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by t1I gentleman from California L.
DAMMEYER] to the motion to in-
struct conferees offered by the gentle-
man from Maasachusetts [Mr. Cowl's].
The amendment to the motion to in-
struct conferees was agreed to.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The
question is on the motion to instruct
conferees offered by the gentleman
from Massachusetts [Mr. Com], as
amended.
The motion to instruct conferees, as
amended, was agreed to..
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The
Speaker will appoint conferees when
he returns and resumes the chair.
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CONGRESSIONAL RECORD ? HOUSE 8 ci H7565
MESSAGE FROM THE
PRESIDENT
A message in writing from the Presi-
dent of the United States was commu-
nicated to the House by Mr. Kal-
baugh, one of his secretaries, who also
Informed the House that on the fol-
lowing dates the President approved
and signed bills and joint resolutions
of the House of the following titles:
On September 8, 1988:
H.J. Res. 539. Joint resolution designating
the week beginning September 18, 1988, as
"Emergency Medical Services Week":
H.J. Res. 583. Joint resolution designating
the week beginning September 11, 1988, as
"National Outpatient Ambulatory Week";
H.R. 2370. An act to provide for the estab-
lishment of an economic development plan
for, and Federal services and assistance to,
the Northwestern Band of the Shoshoni
Nation, and for other purposes;
H.R. 3679. An act to clarify the Federal re-
lationship to the Lac Vieux Desert Band of
Lake Superior Chippewa Indians as a dis-
tinct Indian tribe, to clarity the status of
members of the band, to transfer title to
trust lands, and for other purposes; and
H.R. 3960. An act to authorize the estab-
lishment of the Charles Pinckney National
Historic Site in the State of South Carolina,
and for other purposes.
On September 9, MR:
H.R. 1841. An act to provide for the estab-
lishment of additional safety requirements
f or fishing industry vessels, and for other
purposes;
R.R. 4143. An act to establish a reserva-
tion for the Confederated Tribes of the
Grand Ronde Community of Oregon, and
for other purposes;
H.R. 4318. An act to improve the adminis-
tration of the personnel systems of the Gen-
eral Accounting Office; and
RR. 5174. An act to make clarifying, cor-
rective, and conforming amendments to
laws relating to Indian education, and for
other purposes.
On September 13, 1988:
H.R. 1158. An act to amend title VM of
the Act commonly called the Civil Rights
Act of 1968, to revise the procedures for the
enforcement of fair housing, and for other
purposes.
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CONFERENCE REPORT ON H.R.
4387, INTELLIGENCE AUTHORI-
ZATION ACT, FISCAL YEAR 1989
Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I call up
the conference report on the bill (H.R.
4387) to authorize appropriations for
fiscal year 1989 for intelligence and in-
telligence-related activities of the U.S. Menbers have e t.he *Les with
Government, for the Intelligence
Community Staff, for the Central In-
telligence Agency Retirement and Dis-
ability System, and for other purposes.
The Clerk read the title of the bilL
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr.
GRAY of Illinois). Pursuant to the rule,
the conference report is considered as
having been read.
(For conference report and state-
ment, see proceedings of the House of
August 11, 1988.)
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The
gentlentan from Ohio [Mr. &roams]
will be recognized for 30 minutes, and
the gentleman from Illinois [Mr.
HYDE] will be recognized for 30 min-
utes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman
from Ohio [Mr. STOKES].
Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I yield
myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support
of the conference report to accompany
H.R. 4387, the Fiscal Year 1989 Intelli-
gence Authorization Act. This was an
intelligence conference on which the
two committees reached swift agree-
ment. Essentially, in terms of legisla-
tive content, it includes the House pro-
visions and several Senate provisions
not originally found in the House bill.
These include a requirement for regu-
lar reports to the Intelligence Commit-
tees on the appointment and activities
of the CIA's inspector general and 1-
year special death gratuity extended
for defense attaches killed because of
hostile or terrorist acts.
The funding authorized by the bill,
which is set forth in the classified
schedule of authorization incorporated
by reference, is described in detail in
the classified annex to the statement
of managers accompanying the confer-
ence report. Both are available for the
review of all Members of the House in
the Offices of the Intelligence Com-
mittee. I can say that your committee
is pleased with the recommendations
for funding contained in those docu-
ments.
I wish to commend all members of
the Committee on Conference for
their participation throughout the
year in the budget authorization proc-
ess and, particularly, the gentleman
from Wyoming [Mr. Cris/it:A, the
ranking minority member of the Sub-
committee on Program and Budget
Authorization. As always, the commit-
tee has relied greatly on the assistance
and helpful cooperation of Mr. HYDE,
the ranking minority member of the
full committee, in reaching this con-
ference agreement.
