MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION

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• Publication Date: July 31, 1976
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MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
ON-FILE NSC RELEASE
INSTRUCTIONS APPLY
WASHINGTON
DOS Review Completed.
Simcha Dinitz, Israeli Ambassador to the
United States
Hanan Bar-On, Minister, Embassy of Israel
Or. Henry.A. Kissinger, Secretary of State
Alfred L. Atherton, Assistant Secretary of State
for Near Eastern and South Asian Affairs
DATE AND TIME: Saturday, July 31, 1976
8;45 - 10:05 a. gyn.. (breakfast)
PLACE: The Monroe .. Madison Room.
Department of State
if?
Atherton: [Shows Kissinger an MENA ticker. item of an Egyptian "dis-
closure" of meetings between Israeli and Syrian intelligence officials in
Geneva. ] Why didn't they tell us about it?
Kissinger: Some day, for a week, I will accept every recommendation
I get on the PLO. Then you will be on your knees thanking me for what
I saved you from.
I don't see why it couldn't have been put out at once that we needed PLO
security protection, instead of dribbling it out.
Dinitz: Yesterday he said U. S. officials were being escorted everywhere
by the PLO. The impression it gives is that you have no freedom of
action. It doesn't look right. [He shows an AP report at Tab A. ]
Kissinger: It doesn't look right to have officials assassinated in the streets.
They just tell the PLO in order to hold the PLO responsible for security.
We don't know the mechanics. These people that are close to you are
harrassing us every day.
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Dinitz: The newspaper men who are harrassing your spokesman are
also harrassing us.
Kissinge I am not mad at you. I am mad at the bureaus, who can't
give a straight answer. First, dealing with the PLO in Lebanon is
totally different from the PLO in Israel. We have been meticulous in
not having contacts with them. Even on the assassination of Meloy, we
dealt with them through the Egyptian Embassy. We deal with them only
on questions about the local situation.
Atherton: There was suspicion because we didn't explain it the first
day.
Dinitz: We have said our piece in a clear way. [He shows the Secretary
the official Israeli statement on the matter. ]
Kissing er: I have no problem with this. We have told you everything.
There is no issue. This is one case where we didn't have to convince
you and you didn't have to convince us.
If we had done what you reconimended, the Syrians would have taken
on the Christians. Now the Christians are strong enough. There
weren't even tactical disagreements.
Dinitz:' That is right.
Kissin : Why is the guidance so weaseling? Was I away?
Atherton: It caught us by surprise, and we had to say something. You
weren't here.
Dinitz: I heard Marvin Kalb on the radio today on the way over. He says
there is quid pro quo between the United States and the PLO. [See Tab A]
Kissinger: When we threatened them [on the evacuation], we didn't even
go to them. We went to the Egyptians and the Saudis. When we got a
firm date -- when they said there would be "no obstacles" -- only then
did we send a note to the PLO saying: We are leaving on Tuesday.
Confirm it. " When they confirmed it, we had talks on where the ships
were leaving, and exact times.
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Dinitz: No, as a friend. You see pictures of U. S. Marines shaking
hands with the PLO; the President thanks all concerned, and the spokes-
man of the President says it refers to the PLO. We are bombarded
that we are blind. I am afraid it could be an issue -- an issue in the
campaign because it shows the impotence of a great power. Even
if it is the Mafia that controls the road, as Peter said, and you have to
talk to them. But .
Kissinger: But these people are also saying we have to talk to the PLO.
Marvin is one of the better ones; he ought to understand. When we are
actively working to weaken the PLO, why would we do something to build
them up? If it was clear that the PLO was key to getting a negotiation
started, then we would have a motive.
Dinitz: We would complain.
Kissinger: Of course. But there would be a motive. If Seelye talked
to Arafat tomorrow, why could we get out of it?
Some Arab -- in a report I saw -- analyzed the Egyptian-PLO relation-
ship: The Egyptians were trying to exhaust both the Syrians and the
PLO so that Egypt could then make an independent deal.
Dinitz: The problem is not the Jordanians, because they think the
Egyptians and the PLO are trying to move closer to each other.
Kissinger: You and I have always agreed that at some point in this
evolution, the Syrians would go back to the PLO.
Dinitz: But has the moment come? Do you think the arrangements will
not hold?
Kissinger Unless the PLO is weakened, the Syrians will stay there
permanently, or else the PLO will gain ascendancy if the Syrians with-
draw. If the Syrians were to get any long-term benefit, they had to
weaken the PLO.
Dinitz: There is small likelihood that this agreement will be observed.
The PLO is damned if they accept it, and damned if they reject it. The
Egyptians are very mad at the communique. Cairo announced that Arafat
won't go to Damascus.
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Kissinger: I think the PLO isn't weakened enough to make it a sensible
Syrian move. Whether the Arabs ever act out of strategic interest, or
whether they are under such pressure from the Soviets, we can't tell.
