MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: Library of Congress
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): LOC-HAK-283-9-14-3
• Release Decision: RIPLIM
• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 4
• Document Creation Date: January 11, 2017
• Document Release Date: December 8, 2010
• Sequence Number: 14
• Publication Date: July 26, 1976
• Content Type: MEMO

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iVIEMORANDUM
THE WHITE HOUSE
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MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
PARTICIPANTS: President Ford
Dr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State
Brent Scowcroft, Assistant to the President
for National Security Affairs
DATE AND TIME: Monday, July 26, 1976
9:22 - 10:30 a. m.
PLACE: The Oval Office
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Kissinger: I want to talk about Silberman. I think he wants to
stage another Moynihan. I didn't know there were any differences
between him and the East European desk on the Toth case, except
that we wanted to make representations quietly and he wanted to
do it publicly. Quietly I thought was more likely to get results.
I talked to Silberman twice in Paris and he said he was reassured.
But now he has really erupted. We had made 45 representations on
Toth. Two months ago they said they would release him. That
same day Silberman attacked Yugoslavia on the Toth case. He
couldn't have known, but he shouldn't attack his host government
without telling us. Now he has stories in the paper that the
Department is soft on the East Europeans.
You know our policy on Yugoslavia: They are shits, but we may have
a fight when Tito dies, and if we blacken them now, we will be in a
poor public position to support them.
Scowcroft: I thought about sending him a cable saying he is hurting
only the President.
The President: I like that, except I hate to have anything in writing.
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Scowcroft: Not without the Yugoslavians knowing.
The President: Let's just lie low and let it blow over.
Kissinger: I think that is best.
On the CSCE commission, I seriously doubt its constitutionality.
My temporary appointment will be Monroe Leigh. The problem is
we might have to testify in front of our subordinates. We could get
someone from the outside, so we wouldn't be tied in so closely.
There is a built-in potential of conflict with you.
Scowcroft: The other Departments plan to nominate substantive
people.
The President: Could we find out?
Kissing: I think it is an impossible situation. But if we appoint
legal advisors, they could address only the legal aspects and it
would avoid a policy confrontation.
The President: The other night Dobrynin came up and asked what my
intentions were on SALT.
Kissinger: Did he take the initiative?
The President: Yes.
Kissinger: The sly bastard said you raised it. He asked me if he
should report it. I said sure as long as he didn't say you promised
an agreement -- only a good faith effort.
The Beirut evacuation is proceeding routinely. I don't see
any problems. The Soviets are not making any overt action. I don't
really see what they can realistically do.
I am seeing Botha this morning. If we can get the British
going, we should have this package put together soon.
The President: Brent told you what Callaghan told me.
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Kissinge_ r: Yes. One other problem is that Nyerere may be
backing off. That is the key. If the blacks don't call off the guerrilla
war, the sck.eme won't work. Because the guerrillas would have a
much easier time against a black regime than against,the present
one.
The President: That is true. But how serious is it?
Kissinger: How can you tell with Africans? But if the blacks walk
away from it, I think we have little choice but to back away and let
nature take its course.
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