SUMMARY REMOTE VIEWING SESSION CC46

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• Publication Date: December 29, 1979
• Content Type: REPORT

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GRILL FLAME
SESSION REPORT
CLASSIFIED BY: Director, DIA
DECLASSIFY ON: 31 Dec 99
EXTENDED BY: Director, DIA
REASON: 2-301-C (3) (6)
G ILL FLAME
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC 46
1. (S) This report documents a Remote Viewing (RV) session
conducted in compliance with a request from SOD, J3, OJCS,
Pentagon, Washington, D.C. The purpose of the session was
to provide information relevant to the hostage situation in
the U.S. Embassy compound in Teheran, Iran.
2. (S) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are
provided as raw intelligence data and as such have not been
subjected to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation.
Interpretation and use of the information provided is the
responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the
document, Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing
Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions
during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made
by the remote viewer reference his impressions of the target
site. At TAB B is target cueing information provided the
remote viewer.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC46
This will be a remote viewing session (edited for
security).
I want you to focus your attention now on the
individual on the picture you have been studying.
Focus your attention on this individual. Relax,
relax and concentrate and focus your attention on
this individual. Find this individual #27.5 and
become aware of his surroundings. Area where he is
located. Relax and concentrate and describe the
area to me.
#27.5 There's something like..uh..sort of a. ? .narrow metal
bed of some sort and he's..uh..sitting on the edge.
His..uh..his left arm is..uh..is handcuffed to the
metal bed. He's talking with someone. The room's
all white and there's caging on the windows. It's
like metal caging. The room isn't very big. It's
like 15 by 12 feet. There's a ...appears to be a
very wide window ...hallway outside. Outside the
room. There's more rooms like these and there's
more hostages in the rooms. There's.. .this building
is made of gray stone. It's like..uh.some kind of
decorative pillar of some sort supporting the..uh..
-doorway overhang. I have a very strong impression of
the.. .appears to be a hostage in the...I think the
second room down from his room.
#43.5 Ok. Relax, relax and concentrate on the target.
Describe this man that is talking to him.
#27.5 He's got a well-trimmed beard, about 5 5, 165 pounds.
His..the [)card and the hair is black. He's wearing
a fatigue hat or something. (Mumbling) So strange.
It's round block for some reason. There's a hood on
the jacket he's wearing. I get the impression he's
trying to.. . trying to just engage. .uh. .engage the
hostage in sonic kind of a talk. He's not armed.
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Getting an...getting an intense feeling of red...
color red...I don't-...I don't know why. Just all
over. Very intense feeling of red. (Mumbling)
predominant color here. Curtains or something red.
#43.5 Relax, relax. Look around the area.. .look around the
area where the target is located and tell me what
else you see.
#27.5 To the right there's a door. It's a heavy wood door.
#43.5 OK. Go out that door and describe what you see.
#27.5 There's a very wide, very wide hallway. Six rooms
to the left and four rooms to the right. Some kind
of a...some kind of gun racks, or something on the
walls, but they're empty.
#43.5 I want you to go to the right to those four rooms
that you saw and look inside each one of them and
tell me what you see.
#27.5 There's a man with black hair in the first room and
There's ...saw...there's kind of a French made van.
I just feel like it's a French van. It's a cream
color. It's parked outside. I get a strong impression
that this is a vehicle involved in hostage situation.
(Mumbling) Maybe 5 ton van. It's very large. Got .a
strong, strong impression of...uh..this may be part
of a some kind of a barracks type building.... police
barracks or something. Just getting a strong feeling
that this is what this is.
Relax now #27.5. Relax, concentrate hard, concentrate
hard on the target individual. Be beside him. Tell me
how you get out of the room that he's in.
Ten days growth of beard. Wears os.faut he doesn't
have them on. Thick eyebrows 7Mumbling) eyebrows meet
in the middle. He's just standing.
Got a old face. Maybe 200 pounds. Very long side burns.
..uh..he's standing by the bed.
Go up to him. Go up to him and look him right in the
face and describe him to me.
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#43.5 Is there anything else you can tell me about him?
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443.5 Relax and I want you to look at him again and
remember what he looks like.so you can point him
out to me later. Just remember what he looks like.
After you have done that, we'll move on. Let me
know.
#43.5 OK Let's leave this room now and go back out to the
#27.5
#43.5 Getting the impression that he's what?
#27.5 Very hard person.
#43.5 OK. Now look again at the (mumbling) study
him so that you will remember him for later on.
#27.5 Has lines around his mouth and his nose. They are
very deep. I'm not sure. I don't think he's in the
room. I don't know. I get a strong... (mumbling)
flashing sensation.
#43.5 Ok. Now relax. Focus your attention now. Go back
to the hallway and go to the next room.
hallway and go down to the next room.
There's..uh..I getting like..uh..flashing images.
I think there's someone in this room but he's not
there now. I see him there and I don't see him there.
It's like I'm looking at an overlay. It's a hostage
but he's ..... think I'm ...uh..I'm seeing two different
Saw very thick set person with either very
times
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gray or blond hair. His hair is fairly long and his
hairline is receding. Has a very wrinkled forehead.