It didn't require Syrian withdrawal. It looks like Arafat might not sell
it to his people.
Why did the PLO get so involved in the Lebanon situation,
in retrospect?
Dinitz: They probably didn't plan on much involvement, but once they
started attacking Saiqa, the Syrians were furious.
Kissinger But why did they get involved with the Christians?
Dinitz: They thought it would be an easy victory.
Kissinger: They [the PLO] couldn't take over all of.Lebanon except
together with the Syrians.
Dinitz: They thought the Syrians would stay out and Jumblatt could do it.
Kissinger. That is how it looked at the end of March.
Dinitz: But the situation changed with the Syrian move and the Christians'
resistance. The Syrians can't even accommodate the PLO now because
there is the Christian element.
Kissinger: But it is a mistake to partition Lebanon, because it would
guarantee the Muslim part would be PLO, and a radical government.
Dinitz: Because of geography, we are not for that.
Kissinger: There will be some federal state now, perhaps.
Atherton: Probably.
Dinitz We don't advocate partition.
Kissinger: If the Christians were in the southern part, it would be
different.
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Dinitz: I was asked to raise our concern with the growing Egyptian-
Syrian political warfare. This is something we have been concerned
about. [Tab B]
Kissinger: Is this Allon's week? Is this his problem this time? Peres
has been quiet.
Rodman: He's been running the soup kitchens on the Lebanese border.
Dinitz: The Salvation Army !
Kissinger: I read that some of the Lebanese in the south won't let the
PLO back into their villages.
Dinitz: Three thousand people have been treated by our medical people.
They go shopping in Kiryat Shemona.
This [Tab B] is with regard to Egypt's influence on other countries not
to establish relations -- the pressure on Spain, on the Africans, in the
ECOSOC.
The speech of Sadat is not one that produces great . . . . The speech
on the 23rd. It was very belligerent.
Kissinger: Against Israel?
Dinitz: Against Israel. Inciting the people [on the West Bank] to rise
up against Israel, with the PLO. It was more belligerent than Asad's.
Kissinger: I am going to see Eilts.. I will raise this with him.
[Dinitz gives Kissinger and Atherton. Tab B]
What are the other worrisome aspects of the speech?
Dinitz: It doesn't show any interest in negotiation or peace. It is
reminiscent of the pre-Agreement situation.
Kissinger: We haven't been in contact with the Egyptians and others
on the negotiations because we don't want to be asked questions.
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Dinitz: And they are not really interested.
Kissinger: We haven't discussed it anyway.
I will raise it.
Dinitz: The other point is the Egyptian attempt to change the status of
the Buffer Zone. [He hands the Secretary Tab C. ]
Kissinger: That is the arrant stupidity of Waldheim.
[To Atherton:] Have we answered that letter? Tab D.
Atherton: No,. we talked to his staff people.
Kissing_ It is not new. Waldheim has suddenly asked us for a formal
opinion.
Dinitz: But there is a weakening of the UN position. Because Siilasvuo
has gone on vacation. The Swedish chap has also been recalled. The
new Commander doesn't know anything about the history of the thing. So
there is a vacuum, and the Egyptians have escalated their demands.
Kissinger: I think we should just bury it.
Dinitz: We are not raising it; we are just calling it to your attention.
Atherton: Somebody talked to Urquhart. He is a sensible guy.
Kissinger Yes. Have Scranton talk to Waldheim or Urquhart and take
care of it.
Dinitz: Siilasvuo was due to be back on the 28th.
Kissinger: Right.
Dinitz: Another point: The Iraqi Government has lately requested to
admit the PLO in the International Atomic Energy Commission [Agency].
[Laughter]
Rodman: That is good, because the safeguards would apply l
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Dinitz: I need not tell you the ramifications of this I
Kissinger: Have we got a veto?
Dinitz: Here is a paper on this. [Tab E]
Bar-On: You have considerable influence; it is a weighted vote.
Kissinger: We will oppose it.
Dinitz: One additional thing: When former President Nixon was in Israel,
we signed a joint communique which referred favorably to increasing land-
ing rights for El Al. It is very important to us and also has important
political and psychological effects. We are the only airline which has only
one point of entry, New York.
Kissinger: Where does it stand?
Atherton: The CAB has it.
Kissinger: But it hasn't come up in the last two years.
Dinitz: If I may: We've requested Los Angeles, Chicago and Miami.
We understand there may be some differences because these are major
points and TWA uses them. It could be San Francisco instead of Los
Angeles; Cleveland or Detroit instead of Chicago; or Boston and Wash-
ington instead of Miami.
Kissinger: That is the last concession you will make!
