BRIEFING ON THE C-123 CRASH IN NICARAGUA: SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE, 10 OCTOBER

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Approved for Release: 2023/05/18 C00788192 BEST COPY AVAILABLE OCA 86-3575 10 October 1186 mEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD SU8JEC7: Briefing on the C-123 Crash in Nicaragua: . Senate Foreign Relations Committee, 10 October 1. The CIA and State Department briefed the Senate ?e:- Relations Committee on the circumstances surrounding the recent crash of a C-123 cargo plane in Nicaragua. The statement and questions/answers dealt with the crew members and their past contacts with C/A, the level of private resupply efforts to tte Contras, and related issues. Testimony was given by the OD� and Chief of the Central America Task Force for CIA; the State Department spokesman was Elliot Abrams, Assistant Secretary for Inter-American Affairs, with back-up on legal questions from Principal Deputy Legal Advisex Michael G. Kozak. 2. Chairman Lugar presidOeFever the three-hour session. Attending the full briefing vseliSenators Pell, Evans, Kerry,' and Harkins. Senators Durenbocihr, Biden, and Dodd attended a portion of the briefing. 3. The following SFRC s members were present: Geryld Christianson, Barry Sklar, M alcoff, Cream* Bannerman, David Keeney, and Rick Messi Al Lthn of the Majority Leader's staff attended. sr pport staff intermittently ir the conference room were Bar Allem, Elly Voghtminn and Leticia Padilla. Other State officers were Williams Walker, Louise Hoppe, Ed Fox and John Egan McAteer. Other Agency officers attending were Norm Gardner, Special Assistant to the DDO, and David Cries, Director, OCA. Anne Horowitz prepared the transcript. 4. In his opening remarks, Chairman Lugar made the following points: - The briefing would be held at the TS/Co-word level; responsible officers of each organization shouldnimpwaham to vouch that their representatives had these cleatioces. - Because of developments in the past:, serious questions had arisen concerning the U.S. GoveriliSi cols in Central America. One particularly important limas vas th. CIA involvement in that region. ALL PORTIONS 1488002 Co 3 34 (b)P' ANIAoproved for Release: 2023/05/18 C00788192 Approved for Release: 2023/05/18 C00788192 e - The Senate Ma:ority Leader had submitted several zuestions which he wanted specifically covered by officers giving testimony. :o State and CIA have information on the number of Americans working in Nicaragua, the nature of their involvement and their relationship with the SandinIsta Government? Do State and CIA have information on private U.S. support to the Contras? Can the briefers comment on possible violation of the U.S. Neutrality Act? 5. Senator Lugar also mentioned the Los Angeles Times article of 9 October which reported the existence of an elaborate system for supplying tie Contras, involving some 19 aircraft. ��.74: 6. Senator Pell stated timer:it would have been possibly' useful to have had a Defense Dsrtment representative at the briefing. 7. Assistant Secretary statement: presented his formal - The bodies of two icans killed in the crash would arrive on 10 October a roximately 1400 hours in Miami. The coffins contained ashes, with skulls. The coffins had been left at the entrance of the U.S. Embassy in Managua. - A Consular Officer had not yet been allowed to meet with Mr. Basenfust his spouse had been allowed a 45 second meeting in front of the news media. - The Executive Branch hoped that the Congress would protest publicly about Nicaragua's refusal to al1205,4!ftsular access to the American. ;2'.14r* � � A.',V'e - � - The two Americans killed in the cratle74011Wii*t employed by the U.S. Government. State Department had no specific f . algt Americans residing in Nicaragua or what theit-talinlibaski 2 1488002 CO � C Kt. T � AmmIADDroved for Release: 2023/05/18 C00788192 Approved for Release: 2023/05/18 CO0788192 might be iith that Government. There are probaoly severe: thousand Americans in that country. - An elaborate supply system has obviously teen established for supporting tne Contras. There is no U.S. S'overnmeht involvement in it and great care is taken not to :et involved. while State approves of the private effort to kee; the Contras alive, it has not taken any specific action to appeal for help -- no letters, no specific requests. 8. State Counsel .Kozak commented on the implications of the Neutrality Acts. - The Department of Justice is the official' interpreter of these laws. State can give only a semi- knowledgeable account. They involve prohibitions on U.S. citizens to enlist in a foreign military from the U.S., to launch a military expedition from the U.S. or to organize a conspiracy to damage a foreirksovernment from the U.S. 9. The DDO offered his CIA connection with the C-12 contacts wi:h these individu ed statement which denied any its crew. He described past The statement is attached. 10. Assistant Secretary s interrupted Mr. George's statement at the point leadi a description of CIA's awareness of private supply s channelled through El Salvador for the resistance � . State protested that the highly sensitive information sistance of a friendly government, the delicate pol sues involved, and threat that compartmented information would be presented forced the Department to halt the briefing. Without concurrence of the Secretary of State, the joint briefing could not proceed on this subject. 11. Chairman of the SSCI Durenberger stated that he was present at the SFRC briefing because of this issue: discussion of sensitive pttelligence matters outside of the SSCI.:. He pointed out that his Committee was deeply involve4OLIam4versight of intelligence-related activities directed at N 11.He recommended that a briefing be deferred to one �by the SSCI, under procedures of S Res 400, to take p . 