JOURNAL - OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
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Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel Page 2
Wednesday - 30 July 1969
5. Received a call from Miss Alice
Wahler, assistant to Representative William Cramer (R., Fla.), who
is interested in employment opportunities overseas in the broadcast
field for a young constituent friend of Representative Cramer. Since
the young man, although ostensibly well qualified in the broadcast field,
has little or no college training, I advised that he probably would have
difficulty in locating overseas employment with the Federal Government
in any capacity other than broadcasting but that we would be pleased to
provide employment forms for the constituent's use. Miss Wahler thanked
me but indicated that she did not believe it would be necessary to forward
the forms at this time.
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Talked to
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and advised
earlier meeting
and I did not
that the Agency will be following up later in the fall on the
with
see anything further he need do at the present time. I also
advised that due to vacation schedules and the absence of any present
Agency needs my best estimate is that it would be a month before he may
expect further contact by the Agency.
25X1 8. The transcript of the Director's appearance
before the House Armed Services Commitl_tt on .,4,2Lgz, was forwarded
for the Committee's use and returned to the Agency for safekeeping at
the end of the day.
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4. Met with Representative Edward Hebert (D., La.)
who advised that he has received some questions from other members of
the Louisiana delegation concerning the
I advised Representative Hebert that it was my unaer-
standing that early
this fall on schedule but that I would check the details and be back in touch
with him.
5. Met with Mrs. Mary McLaughlin, Senate
Foreign Relations Committee staff, who advised the Committee does still
need the transcripts of the Director's briefing of 23 June on a daily basis.
I also received from her a copy of the Committee's hearing schedule for
this week.
6. Conversations with various Committee
personnel after the Director's briefing of the House Armed Services
Committee today indicated that the briefing was not only well received
but considered by some as one of the most interesting and capable pre-
sentations that has been given to the Committee.
7. Accompanied the Director and Messrs. Duckett,
Bruce Clark, Carver and to a briefing of the ,full House Armed
aesmisalSprnmittee on the subject of Soviet and ChiCorn military forces.
See Memo for the Record and transcript.
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8. Briefed Robert Michaels House Appropriations
Committee s a , on e s -tus of a long-standing ase. Mr. Michaels
showed no particular concern or curiosity.
Briefed Mr. Michaels on recent developments regarding Sino-Soviet
relations and the Soviet naval visit to Cuba.
Mr. Michaels said he had in mind the Director's request for a date
with Chairman Mahon but had been unable to confirm a time with the Chairman.
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JOURNAL
? OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Monday - 28 July 1969
1. On Saturday, 26 July, Dorothy Fosdick,
Staff Director of the Subcommittee on National Security and International
Operations, said that during the Senate ABM debate on 25 July Senator Fulbright
had claimed that U.S. defense spending exceeded by 25 or 30 percent
that of the Soviet Union. Miss Fosdick said Senator Jackson would like to
be briefed on this subject. I said I was sure we could arrange this, but
thought possibly Senator Jackson had been present at one of our earlier
presentations regarding Soviet and U.S. military expenditures. She said
if the Senator wanted to pursue the matter she would let me know.
2.
Met with Senator Stuart Symington in response
to his query regarding Also present
was Mr. Pat Holt, Consultant of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Senator Symington asked if I preferred to deal with the matter orally. I
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with only Symington said this was perfectly alright
with him but the questions contained in his letter to us were formulated by
Messrs. Pincus and Paul, staff investigators of his Subcommittee, and
it would be much more useful for us to brief them upon their return from
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did not think it necessary for to come over and brief him,
although he asked that his personal greetings be conveyed to
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It was agreed that we would meet with Pincus and Paul to clear up the
matter soon after their return (date still undetermined).
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Armed Services Committee, regarding Representative Clement Zablocki's
request that we testify conc-erning the Soviet MIRV program before Zablocki's
Subcommittee on National Security of House Foreign Affairs Committee. Since
Rivers was not available I referred the question to Mr. Blandford who called
back later to say that he had taken the matter up with Rivers who would neither
approve nor disapprove our complying with Zablocki's request, but would
recommend that we take up the problem with Speaker McCormack since it
raised a jurisdictional question.
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4. Discussed with Boyd Crawford, Staff
Administrator, House Foreign Affairs Committee, Representative Zablocki's
request for a briefing of his Subcommittee on National Security regarding
the Soviet MIRV program. Crawford checked with Chairman Morgan who
agreed with our suggestion that the briefing be done by Mr. Duckett on an
unofficial" basis with no transcript or publicity. I thereupon met with
Representative Zablocki and Subcommittee Staff Consultant Jack Sullivan,
who agreed to this procedure and explained details which they wanted covered.
(See Memo for the Record)
25X1 5. At the Director's request, called Robert
Michaels, House Appropriations Committee staff, to make a date for the
Director to meet with Chairman Mahon later this week. Michaels will call
back.
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6. Received a call from Mr. Al Tarabochia,
Senate Internal Security Subcommittee staff, who advised that he had learned
from Cuban sources that on 14 July a band of Bolivians in the Concha Bamba
area are alleged to have killed and then burned the man who gave away Che
Guevara. It is also alleged that who was supposed to have
escaped back to Cuba through Chile, was also involved. After checking
with WH I advised that the guide who led the Bolivian army to Che Guevara
has been reported by the Bolivian press as having been executed by
Bolivian communists. There is no indication was involved.
7.
Received a call frorr
who advised that his company had heard nothing more from
Agency representatives and inquired whether there is anything further he
? might do. I thanked for his call and advised that I would
relay his inquiry.
8. s Talked to Mr. Earl Morgan, House
Armed Services Committee staff, and confirmed the 10:00 a.m. scheduling
for the DCI briefing on Tuesday, 29 July.
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Friday - 25 July 1969
1. Talked to Mr. John R. Blandford, Chief
Counsel, House Armed 6ervices Committee who advised that the
Chairman will want a transcript of the Director's briefing of the full
Committee on Tuesday. It was agreed that due to the content of the
briefing, however, the Agency should maintain control of the transcript
as in the past.
2. Talked to Mr. Dave Perry,
Legislative Analyst, Bureau of the Budget, and provided various items
of technical information requested in his earlier call concerning
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3. Received a call from Mr. Robert
Fleming, assistant to Representative Claude Pepper (D . , Fla.), who is
seeking information for a constituent and fri.end of Representative Pepper
concerning the possible establishment of a transmitter in the Miami area
beamed at Castro's Cuba. I referred Mr. Fleming to Mr. Jack Leahy, in
the office of the Assistant Secretary of State, Legislative Affairs, as the
appropriate source of information for an open response from Representa-
tive Pepper. Mr. Leahy has been advised.
4. Jack Sullivan, Staff Consultant, Subcommittee
on National Security Policy and Scientific Developments, House Foreign Affairs
Committee, called to say that Subcommittee Chairman Clement Zablocki wished
the Director to testify before the Subcommittee on Soviet MIRV testing on either
Tuesday, 29 July, or Thursday, 31 July. I said Tuesday was out of the question
because of the Director's appearance before the 112REE_Armed_As_zyks_s_g_q___immittee
but I would call back regarding Thursday. I said we normally preferred such
Subcommittee briefings to be cleared with the Chairman of the full Committee
and asked whether Chairman Morgan had been consulted on this. Sullivan said
this had not been done, but reluctantly agreed to take the matter up with Boyd
Crawford, Staff Administrator for the full Committee.
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5. Talked with Boyd Crawford, Staff Administrator
of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, regarding the call we received from
Jack Sullivan, Staff Consultant, Subcommittee on National Security Policy
and Scientific Development of House Foreign Affairs Committee, asking that
the Director brief Representative Zablocki's Subcommittee on the Soviet MIRV
program. After checking with Chairman Morgan, Crawford advised that the
Chairman endorsed Zablocki's request for a briefing. (See Memo for the
Record for details.)
6. Called Frank Slatinshek, Assistant Chief
Counsel, abuse Armed Services Committee, and informed him of the request
to appear before the Zablocki Subcommittee. Slatinshek said he personally
couldn't see how we could avoid complying, but thought Chairman Rivers and
Chief Counsel Blandford should be informed in advance in case they have any
strong objections. Since Rivers and Blandford were out of town for the weekend,
Slatinshek agreed with my suggestion that we explain to Crawford that we
normally discuss sensitive matters of this kind only before, or with the
concurrence of, our parent Subcommittees and that therefore we want to
check it out with Chairman Rivers before making a firm commitment.
7. Mrs. Laird, Secretary to Senator Stuart' Symington,
called on behalf of the Senator to say he wanted to see me at 2:15 on Monday
28 July. (Mrs. Laird was not clear on whether this had to do with the briefing
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8. Mr. Goodwin advised that according to a
television report on hearings conducted by a Subcommittee where both
Senators Tydings and Mathias were present, it was stated that some of the
pollutions of the Potomac River was being blamed on the CIA and the Pentagon.
This apparently was a statement by a witness.
9. Hand carried to Jay Sourwine, on the staff of the
Senate Subcommittee on Internal Security, FBIS material containing the
statements of officials of some of the lesser known Bloc countries at the
Communist Party Conference. I also left with Sourwine classified and
unclassified material on Soviet leaderships. I was quite specific with Sourwine
concerning the sensitivity of this material and he agreed to treat it in accordance
with the caveats I laid down.
I also advised Sourwine that we would be providing him with some
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OFFICE OF T.F.GISLATIVE COUNSEL
Wednesday - 23 July 1969
1. In a chance encounter Representative STAT
William G. Bray (R., Lid.) askPd me to ao with him to his office where
he handed me a letter from one
Mr. Bray explained that the letter a? 'seen a
to a friend of his (uni entified) who passed it on to Bray for appropriate
follow up. C
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I told Mr. Bray
we would give the matter the attention it deserved. The matter has been
referred to WH Division.
2,
Representative P
time, the case o
claims major role in pro-Allied activities in Hungary
and seeks a job with Radio Free Europe.(See Journal of 10 June 1969.)
In response to his request, met with
Mass. who brought up,for the second
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3 Discussed separately with Representative Philbin,
Russ Blandford, Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, and Frank
Slatinshek, Assistant Chief Counsel, plans for the 29 July 19 9 briefing
of the full House Armed Services Committee. All agreed that the primary
emphasis should be on matters related to the Safeguard controversy, i. e.,
Soviet ICBM, ABM, MRV, and SLBM programs. We should also briefly
cover recent developments in ChiCom strategic capabilities and "trouble
spots" such as the Middle East and Vietnam. Mr. Blandford and Mr. Slatinshek
said the session would probably run from 10:00 A. M. to about 1:00 P. M. and
they thought an afternoon session unlikely. They suggested that the Director
have brief backup material in the event of questions on other matters of
current interest such as Korea, Cuba and Eastern Europe.
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Called Mrs. Laird, in the office of Senator
Stuart Symington,
to iThfW?anned
to respond to the Senator's 1 July letter
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was not available this week and wondered
whether early next week would be satisfactory. Mrs. Laird said she would
check with the Senator and advise.
