.5: In relation to this. Or this.
#28: Um hm.
#28.5: None of these seem to be in this area. They
seem to be somewhere else.
#28: Um hm.
#28.5: I couldn't explain it. Then.
#28: None of these seem to be in this area, they were
some . . .
#28.5: Not in the immediate area. They were close,
but I couldn't figure out . . . This one here
seemed to be especially close to the area.
This one seemed to be somewhere, I don't know.
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#28.5: Then I looked in this direction and this a . .
if you will, a tree line. Okay. Open and out
in here was these . . dirts.
#28: Okay.
#28.5: Then when I got out here, I was like looking
like this over here.
#28.5: More like this and this ended up here somewhere
and this seemed to be an access to a . . I
don't know where this came from. Its almost
identical to . . .
#28: Previous (not audible). .
#28.5: Yeah. Except it was . . . well the other one
seemed to be lighter. . This one was very dark.
It was in . . . it was like I was inside.
#28: Okay.
#28.5: You know, like moving. I saw the in but the
light was bright. It didn't last but just a
few earthy minutes.
#28: Okay.
#28.5: This was isolated back there. It appeared to
be a house or something out there by itself.
#28: Okay.
#28.5: This is where I was so confused. I was just
totally confused by that.
#28: Okay.
#28.5: I got stuck here and all I could do was look
up and back this way. I couldn't look this
way and when I got over here I couldn't look
over the tree line. I was just . . surrounded
by it.
#28: Okay.
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#28.5:
Draw these everywhere.
this was just clear.
.
It
. And then
might have
suddenly,
been
something going through here when I
mentioned
to you a . . . like along here was gravel or
rough, rough, rough.
#28.5: It just seemed natural without, you know, the
exception of these things.
#28.5: And that was about it. I really got. I really
did get stuck there and I couldn't get out of
there.
#28: Okay, well we'll see why. I think that that's
really good (not audible). . .
#28.5: I still. I felt very confused. Its just a
feeling that I had, you know, I shouldn't be
here. How did I get here and I couldn't figure
out how I got there.
#28: Okay.
#28.5: So. It appeared almost nonsensical. I don't
know. Everything was there. All of a sudden
(not audible). The confusion being first off
how did I get there? And then, if I got there,
what brought me there. Because suddenly I was
there.
#28: Okay.
#28.5: Maybe I'm a nature lover. Ha ha ha.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION XXIV
1. (S) Post-session interviews are conducted after the
completion of a session to provide the selected Remote Viewer
with the opportunity to express himself concerning his
viewing experience.
2. (S) Several of the subjective comments made by #28.5
during the session were relevant to the behavior of the
"beacon" during the session. One comment which was made
by #28.5, "I felt as though you (the "beacon") were close
by", was particularly relevant in that the designated target
was across the street from the remote viewing room. #28.5
agreed that his emotional mental state had an impact on his
ability to physically relax and concentrate on remote viewing.
3. (S) #28.5 and #28 worked very well together during
this session. #28 was noticeably reserved prior to the
session and was unable to motivate #28.5 prior to the session.
Once into the session, however, the situation improved and
both #28.5 and #28 were enthusiastically involved in the
exercise.
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