141rd secure conference room (Hart-219). Durenberge that he was concerned about the precedence so briefing continue on this subject for the Stti rules of the SSCI, including the work of the CIA. dictated that intelligence matters should be 0438002 3 SECRET Co 0 � Approved for Release: 2023/05/18 C00788192 Approved for Release: 2023/05/18 C00788192=�+- 12. A discusssion ensued over the problem of foreign policy and intelligence issues -- and where the line coult' drawn. Eventually, Chairman Lugar decided that the foreign -policy issues surrounding the crash and the U.S. Government role were overriding. He then spoke at length about the nee'' for strict security on matters discussed at the hearing. 13. Mr. George continued his formal presentation concerning CIA reporting on Contra capability to obtain supplies and materiel for continuing the resistance. 14. A wide-ranging discussion followed in the question/answer period on specific aspects of the crash, identification of the crew, and the nature of private support to the Contras. State and C/A offered the following responses. At this time, no one knows, why Mr. Hasenfus has claimed that he worked for CliwIte might have been exposed to pressure by the Sandinista ; he might have been hired under 'false-flag� circumst CIA had had no con ith members of the crew in recent years; no CIA proprie �s had been in contact with the crew members. /SFRC Members discu Committee might investigate support the resistance. A s Committee subpoena Mr. Hasen was paying his S3000/month salary./ the possibility that the rivate American activity to tion was made that the bank records to determine who (b)(3) C/A has no independent information on the C-123 cargo. Newspaper accounts are the only details at this time. Information developed to date on the origin of the C-123 aircraft indicates that the plane was sold as U.S. military surplus in 1983. The purchaser has not limomm. determin.d1 ic !nig t c o er crash. Ma a CIA does not have extensive flight i activity into Ilopango Air Field, El Salved() know about arrival of aircraft transporting 11403002 4 SECAcl CO (b)(1) vol,Z3) Approved for Release: 2023/05/18 C00788192 Approved for Release: 2023/05/18 C00788192 (b)(3) ;rivet, channels to the Contras. The CIA is proscribed from ccllecting information on U.S. persons -- and would not details about the C-123 aircraft t it cc(b)(1) be assumed that the weapons in the cargo were picrEt up o4b)(3 the U.S. State Department does not make any attempt to meni::: anti-SandinIsta support. Customs Service will take the lead t: investigate the activity of the Southern Air Transport craft. /Wore leaving for the Senate Floor, Senator Durenberger pointed out that information about individuals involved with the plane has evolved in pieces. He based his statements on briefings provided to the SSCI concerning the crash. This situation was not surprising under the circumstances and given the diverse Agency records to be reviewed for a complete picture. In the SSCI view, the Agency has learned from experience; it interpreted Congressional restric- tions on activities in Central America in the strlct- est mode; the CIA expasided its role with the resis- tance only when testi/01one were lifted, allowing at one point the shariagifig tactical intelligence with. the Contras, and latilht training and provision of communications equi Senator Durenberger was of the opinion that ot ntities in the Executive Branch were knowled e of the private effort to support the Contras t the Agency was caught in a squeeze. It was aw f the resupply activity from the end-user view equipment and materiel which had been delivered e Contras. Durenberger suggested that Stet uld do more to help keep the CIA 'skirts clean./ Eugene Basenfus worked for a CIA proprietary, Air Asia, in 1966, as a packer and kicker, and later worked( another CIA firm -- Air America. Be resigned in FebruaPJA11 1974. (b)(3) William J. Cooper worked for Air Asia as satre./ ar Be was inVolVed in the airlift to,AM-gb-iiix Air There is no record of contact with him Al76. co Blaine S kfrican Airlines. 0438002 5 C (b)(3) Approved for Release: 2023/05/18 C00788192 Approved for Release: 2023/05/18 C00788192 -.C/A was aware of Americans at general terms. The Agency conscientiously av these individuals. 1488002 6 DO SECRET ., later waticad for Southern Air Transport. At one point in 19i, he asked to become a staff employee. hut Phis yes d - / fo �ers s (b)(3) There is no defined policy in the U.S. Government which states conditions under which an officer should lie to protect national security interests. Anyone can speculate on conditions so critical that the truth would have to be withheld, at least for the time being. In response to a Senate query about withholding the total story, the DDO stated that he would not lie in a Committee hearing about an individual being employed by the Agency. Neither State nor CIA was aware of an investigation reportedly under way in Florida to determine the origin of the C-123 and its cargo. 15. Senator Kerry began- his portion of the hearing by stating that there was duplicity, in the U.S. position in Central America. He pointed amithat the Administration had - not accepted decisions of thaLIOUld Court, yet complained that the Managua Government was v ing consular regulations by not allowing for Embassy off to meet the captured American. Mr. Abrams stated he wanted the record to reflect that he disagreed vi nator Kerry's views. 16. Senator Kerry had a Central America which were a list of questions regarding id by State and CIA. - Max Gomez and Daniel Medina were mentioned in news accounts as principal managers of the Contra support. CIA was in the process of checking these names; it appeared possible, that Gomez was an alias used by a former Agency contact(W) Identifying information would be provided to the SPRC flopp)e record. - Risenfus' claim that he was working for...the CIA may have been made out of intimidation or may be the 's belief. The individual at the end of the line' might not4isam.the