Mr. Speaker, I believe that the im-
pression is sometimes given that the
Intelligence Committee is deeply divid-
ed on partisan basis. It is true that
there are such issues from time to
time but, in my experience as a
member of this committee and par-
ticularly as chairman, they have been
rare and, where the divisions have oc-
curred, they have been on principle.
They have been fairly debated and
or each other's sincerely held
positions.
But this bill, which represents the
major, annual recurring work of the
committee, reflects, as it has for so
many years before, strong bipartisan
agreement by all members of the Com-
mittee on the Appropriate level of re-
sources and administrative authorities
for our Intelligence Services. These
agencies are, as I have said in the past,
among the finest, if not the finest, in
the world.
The committee believes that the
level of funding recommended in the
conference report is appropriate and
will sustain the kind of intelligence ca-
pabilities and the level of intelligence
activities necessary to protest this
country and provide its policymakers
and military commanders with the
necessary intelligence information.
Obviously, we would all wish that
more resources were available for in-
telligence but they are not available
and likely will not be available in the
years to come at the same levels of
growth as they have been in the past.
Therefore, the intelligence challenge
we will face in the future will be a
tougher one than that which we now
face. We will have to do more with less
In the years to come I think, however,
that the recommendations of the
Committee of Conference for fiscal
year 1989 will stand us in good stead
by permitting a level of intelligence ac-
tivity sufficient to support U.S. for-
eign, defense, and economic programs.
I should note in closing that the
fiscal year 1989 authorization levels
recommended in the conference report
are consistent with the budget resolu-
tion and fully congruent with those
recommended in the fiscal year 1989
defense authorization bill vetoed by
the President.
Mr. Speaker, this conference report
is rather straightforward and fully
supported on both sides of the aisle. I
endorse it wholeheartedly and urge its
adoption by the House.
Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he
may consume to the gentleman from
Florida (Mr. FASCELL], the distin-
guished chairman of the Committee
on Foreign Affairs.
Mr. FASCELL. Mr. Speaker, I thank
the gentleman for yielding time to me.
I rise in support of the conference
report, and I rise also for the purpose
of making some legislative history
here.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to engage
the gentleman from Ohio, the distin-
guished chairman of the Intelligence
Committee, in a colloquy. It is my un-
derstanding that the conference
report currently before the House au-
thorizes the appropriation of funds
and personnel positions for the Office
of Security Evaluation [SEG) under
the direction of the Director of Cen-
tral Intelligence.
It is my understanding that the Sec-
retary of State and the Director of
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Central Intelligence are currently ne-
gotiating the parameters of the SEO
in order that this unit can best assist
the Secretary of State with respect to
counterintelligence security standards
at U.S. diplomatic facilities abroad.
It is my further understanding that
there is at present a disagreement be-
tween the Secretary and the Director
of Central Intelligence on the specific
functions of the SEO. The Director
believes that the SEO should inde-
pendently set security standards for
U.S. missions overseas.
The Secretary of State, however,
under the law, is required to set such
standards and insists that the SEO's
function must be advisory to him. It is
clear that this should be worked out
amicably. The reason I raise this issue
Is that, while the Secretary of State
sets and implements security stand-
ards, clear improvements in this area
are imperative. Therefore, the techni-
cal expertise of the entire intelligence
community must be put to work to col-
laborate in recommending standards
that meet the threat. It is the Secre-
tary's responsibility to set these stand-
ards and to see to it that they are en-
forced. It should be the SEO's respon-
sibility to monitor compliance and to
Independently and objectively evalu-
ate compliance.
Is it your understanding that the
intent of this authorization is to au-
thorize a joint operation under the Di-
rector of Central Intelligence which
will be staffed with personnel from
the Department of State and from
other intelligence agencies? Further-
more, is it also your understanding
that the intent of this authorization is
to permit SEO to:
? Inspect U.S. diplomatic facilities
abroad and make appropriate recom-
mendations with respect to counterin-
telligence security matters, and
Provide the necessary technical as-
sistance and personnel to formulate
and recommend counterintelligence
security standards to the Secretary of
State.
Finally, Mr. Speaker, is it also the
understanding of the gentleman that
this authorization does not lessen,
change in any way, or otherwise con-
flict with the statutory authority of
the Secretary of State to set security
standards for our diplomatic and con-
sular facilities overseas?
Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, if the
gentleman will yield, those are my un-
derstandings. The reason for this dis-
pute is that there have been a series of
failures in the security of U.S. mis-
sions overseas. It is my hope that this
disagreement will be resolved swiftly
and that the Secretary and the Direc-
tor can agree on procedures that
permit full and careful consideration
of all counterintelligence and security
issues before standards are promulgat-
ed. If not, the President should quick-
ly act to make the necessary decisions.
