TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING SESSION 925

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• Publication Date: June 15, 1982
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING SESSION #925
1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted
in c_ampiirteewith a request for information.
2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are
provided as raw intelligence data, and as such have not been subjected
to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation
and use of the information provided is the responsibility of the
requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the
document GRILL FLAME Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol
(S), undated.
L. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions
during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings and narrative
provided by the remote viewer. Target cuing information was a sealed
envelope containing two photographs. At TAB B are the photographs
which were in thb envelope and shown to the remote viewer after the
session.
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REMOTE VIEWING SESSION #925
#66: This will be a remote viewing session 0900 hours
15 June 1982. This will be a pre-session briefing
now to the remote viewer. At this time, I call your
attention to an envelope containing two photographs
of a target building. These are the same building,
but are taken at two different angles, so there may
by two different perspectives from which we see the
building. Your mission for today will be to focus
your attention in present time on the buildings ?in
the envelope. Having not seen the pictures, of course,
you will, at the end of the session, be asked to render
drawings,sketches and descriptions,of the buildings.
#01: Building, right or buildings?
#66: One building, yes, one building. , So that when I show
you the pictures of the building, it will reinforce
your feelings about having contacted with the target.
It. will also be necessary to investigate the building
itself. And I have several questions prepared to
ask you about the building, once we have target contact.
So this morning, we are concerned with describing the :
target buildings and exploring the inside of the
buildings to respond to the questions that I have about
building. Do you have any questions at this time?
#01: No.
#66: All right. Let's prepare then for today's session.
Relax and concentrate now. Relax, relax, relax and
focus your attention solely and completely on the
target building in the photograph in the envelope....
Focus in the present time on the building in the
photograph and describe the target to me.
#01: Get a..slight "C" shape building, almost rectangle. Two
stories, maybe three stories, see a flat shelf like
extension out around the second floor, seemed to. be
evenly spaced, vertical lines, on the front. Double
glass doors.
#66.: Go through the doors and describe.
#01: High, square,open foyer, counter straight ahead. Getting
a lot of reflection, marble in reflection, white walls.
This is an entry foyer.
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#66: All right. Sit down in the entry foyer and wait.
#01: Something cluttered to the left. Squared staircase,
open vertical lines, black.
#66: All right. Are you alone here in this foyer?
#01: No. Groups of people busy, apparently somebody wearing
gray suit or gray uniform, like counter, corner of counter.
#66: Describe his activity to me.
#01: Standing, hands on belt, wearing heavy belt for some reason,
like uniform. He's stopping people from going through a
small barrier.
#66: All right. Stand there with him. Stand there with him.
#01: I guess checking badges, I.D. card type things.
#66: All right. Now, move out the entrance you came in, move
out of the entrance you came in. Move up"- and away to
the oblique and now we are going to use your special vision
to provide a doll house perception of the target building.
Now as you look at the building, with your special vision,
is as a doll house, seeing all the floors, all the rooms,
all the stairways, all the walls, all the people, all the
activity. As you have discovered this building, of
,importance in this building, is security. The concept
of security is important in this building and as you are
up and away at the oblique, able to perceive all of this
building, let your mind drift from security to the concept
of vulnerability. Vulnerabilities are far and ranging,
can be people, can be procedures, can be structural.
Stepping back from the building, thinking vulnerabilities,
describe the present vulnerability.
#01: Too structured, everything was done the same time, same
.check, same time. Everything is locked up the same time.
No variance of schedules.
#66:
#01:
#66:
#01:
Describe exploitation of perceived vulnerability.
Just a minute.
Waiting.
See a ...lack of, lack of separation between the power
junction boxes and the internal phone system, no filters,
no filters on the phone system. See no flexibility_in
the security, too rigid. Breeds false sense of security.
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#66: Raw data.
#01: Saw mental checks by guard just seemed to be too rigid.
memorized check lists...he just, no understanding for
threat and susceptible to, like double layered ploy, hand
quicker than eye type maneuver. Just rigid. I think
phone lines are susceptible, without gaining entry.
#66: Raw data.
#01: It's clean phone lines all the way through building. No
internal phone filters...Also people entering are subject
to having devices implanted on their person, on them
anywhere. This guard is too rigid, it's like no imagination,
no understanding of threat.
#66: Focusing on the present time window, search for present
exploitation.
#01: Keep going back to phone system. Keep seeing someone in the
service type, service type uniform, like cleaning people
or something.
#66: Describe the activity of this person.
#01: Carrying device in and out, including the up limits. Phone
system susceptible, near power junction, see it at the end
of a hall, left wall, end of hall.
#66: All right.
#01: And there is like closet, where, a service closet something.
Think it's cleaning crew type person.
#66: Focus on this individual. Approach this individual and
determine what he hopes to gain? What is his goal?