It's like Mao and Kosygin: Mao swears it is true. He says he told Kosygin,
on the way back from the Ho Chi Minh funeral, "We'll struggle against
you for 10, 000 years." Kosygin said: "That's not the way to talk among
Communists. " Mao said: "All right, 9, 000 years, " [Laughter] So
Kosygin said: "Come on now. " So Mao said: "8, 000 years, and that is
the last concession we will make!" [Laughter]
Dinitz: Who told you this?
Kissinger: Mao told me that. He swears it is true.
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Dinitz: Because I don't think we can ever reach agreement with the
CAB.
Atherton: There were a couple of rounds of negotiations with the CAB
after the Nixon visit; but there was no result.
Dinitz: They were very courteous., but they said, "Of course, TWA would
object and it would have to be a political decision. " It is the same in our
government; the Minister of Transportation would be against it, but the
Prime Minister and the Cabinet could decide on other calculations. So
you should talk to the President and see what can be done. You are
doing good business in Israel. TWA is one of the few airlines that
make money.
Kissin er: If you pave it all, you will have more room. The tanks are
moving.
Dinitz: No, nothing has moved on this or on the 105 mm guns. The same
thing with the German thing.
Kissinger : The problem is we haven't figured out the bureaucratic thing.
Dinitz: Leber said let the U. S. purchase it on a token basis.
Kissinger: But we have to do paperwork for a purchase.
Dinitz: I think it is simply a little goodwill. Scowcroft says the Pentagon
is investigating it. I go to the Pentagon but the Pentagon won't see me.
Kissinger: Why?
Dinitz: Rumsfeld won't see foreign Ambassadors.
Atherton: Brent says the Pentagon promised an answer in the middle of
next week.
Dinitz: They now tell us we don't have money to cover all the orders.
This is true. But we aren't putting orders beyond our money. There
was a rumor that Rumsfeld was keeping it because he was going to Israel
and wanted to give it to Shimon Peres in Israel. I don't care who he
gives it to.
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Kissinger: I will talk to him again.
Dinitz: I have two pleasant items.
The Israeli Philharmonic will be at the Kennedy Center on the 27th for
the Bicentennial. Zubin Mehta will be conducting. I understand the
President may go.
Rodman: You will be at the UNGA.
Kissinger: I am giving a speech on that dayat the UN. I am almost sure
my boys in 10 scheduled something else for that night.
Rodman: But I told Jock about this.
Kissinger : If there is something else, I'll try to un.schedule it.
Dinitz: Now, with Nancy and you in Iran, maybe she could come to
Israel.
Kissinger: There is air service between Iran and Israel?
Dinitz: Yes.
Kissinger: She could go to Jordan and then to Egypt too.
Dinitz: She could go through Cyprus or Greece.
Kissinger: Not someone named Kissinger! That would be dangerous.
Dinitz: Rome?
Kissinger: The easier way would be through Jordan. If not this time., I
may go to Africa at the end of the month.
Dinitz: East Africa or West Africa?
Kissinger: Probably East Africa. But I would like to go to the Ivory
Coast on one trip.
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Dinitz: That was our recommendation. Houphouet wasn't there.
Kissinger; He was in Paris for a rest and he hates flying so he didn't
come back. But I saw him in Paris.
Dinitz: He'd welcome Scranton, but he wants you.
Kissinger: The Nigerian Foreign Minister came to see me. He was very
worried about our not seeing him. It's true.
Dinitz: We've heard things about the situation in Nigeria.
Kissi.ngerr: We have too. There is not one Nigerian Chief of State except
Gowon who left office alive.
Bar-On: Because he was abroad at the time.
Kissinger: Yes. It's a death sentence to be made Nigerian Chief of State !
All right. Can we talk alone for a minute?
[Kissinger and Dinitz conferred alone from 9:32 to 10:05.]
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P
PLO
DYKENNETHJ. RED
WASHINGTON (AP) ---.THE PALESTINE LIBERATION ORGANIZATION IS NOW
PROVIDING PROTECTION FOR U.S.. OFFICIALS TRAVELING IN THE MOSLEM
SECT IONS OF Bw;,i i3T, TllE STATE DEPARTMENT ACKiNOWLEDGED TODAY.
THIS WAS TIE NEWEST DEVF.LOPME:NT IPN STATE DEPARTMENT DESCRIPTIONS OF
WI-tAT HAS TURNED OUT TO BE AN E 1PANDING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE
UNITED STATES AND THE PLO.
UNTIL LAST FRIDAY, THE UNITED _STATES DEN; ED ANY DIRECT CONTACT WITH
_HE* GUs:. i:!F.Li~ 0 AiiiZAtIO:Np cIO:IVGBy TIE D;PARTt1ENT HAS SINGE
AC+f;IO 1LZD GZD- TI-{AT CONTACTS 3,?GAfN L LATE JUTE.
SPJ'tfESf Afi :1.0:4RT FUNSETII SAID TODAY THAT ALL CONTACTS WITH 'THE PLO
A:RZ L T;:1 I TED TO S, EC UR ITY f$ATTZRS.