Mr. FASCELL. I thank the distin-
guished chairman for his statement.
Mr. Speaker, I include section 103 of
Public Law 99-399. the Omnibus Dip-
lomatic Security and Anti-Terrorism
Act of 1986. regarding the Secretary of
State's authority and responsibility
with respect to embassy security In
the RECORD at this point.
SEC 103. RESPONSIBII.ITY OF THE SECRETARY OF
STATE
(a) Sscuarry Foricrioss.?The Secretary
of State shall develop and implement (in
consultation with the heads of other Feder-
al agencies having personnel or missions
abroad where appropriate and within the
scope of the resources made available) poli-
cies and programs, including funding levels
and standards, to provide for the security of
United States Government operations of a
diplomatic nature and foreign government
operations of a diplomatic nature in the
United States. Such policies and programs
shall include?
(1) protection of all United States Govern-
ment personnel on official duty abroad
(other than those personnel under the com-
mand of a United States area military com-
mander) and their accompanying depend-
ents:
(2) establishment and operation of securi-
ty functions at all United States Govern-
ment missions abroad (other than facilities
or installations subject to the control of a
United States area military commander);
(3) establishment and operation of securi-
ty functions at all Department of State fa-
cilities in the United States; and
(4) protection of foreign missions, interna-
tional organizations, and foreign officials
and other foreign persons in the United
States, as authorized by law.
(b) OVERSIGHT OT POSTS ABROAD.?The Sec-
retary of State shall?
(1) have full responsibility for the coordi-
nation of all United States Government per-
sonnel assigned to diplomatic or consular
posts or other United States missions
abroad pursuant to United States Govern-
ment authorization (except for facilities, in-
stallations, or personnel under the com-
mand of a United States area military com-
mander); and
(2) establish appropriate overseas staffing
levels for all such posts or missions for all
Federal agencies with activities abroad
(except for personnel and activities under
the command of a United States area mili-
tary commander).
(c) FEDERAL AGENCY.?As used in this title
and title III, the term "Federal agency" in-
cludes any department or agency of the
United States Government.
Mr. HYDE. Mr. Speaker, I yield
myself such time as I may consume.
(Mr. HYDE asked and was given per-
mission to revise and extend his re-
marks.)
Mr. HYDE. Mr. Speaker, I have lis-
tened to the colloquy between the two
distinguished gentlemen and would
like to add a few words.
I agree that this law does not pur-
port to change any of several previous
statutory provisions on authorities in
this area. But we should also clarify
that our colloquy is not intended to in-
fluence the manner in which the ongo-
ing debate between the CIA and the
State Department is resolved. That
_debate concerns whether the SEO
should have additional authorities.
In my understanding, some contend
that certain of the Secretary of State's
traditional powers over embassy secu-
rity already have been, or in the
future should be, delegated to others?
as allowed within the law. Some be-
lieve, for Instance, that a prior memo-
randum between Mr. Shultz and Mr.
Webster and a letter from Colin
Powell delegated responsibilities to
the Security Evaluation Office. An-
other issue is whether a formal ap-
peals procedure should exist if the
Secretary of State disregards the
SEO's advice on standards, enforce-
ment, or other measures.
There are differing opinions within
the Congress on where the agencies
should compromise and on what deci-
sion the President should make if the
Issue goes to him. But, as Mr. STOKES
and Mr. FASCELL point out, that is
where the decision should be made.
Being in the unique position of serv-
ing on both the Intelligence and For-
eign Affairs Committees, I would like
to add here a special plea. I certainly
do not wish to see these proud bodies
become a mere pawn in various turf
battles, rather than concentrating on
exercising their oversight function to
ensure that the job gets done. This
would cause lasting bitterness between
the committees and impede desperate-
ly needed security improvements.
Just as I believe the State Depart-
ment and the intelligence agencies
must work together if these severe,
worldwide, and long-term security
problems are to be solved, so too I be-
lieve the Foreign Affairs and Intelli-
gence Committees must cooperate
closely and harmoniously. It will take
all our combined wisdom, influence,
and budgetary authorities to reverse
decades of neglect. This is no time for
jurisdiction battles, and there is plenty
of work to go around. The Intelligence
Committee certainly does not intend
to diminish the Foreign Affairs Com-
mittee's role. On the contrary, we
deeply appreciate the excellent work
already done in this area by Mr. FAS-
cm. and my other colleagues. We an-
ticipate their further initiatives. Those
of us on the Intelligence Committee
wish to coordinate closely with them
and complement their actions through
our own measures.