#01: Any knowledge of, knowledge of some surrepirtious planning,
illegal planning, sudden, feeling of controlted basing of
illegal activity, activity not generally done from this
building, some kind of control and planning.
#66: Describe for me , the area from which you would get this
information.
#01: Specific person's office.
#66: Describe his office.
#01: Impression of tall ceiling, very small office, maybe 10x12,
wood paneling. Just a minute. Very light, light shades,
very light curtains, high windows, multi.xolor carpet,
leather chairs. Got, not a very important person, but_has
control, authority.
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#66: Ask yourself as you stand in this office, ask yourself,
how might I discover this exploitation?
#01: Just a minute I got some kind of decorative handle on
box here, cabinet, also keep following edge of rug for some
reason, edge of carpet, dead center, back of seat, cleaner,
it's going away change, fastest defeat is to change
office,..change cleaning crew and tear old office apart.
#66:
#01:
All right I have no further ques-40nts concerning the target.
Take a moment to review in your own mind the perceptions
you've had concerning the target and feeL:now to explore
the target and comment as you see fit.
Need, building needs innovative, innovative security.
Someone's not afraid to upset the system, break things,
orders too rigid. It's to be disturb. That's all I have.
#66: Okay, fine. Let's prepare now to draw the perceptions you've
had.
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DRAWING NARRATIVE
REMOTE VIEWING SESSION #925
#01: Okay, Page #1. This is my perception of the building.
Remember saying it was two maybe three stories. .There
Might be a third story on this. I don't know what
these vertical lines are. I don't know if they're supports
or if they're some kind of decorative thing. And I'm
not sure if I got them all in there or not, I'm just
representing the vertical line. Felt like all the windows
were high up, so put down,windows-:_high. There's the entry
door, the entrance is sort of recessed and it's some kind
of reflective material in the doors, they may be metal or
they may be glass. It's a "C" shape building, but resembles
a rectangle, this "C" kind of indent is in the rear of the
building.
,Page #2, I perceived this to e an entry foyer like area,
When you come in the doors/ directly to the front/is some
kind of counter with a, we'll put down "P" for person, behind
the counter and there's a door on the right that was closed.
There's some kind of low railing or gateway on the leg,
that just swings both ways and on the other side of that
is, what I circle a "G" and call that a guard. And
immediately passed him is an up stairwell on the second
floor and a hallway and everything. And that's who you
have to go through to gain access to the rest of the Wilding.
#66: Okay. Almost immediately in the session here, you perceived
that there was some sort of security control on the building.
#01: Yes, this guy is not, I don't perceive him to be a uniformed
type person, but he is a guard type person, security type
person. And he is very rigid and very formal about his
security duties, which makes him very susceptible to, you
know, this hand's faster than the eye, sort of thing. It's
like heh. reads his rules and regulations daily and follows
them to the, letter and that's the easiest kind of person
to bypass, ?cause you know what to expect from him, you know.;
you can use slight of hand on this kind of person and that
sort of thing.
#3 is the hallway, I feel,for some reason)feel like it's
at the south end of the building, whatever that means. And
then there's an outside exit door,-that's always locked.
First door ih,on the other side of the hall, what I call
the left side of the hall, is a door which is like a utility
type closet, but inside is all the power and phone
switching boxes and whatnot. And it kind of surprised me
to see that there's no filtration system or anything on
the phone, so you wouldn't even have to gain access to this
room, to do any kind of manipulation of the phones.
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#01: But .gaining access to this room would be a real joy,
because you could latch in any office or any phone in
the entire building.
Number page #4 is a small office, what I described as a
small office, with a desk and easy chair and the things
of importance here are, I forgot to put in edge of rug,
where I put an arrow for the edge of rug, the decorative
handles on the cabinet towards the face of.the office, and
the rear of the seat back, for some reason. And this is
a very small office and it's curtained at one end, which
I labeled curtains, and windows very high up, call them
high windows. And I felt that the only way to defeat
anything in this room would be to just take the person
and his papers and move him to another room and then
just dismantle this room piece by piece.
#66: Okay, now this room that you've done in #4, comes to your
mind when I say, this person who is exploiting or may
exploit or has the ability to exploit the vulnerability,
the security vulnerability here, he would go after or seek
out information from this room.
#01: This room, right.
#66: The room drawn in #4.
#01: Right, exactly. And I also feel like this is on a second
floor, so I'll put in.
#66: Okay.
#01: And the information I feel like they're seeking is, this, !
building is here for a purpose, but subliminal to that
purpose is some form of illegal organization or some
organizing of illegal activity. And this person'that
works in this office is in charge of that organization. 1
And that's why this person would be targeted.
#66: Okay.
#01: That's his real job, incidently, not to support the real
purpose of the building's existence.
#66: Okay. Now, in your impressions of the target building,
what is the largest or most overwhelming impression that
you go away with in this morning's session?
#01: Some kind of_paliticAl. front type building, you know, it'
a political_front. I can't, I don't know what to add tb.
that.