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- Office of Legislative Counsel
- 23 July 1969
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Slatinshek, Assistant Chief
on:
5. Briefed
U_L>use Armed Services
a. status of a long-standing
(Slatinshek
found no problem with this).
. reasons for our strong
skepticism regarding
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(I left with Slatinshek a blind STAT
complicity in
memo on this explaining it was solely
for the background informa-
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Pike. )
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although he has frequently led. people to believe that this is the case. Fascell
thanked e for letting him know this and said this made it easier for him to
deal with
7. Mr. Day, in the office of Representative
W.S. Stuckey (D., Cia. ), calleci and requested a list of Agency publications
or samples of such publications. I told Mr. Day that we did not publish
unclassified material as such except for items like our CIA pamphlet and
personnel brochure, which I offered to him. He thanked me and said he would
appreciate receiving copies of these two items.
8. C/CA Staff, called in response to
J. Sourwine's Chief Counsel, Senate Subcommittee on Internal Security,
inquiry and advised again the Agency had no connection with the Southern
Students Organizing Committee.
9. J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel. Senate Sub-
committee on Internal Security, called again on the case of 25X1
Sourwine recapped our understanding with the Subcommittee on this case
and then went on to say that they might have to take the case to the Attorney
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Sourwine wanted to be sure that they did not violate their agreement with us.
He posed several alternative proposals which they might make to the Attorney
General and asked if I would advise him whether this violated the ground rules
which we had agreed upon.
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Wednesday - 16 July 1969
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11. Mr. Jay Sourwine, Subcommittee
on Internal Security staff, Senate Judiciary Committee, called and asked
whether he could have duplicate copies of the material we had sent to him
on the Moscow International Conference of Communists and Workers
Parties of 5 to 17 June, explaining that they had inadvertently incorporated
the material into Subcommittee files and it was beyond retrieval. I said.
we would be happy to comply if the material is still available.
12. Delivered to Mrs. Maybelle Woolbert,
in the office of Representative Otis Pike (D., N.Y.), at her request an
FBIS package entitled "North Korean Authoritative Statements."
13. Delivered to Mr. Frank Slatinshek,
Assistant Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee,, two FBIS
packages, a two-volume sMy entitred ''North Korean Authoritative
Statements," and texts of two KCNA broadcasts on the Pueblo.
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NORTH KOREA
11 January 1968
SOUTKERN SPY BOATS DETAINED OM? EAST COAST
ryongyang NONA International Service' in English 1000 OMT 11 Jan 68 13
[Text] Pyongyang--The U.S. imperialist aggressor troops again dispatched from
c:n.1:. ',hi:- morning hundreds of fishing boats and npy boots disk:uiscd as fishing
bos.L-. into the coastal waters of our side o'ff the eastern coast to perpetrate
hostile acts.
This noon our naval ships on patrol duty on the spot detained the vessels involved
in the hostile acts. As long as the U.S. imperialist aggressor troops conduct
reconnaissance by sending spy boats, our naval ships will continue to take
determined countermeasures.
PREPARATIONS BEING STEPPED UP IN SOUTH
Pyong, ng KONA International Service in English 1517 GMT 10 Jan 68 B
[Text] Pyyang7-The U.S. imperialist aggressors are feverishly stepnir:eup war
pr. ,arations n South Korea, reinforcing the puppet army and bringingn military
equipmnt, whi.:Nintensifying from the outset of the new year provo2Jtive acts
In the area along'he military demarcation line and on the sea ar'inst the
northern half of thepublic.
According to press repO's. from Seoul, 'the-U.S. imperia, who introduced
last year 3,000-ton class .7estroyers and other combat uipment and lethal weapons
into South Korea in gross vi,liation of the Korean a-,astice agreement are contem-
plating bringing into South this year some. :?/-kinds of military equipment
including naval vessels and miliry aircraft .,',/different types and automatic
small arms.
Besides, the U.S. imperialist aggressot_ instructed the South Korean puppets to
pressgang 80,000 youth who were forr?:ly ''.':!.squalified for military service" for
t;wir physical defects, in additito nearl,200,000 youth on the conscription
list this year.
The enemies also plan to,(.2and Inchon, Ulsan, Noki;T\Pohang, Yosu, and other
major ports for the anrage of 8,000 to 40,000-tonas5 naval vessels and
cargo ships and pusy...:i.ead with a so-called "plan for t.,\construction of express
highways" for the.oMpletion bf the military supply routeLlinking Pusan, Inchon
and other major :,..orts on the eastern, western, and southernasts with the
military dem,dation line.
The frar'-..c intensification of playing with fire by the U.S. imper,:'list aggressors
is seen in the fact that they are alining the South Korean pupplique
mo/closely with the Japanese imperialists and dragging them deeper in', their
w_r of aggression in South Vietnam.
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10 January 1963
INFILTE.:TION OF BOATS FROM SOUTH DET;O1.NCZ0
'eyeagyang K=A International Service in English 0335 GNT 9 Jan 68 B
[Text] Pyongyang--MINJU CHOSON today prints a commentary denouncing the U.S.
imperieliet aggressors for again infiltrating on 6 January many armed boats, mingled
with fishing boats, under the escort of armed warships into the coastal waters of
our side off the east coast to perpetrate provocative acts despite repeated warnings
of our side.
The cor?entary says: This hostile act committed by the U.S. imperialist aggressor
troops from the outset of the new year is an extension of their recent ever more
frenzied military provocations. It clearly shows how viciously the enemies are
trying to unleash a new war in Korea.
Far from drawing a lesson from the dirt- end of escort boat,No....56swhich was -sent-,
tor11-6-Wo-c,to-g-el-sf=:de"feWiTeures of our side in January efel.ast. year, the U.S.
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.:i.s-Caggressors have all along been engaged in provocative, hostile acts and
letely have gone co far as to unhesitctingly perpetrate the vicious criminal act
of infiltrating into the coastal waters of our side boats carrying espionage and
subversive-elements, mingled with fishing boats of South Korea, by taking advantage
of the compatriotic measures of the-government of the republic for Sauth Korean
fishermen.
The enemies illegally infiltrated from 2 to 13 December last year more than 3,150
fishing boats and boats of spies into the coastal waters of our aide ? on 14 occasions
to perpetrate hostile acts against the northern half of the republic. Infiltration
of armed spy boats and provocative acts were unending after that.
Pointing out that the U.S. imperialist aggressors perpetrated military provocations
not only on the sea but on the ground and in the air, the commentary gees on: Owing
to the frenzied military provocations of the enemies, the_drepilitsLized..y.opehas.
been turned into a battle position and tension has increased as never before along
tl.7.--HM:a'ry-deetion-linerthereby-causing
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While trying to find a way out of the crisis of their shaking colonial rule in the
provocation of a new war, the U.S. imperialist aggressors are intensifying fascist
suppression and "anticommunist" rackets more frenziedly than ever before. But, such
reckless maneuvering is nothing but the last kick of the doomed and it will Only
lesten their doomsday, the commentary. emphasizes. It warns the U.S. imperialist
aggressors not to run wild, looking steaight at the reality of today.
In conclusion the commentary says: Rallied rock-firm with one ideology and one will
around Comrade Kim Il-song, the respected and beloved leader of the 40 million Korean
people and ever-victorious iron-willed commander, our people and the peoplets army,
a steel-strong army each man of which is a match for 100 enemies, are fully prepared
to smash the U.S. imperialist aggressors at one blow no matter when and where they
may invade and are closely watching the reckless provocative machinations of the enemy.
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11ORTH KOREA
Lt Yi Chun-su, security o:::icer of our side, lodged a strong 'protest with the
enmies against the pr ?catioaa they perpetrated on two occasions to deliberately
hnder security personnel ofour side in the performance of their routine duties
and two cases of violation of the provisions from 28 December last year to
5 January thi5 year.
to the fact that lately the procovative acts of the enemies are becoming
ever rxre frequent, the security officr or our aide sharply denounced this as a
(delibcrate machination of the enemies to wreck security and order in the joint
security area.
Notin,...: that the enemies had better prudently think over what consequences these
unending provocations will bring about, the security officer of our side warned:
The enemies must know that if they persist in such provocations, they will be
meted out deserving punishment.
U.S. INP.12137,LISTS TRYING TO PROVOKE'N'LW WAR
lyongyang KC:;A International Service in English 0410 GMT 8 Jan 68 D
[Text) Pyoryar....--A commentary of todayrs NODO;;G SUMUN vehemently condemns the
U.S. imperialist.aggressors for viciously perpetrating reckless provocations
against the northern half of the rep'ablic from the beginning of the new year.
out that the 'U.S. lmperialit aggressor troops, who had :Lately leen engaged
jo ceasclers provocations on the east coast, :I.rifiltrated many armed. boats mingled
with fish ng 'noats, under the escort of ar.Aed 7.farships, into the coastal waters
cf our 5:tee off the east coast on 6 January and perpetrated provocative acts, the
commentary stresses: This was an extension of the hostile acts of the enemies and
their new heinous expression.
This once again proves that the U.S. imperialist aggressors are further aggravating
tension in Korean and running wild to provoke a new war.
1:xposirz the provocative acts on the ground and sea and in the air of the U.S.
imperialist aggressors who infiltrated over 3,150 South Korean fishing boats,
including naval vessels and. spy boats, into the coastal waters of our side betwr.en
and 18 Doember last year and illegal1y introduced machineguns of large caliber
and other heavy and automatic wcapcns into the demilitarized zone on 45 occasions
between 5 and 3: December last year, the conientary notes: The provocations of
the U.S. imperiali:it aggressors are becoming ever more frequent and growing in
scope as the days go by.
Owing to the deliberate, reckless military provocations -of the U.S. imperialists
who are running amuck to ignitc.a new war, the domilitaized zone today has been
turned into a battle site, the moat serious tension since the truce has been created
in the area of t.1.,e military demarcation line, thus causing a grave situation in
which a war may break out at any moment-,.
Last year the enemies perpetrated altogether more than 8,000 cases of violation
of the military armistice agreement agains our side on the ground, sea, and in
the air and fired into the portion of our side over 125,000 bullets, more than
15 times that fired in the past 13 years from the ceasefire to.:September 1966, and
moarly 1,270 shells, more than 91 times that fired in the last 13 years since
the truce, the commentary points out.
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Li.3g O NORTH KOREA
Noting that the military provocations of the imperialists designed to
the Korean armistice have reached a reckless stage, the commentary brands
this situation as a last kick of the U.S. iderialists to patch up their shaking
colonial rule over South Korea and save thee selves from doom by provoking a new
war.
The commenl..;ry castigates the U.S. imperialist aggressors for intensifying as
. never before fascist repression and "anticommunist" rackets, for clamping down
on. the South Korean patriots, and for spreadihg false propaganda about a
noocr.istent "threat from the north," an "attack," and the like, while continually
bringing into South Korea new-type combat equipment and reinforcing the puppet
:my in gvosa.violation of the military armistice agreement.