Mr. Speaker, I want to join my dis-
tinguished colleague and good friend,
Mr. STOKES, the esteemed chairman of
the House Permanent Select Commit-
tee on Intelligence in urging the
House to adopt this conference report.
The chairman has adroitly summa-
rized the main provisions of the con-
ference report on H.R. 4387, the Intel-
ligence Authorization Act for Fiscal
Year 1989.
As noted already, it authorizes a
classified amount for carrying on a
range of important US. intelligence
activities. It retains the House-passed
provision which codifies the Defense
Intelligence Agency's current policy to
disclose to the next of kin all live
sighting reports of any U.S. citizens
who were POW's, MIA's, or otherwise
unaccounted for in the Vietnam con-
flict. The conference report also in-
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September 14, 1988 CONC7Kkbbiuly /ti,k.AJni, 1-1%."
" cludes.the House bill's provision to es-
tablish a demonstration project to de-
termine the effects of lump sum and
periodic payments on the recruitment
and retention of personnel and on
field investigations in the New York
field division of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation. That field division has
extremely important and taxing coun-
terintelligence responsibilities. It is ex-
pected that the demonstration project
will help us determine whether the
proposed economic incentives will en-
hance counterintelligence capabilities
in that significant locale.
The statement of managers accom-
panying the conference report notes
with approval the efforts thus far of
the intelligence community to support
law enforcement agencies in their nar-
cotics interdiction responsibilities. The
conferees request a report from the
Secretary of Defense and the Director
of Central Intelligence, in concert with
law enforcement officials, on this im-
portant subject by March 1, 1989. The
statement of managers further makes
clear that, while some progress has
been made, we remain concerned
about the intelligence community's
foreign counterintelligence and securi-
ty programs. The conference report
therefore calls upon the Director of
Central Intelligence to conduct a com-
prehensive review of the organization
and effectiveness of U.S. counterintel-
ligence and security efforts and report
to the House and Senate Intelligence
Committees his views on these matters
with the fiscal year 1990 budget.
Of course, I cannot feel enthusiasm
for every provision of the conference
report. In particular, I, as well as the
other Republican members of the In-
telligence Committee, continue to be-
lieve that the usual annual prohibito-
ry provision in this conference report
against support to the Nicaraguan
democratic resistance for military or
paramilitary operations is a tragic mis-
take and cruel injustice. Nevertheless,
as has been the case in recent years,
the issue of aid to the Nicaraguan
freedom fighters has been addressed
in other legislation.
At this point in time, it is appropri-
ate to remind the House that this will
probably be the last intelligence au-
thorization bill which Chairman
STOKES will manage on the floor of
this House. I for one, and I am certain
the rest of the committee members
and staff, will miss the quiet compe-
tence, good-natured fairness, and gra-
cious goodwill of this warm-hearted
gentleman during his stewardship at
the helm of the Intelligence Commit-
tee. He is truly one of the kindest and
finest individuals to have served in
this institution.
In conclusion, I would urge the
adoption of the conference report,
and, in doing so, I take this opportuni-
ty to salute my good friend, Lou
STOKES, for his leadership on this leg-
islation and throughout the last 2
years as chairman of the Intelligence
Committee.
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It also should be mentioned that our
committee is unusually blessed by very
dedicated and able, keenly intelligent
and energetic staff, Mr. Tom Smeeton
of the minority, Steve Nelson of the
minority, Diane Dornan of the minori-
ty, Marty Faga, Mile O'Neil and Diane
Andrews of the majority, and several
others. In fact, all of the staff are
dedicated public servants and help
make our difficult job somewhat
easier.
Mr. Speaker. I yield 3 minutes to the
gentlemars from New Hampshire (Mr.
Sauna
Mr. SMITH of New Hampshire. Mr.
Speaker, I thank the gentleman from
Illinois for yielding time to me.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to briefly address
section 404 of the conference report.
This section requires that all live
sighting reports that correlate or
could possibly correlate to an Ameri-
can missing in action from the Viet-
nam war be made available to the next
of kin of that citizen.
I originally offered this language as
an amendment to the intelligence bill
when it was first considered by the
House back in May of this year. It was
the product of a compromise worked
out between myself and Representa-
tive SMARR. I would like to take this
opportunity to thank the chairman of
the committee, Mr. STOKES, and the
ranking minority member. Mr. HE,
for keeping this important language in
the conference report. I also thank the
gentleman from California (Mr. LAGO-
MARSIN0], the gentleman from New
York [Mr. SOIARZ], and the gentleman
from New York (Mr. Sotordopil for
their support and efforts to work out
this compromise language.