STATING THAT THE PLO IS A PRINCIPAL . FACT OR IN THE SECURITY SITUATIOY
I'N?NOSLE i-, LD WEST BEIRUT, LOCATION OF THE U*S.. EMBASSY FUNSETH
SA D, x HAT THE M A3 GROUP HAS PROVIDED . 4 v ESCORT VEHICLES TO ACCOMPANY
U. S.. OFFICIALS I N PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS AREAS. "i .
ON AT A LEAST' ONE OCCASION, THE PLO ESCORTED ACTING AMBASSADOR
TALCOTT SEA YE BEFORE HEA WAS EVACUATED ALONG WITH SEVERAL HUNDRED
OTHER, AMERICA"S AND OTHER. FOREI.GNERS EARLIER THIS WEE
F UN ETH 1.10ULD NOT PVOVIDE. DETAILS ON THE TYPE OF PROTECTION THE
TERROR__`+ST MT O IS PROVIDING, 6JOR' WOULD HE DISCLOSE THE FREQUENCY IN
ADDIz?OfNy, 'HE SAID HZ COULD GIVE ;~10: DETAILS ON WHAT PARTICULAR AREAS
`..:'.E UIRE PLO PROT :CTION.
HE _ALSO_DECLI :ED TO. ANSI ER 1iWHEN~ ASKED IF THE PLO ITSELF- WAS NOT THE.
PRINCIPAL SOURCE OF DAN= R TO AMERICANS 1.31 SOME . OF THE WEST' BEIRUT
SECT IONS.
IN A RELATED NATTER, _ FUNSETH SAID THE UNITED STATES ALSO HAD BEEN I
DIRECT CONTACT W'I THE' P O' 'CO-ICERi1ING THE JUNE 16 MURDER OF AMBASSADOR
FRANCIS tjEL O'! ? AND TWO OTHER U.S, EMBASSY PERSONNEL*
WE -HAV : PASSED TO THE PLO A STFO NG ?BEQUEST THAT THE' t;URDERERS BE
IDENTIFIED, APPREHENDED AND PUNISHED, !. F i`1SETH SAID,
THE PLO ITSELF ' AID ON JUNE. 2Q THAT IT HAD CAPTURED THE KILLERS%
WHILE NOT SPECIFICALLY DISPUTING THAT CLAIM FUNSETH SAID THAT v.vWE
41 ATIOf1 THAT THE PLO IS HOLDING THE
HAVE NO I`NDEPE.: ND.E'NT CO N.FIR
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PALESTINIAN ESCORTS FOR OFFICIAL MSERICANS
Neil Strawser and Marvin Kalb, CBS Radio, World News Roundup.
Egypt, in one of its strongest attacks on Syria in recent
months, has accused the Syrians of working with Israel to
destroy the Palestinian commando movement in Lebanon, Cairo
calling the new Syrian-Palestinian accord a document of sur-
render.-
Here in Washington, some eye brows are being raised by the
State Department announcement that Palestinians are providing
protection for Americans in Beirut. Ziiarvin :alb reports.
Kalb: The spokesman, Robert Funseth, continues to maintain
that American contacts with the Palestine Liberation Organiza-
tion are limited strictly to security matters, and that ?mari--
can policy toward the PLO has not changed as a result of these
contacts. However, the official definition of!security' seems
to expand with each day, until now a channell of cor,,munica-.
tion between the two sides has been established which, in
the long run, may turn out to be much more significant than
the contacts themselves. That channell is in fact the 'quid
pro quo' :which the Palestinians are getting in exchange for
providing.security for 2znericans who work, live and travel
through West Beirut. There are other leftist armed groups
in West Beirut, but the U. S, is dealing with the PLO. Ti,,-at-
is the diplomatic signal' that the U.S. recognizes the imoort-
ance of the PLO. It's a degree of recognition and respecta-
bility that the PLO has. wanted from the U.S. for a long time.
Now, it has it. (State Department).
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#S "t C R E T 30 July 1976
EGYPTIAN POLITICAL WARFARE
WE ARE CONCERNED AT THE INCREASE OF EGYPTIAN INITIATIVES
AND STATEMENTS OF A RATHER VIOLENT ANTI-ISRAELI NATURE TO
WHICH WE HAVE BEEN WITNESS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS CULMINA-
TING AS THEY DID ONLY A FEW DAYS AGO IN SADAAT'S SPEECH OF
JULY 23rd.-
EGYPT IS CONTINUING TO BE ACTIVE IN TRYING TO THWART
ANY MOVE DESIGNED TO BRING ABOUT DIPLOMATIC. RELATIONS
BETWEEN ISRAEL AND SPAIN.