The U.S. Imperialist aggressors had better not miscalculate but look straight
at realities, the commentary warns. The wilder the U.S. imperialists and their
lackeys run in fascist suppression and war provocations, the higher the workers,
poasants, students, and intellectuals and all otherpatriotic forces of South
Korea will raise the flames of the national salvation struggle for wiping out
the enemy. and the deadlier punishment they will mete out to the aggressors, the
co?cntary declares. If the U.S. imperialist aggressors pounce upon us recklessly,
ovr people and the people's-army, each man being a match for 100 enemies,
unied rock-firm with one ideology and one will around Comrade Kim Il-song, ever-
victorious, iron-willed commander and. great leader of the 40 million Korean
people, will rise up in a heroic struggle and deal the enemy and hundredfold,
a thousandfold retaliatory blow and sweep the U.S. imperialist aggressors out Of
our land, the commentary stresses in conclusion.
C-'112ERATJilN WELCOMES TWO FORMER BOK SOLDIERS
Pyong KCNA International Service in En.,lisn 0345 GMT 9 Jan 68 B
[Text] rYoh?ng--A meeting welcoming Chon Kyong-il and Kwon Chunike,
South Korean PU,t army soldiers who crossed over to the northwas held at
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Present at the meeting t'oj.-sther with a large numberT chollima rideils and youth
and students in the city werunctionaries of cal government organs and
social organizations as well a'shon Yong-p' who met his son Chon Kyong-il
after 1.8 years of separation.
Kim Sok-hun, vice chairman. of t.cH3mhun Lty People's Committee, made a
welc)ming speech. He wormlelcomes in thO-ame of the entire working people
of Hambung the former Korean puppet army '.:.1.diers Chon. Kyong-il and Kwon
Chun-take, highly 37:.:1Sing their act of coming toembrace of the socialist
fatherland of.,0T-ade Kim Il-';ong, the respected andoved leader of the 40
million Kor,....,n people, by de!.,Irminedly crossing over totenorth from the den
of cr1rdI to endure any longer the colonial faseistitle and new war
pre- ..,:tion maneuvers of the U.S. imperialist aggressors, the 1,;!,Iterate enemy
o'?-the Korean people, and their lackeys Pak Chong-hui clique.
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Accompanied Messrs. Duckett, Bruce Clarke
and o 're enators Henry M. Jackson, John Tower and Peter
Dominic , and Senate Committee staff members Ed Braswell and Dorothy
Fosdick, on Soviet and ChiCom strategic weapons, the Sino/Soviet situation,
Eastern Europe and the In response to Jackson's
request, Messrs. Duckett and Clarke will prepare fact sheets for delivery
to the Senator tomorrow morning for use in the Safeguard debate in executive
session. The Senator was clearly reminded of the security hazards of
discussing the above matters in large groups, even in executive session.
We told him that any written material involved such as the fact sheets must
be classified "Top Secret Sensitive." He assured us he would keep this much
in mind. Jackson and the others seemed genuinely appreciative of our
as sistance.
8. Mrs. Woolbert, in the office of
Representative Otis Pike (D., N.Y.), called in an effort to locate an
FBIS take on a North Korean statement detailing the sailing orders of the
Pueblo. This material had been earlier provided to Congressman Pike in
connection with the Izaaial...Subcommittee on U.S.S. P e. House Armed
FBIS, the item
was identified and arrangements were made to once again provide it to
Congressman Pike in the form of the two-volume study entitled "North
Korean Authoritative Statements."
2&__Lyi?rnittee. With the aid of
9. In response to his earlier call to
spoke to Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel, Special Subcommittee
on U.S.S. Pueblo, House Armed Services Committe and informed him
?le
that we had identified the North Korean statement concerning the Pueblo's
sailing orders which was of interest to Chairman Pike. Slatinshek said the
material previously supplied by the Agency to Congressman Pike which
contained this statement was not available to him and it was agreed that we
would send it directly to Congressman Pike and provide Mr. Slatinshek his
own copy. Mr. Slatinshek also asked if we could provide him with North
Korean takes of 8 January and 11 January 1968 dealing specifically with
"U.S. Provocation," and this was done.
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12. Met with Bill Woodruff, on the staff of the
Senate Appropriations Committee, and talked with him about Senator
Symington's letter to the Director posing ten questions regarding sensitive
Woodruff suggested three possibilities for
handling our response with Symington. (See Memorandum for the Record
for details. )
Left with Mr. Woodruff a letter from the Director dated 11 July
1969 covering Woodruff requested some
additional information on this and I told him I would be back in touch with him.
Woodruff said he would be talking with Bob Michaels, of the House
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Woodruff that we would be
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tests and the latest Soviet
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Mr. George Murphy, of the Committee staff, expressed an interest
in a book entitled:
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would be back in touch on this in a few days.
Talked with Mr. Slatinshek and Mr. Blandford about the scope of
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tentatively scheduled for the week of 28 July. Mr. Blandford felt this should
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Friday - II July 1969
1. Talked with Bill Woodruff, on the staff of
the Senate Appropriations Committee, and advised him
clearances for Guy McConnell have been approved. I also urged Woodruff
to get together with Bob Michaels, on the staff of the House Appropriations
Committee, at his earliest opportunity to discuss the procedure to be
followed concerning the funding of the Radios.
2. Called Winston Bryant, on the staff of
Senator John McClellan (D., Ark. ), to advise him of Senator Ervin's
decision to allow the Agency to appear before the Constitutional Rights .
Subcommittee in executive session on S. 782. I told Bryant the appearance
has been scheduled for the 22nd of July at 10:30 a. m. and expressed our
sincere hope that Senator McClellan would attend.
3. Advised Oneta Stockstill, on the staff
of the House Armed Services Committee that the week of 28 July appeared
to be the best time for the Director to brief the full House Armed Services
Committee. Mrs. Stockstill said she will pass this on and be back in touch
with us with a suggested date.
4. Senator Joseph Tydings' (D. , Md.) office
called and suggested that I see the Senator at 2:00 p.m. on Thursday, 17 July.
This has to do with our interest in approaching the Senator regarding an
Agency employee with whom he has been in contact.
5. Mr. Houston advised that OGC had been
in touch with the Library of Congress on the inquiry which originated with
Representative Dante B. Fascell's (D. , Fla.) Subcommittee on Legal and
Monetary Affairs of the House Operations Committee. OGC has taken care
of this item and there is no further need for contact with the Congressman.
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and his Administrative Assistant, Lloyd Salvetti, visited the Agency for
approximately an hour and a half for a briefing by
of OCI, on Soviet leadership. See Memorandum for the Record.
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the office of Representative Ogden Reid (R. , N. Y.) for a briefing on the
Middle East. All went well. See Memorandum for the Record.
3. Arranged with Fran Voorde, Secretary
to Senator Birch Bayh, to pick the Senator up at 0730 on Monday, 14 July,
for an 8:00 breakfast at Headquarters with the Director. Miss Voorde said
the Senator would probably want a briefing on the 55-9, MIRV, etc.
4. Called Representative John C. Culver
(D., Iowa) to say I understood he had expressed to State Department officers
an interest in a Washington visitor from an Af rican. country, and that I would
be glad to come over and try to answer his questions. He said he appreciated
my call and asked that I make arrangements with his secretary, Miss Sosnick,
for an appointment next week.
5. Oneta Stockstill, on the staff of the Houses
Armed Services Committee called and said Chairman Rivers would like a
briefing on SS-9s sometime during the last week in July or the first week in
August. She asked if we would check the Director's schedule and let her know
when the Director might be available.
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Representative Robert Leggett (D, Calif. ), regarding the Congressman's
request for a briefing on SS-9s. 1, told him that the Agency had definite
guidelines from Chairman Rivers and did not normally provide individual
briefings. I added that,since the Chairman had expressed an interest in a
briefing of the full Committee on this subject, we had contacted him regarding
Leggett's request. The Chairman does not want the Agency to provide
individual briefings on this and suggested that Mr. Leggett receive his
briefing at an in-depth presentation before the full Committee in the near
future. KTonfeld discussed this further with Mr. Leggett and subsequently
advised that we could ignore Mr. Leggett's request, since he is taking it up
with the Chairman.
7. Advised Dean Pohlenz, on the staff of Senator
Roman L. Hruska (R. , Neb. ), -Last Senator Ervin had agreed to let the Director
appear before the Constitutional Rights Subcommittee in executive session
to explain the Agency's problems concerning S. 782. Pohlenz expressed
pleasure and surprise that Ervin had made this move. He said Senator Hruska
had talked with Senator Ervin about this and found Ervin "really dug in on this."
Pohlenz said that he gathered that if Ervin had his way he would completely
abolish the Agency. I told him this did not surprise me. In response to my
question, Pohlenz said Senator Hruska would be in town on the 22nd and expected
that the Senator would attend the hearings.
8. Contacted Senator Joseph Tydings' (D. , Md.) office
to arrange an appointment to see the Senator on a sensitive Agency personnel
matter. The Senator's staff will be in touch with me.
9. Dropped by the office of Representative
Glenard Liimb7R7aiJThnd found that he will be involved in committee
meetings for the next few days and left word that we had been by to see him.
10. Met with Mr. John R. Blandford, on the staff of the
House Armed Services Committee, and briefed him on the latest developments
in the Sino-Soviet situation, scheduled visit of Soviet warships to Cuba, and the
intensive air action in the Middle East.
In connection with a request from Representative Leggett for a briefing
on SS-9s, Blandford said that he had no specific date in mind for a briefing of
the full Armed Services Committee.
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7. James Kronfeld, Legislative Counsel
in the office of Representative Robert Leggett (D. , Calif. ), called regarding
the Congressman's letter requesting a briefing on SS-9s. I told Kronfeld
I was looking into this and would be in touch with him tomorrow.
8. Talked with Frank Slatinshek, on the
staff of the House Armed Services Committee, regarding Congressman
Leggett's request for a briefing on SS-9s. Slatinshek took this up with
Chairman Rivers and said the Chairman wanted to have a full briefing of
the House Armed Services Committee on this in the near future and suggested
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Tuesday - 1 July 1969
13. Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House
Appropriations Committee staff, who provided copies of the Committee
internal correspondence relating to a North Korean warfare training film
that ostensibly has been shown to some members of the Congress. Infor-
mation received from the Department oi Defense indicates that the film did
not come from the Department but may have been procured by a member
directly from the Korean Embassy. Mr. Michaels indicated that several
members of the Defense Subcommittee are interested in the matter and would
appreciate any light that we can shed on this.
14. Mr. Robert Michaels, House Appropriations
Committee staff, was briefed on the following items:
a. Soviet missile inventory and Agency review of inventory
estimates;
b. Soviet overtures to Western nations concerning recognition
of Communist China;
c. construction of additional Soviet space facility;
d. Soviet naval construction of three new fleet units;
e. contemplated Soviet space activities;
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g. indicators of Soviet concern over the Chinese problem.