Mr. Speaker, the purpose of section
404 is simple. It would place current
POW/MIA disclosure policy into law.
It is the culmination of nearly 4 years
of work on my part and on the part of
many of my colleagues on both sides
of the aisle.
While I fought for and would have
preferred stronger disclosure lan-
guage, as contained in H.R. 2260, a bill
that I had introduced in April of last
year, I believe section 404 is an impor-
tant first step. Family members of our
POW's and MIA's have suffered for
far too long, waiting for any shred of
Information regarding the fate of
their missing relative. They should
have access to all reports regarding
their relative, and section 404 will
ensure that they do. It is long overdue
and welcome.
Section 404 will also ensure that the
next administration is bound by cur-
rent policy. The POW/MIA issue is
too important to be subject to partisan
whims and political pressure. Our
policy must remain consistent?from
administration to administration.
Additionally, this section will put
the DIA and other Government agen-
cies on notice that we expect their
fullest cooperation with the family
members.
In closing, Mr. Speaker, it is fitting
that this legislation should pass
during this week as we celebrate
POW/MIA recognition day this
coming Friday. Hopefully, we will soon
not need any more recognition days
and will achieve a full accounting of
all those listed as missing in action. I
for one pledge to continue my efforts
to achieve this goal and am heartened
by the victory we have today. While it
may be small, any victory is welcome
when you are a family member who
has waited for 20 years and heard
nothing.
Mr. HYDE. Mr. Speaker, I thank the
gentleman from New Hampshire for
his comments.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the
gentleman from California (Mr. LAG?.
MARSINOL
(Mr. LAGOMARSINO asked and
was given permission to revise and
extend his remarks.)
Mr. LAGOMARSINO. Mr. Speaker,
I thank the gentleman from Illinois
for yielding time to me.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the
Intelligence Act authorization and to
point out an important provision relat-
ing to our POW/MIA's in Southeast
Asia.
During consideration of this legisla-
tion in the House on May 26, 1988, I
worked with my Colleagues BOB SMITH
of New Hampshire, JERRY SOLOMON,
STEVE SOLAR?, and BEN Grtsuri in of-
fering an amendment that would re-
quire all intelligence agencies to make
available to the families of our missing
servicemen all records and reports, in-
cluding live sightings, which correlate
or could possibly correlate to their
next of kin. This amendment main-
tains the privacy of the families and
protects our sources and methods of
Intelligence collection. In other words,
it codifies into law the current De-
fense Department "full disclosure"
policy, and will bind the next adminis-
tration. This "Smith" amendment
became part of the bill, without objec-
tion, and, as chairman of the House
POW/MLA Task Force, I am very en-
couraged that it was retained by the
conference.
The crafting of this provision, and
the strong support it has received,
clearly shows the solid, unified, bipar-
tisan way Congress is helping to re-
solve the fate of these brave Ameri-
cans This amendment is also endorsed
by the National League of Families?
the relatives of our POW/MLA's. Of
course, the real obstacles to gaining
the fullest possible accounting of our
POW/MIA's lie in Hanoi, not Wash-
ington.
I urge my colleagues to join me in
supporting this important measure
and ensuring that America's longing
POW/MIA families receive the infor-
mation to which they are entitled
about their missing fathers, brothers,
husbands, and sons.
Mr. STOKRS. Mr. Speaker, I yield
myself such time as I may consume.
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Mr. Speaker, section 404 of the con-
e ference report is identical to section
404 of the House-passed bill. This sec-
tion was offered as an amendment by
the gentleman from New Hampshire
[Mr. SrarrH] and was language that
had been worked out between the In-
telligence and Foreign Affairs Com-
mittees, the POW/MIA Task Force,
the Defense Intelligence Agency, and
the National League of Families. It is
an accurate and straightforward codi-
fication of the current DIA disclosure
policy with respect to information, in-
cluding live sightings, about POW/
MIA's from the Vietnam era. It is a re-
sponsible piece of legislation and I ap-
plaud the interest of the gentleman
from New Hampshire in working with
the committees on it.
Mr. HYDE. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3
minutes to the gentleman from Cali-
fornia [Mr. LI:mount], a very valued
member of our committee who will be
leaving us, unfortunately, at the end
of this year.
(Mr. LUNGREN asked and was given
permission to revise and extend his re-
marks.)
Mr. LUNGREN. Mr. Speaker, as a
member of the committee I would just
like to add my words to those of
others in terms of concern expressed
over the level of security that present-
ly exists at missions around the world.
I hope that the statements that were
entered into the RECORD here today
will guide the State Department and
others to take seriously the mission
that they have in this regard. I want
to make it clear that it is a bipartisan
concern and it Is a bipartisan hope
that that concern will be addressed.