ON-THE AFRICAN FRONT, WE KNOW THAT EGYPT EXERCISED
PRESSURE ON MAURITIUS TO BREAK DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS
WITH US. EGYPT HAS ALSO BEEN ACTIVE THROUGHOUT
AFRICA IN TRYING TO PREVENT ANY WEAKENING IN THE
ENTIRE ISRAEL STANCE OF THE AFRICAN COUNTRIES IN
INTERNATIONAL FORUII?S. WE KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, OF A
PARTICULAR EFFORT IN THIS DIRECTION IN SIERRA LEONE.
WE HAVE INDICATIONS THAT EGYPT IS f$G IN EXERCISING
NOT ONLY PRESSURE BUT ALSO ENCOURAGES THE OFFERRING
OF FINANCIAL INDUCEMENTS TO SOME AFRICAN HEADS OF
STATE IN GIRDER TO PREVENT ANY WEAKENING IN THEIR
ANTI-ISRAELI STAND.
2) EGYPT IS ACTIVE AGAINST ISRAEL AT THE U.N. IN ITS
SPECIALIZED AGENCIES AS WELL AS IN OTHER INTERNATIONAL
BODIES. EGYPTIAN ACTION AT THE BEGINNING OF MAY IN
REQUESTING A MEETING OF THE SECURITY COUNCIL IS STILL
S E C R E T
2/..
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30. July 1976
REMEMBERED BUT ALSO LATELY EGYPT HAS BEEN SPONSORING
ANTI-ISRAELI RESOLUTIONS IN SUCH BODIES AS ECOSOC,
HABITAT AND OTHER AGENCIES.
WE ARE OF COURSE PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT SADAT'S
SPEECH OF JULY 23RD IN WHICH HE BITTERLY ATTACKED
ISRAEL AND, FOR EXAMPLE, CALLED ON THE ARAB POPULATION
OF THE WEST BANK IN THE GAZA STRIP "TO CONTINUE THEIR
STRUGGLE AND RESISTANCE AGAINST ISRAEL" AND TO UNITE
BEHIND THE PLO. THIS IS CERTAINLY AN OPEN INCITEMENT
AND.THEREFORE OF CONCERN. IT SHOULD BE SAID THAT
THERE ARE ALSO OTHER WORRISOME ASPECTS IN SADAT'S SPEECH
WHICH CAST DOUBT IN OUR MINDS ON THE POLITICAL DIRECTION .
IN WHICH HE SEEMS TO BE ENGAGED. AT THE MOMENT.
S E C R E T
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JANUARY , MAY 1976
Since the signing of the interim agreement in September
1975, the Government of Israel has been watching.cerefully
for signs and indications that might.reveal something of
Egyptian intentions regarding the gradual normalization
of relations with Israel, as called for under the agreement.
It now transpires that the trend has been precisely the
reverse: not only has there been no easing of Egyptts
propaganda effort against Israel, but Cairo has, on the
contrary, been campaigning actively in various international
forums in an attempt to isolate and condemn Israel. Clearly,
this position is totally inconsiete.nt with a readiness to
reach a settlement, and Israel must take this into account
in weighing any future moves in the area.
In-the pages that follow we present hard evidence to the
.effect that Egypt, its moderate rhetoric notwithstanding,
has not changed its basic position towards Israel and its
rightful existence.
A. E tian Cloves Against Israel at the United Nations and Other
International Bodies
.1. At the end of April, Egyptian representatives lobbied among
'leaders of the European Socialist parties with the object of
preventing their participation in.a Socialist symposium in
Jerusalem (Al Shaab, Jordanian daily, May 12, 1976, and other
sources),
2. On May 3, President Sadat requested the convening of an
emergency session of the UN Security Council to discuss Israelis
actions in the territories and in Jerusalem, charging that these
were,among other.things, a violation of the Geneva Convention.
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3. At the FAO Conference in Rome at the end of May, the Egyptian
delegation proposed an amendment to prevent the acceptance of
Israel as an original member in the Third Group of the Inter-
national Fund for Agricultural Development.
4. At the prepatory meeting of the ECOSOC Conference, Egypt was
at the forefront of those insisting on reference being made to
the notorious Zionism-racism resolution of last November; despite
the failure of this move, Egypt continued its pressure to have
that resolution mentioned in the resolutions of the Abidjan
Conference.
5. In May, there were Egyptian and other Arab attempts to work
against a joint meeting of Israel and the European Common Market
in Jerusalem. .
6. At Habitat (April 31-May 11, 1976) there was an Egyptian
initiative,, supported by Iraq and Libya,
B. E9yotian Activity at Islamic Conference
1. At the Islamic-Christian Conferences in Tripoli (February 1-7.,
1976) the Egyptian representative was the most belligerent towards
Israel and the Jewish 'People. He referred to Jews in the crudest
terms ('scum of the earth" and similar terms), and reacted in a
manner that can only be described as hysterical when the Vatican
representative objected to his terminology.