15. Met with Mr. John R. Blandford, House Armed_.
Lszyis_es Committee staff, who requested a listing by types of fuel, whether
solid or liquid, of the various ICBM's in the Soviet inventory. I briefed
Mr. Blandford on the following itemi:
a.
b.
C.
Soviet concern over the Chinese problem;
possibility of the Soviet space launch;
testing and evaluation of land-
based IRBM's.
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Tuesday - 1 July 1969
16. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, House
Armed Services Committee, who asked whether we could provide any
=MT-information concerning a news report of a GE scientist who
was traveling through the Soviet Union and was hospitalized. in Bukhara,
Russia as a cholera suspect.
I briefed Mr. Slatinshek on the following items:
a. Soviet missile inventory and Agency review of inventory
estimates;
b. Soviet overtures to Western nations concerning recognition
of Communist China;
c. construction of additional Soviet space facility;
d. Soviet naval construction of three new fleet units;
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4. Representative Charles S. Gubser
(R., Calif.) called in connection with an invitation he had received from the
Pan Arcadian Federation of America to be a guest at the international
conference in Athens 17 August through 2 September to ask what we know of
the sponsors. I suggested he contact the FBI since a U.S. organization and
personalities were involved, but said we would be glad to relay any information
which would be helpful. In his absence he suggested we could talk with his
Administrative Assistant, Jean Gordon. Based on information supplied by
I informed Jean Gordon of the basic makeup
of these organizations and their political nature and suggested that the
Congressman might want to also touch base with Mr. Alfred Vigderman, in
State, in view, among other things, of the military equipment issue and
Mr. Gubser's position with the Services Committee.
5. In response to her earlier call, spoke
with Darlene Booher, in the office of Senator George Murphy (R., Calif.),
concerning the personnel application of and advised her that 25X1
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advise the Senator by letter of the outcome. This was completely satisfactory
to Miss Booher.
6. Met with Mr. Arthur Kuhl, Chief Clerk, and
later with Miss Varney Porter, Transcript Editor, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee, and transcribed the Agency's security deletions of the Director's
testimony of 23 June which were prepared by Mr. Bruce Clarke, OSR/DDI.
Miss Porter agreed that she would call me when the final edited copy was
ready for publication so that the Agency might have a last-minute quick review
prior to printing. It is expected that the edited copy will be ready sometime
mid-week June 30.
7. The four copies of the DCl/Laird testimony
of 23 June before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee were forwarded
to the Committee for their use during the day and returned to the Agency
for safekeeping. They will be returned to the Committee again on Monday.
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6. Talked briefly to Mrs. Dorothy
Winchester, Senate Appropriations Committee staff, who advised that
Mr. Woodruff, Committee Counsel, expects to be released from the
hospital Thursday afternoon and will be going home for a period of rest.
Administrative Assistant to Representative Philip Philbin (D., Mass.),
and delivered an interim response concerning the employment interview
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Philbin is very interested in the case but apparently only in terms of
arranging appropriate interviews.
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a. Soviet construction of naval combat vessels;
b. expansion of Soviet missile facility;
c. Soviet ICBM's;
d. Soviet conversations with Western governments
concerning recognition of Communist China.
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Subcommittee staff, called to ask ii we could provide him with a full text of
the proceedings of the recent Moscow Communist Party Conference. I said
I would see what is available and let him know.
3. Called Lloyd Salvetti, Administrative Assistant
to Representative Hastings Keith (R., Mass.), and confirmed that we would not
be able to brief the Congressman on ABM and related matters but would be glad
to talk with him about the Soviet leadership situation. Salvetti said he would
try to set this up for early next week and will call to confirm the date. He
suggested that Mr. Keith might like to visit Headquarters for the briefing, and
I said he would be most welcome.
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Delivered to Mr. Harry Cromer,
House Foreign
Affairs Subcommittee
on Asian and Pacific Affairs staff,
in response to a request from Chairman Murphy, the following charts:
CPSU Pilot Bureau dated 10 April 1968, CPSU Central Committee dated
6 June 1968, and organization of USSR Council. of Ministers dated 1 June
1968. Mr.
response to
Cromer expressed
his request.
the Chairman's appreciation for the prompt
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staff,
and briefed
him on the Sino-Soviet situation.
Met with Mr. John Martiny, Counsel,
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House Post Office and Civil Service Committee, who advised that the postal
reform hearings will probably consume the energies of the full Committee
through July, leaving little time for Committee or Subcommittee considera-
tion of other legislation. Mr. Martiny noted that the Daniels Bill (H. R. 9825)
with some amendment on the floor of the House with regard to the 1 per cent
cost of living increase, sick leave conversion, and possible increase in cost
for members of the Legislature, will have reasonable chance of getting
through the House this year. At least at the present time he does not feel
confident of passage by the Senate during this session. He also noted that
Representative Udall's (D. , Ariz. ) bill (H. R. 11750) which was submitted
this week includes authority for a permanent civil service salary wage
adjustment commission and a 5 per cent increase in GS salary schedules
over the July increase and probably has little chance for success during the
session..
4. In response to a request from Mrs. Mary
McLaughlin, Senate Foreign Relations Committee staff, the transcript of
the Director's testimony of 23 April before the Gore Subcommittee on
international Organization and Disarmament Affairs was forwarded to the
Committee for their use during the day and returned to the Agency for safe-
keeping. The Committee has also requested the transcript be forwarded
for their use again on Monday.
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Assistant Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee,
and briefed him on the Soviet-Chinese military activities in the
Far East.
7. Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House
Appropriations Committee staff, and briefed him on the Soviet-Chinese
military activities in the Far East.
8. In response to a request from
Mrs. Lena Reed, in the office of Representative Philip Phabin (D.,
Mass.), set up an appointment for employment interview for
for 11 a.m. on
will be interviewed by
Dffice of Personnel, in the Ames Building.
Thursday. 12 June. I
9. George Murphy on the staff of the
Joint Committee on Atomic En.ergy,called to query us as to just what
NIPPs were. I explained to Murphy that this was an abbreviation for
documents entitled "National Intelligence Projections for Planning" and
mentioned in passing the reference to NIPPs in John Finn9'y's .article of
1 June. Murphy said these had been called to his attention by Mr.
Schwiller, of the Joint Committee staff. Murphy is interested in knowing
if they are CIA documents as such or merely working papers. He is
interested in any of these studies which might have to do with offensive
and defensive weapons.
10. David Martin, on the staff of Senator
Thomas Dodd (D. , Conn.), called and said that they were sending us a
letter and a clipping which indicated a conspiracy was taking place between
the Soviet Union and FFance with regard to Israel. Martin said that
according to the article the United States was not privy to this but might
be backed into a corner as a result of the situation. Martin was merely
alerting me to this--adding that they would like any assistance which we
could give to the Senator on this.
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2. Per the Director's instructions, called on
Representative Leslie Arends (R. , Ill. )to clarify the Agency's position on
certain current controversial issues (see Memorandum for the Record).
3.
Services Committee:
Met with Frank Slatinshek, Counsel, House Armed
a. In response to my question, Slatinshek said he was quite happy
to take up the question of the Agency budget, about which he had recently
inquired, with Robert Michaels, House Appropriations Committee staff.
Slatinshek said that his interest arose from the fact that Chairman Pike, of
tha_Saal____Dcommg. AtLngihe Pueblo, had learned that NBC was preparing
a feature TV program on the Pueblo which, among other things, raised
questions about the scope and excessive cost of U.S. intelligence activities.
Slatinshek said that Pike and other members of the Armed Services Committee
were not particularly concerned about CIA in this regard, but were concerned
about the amounts being spent by DIA and NSA.
b. I asked Slatinshek if he was aware of any criticism within the
Armed Services Committee regarding the Agency's role in current controver-
sial matters Slatinshek said he had heard no
such criticism,that the Agency Subcommittee had apparently been quite satisfied
with the Director's recent briefing, and that those in a position to know probably
recognize the fact that any differences between DOD and the Agency in assess-
ment of the Soviet threat were differences in emphasis'rath'ex than in lbasic
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Representative Nick Galifianakis (D,, N. C.), to close out her inquiry of
yesterday on visuals of the Montagnards. Based upon information supplied
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Aide to Senator Claiborne Pell (D., R. I.), called on behalf of an individual
seeking summer employment. He seemed to fully appreciate the impractica-
bility of short employment where security clearances are required and the
Agency's overall policy on sources for summer employment.
6 Spoke with Edna Johnson, House
Armed Services Committee staff, who explained the reasons why the
Committee could not be too helpful in running down possible executive
session testimony before its predecessors during the 1940's.
OTR, agreed that under the circumstances we would not pursue further
efforts to locate the record of General William J. Donovan's briefing of
'congressional groups in executive session during August of 1940.
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Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, and briefed him on the
following items:
a. Soviet ABM intercept testing
b. Communist summer campaign in Vietnam
c. meeting of President Kekkonen of Finland
and Premier Kosygin of Russia
d.
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in South Vietnam
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5. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, House
Armed Services Committee staff, in response to his question con-
cerning the Agency's budget and intelligence community expenditures
and suggested that he contact Mr. Robert Michaels, House Appropria-
tions Defense Subcommittee staff, on this matter. I advised that
Mr. Maury has talked to Mr. Michaels who will be pleased to discuss
the matter further with Mr. Slatinshek at his pleasure. Mr. Slatinshek
expressed his appreciation and noted that he will need to ascertain
Chairman Rivers' desires before proceeding further with the Subcommittee
on this matter.
Briefed Mr. Slatinshek on the Communist military aims in
South Vietnam.
6. Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House
Appropriations Defense Subcommittee staff, and advised him that I
had talked to Mr, Frank Slatinshek, House Armed Services Corn-
mittee staff, since Mr. Michaels' earlier conversation with Mr. Maury
and that Mr. Slatinshek would be calling him, Mr. Michaels, to discuss
intelligence costs. Mr. Michaels noted that he had worked many times
in the past with Mr. Slatinshek and foresaw little problem in dealing with
him on this matter. He raised the personal question as to whether
Chairman Rivers, House Armed Services Committee, would be interested
in pursuing the question at this time.
Also briefed Mr. Michaels on the Communist military aims in
South Vietnam.
7. Met with Mr. Jack Matteson, House
Government Information and Foreign Operations Subcommittee staff,
and discussed with him a complaint received by the Subcommittee con-
cerning classification of an item appearing in the Technical Abstract
Bulletin published by the Defense Documentation Center, Defense Supply
Agency. It was reported that the item was classified by the Central
Intelligence Agency. After some discussion it was suggested that due to
Chairman Moss' strong personal interest in classification of foreign docu-
ments a meeting be scheduled for Mr. Maury with the Chairman after the
Chairman's return to the city (see Memorandum for the Record).
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8. Mr. Alton Frye, Legislative Assistant to Senator
Edward Brooke (R., Mass.), called to say that, under the Senator's direction,
he was working on a report of the Subcommittee on Research and Development
of Senate Armed Services Committee (which Mr. Duckett briefed on 17 March 1969
re Soviet R&D). Mr. Frye said he wished to get up-to-date on the recent
Pacific testing (the SS-9, the MRV) and also the ABM.