Second, as a Member who has had
the opportunity to work for 2 years on
this committee, I still have a concern
as to the emphasis we have on the
counterintelligence side of our oper-
ations. I believe the authorization that
we bring forward gives us an opportu-
nity to have that emphasis expressed.
Finally, Mr. Speaker, as we talk
about these various things, it seems
sometimes that we are reluctant to ex-
press the qualities that we find in the
personnel who are involved in our in-
telligence community representing the
United States, both within this coun-
try and around the world. I for one
would like to say that my 2 years' ex-
perience on this committee has given
me an insight into the quality of
people we have working in this field
and the tremendously simulating, in
an intellectual sense, activities they
are involved in, and the enormous con-
tribution they make to our country as
well as the sacrifices they make. Be-
cause of the nature of the work, much
of what they have done is not com-
monly talked about or publicly ex-
pressed. Nonetheless, it seems to me
important that we acknowledge the
work that they have done, and that we
let our constituents know that they
are trealendously well served by the
men and women who presently popu-
late our intelligence services. Perhaps
many times they are taken for grant-
ed, sometimes because they are out of
the public eye. but other times just be-
cause they happen to be doing a very,
very good job. Mr. Speaker, they are
doing an indispensable job; in other
words, one we could not possibly do
without.
I thank the gentleman from Illinois
for yielding me this time.
Mr. HYDE. Mr. Speaker, I have no
further requests for time, and I yield
back the balance of my time.
Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I yield
myself such time as I many consume.
Mr. SPBAKER, I just want to take
an additional moment to add my com-
ments to the notification that the gen-
tleman from California [Mr. LUNGREN]
also will be leaving this committee. He
has certainly been one of the valuable
members of this committee and one
whom we have depended upon a great
deal during the time of his service on
this committee. His service has cer-
tainly been outstanding, and we want
to congratulate him not only for the
service he has rendered to this com-
mittee, but for the service he has ren-
dered in this body.
I also want to acknowledge with ap-
preciation the comments of my distin-
guished friend and the ranking minori-
ty member of this committee, the gen-
tleman from Illinois Mfr. HYDE], a
gentleman for whom I have had great
respect and admiration in this body.
Serving with him on this committee
has been a real delight for me. We
have never had a disagreement on any
Issue. We have worked in strictly a bi-
partisan manner to try and do the
business of this committee.
While philosophically there may be
issues upon which we have disagreed,
in terms of matters related to the na-
tional security of this Nation and the
operation of this committee, it has
been a real pleasure to work with him,
and I appreciate very much the contri-
bution he makes to this body.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the
distinguished gentleman from New
York [Mr. McMinn], a member of this
committee.
Mr. McHITGH. Mr. Speaker, I thank
the gentleman for yielding time to me.
I rise in support of the conference
report. As the chairman and the gen-
tleman from Illinois [Mr. HyDE] have
indicated, this conference report
enjoys bipartisan support, which I
think is a tribute, among other things,
to the quality of work of the intelli-
gence community, the quality of the
leadership of the committee on both
sides of the aisle, and to the quality of
the staff that serves us all so well.
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I think from time to time there is
controversy surrounding aspects of the
work of the intelligence community
and, unfortunately, that tends to mask
the broad support that the intelli-
gence community truly enjoys.
The work that it does is critically im-
portant to the security of the United
States. Ninety-five percent of the work
that it does is understood to be critical
to our national security and in fact
enjoys bipartisan support which is re-
flected in this bill.
I would also like to take a moment,
Mr. Speaker, to add my words of admi-
ration and commendation to our dis-
tinguished chairman. I have had the
privilege of serving on this committee
now for 4 years.
One of the great benefits in doing
so, among many, has been in serving
under two very distinguished chair-
men, the gentleman from Indians [Mr.
Haat:Evros] and the gentleman from
Ohio (Mr. &mu).
These gentlemen are among the very
best that public service has to offer,
not only in this Congress but in the
country. It is a real joy and an educa-
tion to serve with them and to learn
from them and in some small way to
contribute with them to the work of
this committee which is so important
to the Congress and to the country.
I also want to comment the ranking
member, the gentleman from Illinois
[Mr. lima], with whom I sometimes
disagree on a small fraction of issues,
but for whom I have great admiration
as well.
Mr. STOKRS Mr. Speaker, I yield
myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the
distinguished gentleman from New
York who is chairman of the Subcom-
mittee on Legislation of the Perma-
nent Select Committee on Intelli-
gence, not only for his nice remarks
but for the type of service he has ren-
dered both to this committee and to
this Congress.