Wears thick glasses. Has a very, very ruddy complexion.
I, I ...getting impression that he's very hard person.
#27.5 I don't find a next room.
#27.5 There's a tablf and 4 chair in this room. I'm not
sure if I'm in" the same h Tway except the room is
the same size; but it's ry different from the other
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1/43.5 What makes you say that?
#27,5 Just a feeling.
#43.5 Describe your feelings to me.
#27.5 Get a...sort of a sterile feeling.I don't know.
#43.5 Ok. Don't try too hard now. Relax. Relax and
concentrate. Focus your attention back on the
individual outside these rooms, and go down the
hallway to those other rooms you told me about,
and look inside them and tell me what you see.
#27.5 The guy with the beard is moving.....is going to
about his eyes. They protrude more than the average
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another room. I don't..uh..I don't see anything
in the next room. There's a guy with a.... he's
a hostage and..uh..he's..uh..he's not handcuffed.
He's..uh..fairly tall person. (Mumbling) a very
difficult time with him.. He's maybe 6 1. Something
p
on no
eyes.
deep indentation in his chin and he's..uh..got very
dark skin.
#43.5 Ok. Tell me what he's doing.
#27.5 He's laying on the bunk, with his hands behind his
head.
#43.5 Ok. Walk up to him #27.5, walk up to him and
concentrate. Study his face so you will recognize
him later.
#27.5 The guy with the beard is coming in this room, now.
I get a game sensation. Strong feeling, all of a
sudden that..uh.. they're going to play a game of
some sort. Very ameable greeting. Going to play
some game.
#43.5 Ok. Anything else you want to tell me?
#27.5 One of the walls in this room are brick. None of
the other rooms had a brick wall. That may be a
..another wall.. .another building. Getting a
sensation that there's a very bright light over my
shoulder. I don't understand that.
#43.5 Ok. Relax. Go outside this building #27.5 and tell
me what you see.
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#27.5 I..uh..get the impression of a very weird sculpture
...partially finished sculpture. Circle of stone
either to one side of the front door or directly in
front of the front door. It's two story building
with very high pitched roof. Maybe three stories
buildings in a row there. Almost identical to it.
Some kind of junk painted on the wall. I can't
...can't see what it says. It's white and red letters.
Uh..appears to be..uh..large green square on the
wall.... Sort of an emerald green with (mumbling) red
letters on top. It's a quick thing... .done by hand.
It's sloppy.
windows are caged. I think it's....maybe two more
with that.. .two stories with attic. Most of the
#43.5 We've been going an for quite a while now. Is there
anything else you want to add?
#27:5 There's a four-lane highway (mumbling) building.
Very thick growth of trees along the highway. YY!
That's all.
#43.5 Ok. That sounds good. Relax now. Sit up now. I'd
like you to do some drawings now.
We're back in business now. I'm going to talk a little
louder because my voice hasn't been coming through.
I'm going to talk a little louder, ok. I don't mean to
wake you up. Why don't you go ahead with your drawing.
#27.5 OK. On page one I got the impression that there was
this room and there was, almost like a GI type bed, but
with a low metal type head to it and that the guy in
this room, AHERN, was handcuffed. Left arm handcuffed
to this metal railing, sitting on the edge of the bed.
There was like a double window here that was caged.
The room was white. Against this wall was a chair
with a man sitting in it. This impression... this wall
went this way with a door here... one door here. . .and
that essentially is the entire inside of that room.
What might be important, I didn't get any sensation of
any other type of furniture. I didn't get any sensation
of any latrine, or commode facilities or sinks or anything
That may be important. So I want to say that. Just a
stripped room. The guy with the beard is talking to him.
Page two. I want to sketch the cap this guy was wearing
because it was a very ......
#43.5 Who was that?
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#27.5 The guy with the beard. I want to sketch his cap
because it was kind of a funny looking thing and
..uh..I got the impression it was a block cap.
Like the old French Foreign Legion cap. This kind of
cap. This guy had a very close crop ..beard. This
sort of impression ...... that sort of impression...black
here. How's that. That's the scale too.
#43.5 What a waste of Government paper (ha).
#27.5 Page three. Outside of this room I got the impression
I was standing in this wide hallway but these room
doors were on the left. Like this, up to the end.
There was nothing down this hallway, except down this
wall there were windows. These double windows with the
caging on them. Very wide hallway. Almost couldn't
call it a hallway it was so wide. Maybe 18 feet. In
between these looked like some kind of framed shelves.
You know. The old World War II kind of gun racks they
used to put in barracks. Only they were empty.
#43.5 Let's just hold on that for a second, ok. I understood
you to say you went out into the hallway and if you
looked to the left there were X number of rooms.
#27.5 X number of rooms, right.
#43.5 And, if you looked to the right ......
#27.5 X number of rooms.
#43.5 OK. Where is the rooms to the right?
#27.5 All of these rooms are in a row like..uh..all the
rooms are down that one side in a row..and..you know..