#66: All right. And when I addressed.the security problem and
what is the vulnerability this building.may have, I'm
trying to keep it secure, what is the vulnerability?
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#01: The biggest vulnerability is the cleaning crew. And I
just get an impression that, and it's not so much the
people in the cleaning crew, Okay, as it is the implements
they're carrying in and out. You know, like if I was
going to target this building, I would supply them with
their cleaning implements and they would not know that
they were carrying my collection material in and out, or
my collection devices in and out. I would provide them
with, you know the broom handles that they're going to
lay up in the side of the utility closet or they're going
to cart around with themitrash can liners, that kind of thing.
So that's a very big vulnerability, because that's, you know,
the most cursory checks of the cleaning equipment and also ;
the second, what I consider probably the most vulnerable is;
the phone lines. You don't even have to get inside the
building to hit these phones, the entire phone system in
here.
#66: And you had talked before about procedurally speaking.
#01: Yes, it's too rigid. There's no innovativeness in the
security. It's like they have a set of secure rules that
they follow. And observing and recording those rules and
coming to familiarize yourself with the rules, you would
find ample opportunities to do the, you know, the slight
of hand tricks against these people, that think they have,
it's like, they believe more in their security than it
really is. I don't know how to explain that.
#66: They have a false sense of security?
#01: Yes, a very false sense of security, because they're following(
their rules for security tothe letter. When in fact, just
the lack of innovativeness?for instance, if I was to guard
on,this post, and the cleaning team was carrying in their
stuff one morning, then I would surprise them by saying,
okay, put all your cleaning stuff over there, because this
new cleaning stuff over here is what you're going to use
from now on. Your not going to take it in:and out anymore.
Then I would take their cleaning implements and cart them
off and .tear them down piece by piece, and check them
outtlhat kind of thing. I would also change the personalities
of the people, not change the personalities, but change the
people, so I had different personalities working different
jobs, continually, you know, that sort of thing. I don't
know, there's just some complacency here about the security.
It's like, Be on there from 9 to 5 doing my secure thing,
and_I'mmaking my bucks everyday and I'm keeping my head
above water and I'm not getting .caught doing anything wrong,
or allowing anything wrong to happen.. Just that kind of
complacency, you know, there's no drive there, to prevent,
so to speak. Best I can do.
#66: Okay. Is there anything else that you mould like to add about
your perceptions about the session today?
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Get a...Slight "C" shaped bldg, almost rectangle.
Two stories, maybe three stories.
See a flat shelf like extension out ardound the second flo r.
Several evenly spaced, vertical lines, on the front.
Double glass doors.
High, square, open foyer, counter straight ahead.
Getting a lot of reflection, marble and reflection,
white walls. This is an entry foyer.
Something cluttered to the left. Squared staircase, open
vertical lines, black.
- Group of people busy, apparently somebody wearing
grey suit or grey uniform, by counter, at corner of counte
Standing, hands on belt, wearing heavy belt for some reaso
like uniform.
He's stopping people from going through a small barrier.
Iguess checking badges, ID card type thing.
Too structured, too uhh, everything was done the same time
Same check, same time.
Everything is locked up the same time.
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15 No variance of schedules.
Just a minue. See a.. lack of, lack of separation between
the power junction boxes and the internal phone system,
Ino filters, no filters on the phone system.
18 See no flexibility in the security, too rigid. Breeds fal
sense of security.
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Saw mental checks by guard, just seemed to be too rigid.
Memorized check lists., he just, no understanding for
threat and susceptible to, like double layered ploy, hand
quicker than eye type maneuver.
Just rigid.
I think phone lines are susceptible, without gaining entry
23 It's clean phone lines all the way through building. No
linternal phone filters.
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Also people entering are subject to having devices implant d
on their person, unwittingly.
This guard is too rigid, it's like no imagination, no
understanding of threat.
Keep going back to phone system. Deep seeing someone in t
service type, service type uniform, like, cleaning people
or something.
Carrying device in and out, including implements.
Phone system susceptible, near power junciton, see it at t
end of a hall, left wall, end of hall.
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Think it's cleaning crew type person.
Any knowledge of, knowledge of some surreptitious planning
illegal planning.
Sudden feeling of controlled basing of illegal activity.
Acitivity not generally done from this building, some kind
of control and planning.
Specific person's office.
Impression of tall ceiling.
Very small office
Maybe 10x12, wood paneling.
Just a minute. Very light, light shades, very light curtains.
High windows.
Multicolor carpet.
Leather chairs.
Not, not a very imprtant person, but has control, authori
Just a minute.. I got some kind of decorative handle on b
here, cabinet.
Also deep following edge of rug for some reason, edge of
carpet.
Dead center, back of seat, cleaner, it's going away.
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Need, building needs innovative, innovative security.
Someone's not afraid to upset the system.
Break things, orders too rigid.
It's to be disturb. That's all I have.
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