2. At the Islamic Foreign Ministers Conference in Istanbul,an
Egyptian-Syrian draft was presented to the Conference calling upon
all the member States that still had not done so to break relations
with Israel.' (Egypt opposed a demand by Syria, Libya and the PLO
calling for the expulsion of Israel from the United Nations, but
this proposal still formed part of the Summary Report of the
Conference.)
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C. ? Activit to Prevent Diplomatic Relations and Other Contacts
with Israel
1. Since January of this year, Egypt has been. engaged in thwarting
every move designed to bring about the establishment of diplomatic
relations between Spain and Israel. (See, for example, foreign
'Minister Fahmy's statement at the Egyptian National Assembly on
January 17, 1976, and an article threatening Spain, in Art-,
June 1, 1976.)
.2. The Ambassadors of Egypt, Libya and Kuwait boycotted a farewell
party in Malta for the Ambassador from West Germany because Israel
participated (according to a letter from the Embassy in Malta
'dated March 2). (There have been other reports of the deliberate
avoidance of encounters with.Israeli diplomats, but Egyptian
behavior in this respect does not appear to be uniform.)
D. Statements by President Sadat
1. In an.interview with the Iranian News Agency (February 24, 1976),
-President Sadat categorically rejected the notion of direct
negotiations with Israel as "utterly impossible."
2. At a press conference in Kuwait on February 29, Sadat said:
"We must not give .:Israel a chance to draw air into its lungs....
Egypt will not leave the battle, nor will it abandon its national
responsibility, because it regards this as a matter of obligation
and honor."
3. In a letter to the African nations on the occasion of
International Day in the Struggle Against Racism and Discrimination
(March 21), Sadat said: "Racist. discrimination, which is still
prevalent in certain areas in southern Africa, also is continuing
on Palestinian soil. In addition to the barbaric, inhuman,
colonialistic repression in Palestine, there is also the cultural
repression, manifested in the alteration of the status of Arab
Jerusalem."
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4. In a speech before officers of the'Second Army in Ismailiya
(March 22),+Sadat said: "We must continue our efforts to find
a solution to the Middle East-problem, either by peaceful or by
military means.. If a peaceful solution fails, we cannot allow
Israel to sit quietly and relax. We must keep pushing it back
and remove it entirely from our land - that is to say, all the
Arab land."
5: In a speech on May 1 in Suez, Sadat said: "The goal was, and
remains, the liberation of Arab land in its entirety, and the
realization of the right of the Palestinian people to regain
possession ofjts soil and to establish a state on that soil. The
Israeli occupation has twice retreated from Egypt and once from
.Syria and the rin of world pressure has begun to tighten around.
Israel as never before. The United States is now anxious to please
us'- after it had tried to fight us, face-to-face, for ten full
days. Europe, too, has approached us with the same aim, and I
felt this myself during my recent tiip to -furope o ... M-ore----
important, however, is the fact that we conducted a political
struggle on behalf of the Palestinian people, to the point where
the status'of the PLO in the world has reached a level never
attained by any other national liberation movement and it has
succeeded in entering the international arena by the widest
possible portal.... The Palestinian people, bending under the
yoke of the Israeli occupation, turned to its own salvation
when the West Bank rose to the last man, and its inhabitants --
including the old and the women and children - went out into the
streets to raise their voices against the Israeli-occupation,,
hurling stones in the abominable face of the enemy. From the
Suez of the 6th of October, we proudly hail the Palestinian
people, without prejudice, for their glorious achievements in
the struggle they are carrying on in the occupied territories,
under the leadership of the PLO. Through unity of will, goal and
organization, with courage and awareness, it has succeeded in
coming to grips with the new realities generated by the October
victories, and to withstand the repression and the terror of the
Israeli occupation. At the time of the municipal elections on
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the West Bank, it even succeeded in imposing its own national
representatives at a rate of more than 80 per cent of the candidates
elected to the local councils.
E. Statements bV--Foreign Minister Fahmy
1. In a speech before the committees of the Egyptian National
Assembly on January 5, 1976, Fahmy said: "One of the manifestations
of Egypt's adherence to its national obligations is the perseverence
of. its activity against Israel in every international.forum. It
was Egypt that raised the matter of the Israeli aggression on
the refugee camps in Lebanon before the Security Council an
.December 3, 1975. It achieved, for the first time in the history
of the Security Council, the agreement of the Council to allow
the participation of the PLO during the debate on this subject.
This was the strongest' challenge that the Palestinians had ever
thrown at Israel on the international level-, and-'Eg pt? thus-
managed, in effect, to upset the balance of forces in the
United Nations, and in the Security Council itself.... Egypt
took the initiative in the campaign against Israel on every
occasion when Arab rights were involved..... You will surely recall
that I issued a clear warning to Israel against keeping its gates
open to immigration. During the past 28 years we haven't heard
from any other Arab source a reminder to the Israeli rulers that
the restriction of immigration to Israel will be one of the funda-
mental conditions for permanent peace.''