Because of the existing policy against briefing staff employees of
individual senators on controversial and sensitive issues, I checked separately
with Colonel Harper, Professional Staff Member, Senate Preparedness Sub-
committee; Mr. Edward Braswell, Chief of Staff, Senate Armed Services
Committee; and James T. Kendall, Chief Counsel, Senate Preparedness Sub-
committee. Colonel Harper confirmed that Frye had Top Secret clearance
but felt the question should be cleared with Mr. Braswell and possibly Senator
Stennis. Braswell said he could not approve the briefing of Frye, particularly
in view of the fact that this apparently was a personal request on behalf of
Senator Brooke and therefore not within the framework of the Committee-Agency
relationship.
Kendall agreed that we might be setting an unfortunate precedent by
briefing Frye but thought we should of course offer to brief Senator Brooke
himself.
I called Frye back and explained that in view of the existing ground rules
limiting sensitive briefings only to members and committee staff members, I
did not see how we could accede to his request. Frye said he recognized there
was a problem, but could not see any logic in existing policies of discrimination
against staff members with full security clearances especially when they were
eligible for briefings by DOD. He said he thought Senator Brooke would want
to pursue the problem further and we would see where we came out. (Frye's
manner was entirely friendly throughout, but he indicated that he did not
consider the matter closed.)
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said he would be glad to discuss the subject with Slatinshek and suggested we
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Met with Chairman Rivers and with
Representatives
Melvin Price
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Charles Gubser (R., Calif.), and William Bray (R., Ind.) as a
followup to the CIA Subcommittee
meeting of the House Armed Services
Committee on 27 May and discussed
with them the staff Counsel's
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10. Spoke with Representative Otis
G. Pike (D., N.Y. ), in followup on an inquiry on his behalf by Mrs. Woolbert,
his Administrative Assistant, and helped him locate a Ho Chi Minh speech
in the 22 May FBIS Far East Daily Report. Mr. Pike thanked us for the
help and commented that he was an. "avid reader" of the FBIS reports he
receives.
11. Mr. Montgomery K. Winkler, Adminis-
trative Assistant to Representative Charles M. Teague (R., Calif.), called
to ask if we would stop by to discuss a letter which he said was sensitive.
I told him someone would come up to see him tomorrow.
12. Miss Peggy Rapking, in the office of Senator
Howard Baker, called and asked if the time of the briefing for the Senator
on 4 June could be changed from 10:00 to 9:00 A. M. This was confirmed.
13. Per a call from the Director's office, arranged
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the Gore Subcommittee.
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
28 May 1969
SUBJECT: Followup re House Armed Services Committee
Members' Office Safes
1. As a followub to the CIA Subcommittee meeting of yester-
day, I accompanied Office of Security, who
changed the safe combinations of the cabinet safes in the offices of
Chairman Rivers and Representative Melvin Price (D . ,Ill.).
2. Arrangements were made with Representatives Leslie C.
Arends (R., Ill.) and Charles S. Gubser (R., Calif.) to meet with
them during the morning tomorrow, 29 May, and change the com-
binations of their personal office safes. Representative William G.
Bray (R., Ind.) advised that at such time as he might have classified
information in his office he will request our services in changing the
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By JAMES RESTON
It is almost impossible to
pick: up a copy of The Congres-
sional Record these days with-
out reading seine thumping
criticism of the power and
stewardship of the Pentagon.
For, over a generation, the
soldier-statesmen of the Eisen-
bower-Marshall-MacArthur era,
backed enthusiastically by Sen-
ator Richard Russell of Georgia,
Representative Mendel Rivers
of South Carolina and other key
members of the Armed Services
and Appropriations Committees,
have held the balance of power
over the State Department and
the Foreign Relations end For-
eign Affairs Committees, but
the 'balance is now changing,
and the reasons are fairly clear.
The Changing Generations
The bitter conflict of ideology
and national strategic interests
between MOSCOW and Peking
has forced the. Soviet leaders
to temper their cold war propa-
ganda against the West. The tri-
umphant and spectacular Amer-
ican military figures of the last
world war, have been replaced '
by a new generation of military
technicians whose names and
faces are unfamiliar and whose
military problems and achieve-
The Decline of the Pentagon
rnents have been almost too
complicated for popular acclaim.
Besides, not only the joint
Chiefs of Staff but their most
powerful backers on Capitol
Hill have declined in power.
Senator Russell has been griev-
ously ill, and Mendel Rivers has
been spectacularly silly and
self-indulgent. It is significant
that Representative George H.
Mahon of Texas, chairman of
the powerful House Appropria-
tions Committee, who used to
go along, has recently caught
the drift and begun to question
the omnipotence of ,the Penta-
gon and its leaders.
The Changing Mood
The increasingly critical tone
in Congress, however, is more
than a switch of personal judg-
ment. It isa, reflection of chang-
ing moods, judgments and pri-
orities in the country.
So long as the physical men-
ace of the Soviet Union seemed
to threaten the security of the
nation, the Pentagon could get
almost any amount of money
it liked from the Congress. In
fact, it asked for so much that
the defense budget itser be-
came almost incomprehensible,
not only to the Congress, but
to most of the leaders in the
Pentagon itself.
The Congress however, pays
attention to the mood of the
country, which decides who
gets elected, and the mood has
changed. The main threat to the
security of the union now seems
to lie in the conflicts and divi-
sions at home, and these con-
flicts and visions--whidh now
require vast appropriations?
are traceable in part, at least,
to popular reaction against Viet-
nam, and before that, Cuba.
This is unfair to the military
in a way. The responsibility for
the tragedies of Cuba and Viet-
nam lie primarily with the civil
Ian leaders of the Government
?with Presidents Kennedy and
Johnson, and Secretaries Rusk
and McNamara, who accepted
the doctrine of power, then cut
the power in half or even more.
Still, for whatever reason,
the dominant influence of the
Pentagon and its policies and.
its budget are now being ques-
tioned, and this is clearly over-
due. Aside from the question of
the Pentagon's judgment, which
is suspect, the question of its
waste is appalling.
Thus a subcommittee of the
two houses of Congress has
now issued a savage report,i,
condemning the "wasteful, in-
efficient practices" of the
Pentagon, and questioning its.
judgment on useless weapons
systems which have cost many
billions of dollars.
The Critical Spirit
The critical spirit toward the
Pentagon is now being directed
not only against its procure-
ment procedures, its cost con-
trols and its strategic Judg-
ments, but even against its
tactics on the Vietnam battle-
field.
This is the way it used to be ,
before the last war, when the
military had to go to Capitol,
Hill in fear and trepidation.:
Even when the Pentagon was.
built, Congress had to be con- ,
vinced before voting the funds
that the big five-ringed struc-
ture could be turned into a
hospital. The reaction against
the post-war military domina-
tion has clearly not gone back
to that point, but the reaction
has set in. At least the Penta-
gon is being questioned severe-,
ly now, and that is something
new in the last few months.
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5. In response to his call, talked with
Mr. R. E. Dunne, Assistant Counsel, Senate Permanent Investiga-
tions Subcommittee, who requested Agency advice concerning a
believes that
The Committee
may have been associated with the Agency
and if so would appreciate authorization to question him con-
cerning certain activities during the period of his residence in
Mr. Dunne advised that the current investigation by Senator
Abraham Ribicoff (D., Conn.) is a completely open one and that Agency
representatives could well be present if desired during the questioning.
I advised Mr. Dunne that I would relay the Committee's request and be
back in touch with him.
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cEA Subcommittee of the House Armed Services Committee. See Memo
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Tuesday - 27 May 1969
1. Met with Bill Woodruff, on the staff of the
Senate Appropriations Committee, and briefed him on conditions which
Governor Rockefeller may encounter during his trip through Latin
America. Mr. Woodruff mentioned in passing that Senator Ellender
apparently would be unable to attend the Defense Appropriations briefing
scheduled for the 3rd of June but Woodruff doesn't anticipate that Senator
Russell will postpone the briefing on this account.
2.
of Senator Henry M. Jackson (D. , Wash.), at hip! reauest. Corcoran asked
if we would be willing to have someone talk withl
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and the discussion concerning House Armed Services Committee
members' office safes, met with Chairman Rivers, Mrs. Oneta Stockstill,
Executive Secretary of the Committee, and Representatives Charles
Bennett (D., Fla.) and 0. C. Fisher (D., Texas). Other members
were not available during the afternoon. (See Memorandum for the
Record.)
4.
Mitchell, in the o ice o ena or
suggested reply to a constituent,
Furnished to Mrs. Carol
ert Griffin (R., Mich.), a
who had
inquired about the Agency's budget. Mrs. Mitchell said the draft
reply would solve their problems nicely.
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Meeting with Mrs. Oneta Stockstill, Executive
Secretary, re House Armed Services
Committee Members' Office Safes
1. In response to a request from John R. Blandford to contact
Mrs. Oneta Stockstill, Executive Secretary, House Armed Services
Committee, I met with Mrs. Stockstill and learned from her that the
Chairman and others would need to have the combinations changed on
their personal safes. Mrs. Stockstill also advised that the matter
had been discussed with the Director in this morning's meeting of the
CIA Subcommittee.
2. Mrs. Stockstill advised that she had learned the afternoon
before from the building custodian that the safe combinations of the
cabinet safes in the individual members' offices and in the Committee
staff room are held by the custodian of the building. In addition, the
senior custodian, a few offices away, holds the combinations of all
member cabinet safes for the three House office buildings. She had
satisfied herself that somewhere between 12 and 20 people have access
to safe combinations and that none apparently are security cleared.
3. During the day the combination of the cabinet safe in the
main staff room, 2118, Rayburn House Office Building, was changed.
An appointment was made with Chairman Rivers to change the combina-
tion on his safe tomorrow morning. Tentative arrangements were made
to change combinations for Representatives Philip Philbin (D., Mass.)
and Melvin Price (D., Ill.). Other members of the CIA Subcommittee
will be contacted during the day tomorrow.
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4. In meeting with Representative Charles Bennett (D., Fla.)
he advised that he keeps no classified material in the office and that
should anyone gain access to his safe they would find only personal
documents and knickknacks. In consequence, he did not desire to
change the combination. In meeting with Representative 0. C.
Fisher (D., Texas) it was learned that although he appreciated the
staff's concern there had been some difficulty in memorizing the
safe combination in his office and in consequence he did not desire
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Monday - 26 May 1969
1. Received a call from Colonel Ben Outlaw,
Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Legislation, who
advised that the Secretary is in receipt of a request from a member
of the House Committee on Science and Astronautics for a detailed
briefing on American capabilities and research and development on
overhead reconnaissance type activities. Colonel Outlaw wanted to
verify that Chairman Miller had received briefings from the Agency
involving this level of security sensitivity and that Mr. Ducander and
others of the Committee staff hold proper security clearances. The
present intention is to meet with Chairman Miller and Mr. Ducander
on the question. No Agency involvement is foreseen.
2. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, House
Armed Services Committee staff, and confirmed with him the
arrangements for the Director's briefing of the CIA Subcommittee
on Tuesday, 27 May, at 9:00 a.m. , room 2212, Rayburn House Office
Building. Mr. Slatinshek advised that the Chairman plans to leave
the city about noon. Also briefed Mr. Slatinshek on the following items:
a. Sino-Soviet border clash
b. Soviet extended range tests for the SS-9 MRV
3. Met with Mr. Robert L. Michaels, House
Appropriations Committee staff, who advised that Representative
Glenard Lipscomb (R., Calif.) has not returned the receipt for the
budget book that was delivered for his use. Mr. Michaels advised that
no further mention has been made for scheduling the CIA Subcommittee
briefing. I briefed Mr. Michaels on the following items:
a. Sino-Soviet border clash
b. Soviet extended range tests for the SS-9 MRV
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Friday - 23 May 1969
1. Mr. Charles Lombard, Professional Staff
Member, Senate Republican Policy Committee, called to request our assistance
in helping them compile a short unclassified glossary of terms relating to
ABM, such as those used in a comprehensive story in Newsweek or Time.
He said this glossary, which is being prepared for use of the membership,
would be needed by Tuesday. Through the cooperation of several Agency
offices we are attempting to locate a suitable glossary that has already been
published by the press.
2. Called David Muchow, BOB, to learn
if there were any substantive changes in the Foreign Military Sales Act other
than those appearing in the material sent to the Agency for comment and
learned there were not.
3. Stopped by the office of Russ Blandford,
House Armed Services Committee staff, to ask if he had any last minute
suggestions for our upcoming (27 May) briefing of the Agency Subcommittee
beyond what he had already explained to General Cushman. Blandford said
he had nothing to add. I asked if he thought there were any problems we
should talk about in terms of our liaison or whether he wanted to be briefed
on any current items. He said he was quite satisfied with the liaison situation
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and I discussed with Assistant Secretary
of State for
Congressional Relations William
Macomber and later with Carl
Marcy, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
staff, the assignment of
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this had nothing
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9. Met briefly with Frank Matchett,
House Manpower and Civil Service Subcommittee staff, who advised that
Chairman Henderson's draft bill on constitutional rights of Govern-
ment employees has not been scheduled as yet for introduction to the
House. He noted that the Chairman in all probability will be meeting
with Senator Ervin (D., N. C.) again before such introduction would
take place. He also noted that interest in the bill and demands for
action on the Ervin bill have cooled considerably. The unions are
starting to press with some vigor for a new wage board bill and a new
labor information bill.
10. Met with Mr. J. R. Blandford, Chief
Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, who advised that he had
had a fine visit with General Cushman yesterday and is looking forward
to the General's introduction to the CIA Subcommittee on Tuesday. I
reviewed with Mr. Blandford the contemplated surfacing of a former
and briefed him on the following items:
a. Sino-Soviet clash on the Kazakhstan-Sinkiang
border
b. 21 May Soviet extended range SS-9 MRV tests
11. At his request, met with Mr. Vincent
Augliere, Staff Director, Moss Government Information and Foreign
Operations Subcommittee, concerning who had
met with Committee representatives during the week. (See memorandum
for the record.)
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Counsel Page 2
Received from Mary McLaughlin, on the staff of
Committee, a copy of a draft speech entitled
the ABM" for security review by the Agency.
5.
the Senate
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Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, on the staff of
the House
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c. Chinese
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him on this item.
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Disarmament Affairs of 23 April was forwarded to the Committee for their use
and was returned at the end of the day to the Agency for safekeeping. This
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Tuesday - 20 May 1969
5. Met with Mr. Peter A. Gerardi, on the staff
of the House Committee on Science and Astronautics, who is leaving the staff
at the end of the month. After reviewing his clearances with him, a termination
secrecy agreement was executed. Mr. Gerardi is returning to private industry.
6. Met with J. R. Blandford, on the staff of the House
Committee on Armed Services and briefed him on the following items:
a.
b.
c. Chinese missile activities.
new Soviet Pacific extended range tests;
7.
Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, on the staff of the
...119,32,_.se_aommittee on Armed Service, and briefed him on the following items:
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Chinese missile activities.
Bulgarian-Soviet ASW training maneuvers in
the Mediterranean;
Soviet SS-9 construction;
Soviet Foxbat interceptor production;
Soviet ground force division strength in
western USSR;
Soviet naval presence in the Indian Ocean.
8. The transcript of the Director's testimony before
the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on International Organization and
Disarmament Affairs of 23 April was forwarded to the Committee for their use
and was returned at the end of the day. At the close of business, Mary McLaug25X1L
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: General Cushman's Conversation with Russ Blandford,
Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee
General Cushman told me this morning he had had a recent conversation
with Mr. Blandford who had complained that we had not been keeping the
Committee adequately briefed and that he thought we should give "top level"
attention to this problem. General Cushman drew the inference that Blandford
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12. Met with Mr. J. R. Blandford, House Armed
Services Committee, and briefed him on the following items:
a. Bulgarian-Soviet ASW training maneuvers in the
Mediterranean.
b. Soviet SS-9 construction.
c. Soviet Foxbat interceptor production.
d. Soviet ground force division strength in western?
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e. Soviet naval presence in the Indian Ocean.
-. Mr. Blandford noted in passing that the Chairman appears quite
relaxed about the editorkal treatment he received in the Washington Post today.
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House Appropriations Committee, who advised that although the Chairman has
mentioned a meeting of the CIA Subcommittee, he has not determined a date for
such meeting. I briefed Mr. Michaels on the following items.
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b. Soviet Ss-9 construction.
c. Soviet Foxbat interceptor production.
d. Soviet ground force division strength in western
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During a visit to Cape Kennedy today for the Apollo X launch,
a. Told Chairman L. Mendel Rivers, House Armed Services
Committee, that I would like to talk with him briefly to get clarification on
what he wished us to cover .during our ? ? ? br f'n? of the CIA
Subcommittee. He said he would get in touch with me after his return to
Washington on 19 May 1969.
b. Senator Allott, of the Senate Appropriations Committee,
said he personally favored an early Agency briefing of the full Committee
but in view of their present calendar he thought it would be some time before
they could get around to it.
c. I talked with Chairman William T. Murphy, Far East
Subcommittee of House Foreign Affairs Committee, who said he would like
an early Agency briefing on the internal situation in Communist China. I
suggested he take this up with Chairman Morgan, of the full Committee,
but said we would be glad to cooperate.
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Thursday - 15 May 1969
1, Called Bill Woodruff, Senate Appropriations
Committee staff, and summarized for him the Director's conversation with
Senator Russell yesterday. See Memo for Record for details.
2. Senator George Murphy (R., Calif.) visited
the Agency today for lunch and a briefing given by the Director. Also present
were Messrs. Duc-kett, Karamessines, Proctor, Carver and Maury.
See Memo for the Record for details.
3. Visited the office of Chairman L. Mendel
Rivers, House Armed Services Committee, and talked with his Secretary,
Mrs. Bull, about a meeting with Mr. Rivers to get his desires regarding our
upcoming (27 May) briefing of the CIA Subcommittee. Mrs. Bull said that
Mr. Rivers would be out of town until early next week, but would be at Cape
Kennedy over the weekend and suggested I try to discuss the problem with
him there. Otherwise, she said I should contact her early Monday, 19 May.
4. Mrs. Ziebarth, in the office of Representative
Henry Schadeberg (R., Wis.), called on behalf of a constituent, 25X1
who said he had written to the Agency in March asking for employment
application forms but had heard nothing. I told her I would check into it and
be back in touch, and in any event we would send the application form out
immediately.
S. James Lowenstein, on the staff of the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee, called and said he has a problem with our answer
to one of the questions posed during the Director's appearances before Senator
Gore's Subcommittee. The answer concerning Lowenstein has to do with the
concentration of the population in t.- .n. he Soviet Union. After talking
with Mr. Bruce Clarke, OSR, and of his staff, I attempted to 25X1
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that we submit a corrected response to this question. We will work with OSR
on this.
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1, Thad Murray, in the office of Senator
William B. Spong, requested information concerning the employment turn-down
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alleged in correspondence with Senator bpong that he had been turnea aown by
NSA because "he had not received security clearances" and felt that the later
turn down by CIA in early 1967 was related to the failure of 'security clearance
After checking with the Office of Security, I advised Mr. Murray that
ad been one of many applicants for a professional position and
t at e a. .een paired against others of superior qualifications. Informally
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FBIS materials on the
Delivered to Dorothy Fosdick a collection of
reaction of Communist Parties in Japan, New Zealand,
Mexico and Monaco to the intervention of the Soviets in Czechoslovakia.
3. Met with Mr. James Wilson, House Science and
Astronautics Committee staff, and briefed him on a possible Soviet space
event later this month. Wilson advised that members of the Committee and
some staff members would be travelling to Cape Kennedy this weekend but
it was not at all certain yet who would be going.
4. Mary McLaughlin, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee staff, called and requested that Miss Judith Fleischhacker be
included in the list of persons on the Committee staff who can receive Committee
transcripts from Agency couriers.
5. Oneta Stockstill, House Armed Services Com-
mittee staff, called and asked if the Director could brief the CIA Subcommittee
on 27 May 1969 at 9:00 a. m. After checking with the Director, Miss Stockstill
was advised that this time was confirmed.
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6. Talked with Russ Blandford, ,I-louse Armed Services
flom-mittee staff, who advised that it is not certain at this time what the full
Committee schedule will be on Tuesday, 27 May following the Agency meeting.
In consequence, the length of time available for. our meeting is not certain.
See Memo for the Record for details.
7. The transcript of the Director's testimony
before the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on International Organiza-
tion and Disarmament Affairs of 23 April was forwarded to the Committee for
their use and was returned at the end of the day.
8. Talked to Mrs. Woods, in the office of Senator
Gaylord Nelson (D. , Wis.), concerning a letter from a constituent,
inquiring if the Agency were investigating her brother-in-law. I
Woods that we had checked carefully and that the Agency has no record
of brother-in-law and is not investigating him. Mrs. Woods
said she would reply tcl along these lines.
told Mrs.
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25X1 cgmmittee on Preparedness Investigation, called to express interest in the case
of an employee whose retirement from the Agency
is contemplated in the near Iuture. According to Gilleas, who is25X1
being pressed to retire immediately, would like to be able to stay on with the
Agency until he reaches age 62. Gilleas explained some extenuating circum-
stances in the case which he felt were worthy of consideration. He asked if I
would look into the case, which he understands is presently being considered
25X1 I told him I would be glad to do so. I subsequently talked to
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he will advise me of the result.
