ARTICHOKE CONFERENCE, 18 JUNE 1953 WITH COVERING MEMO
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- Office VIC"; , die(.117C1Z1713 � UNITED ATES GLERNMEN
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a. Returned herewith are the letters and encloszres of 19 �11.=e
3953, reference
� Also returned is the letter preoarcd aver the signzture ofg$444
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2. - and the writer have eed the'letter
very carefu_ly and believe that it excellently states the position �
Of this Agency and quite properly suggests a joint underta.ang zacng
the...lines discussed. . .
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-- tives (probably&fttgarelefty) at the com.lx.g 12.TICZOK.F., meeting
.. tomorrow, Thursdiy, 16 .Jilly 1953, will bring this vezy interestf_-4
� probl= u-, for. general discussion since in our opinion it is of ex- .
trerae interest to 41RZECHOL3. �
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-:- .. . 4.5.. The writer discussed withartile Prot'os-71 of a' nt*ItteliC
team. from the ARTICEOI:".�; groui to carry on the work Idth the t-c7.-',!.��.- .
officials. The writer told L.-- -�igftz�-.. he felt the, -Va. team comoose-:
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equipped to cover all field. And to lay en prelirinary work and .
- aisoussioAs with tl.telig-f officials. 2t: -S--r.conva-red in
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1. On Thursesy, 18 Juno 1957, �En KiZT.CHC:= Conference as
held in the 30 Conference IZeon,igeff^' fren 2:C3 to 4103 7:1.
Present vere t-nd�raV
reprezentin;; 30; d Cr. Sidney .
Gottlieb representin T33: Cr.r../CM-=- reprosenti..-13 the l:era-
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cal Staff r-id 2�CPre.lerstin3 th3 DIM etZr 1 S Office
and WI. In additionike--is-spee'....1"-vrzis- 4-0 41/
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.�4,1_. 2. i:ML;E�- ' opened the conference by introdueinr F......--
. �:���evz4r011-as the representative tron
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3. discussion vas then held coneerninc the "Ple.stic" maze
Ida& expla.i2r-1 in general the details of the case to .
those present not famil_23.4 � vith it and .broucht the ratter up to date
insofar es ART.T.C:=1 interest vas concerned.. It as a----eed the ease
� lad not been proporly hane.led end that, in the future, 17--ertant-
.developzents such as the :-lostic" c.zso should 'co nlo With Cree:
, speed and; If necessary, r: reprezentzt.t've of the ;ZS:IC:M:2 prov-.-..:21 �
'should proceed to the area to obtain as soon as poss.:11)1e the best
�-available info=ation.r
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..� 4. tr.-e:...rer.t.rteld on the 14-ork beg in done in the
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of. rd.treot-zr- and .-2:27areaco.�ic.,tdMeg*- ��1���=. 3-.4 in this
� field there- were�vez7 st.:ron: in4icatione that certain rluzhr. oen-5
� definitely_afiected the inrian nind ad fro.-1 a sbientific point of
I viol there vas very little factual infor=tien
expla....4n0d. that arranzenents had bean made for :the collection,
��- cultivation, propazation and test.ins or certain poisonous '-
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r.mshreezas by different asencies both cover=erita1 end private.
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.5. Follovin:, this, Dr. Gottlieb cal-o a very brief report. en �J
iq.e.zite of the�activitic-,s of the special vork_carried on
��4�4:61/4''''.'--in � e 1.4in iich his cavlsien is materially in-
terested and also ca=nted-on the uork. of the Chemicz.11 Cores
in lines or interest to Arala:0;:13. � -
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6.4*FgrafilkipeicA-1.ented concernin; the fact that 'there Lire
in=eroue that affect the autonaale and central nerroue - ��
of tho hzezan bein.; And ra.tr,.-...stcd that it would p,...rhz...2s r.ot ha wise -
to waste too 'r.us;"..to in =scare% alien; lines where. there is littlo
-established infornaticn: . �
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Pollouinp; this, iigigiake, explained that the litcrattre
on rushrooms clearly indicated that the :Zussians had used �,-....Lehroo:-.s
Sor centuries for their 'narcotic eff.,ct, that drinks nada of :lush-
roor..s had been vsed to produce into:deation in Russia =Id possibly
have been used for other pur7oscs. also co..-r:ented on
.the use of narcotic r.ushret,�r.s by :"..a-clean indions in tribal. =re-
monies end in other intereztinz uses, Followins this, there was a
general discussion concerning nus:ireaus.