2. During a discussion at the National Council on January 17, 1976,
Fahmy said: "Spain has no intention of changing its present
policy, and the statements attributed to the Foreign Minister
of Spain are part of Zionist propaganda. Contacts are being
maintained and we are keeping track of every move in every
country, in order to protect Arab interests."
3. During a discussion before the Foreign Affairs Committee of
the National Assembly on February 12 (following the convening of
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the Jordanian Parliament), Fahmy said: "The only way to foil
the plans of the Israeli administration an the West Bank is to
step up resistance activities there. Thus our Palestinian
brothers who live there will not co-operate with any Israeli
plan seeking, ostensibly, to grant them an autonomous regime
while, in actual fact, it sought to undermine the representative
authority of the PLO."
4. During a speech before the National Assembly on March 15
'(following the abrogation of the Soviet-Egyptian Friendship
Treaty), Fahmy said: It... the Soviet Union allows immigration
of Jews to Israel, Zionist pressure, aiming to link the trade
agreement between Russia and America to the subject of Jewish
immigration, has succeeded. The Soviet Union signed the agreement
publicly while secretly agreeing to this matter of immigration,
and the Jews emigrated -- 40,000 in 1974 and 60,000 in 1975.h
5. In an official statement commenting on the demonstrations in
Judaea and Samaria on March 20, Fahmy praised all people who are
under occupation in general, and the Palestinian people on the
West Bank in particular, for "their heroic stand and their
rebellion against the Israeli occupation, violence and terror....
.It is clear that Israel wants to return to its Zionist goals,
which contradict the international community's objective of a just
and durable peace in the Middle East.... The Egyptian Government
and people support the position of the Palestinian poeple against
the moves undertaken by Israel in the occupied territories."
6. In an interview with Al--Abram on April 30, Fahmy said: "The
responsibility for putting an end to the state of war with Israel
lies an Israel's shoulders only, not on the Arabs' shoulders."
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PEAR HENRY,
IN CONTI?UATION OF OUR CLOSE CONTACTS. IN t-TATTERS PERTAXNING
TO THE 10 PLF.MENTA.TIO^1 OF THE EGYPT/ISRAEL AUREEmFriT OF
SEPTEm9EQ 1975, I COULD LIXE. TO 9RING TO YOUR t TTENTI1j N
A MOST SE:4''IOUS F il~+L! rj RECENTLY F1ROU HT UP 8v' TnE EGYPTIAN
Go;'ERP=`wVT, i;+IS PRUiILEh CONCERNS ThE LL(;AI. STATUS OF BUFFER
'LU'N'e it W,hIC'H EVCt]h~p!SS?w~ THE STFATt^GIC GIOuX AF?iO 14ITLA
PASSES, THE SURVvILLA';C:r STATIrINS OF THE TWO PARTIES,
'''.'_7 '_ THE UNI"t EO STATES GUVER'~"ENT' S WATCH STATIONS AND SENSOR
FIELDS,
AS YOU ~TLL RECALL: THE NATURE: OF THE PUFFE;k ZONE, UNDER
THE AGREE."'ELT ON THE OISENGAGEHF:NT OF FORCES OF Lti JANUARY
1974, HAD NEVER BEEN CALLEO INTO QUESTION. NOT;, HOWEVER,
CONFIDENTIAL .
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THE CUSJERI-IME' T OF EGYPT M-AIUTAI S ThAT THE PRESENT c3UFFER
ZE)NE 1 I'S. NUT A UNITED PATIO'S AREA, NOR A CO"1DU! X IUN
BETIVFEM EGYPT .'A.0 ISRAEL, EGYPT AFFMMS THAT T4E AREA