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on a loan basis, a copy ot the executive session testimony of DOD witnesses
before the Committee in morning and afternoon sessions on 13 May on Military
Procurement for FY 1970. These were obtained in order to review the exchanges
between Senator Stuart Symington (D. ,Mo.) and Dr. John Foster, DDR&E, with
regard to Agency responses to the 20 questions submitted to the Director at the
time of his briefing of Senator Gore's Subcommittee on International Organization
and Disarmament Affairs of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. The
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Conversation with Mr. J. R. Blandford, House Armed
Services Committee Staff re 27 May 1969 Briefing
I. Talked to Mr. Blandford concerning the topics or material
to be covered in the Director's briefing of 27 May. Mr. Blandford
advised that in his opinion the Subcommittee members do not want to
hear the same things that they are able to read in current news publi-
cations but rather should be given material that is not available to them
from other sources. Yr. Blandford noted that lack of information as to
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not impressive from t e u.commi ee 9 po e even noted
somewhat intemperately that a men oer had suggested that possibly the
Agency should be put under DIA.
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9:00 a.m., it would appear the Director will have at beet three hours
but possibly as little as one blur for briefing the Subcommittee.
Although Blandford's remarks were somewhat intemperate, they appeared
to be related to the general mood of the Subcommittee and Subcommittee
members this morning. It is recommended that consideration be given
to briefing on items of some sensitivity that would be of specific interest
to the Subcommittee at this time.
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Z. Called on Representative William G. Bray
and discussed briefly with him the Soviet leadership situation, mentioning
the fact that we had no evidence that the recent deaths of a number of Soviet
general officers were attributable to a purge of the military.
4. Miss Sheelagh Perry, in the
sentative Jonathan Bingham (D., N. Y.), called and requested
speech by Lin-Piao. I arranged with
to the Congressman and so informed Miss Perry.
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11. Per the Director's instructions, called
Mrs. Sheer, in the office of Senator Jacob K. Javits, and explained that we
could not respond to her request for a copy of the Director's Hot Springs talk
to the Business Council because it was strictly unofficial and off-the-record.
I said in fact the only salient points were those already noted, reasonably
accurately, in the press, and the bulk of the talk was merely an historical
review of how some of the issues of today had developed over the years. She
said she would report this to the Senator.
12 The transcript of the Director's testimony
before the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on International Organization
and Disarmament Affairs of 23 April was forwarded to the Committee for their
use and was returned at the end of the day. Later in the afternoon Mrs.
McLaughlin called and requested that the transcript be returned tomorrow,
13 May, for Committee use.
13. Met with J. R. Blandford, Chief Counsel, ;---louse.
Armed Services Committee, in response to his request and briefed him on
certai weapons systems. I also briefed Mr. Blandford on the Soviet
SL-12 booster, Soviet consideration of the Non-Proliferation Treaty, General
Yepishev's article in Kommunist and recent deaths of Soviet general officers.
14. Met with Mr. Wilson, House Science and Astro-
nautical Committee, and briefed him on the SL-12 booster.
the House Appropriations Committee, and delivered to him two copies of the
budget book. Mr. Michaels indicated that he and Represenative Glenard
Lipscomb (R. ,.Calif.) hoped to put as much time as possible on the book before
the next Subcommittee meeting with the Director. I also briefed Mr. Michaels
25X1 on weapons programs, Soviet SL-12 booster, Soviet consideration
of the Non-Proliferation Treaty, General Yepishev's article in Kommunist, and
recent deaths of Soviet general officers.
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Friday - 9 May 1969
5. Met with Robert Michaels, House Appropriations
Committee staff, who advised that the Committee schedule is such that he
is unable to forecast when the Chairman will want to meet on the Agency
budget. In consequence he requested that the budget book be made available
for his review with Representative Lipscomb and suggested he would like to
receive the book Monday afternoon. Michaels does not foresee a meeting
with the Committee however during the next ten days or so.
Mr. Michaels was briefed on the following items:
a.
b.
c.
d.
e.
f.
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Fatah activities
Launching of a new Soviet submarine
New Soviet attack submarine
Soviet May Day parade
Soviet missile deployments
Soviet first quarter industrial growth
Soviet-ChiCom Damansky Island encounter
Soviet air defenses on Sino-Soviet border
A Soviet aerodynamic vehicle
Israeli-Egyptian Suez area problem
6. Met with Mr. Russ Blandford, House Armed Services,
Committee.staff, who advised that although the members of the CIA Subcommittee
appear interested in a meeting with the Director, the Chairman has given no
indication of when he might schedule such a meeting. I suggested to Blandford
that it would be helpful if he could provide as much notice as possible on the
hearing because of the Director's continuing heavy schedule. He indicated he
would. Blandford also requested advice for the Chairman on the press reports
I advised I would relay his
request and be back in touch on Monday.
Mr. Blandford was briefed on the following items:
a.
b.
c.
d.
e.
f.
g.
h.
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New Soviet attack submarine
Soviet May Day parade
Soviet missile deployments
Soviet first quarter industrial growth
Soviet- ChiCom Damansky Island encounter
Soviet air defenses on Sino-Soviet border
A Soviet aerodynamic vehicle
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6. Hand carried to Dorothy Fosdick, Staff
Director of the Senate Subcommittee on National Security and International
Operations, the raw copy of the translation of the Yepishev article which
appeared in a recent issue of Kommunist. The other item which 'she
requested from this magazine will be forwarded to her tomorrow.
7. Miss Nancy Lee, in the office of Senator 25X1
Warren G. Magnuson (D., Wash. ), ca led on behalf of a constituent interested
in locating the relatives of a deceased Agency employee,
Personnel, is pulling the file from Archives.
8. Based on the advice of
Personnel, called Mrs. Noll, in the office of Representative Fred B. Rooney
(D.. Pa.), and advised that we would have a definite answer on the application
of about two weeks Mrs. Noll thanked us for keeping her
a line immediately.
informed and said she would dror
9. Miss Fry, in the office of Representative
Robert Mollohan (]D., W.Va.), called concerning the application of
and it was agreed that we would keep Mr. Mollohan advised of
the status ot the application by letter.
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newly assigned to the CIA Subcommittee of House Armed Services, who will
press Chairman Rivers for an early Agency briefing of the Subcommittee. He
expressed particular interest in Soviet submarine developments.
11. The transcript of the Director's testimony before
the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on International Organization ,and
Disarmament Affairs of 23 April 1969 was forwarded to the Committee for their
use and was returned at the end of the day. During the day, the Director's
response to the series of questions posed by Chairman Gore in the hearings
was forwarded to the Committee for inclusion in the transcript. The questions
and answers were returned with the transcript at the close of the day.
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12. Met with Mrs. Gertrude King, in the office
of Representative Tho Mor an and reviewed briefly with her corres-
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Alfred Cromarty called and advised that
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for the Army's use in replying to questions posed by the House Armed Services
Investigating Subcommittee concerning procurement of 25)(1
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Army before the end of the week.
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11. Received a call from Colonel Roy Steele,
Chief, Committee Investigations Staff, Office of Legislative Liaison, Depart-
ment of the Army. Colonel Steele advised that a draft response to the
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procurement of equipment has been prepared. After some
discussion, I suggested that the response be coordinated with our Agency
procurement office so that a single reply could go back at this time to House
Armed Services Committee.
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with Office of Logistics.
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Lipscomb an updated version of an unclassified paper entitled " The Military
Posture of the Soviet Union. IT Representative Lipscomb was most appreciative.
13. Met with Mr. Ed Hugler, House Post Office
and Civil Service Manpower Subcommittee staff, and reviewed with him
portions of the draft bill prepared for submission to the House by Chairman
Henderson regarding constitutional rights of Federal employees. Hugler
advised there is no indication at present when Mr. Henderson will put the
bill in the hopper.
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10. Briefed Representative Melvin Price on the
Soviet leadership situation, Middle East tensions, Sino-Soviet relations and Soviet
naval developments. Mr. Price had been particularly preoccupied lately with
studies on the world population explosion but said he was hoping for an early
meeting of our Subcommittee so he could get up-to-date on things like the ABM
problem. He volunteered the comment that he thought the Agency's stock on
the Hill was at an all time high, largely because of the way the Director had
been handling himself.
11. During a brief courtesy call I gave Representative
0. C. Fisher a rundown on Soviet naval developments, Sino-Soviet relations
and the Middle East situation. He said he looked forward to an early meeting
of ourrvices Subcommittee so he could get up-to-date on these
and other developments in more detail.
12. Met with Ed Braswell, Chief of Staff, Senate
Armed Services Committee, who said that Chairman Stennis had recently
commented on the conflicting testimony and confusion regarding the SS-9 and
said he would probably want to call on the Agency to seek clarification.
Regarding the Daniels bill, Braswell recommended that we not take
our problem to the Post Office and Civil Service Committee but rely on the
Armed Services Committee so as not to create a jurisdictional problem. He
said he was reasonably confident that if the civil service benefits went through--
a big if at this time in his opinion--the Committee would approve similar
benefits for the Agency system.
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a personal letter to the Senator from the Director.
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S. Paid a routine call on Representative Charles
Bennett who said he had no problems regarding the Agency or its Armed
Services Subcommittae-except a feeling that there should be an early meeting
of the Subcommittee. He expressed concern about the way the Safeguard issue
had been handled and said he hoped that at the next meeting of our Subcommittee
we could clarify the situation. I explained to him that our competence and
authority was strictly limited to Soviet weapons and we were in no position to
discuss the pros and cons of Safeguard as such.
6. In the course of a routine call on Representative
William G. Bray, I gave a brief rundown on tensions in the Middle East,
Soviet leadership situation, and Soviet naval activities and submarine
construction. As in the past, Mr. Bray was much concerned about the situation
in the universities and the student attacks on the Agency, and has several
speeches and articles on this subject in the mill.
7. Paid a brief courtesy call on Representative
Leslie Arends who said he thought a meeting of our House Armed Services
Subcommittee was "overdue" and he would take the matter up with Chairman
Rivers shortly.
8. Paid a courtesy call on Representative
Alvin O'Konski who seemed mainly concerned with student unrest but commented
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Representative Edward J. Derwinski who wanted to point out that he had
been misquoted in an FBIS transcript of a Czech broadcast of 20 April. I
told Mr. Derwinski that I would call this to the attention of those concerned,
but this particular item would receive very little circulation and I thought
there was no reason for him to feel embarrassment because of it.
Mr. Derwinski said he would appreciate an Agency briefing within
the next couple of weeks on Greece and Taiwan.
Mr. Derwinski recalled our earlier discussions about the Ervin
bill (S. 782) and assured me he would support us any way he could if and
when the matter comes up in the House Post Office and Civil Service Sub-
committee of which he is a member.
3. Called on and briefed Representative Philip J.
Philbin on the Soviet leadership situation, tensions in the Middle East,
? Sino-Soviet relations, and Soviet naval developments. Mr. Philbin said he
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expressed an interest in another article which appeared in the same issue of
Kommunist as the article by General Yepishev. The new article deals with
the Brezhnev doctrine and defends the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia.