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vork �to-bo ciiii�onli:OLitigb had rLei into a seca.--ity
since one of the 1:ey nen te-bei used in the project
-in a current El, investitation and that his ofiice zs brin,--Ing
every pressure .to bens. on CU. to find out the revolts of their
� investizz.-tion and to find out whether we can use the inc:ividual
involved
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possibility of usinT.sinilar setups or setups having good potentials:
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� 10. 14....,,..):EfrWfollig:ad'this up by stetinz that preposed
vork - .1 was probably cut on Zecurity �
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- . iour.x...s 25 cne of. the key...tic:a:es involved could not be secarly'
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41. .latta. eV." the spreathix out of the 411-1.1�.L..C.....s.""..;7.1
L.1fOrk and the and =awls by ezhich 122ICE.7.2. vas secu...--ing in-
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cleared t-.:enty to thirty top-level exports in certain scientific
*Sields and perhaps thirty nore. =ere in the investigative
that irould be used in the future for.centects.' ''�� ,*
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- 32. Follow-11r ',:0:2esdiscussed the Valley rorr�
� �i. question and 'stated that nothin; ,--
of � -re.= had turned
- . lip, at Valley Zc,re. "cle stated there ras a chance. J.7..1.7=1:2: tech-.
�!. - 4-� � - � . � agues could be broujat to bear in the future on feu or the ,
� � -.�- rnatecory." cases, but these feu cases would be scattered over the
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Tinitod States and be personally doubted if 4..'..-^�woulci be interested
.in baying these nea bandlc.d by A2ZICHO:-.7. ne-tbods. -�� �-.
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.- the i.o:on2.1c3 '-7-''''*-$6==.,:v.- andtgaiiilig= ro,nrtcd Vrit. .::,-.�.- �
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tho ;;:tor---73�. �al 1.-hich ha then hold.
Veglitifhigia stated tlu.tig:Wggii.. 1:?.5 r.aking� ever; effort. ho could,
.. but. to �tato,11611411066R had been anablo to obtain oven the r.edlcal
�� historiee. on the 1.::-.!i�iiduLl, a involved anek for thi:.� reason his York
vas proce.zding vcr;f.r.louly.. stated that this repro-.
Dented a tr.lic.:13. e-camplo of zormr=t.2.1" red tApo a.-xl Va.: loc:c of
,. action =Id co-ordination Yes possibly costing .the United Z.totas
"*. Cm-dam:tent a greet cloal of intelli;once Anforzation. � �
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. . than stator! that report on certain � .
victie ol! the poiaoning yhora.ho Zn had "191..4.-ustrtiab ;MS
no-..r in rfft'aMfggpeat office z...n "'d-IMIV'statcd that art0-
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15. Follcuine this. �thcre 17425 a dizcussion on tho handling
: of the eiskeregrimakrofti, a.-nd all hends ig�eed.that ono of the
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werJaresses of the ./.7enty appal=12:.7 :MA the fact that Clore vas a
�. great do23. of difficulty in Cettin7 factual iatorr.ztion quici
r_rem io.a. 'sources. : � ��: .
16. reported on io.;_e or the botanicals that .
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had boeh oloteined by * -stritsc.1 that the
girst Yoe: on et.'":19o.c thee b.DtZr...i.cals had sho-zi sone good requite
but. that consirlerablo tork yes 3t112. to bo� don before positive ro-
sults could be obtainc.d,
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