i;t'`AI`}S L!P;DE~~ FULL EGYPTIAN SOVEREIGNTY. '.o{IL.E EGYPT HAS
VOLUNTARILY ACCEPTFU CERTAIN nESTRXCTIONS PERTAINING TO
THE `,I 1 ILIT1 RY C) At;HCTEF CF THE OFFER ZOi'E, IT INSISTS ON
ITS soVE^LIGN RIGHT TO 1!NGF?FiTAKE CIVILIAN ACTIVITIES IN THE
SUFFER ZOt E." IN THIS CO,*! XIOia, IT IS TMPORT aNT TO BEAR IN
MIND THAT TmF AGRLF.19EIIT CF SEPTE06ER 1:175 PROVIDES FOR A
CLEARgR SITUATION IN 1HE SOUTHERN AREA (SOUTH OF LINE E AND
WEST CF LINE 0). Th}:-"G EGYPT IS SPECIFICALLY PERMITTED TO
CARRY OUT CERTAIN CIVILIAN ACTIVITIES RELATING TO THE OIL
FIE LOS IN ABU POODEIS AN) RA5 SUL)AR, It CLUOING THE MAINTENANCE
OF A LIMITED NUMBER OF CIVILIAN POLICE,
THE GOVF=:R1`ft-l'1T OF ?FCYPT HAS RAISFD THIS FUNDAMENTAL OUESTION
RCS.A'?OItJG BUFF" ,k ZONE 1 TN CO,N'3EXION I.IITHH ITS Xi4SISTENCE
T;, T IT SL PC M):TTEU TO PROVIDE NURMAL CIVILTAU SERVICES TO
THE F GYP'i XAi CITI7.1' N;S IN THE 6UFFLR ZONE VGL.OOUINS), AS YOU
ARE AiIARF, THIS MATTER WAS FULLY DISCUSSED IN THE MILITARY
WORKING GRC'UP THAT 1+&5 CONVENED TG WORK OUT THE PROTOCOL. FOR
7 HE Xr;PLEHEl4 T A T ION OF THE At^,.EEHENT, AT Th.AT TIME EGYPT REFUSED
TO DISCUSS THE PRURLEVIS OF hGYPTIAN CIVILIANS WITH ISRAi.LI
REPRESENTATIVES IN THE WORKING GRU10, UiiOFR THESE CIRCUMMu
STANCES ISRAEL REFUSED TO AUREE TO THE TERNS uF TriE PROTOCOL
UNLESS IT COULD RL:CEIV': SATISFACTION eitTH RESPECT TO THE
STATUS OF TO.- CIVILIANS IN BUFFER ZIThE 1. THE MATTER ;IAS RESOLVED
IN A WAY THAT LEFT OPEN THE OUE `i T ION AS TO HOW EGYPT SHOULD
PROVXDE SERVICE-5 TO THE 6000I%JS, LATER, AT THE CU"PLETXOr4
OF THE DISEIOAGEMLNT PROCESS, GENERAL SXILASVUO, IN HIS
CAPACITY AS CHIEF CO-GPDINATOR OF THE U,vtTEO) NATIONS PEACES'
1< PING MISSI()MMS IN THE MID )LE EAST, OUT, IN CLOSE
COK,SNILTATIOI! k*XTH SOTri PARTIES, ARRANGEc1F.~NTS ;;HICr PERMITTED
THE F. ,TARLISH;; NT OF AN EGYPTIAN AC)1?1ItNI5'1'kATI ,'E C$E.NTPE
TO P.40VIOE SERVICES TO *THE i) L,UUIiiS. PiOW 1 EGYPT IS IMSISTING
THAT UNEF PeRHIT THE IHTPOfUCTION OF UNIFORMED EGYPTIAN
CIVILIAN POLICE INTO THE BUFFER ZONE,
EGYPT HAS ALSO FORMALLY RE(UE5TEO THAT UNNEF SHOULD ALLOW
EGYPT TO EXPLOIT ITS NATURAL RESOURCES IN PUFFER ZOi4 I.
IN THIS CONNEXION, IT HAS IINFURMEU UNEF THAT IT INTENDS TO
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ScE,NU AN INTERNATIONAL 1 I\'It.iAM TEAM TO EYPLO E FOR OIL IN
THE SUFFER ME, IN DEALING 14ITH T-1E EG~PTIAM RE;GUES1", THE.
Cj IF:r CO OF OINATOr: AND THE FCERCL COHMAr:DEk t;F UNEI t'AVEp OF
CQtiR:, :, COV5ULTEO WITH TWE. ISRAELI GOVIFRt?t;EN:TQ ISRAEL, IN
OPPOSP?'G At`'Y EGYPTTAM CIVILIAN ACTIVITIES It`. THE 8LUFFE:R ZONE,
VAIN T AIMS THAT EGYPT CAttrsC.T ASSN .RT ITS. S(IVEF EIG TY IN THE
t~11'FEt ZONE, M+ICH 13 i--~.I;r4 A 'SPECIAL REGI`'E. CONSEt UEMTLY,
ISRAEL IS OPPLSEt) TR HAVING EGYPTIAN CIVILIAN POLICE IN
PUFFER ZO:iE It POINTING OUT THAT IT 15 ONLY IN THE SOUTHERN
At~E A THAT THE AOREEhFr0 T PROVIDES FOR THE FRES; NCE OF
EGYPTIAN: CTVII.IA-% POLICE UNDER SPECIAL ARRINGEMENTS. ISRAEL
IS ALSn OPPOSED TO ALLLCiING EGYPT TO UNDO-ITTAUE. OIL LXPLOPATION
It~i THE EiLIFFER XONLa UNDE THE Ii E:.RSTANOIriG 0RKE0 OUT r"iITH
60TH P; 1 Ir5, tlh4EF f?;ILL HAVE TO GIVE ITS F ESPO"ISE TO EGYPT
SW"EE TIRE DURING THE FIRST WEEK IN AUGUST 19762
THE STATUS OF Tit_: BUFPEF ZONE Tar OF COURSE, ?A
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