It has been a real joy to serve with
MATT who is one of the most able
Members of this body. I certainly ap-
preciate the service we have had to-
gether.
Last. Mr. Speaker, I just want to say
that we have been privileged on this
committee to have the benefit of one
of the finest, most professional staffs
that I have ever been privileged to
serve with on any committee here in
the Congress. No amount of praise can
be given them that is unwarranted.
They are some of the finest people
that I have ever had the privilege of
working with and this Congress is
Indeed fortunate to have the services
of this staff.
Mr. TRARCANT. Mr. Speaker, I rise in
strong support of the conference report on
H.R. 4387, the Intelligence Authorization Act
for Fiscal Yew 1989. I want to commend my
esteemed colleague from Ohio, Louis
STokEs, for the leadership he displayed in
crafting this legislation. Chairman STOKES was
a key member of the joint congressional corn- -
mittee that investigated the Iran-Contra affair
and has been a leader in reforming and im-
proving United States intelligence operations.
The conference report we are considering
today includes several provisions designed to
avoid the serious foreign policy blunders we
saw in the Iran-Contra affairs. Mr. Speaker, if
we learned anything from the Iran-Contra
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affair it is that the executive and legislative
branches must work together to address vital
national security problems. Complex and kn-
portant covert actions cannot be contracted
out and performed by private Individuals or
government agencies not experienced in
covert or Intelligence activities.
The conference report on H.R. 4387 ad-
dresses some of the concerns that were
raised during the Iran-Contra affair by provid-
ing that any assistance to the Nicaraguan
Contras must be explicitly authorized and ap-
proved by Congress. Mr. Speaker, despite
almost 8 . years of fighting against the Sandi-
nista government the Contras have yet to do-
play the type of unity, sense of purpose, and
widespread support so vital to any democratic
movement Most disturbing is the fact that the
Contras have been led by individuals more
concerned with personal gain and power than
with establishing real democracy in Nicaragua
The inept, greedy, and corrupt leadership of
the Contra movement will doom that move-
ment to failure?no matter how much aid we
send them.
Mr. Speaker, I join with my Democratic and
Republican colleagues in condemning the
formation on live sightings of U.S. MIA's in
Southeast Asia, this information should be
provided to the next of kin as soon as possi-
Mr. Speaker, the conference report on H.R.
4387 is an irnportant piece of legislation and I
urge my colleagues to suport its approval.
Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I have
no further requests for time and I
move the previous question on the
conference report.
The previous question was ordered.
The conference report was agreed to.
A motion to reconsider was laid on
the table. ?
GENERAL LEAVE
Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I ask
unanimous consent that all Members Devil)
Bilbray
may have 5 legislative days in which to Boggs
revise and extend their remarks on the Boland
conference report just agreed to. Honker
Borski
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is Bow,
there objection to the request of the Boucher
gentleman from Ohio? Boxer
Brennan
There was no objection.
on which the yeas and nays are or-
dered.
The vote was taken by electronic
device, and there were?yeas 252, nays
163, not voting 16, as follows:
[Roll No. 313]
YEAS-252
Ackerman Gonzales Nowak
Akaka (Doodling Oskar
Anderson Gordon Oberstar
Andrews Gradiaon Obey
Annunzio Grant Olin
Aspin Gray (IL) Ortiz
Atkins Gray (PA) Owens (NT)
AuCoin Green Owens (VT)
Bartlett Guarini Packard
Bateman Hall (OH) Panetta
Hall (TX) Pease
Beilenson Hamilton Pelosi
Bennett Hatcher Pepper
Berman Hawkins Perkins
Herter Petri
Hertel Pickett
Hochbrueckner Pickle
Holloway Rangel
Houghton Ray
Hoyer Richardson
Hubbard Ridge
Hughes Rinaldo
Hyde Rodin?