I'm seeing.... I'm coming out of his room and seeing
X number to the left and X number to the right and..
uh..I'm not entirely sure that's an accurate picture
of how many rooms there are. Because I could have been
standing the one end of the hallway and looking to the
left and going to the other end of the hallway and looking
to the right. I don' L, you know... they're all down that
one side.
Page four. We'll do iL this way. Very wide hallway
and..uh..double windows-then back here is the row of
rooms. I don't really have a clear impression how many
rooms there are. But, for some reason the number 8
seems to be accurate thing ...these doors and double
windows. I felt like I was in this corner room, because
I felt like this wall was brick and, you know, I don't
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know if I was in that room, but I..I felt like I was
in that corner room. If that's true, then the end of
the building could be exposed brick on the exterior,
or it could be a divider wall between two buildings
built together. But, I saw.... I saw ..... I'll indicate
hostages with Xs in the circles. Since there was a
,,~9guy with the dark skin
hostage here, and this is thp
and felt like here was a. a~?~'AHERN. Here was guy wi
black hair and here was uy with blond or gray hair
Now, I think that's the only ones I saw. That's all
I have a clear recollection of, anyway. And..uh..
I'm not going to economize. I'm going to page five.
#43.5 This one here. This is the one that was there and
wasn't there?'
Yeah. The guy with the blond or gray hair was..uh..
images ...call images coming and going. And the
guy that was in here with AHERN..the..we'll call him
a G, the guard, he came out went down to this room,
where I drew the line and the arrow, to carry on a
discussion with this guy and I felt like it was...
they were going to have a game of some sort, 'cause
there was a very amiable meeting.
And..uh..page five ...I got the impression of..uh..
two decorative columns... decorative columns of some
sort by the front and there was a statue .like off to
the side...and the statue was really strange because
I got the impression it was a circle stone that..uh..
defined the area in which the statue set.. .like this
..and that the statue was either incompleted, in other
words a jumble of blocks, that, (mumbling) but these
were all rocks or something. That's page six. And,
of course, the building was gray and there was a big
splash defined area in dark emerald green paint that
had..uh..white and red lettering of some sort-hand
whipped on it.... very sloppy type thing. I don't think
it was ever meant to be on this wall.
#43.5 Where was this van or vehicle that you saw?
#27.5 The van was parked between the statue thing and
the pillars and...I can do a general outline sketch
the way this van looks.
#43.5 Do it scale.
#27.5 - Do it scale. Large front grill type affair. Kind of
a boxed front end. This type of...very, very large van.
I don't know why, I got the impression there was a
French van, but there must be something unique about
this van from all my travels in Europe, or something,
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it impressed me of being French. Essentially, that's
the shape of the van. It was a cream color.
#43.5 When you were outside you described the building, itself
with a roof and everything else. You made relationship
to a highway, too.
#27.5 OK. The building looks like this from the side. There's
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All right. Good. Anything else?
#43.5
#27.5 Nope.
#43.5 What I want to do then is put this on pause, take a
look at some of the photos and see if we can come up with
any kind of identification and then we'll come back on.
two rows of windows with a very, a very high pitched roof,
tile and around on the other side was a four lane highway.
I got the impression of very large trees like up against
the building, you know, growing right in.. .right in this
section, back here. The van was this way and the statue
...like the entrance wasn't facing the highway.. .it was
OK. Now we've been, we've been looking at some of the
photos... photographs that I have and you studied them
for a while to see if we can identify them. The first
individual- that you mentioned was a guy that had black
hair, about 200 pounds, long side burns and could you
narrow down, or pick him out from all the photos that
we have?
#27.5 J/Well, uh..narrowed it down to a possibilit)~of two, two
people and..uh..one of them is..uh TOMSETH,0fl d_tFp othe
showed me, you do not have a picture of that person.
have a picture of that person. Of all the photos you
but long as it's combed over, and you clearly do not
hair..speaking in terms of my military background, i
don't mean long like..uh..over the collar or anything,
is..uh HOLLAND, Leland Holland.
#43.5 Ok. Second individual was individual..thick`-.5et`person,
pray or blond hair which was long with receding hairline
and thick glasses, ok.
#27.5 Ok. Let me clarify one thing there. When I say long
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#43.5 Ok. The third one is a guy that was fairly tall,
about 6 1, eyes protruding, dark skin.
#27.5 came out with two probabilities on this thing, and
he reason why is..uh..well one is Philip WARD and
e is very obvious..similar eyes..uh..there's a
distinct similarity in another man by a man of
GERMAN, Bruce, but I had difficulty in evaluating
the photo because of the eyes covered with dark
glasses, but I get strong feeling for that also, soj
..uh..l.would have trouble deciding between these t.
two.
That's about all the questions I have for this
session #27.5. Do you have anything else you want
to add?
#27.5 Only on the second person, the guy with the blond
or gray hair. He..uh..it's..without full clarity
that I say you do not have a picture of thisman.V
I know you don't. If there's anybody I could
identify, he's it.
#43.5 flow did you feel about the session then?
#27.5 Felt real good about this session.
#43.5 Ok. At this time in the morning I think it's time
to call it quits.
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