Jacobs Roe
-Jef fords Rogers
Jenkins Rostenkowski
Johnson (CT) Roth
Johnson (SD) Roukenia
Jones (NC) Rowland (CT)
Jones (TN) .Rowland (GA)
Jonta Roybal
Ranjorski Russo
Kaptur Sabo
Clinger Kastennteler Saila
Coats Kennedy Savage
Coelho Kennelly Sawyer
Coleman (TX) Klldee . Saxton -
Collins. Kleciska &Muer
Conte .: Honer -Schneider
Conyers Konngu Schroeder
Costello Kostmayer Schumer
Courter Unice Sharp
Coyne Lantos Shaw
Craig Leach (IA) Shays
Crockett Leath (TX) Shumway
Davis (IL) Lehman (CA) Sikorskl
de la Garza Lehman (FL) Sisisk9
DeFazio Levin (MI) Skaggs
Dellums Levine (CA) Skeen
DeWine Lewis (GA) Slattery
Dicks Lipinski Slaughter (NY)
Dingell Livingston Smith (FL)
DioGuardi Lowry (WA) Smith (IA)
Dixon Lulan Smith (NE)
Donnelly Lungren Smith (NJ)
Dorgan (ND) Manton Smith (TX)
Downey Mackey Snowe
Durbin Matsui Solarz
Dwyer Mavroules Spratt
Dymally Mazzoli St Germain
Dyson McCandless Staggers
Early McCloskey Stallings
Edwards (CA) McCollum Stokes
English McCurdy Stratton
Erdreich McHugh Studds
EsPY McMillen (MD) Swift
Evans Meyers Synar
Fascell Mfume Thomas (CA)
Fawell Michel Thomas (GA)
Fmk) Miller (CA) Torres
Feighan Mineta Torricelli
Fish Moakley Udall
Flake Molinari Vento
Flippo Montgomery .Walgren
Florio Moody Weiss
Foglietta Moorhead Wheat
Foley Morella Whittaker ?
Ford (TN) Morrison (CT) Whitten
Frank Mrazek Williams
Gallo Murtha - Wilson
Gejdenson Nagle Wolf
Gephardt Natther Wyden
Gibbons Nelson Wylie
Gilman Nichols Yates
Bates
Sandinista government's refusal to loosen
Brown (CA)
their grip on power and allow true democracy-----, Brown (CO)
to take root in Nicaragua As much as I ANNUAL REPORT OF ST. LAW- Bryant
oppose the Sandinistas, I do not believe that RENcE SEAWAY DEVELOP- Bustamante
further aid to the Contras will result in dernoc- Amin CORPORATION pciR carper
rev! for Nicaragua. However, because of the 1987?MESSAGE FROM THE Chandler
Iltal inWrtance et this iSSUe. It is essential pREsmErrr OF THE uzirrED
that any future shipments of aid to the Con-
Vas be thoroughly debated by Congress. -
That Is why -I strongly support the language
Included in the conference report that bars the
CIA, Department -of Defense, or any other
agency or entity of the federal Government
from providing funds, material, or other assist-
ance to the Contras unless authorized in this
or separate legislation. This provision is
broader than the language currently In place
which prohibits assistance to the Contras by
any entity engaged in intelligence activities.
This loophole allowed the Reagan administra-
tion to justify the National Security Council
staff's activities in the Iran-Contra affair by
darning that the NSC is not an intelligence
agency.
Mr. Speaker we live in a dangerous world.
This reality demands that the United States
undertake certain essential covert actions to
protect our security. Because of the sensitive
and vital nature of many of these activities, It
is essential that the President inform the Con-
gress of covert actions In-a timely manner and
work with the Congress to protect and ensure
national security.
The han-Contra affair is tragic proof that
America cannot afford to have major foreign
affairs initiatives undertaken by inexperienced
cowboys. Hopefully, KR. 4387 will prevent an-
other embarrassing and damaging foreign
policy debacle from ever taking place.
Mr. Speaker, there is one other Important
provision in this bill that I would like to make
note of. The bill requires any department or
agency funded under the bill which has live
sighting reports of United States citizens uri-
accounted for in the Vietnam conflict, to make
such reports available in a timely manner to
the next of kin. The families of the thousands
of MIA's from the Vietnam conflict still are
haunted by the fact that their loved ones still
might be alive in Southeast Asia. If any U.S.
Government agencies or departments have in-
STATES
The SPEAKER pro tempore laid
before the House the following mes-
sage from the President of the United
States; which was read and, together
with the accompanying papers, with-
out objection, referred to the Commit-
tee on Public Works and Transporta-
tion:
(For message, see proceedings of the
Senate of today, Wednesday, Septem-
ber 14, 1988.)
ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE
SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu-
ant to clause 5; rule I, the Chair will
now put the question on both motions
to suspend the rules on which further
proceedings were postponed on Tues-
day, September 13, 1988, in the order
In which that motion was entertained.
Votes will be taken in the following
order. H.R. 4994, by the yeas and nays,
and H.R. 5133, by the yeas and nays.
The Chair will reduce to 5 minutes
the time for any electronic vote after
the first vote in this series.
FEDERAL PRISON INDUSTRIES
REFORM ACT OF 1988
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The
unfinished business is the question of
suspending the rules and passing the
bill, H.R. 4991.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The
question is on the motion offered by
the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr.
KAS1ENMEIKR3 that the House suspend
the rules and pass the bill, H.R. 4994,
NAYS-163
Alexander Archer Ballenger
Anthony ArmeY Barton
Applegate Baker Bentley
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