7. Met with Mr. Dean Pohlenz, Administrative
Assistant to Senator Roman L. Hruska (R., Neb.), for a preliminary discussion
of our problems with S. 782. (Senator Milton Young (R., N. Dak.) had suggested
that we talk with Pohlenz before talking with Senator Hruska personally.)
Pohlenz appeared interested and sympathetic to our situation. He also gave
some constructive suggestions and information on the Constitutional Rights
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for Mr. William Bader who recently left the Committee staff. During the
conversation I advised Mrs. McLaughlin that Mr. Maury had talked to Senator
Pell and that Senator Pell's question to her concerning Agency response to
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8. Delivered to William Sullivan, in the
office of Representative Glenard P. Lipscomb, a recent Pravda article on the
"mitrary-industrial complex" theme. Sullivan advised that the various
materials provided on this subject did not cover the earlier pronouncement
believed to have been made in the Moscow press probably in November or
December 1968. 1 advised Sulliva.n. 1 would relay his request and be back
in touch with him.
9. Met with Mr. Paul Goulding, in the office of
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Committee staff, and confirmed with him the briefing for Michaels and Bill
Woodruff, Senate Appropriations Committee staff, on Thursday, 9:00 a. m.,
at the Agency. I briefed Michaels on the following items:
a.
b.
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Soviet maneuverable satellite program;
Moscow May Day parade;
ChiCom naval spring training exercises;
land-based IRBM testing.
11. Received a call from Colonel Roy Steele,
Chief, Investigations Division, Army Office of Legislation. Colonel Steele
advised he had talked with John Reddan, House Armed Services Xatioj
Subcommittee? during the day and that he will be arranging to have Army
Operations personnel meet with Reddan on the question of
by the Department of the Army. I thanked Colonel Steele for the advice.
12. Called Robert Hull, Department of
State, to get a current reading on the Department's efforts to obtain the benefit
provisions of the Daniels bill for the Foreign Service retirement system (see
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Monday - 28 April 1969
1. Due to conflicts in schedule, both
Mr. Robert Michaels, House Appropriations Committee staff, and Mr.
William Woodruff, Senate Appropriations Committee staff, desired to
change their meeting at the Agency to Thursday, I May. The Offices
of the DD/I and DD/S&T have been advised.
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Clerk of the Senate, tor a
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of OCI, to a meeting with Mr. Darrell St. Claire,
debriefing concerning Mr. St. Claire's recent
trip to Belgrade, Yugoslovia, as Executive Secretary to the American
delegation to the Parlimentary Union meeting in Vienna, Austria. (See
Memo for the Record.)
3. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel, House Armed Services
Committee, and briefed him on the following items:
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4. Called Arnold Brustin, on the staff of
Senator Gaylord Nelson, regarding his outstanding request on behalf of
the Senator for a briefing on the Soviet and Chinese Communist threats.
I explained to Brustin that the Director had been extremely busy but wanted
to be responsive to the Senator's request and suggested two possible dates
for a briefing--Tuesday, 29 April or Friday, 2 May in the afternoon. I told
him we could work out the details next week but laid down the ground rules
that this was a briefing for the Senator only and we would ask that the fact
of the briefing not be advertised. Brustin pressed the question of his
attending the briefing in view of the fact that he has a Top Secret clearance
but I told him because of the sensitivity of this subject matter we were
briefing only members and committee staff. Brustin seemed to accept this.
He will check out the dates with the Senator and be back in touch with me.
5. Met with Mr. Bun Benton Bray and Mr.
E. Hugler, House Subcommittee on Manpower and Civil Service staff.
Mr. Bray said that Chairman Henderson had reviewed his proposed bill
with the Subcommittee during their meeting yesterday and that it was not
ready for introduction whenever such introduction might be appropriate. All
copies are with the Chairman at present. Mr. Bray also noted that from
information available to the Committee it appears that there is little pressure
from the Unions at this time for consideration of the Ervin bill and that
pressure could continue to decrease in the light of other matters of legislative
importance to the Unions.
6. Met with Russ Blandford, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee. Mr. Blandford advised that there does
not appear to be any need for testimony by the Director with regard to the
current hearings by the Pike Subcommittee on the EC121 and that to his
knowledge no consideration has been given by Chairman Pike to calling the
Director. I thanked Mr. Blandford for the advice.
7. Mrs. Mary McLaughlin, on the staff of the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, called in response to a question she
received from Senator Claiborne Pell (D. , R.I. ) about responses from the
Agency to questions posed by the Senator during the Director's briefing on
23 April. I advised Mrs. McLaughlin that responses to the list of questions
presented by the Committee were in preparation and would probably be
returned to the Committee late in the coming week.
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8. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Talked with Roger Currier, Office
of Legislation, Secretary of the Army, who advised their investigation staff
would be in contact with John Reddan, House Armed Services Committee
staff, during the day. See Journal of 22 April.
9. (Unclassified - LLM) Representative William Murphy (D. , Ill.)
called to ask if I could lunch with him on Monday, but did not volunteer the
reason for the invitation. He is now Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Sub-
committee on Asian and Pacific Affairs, formerly chaired by Representative
Zablocki (D., Wis.). I said I would meet him at his office at 12 noon.
11. (Unclassified - RJK) Delivered some IBIS material to Willians-
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per his request.
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5. The Director, accompanied by Messrs. Duckett,
Bruce Clarke, Godfrey, and Maury, briefed the Subcommittee on
International Organization and Disarmament Affairs of the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee. See transcript and Memo for Record.
6. Advised Bill Sullivan, in the office of
Representative Glenard Lipscomb (R., Calif. ), regarding his earlier request
that we were not able to find reference to the "military-industrial complex"
in any December 1968 Pravda articles, but will continue to search for it
in later Pravda editions. FBIS is continuing their search.
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DD/S&T, to brief Mr. Robert Michaels, on the staff of the House Appropriations
Committee, on certain radar programs. The briefing was very well received.
(See Memo for the Record.)
8.
Met with Mr. Arthur Kuhl, on the staff of
the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who advised that Senator John
Sherman Cooper (R. , Ky. ) is reported to have invited Senator Robert W.
Packwood (R. , Oreg. ) and Senator William Spong (D. , Va.) to attend the
Director's briefing of the Subcommittee. Mr. Kuhl also advised that
Messrs. Marcy, Holt, Lowenstein, and he would probably be in attendance.
He noted in passing that no personal staff people will be in attendance.
9. Met briefly with Mr. John Reddan, Counsel,
House Armed services investigations Subcommittee, who advised that he
has not as yet heard from the Army people concerning procurement of
materiel through other agencies. He requested that I get the names for
him so that he can call them. Mr. Roger Currier, Army L&L, has been
advised. Mr. Currier extended apologies saying that internal pressures
in the Secretary's office had :Interfered with tlieir getting back in touch
with Mr. Reddan.
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11_ Talked with Colonel Steele, Chief of the
Investigations Branch, Office of Legislation, Department of the Army, and
reviewed with him the background relating to inquiries by the Investigations'
Committee staff of the House Armed Services Committee, concerning the
Colonel Steele advised that
he would be in contact with Lieutenant C.,otonel Bill Tyler, Chief of the
Unconventional Warfare Branch, Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for
Operations, Department of Army, and would get back in touch with the
Armed Services Investigation Committee on this matter. (See Journal
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6. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Talked with Mr. Roger Currier,
Office of Legislative Liaison, Department of the Army, who advised that
he did not know whether Colonel Steele, of the Investigations Branch of the
Legislative Office, had been back in contact with Mr. John Reddan, Counsel,
House Armed Services Investiaations Subcommittee, but that he would STA1I1NTL
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OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Wednesday - 16 April 1969
1. James Lowenstein, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee staff, called to say that Senator Albert Gore would like the
Director to brief the Disarmament Subcommittee of which Senator Gore
is Chairman on the Soviet ABM system on Wednesday, 23 April at 2:00 P. M.
in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing room, 5116 in the Capitol.
With the Director's approval I called Lowenstein back to confirm the Director's
appearance.
2. Frank Hand, DOD Liaison, called to say that
Deputy Secretary of Defense Packard was appearing before the House Armed
qervices Committee tomorrow and would very much appreciate a look at the
transcript of the Director's testimony before this Committee last month.
After checking with the Director, I had a copy of the transcript hand carried
to Mr. Hand for Mr. Packard's use on an "Eyes Only" basis.
3. Gladyce Sumida, in the office of Representative
Richard Bolling (D., Mo.), called on behalf of a State Department courier
applicant who was turned down because he was over age 30 and asked if the
Agency had any employment opportunities and similar age limitations. I said
that I knew of no such age limitations, but that openings were limited and our
need was in highly specialized fields. It was agreed that we would send her
the professional employment brochure which she in turn could send on to the
constituent.
4. Advised Mr. Wayne Granquist, Administrative
Assistant to Senator Abraham A. Ribicoff (D., Conn.), that we were arranging
for Agency representatives in Saigon to meet with the two investigators from
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5. J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel, Senate
Internal Security ubcommit ee, called to request the first opportunity
for the Senate Subcommittee on Internal Security to call
After checking with
I informed Sourwine that the Agency has no interest in this
case and he is free to cal t any time. Sourwine also asked me
for background information on and I told him I would look into
this and be back in touch.
6. Mr. Bruce Clarke, accompanied by Mr.
and presented the Soviet film, "True Sons
of the People" to the House Armed Services Committee, the Committee
staff and invited guests from the military services. The film and running
commentary were very favorably received with rather strong sentiments
being expressed by the members that it would be well if this film were
shown to the American public. See Memorandum for the Record.
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House Armed Services Subcommittee for Special Investi ations, who advised
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of I thanked him for the advice
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Committee request.
Called Robert Currier, Army L&L, who apologized that their
investigative staff hadnot as yet been back in contact with Mr. Reddan. He
thanked me for the call.
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called and said that interest in the Daniels bill had increased since my call
to him on 19 March and wanted to know what the Agency was planning. He
was interested that the Post Office and Civil Service Committee staff had
rejected the possibility of providing for the Agency's retirement system
in the Daniels bill because it would complicate matters on an already
delicately balanced bill. We also discussed other available legislative
options.
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: House Armed Services Committee Viewing of the Film
"True Sons of the People" on 16 April 1969
1. On 16 April 1969, the Soviet Film "True Sons of the People"
was presented in the main Committee Room 2116, RHOB, House Armed
Services Committee. Mr. Bruce Clarke, D/OSR, gave a few introductory
remarks outlining the scope of the film and introduced the Agency narra-
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the soundtrack and a running commentary on the military hardware and
systems portrayed during the running of the film.
2. Chairman L. Mendel Rivers and Representative Melvin Price,
of the CIA Subcommittee, and some 17 other members of the Full Committee
were present. Also present were 12 members of the Armed Services
Committee staff.
3. At the invitation of Chairman Rivers, Major General McChristian,
Army; Rear Admiral Harlfinger, Navy; Major General James Philpott,
Air Force; Colonel Ed Winn, Air Force; and Colonel Diziolo and Colonel
McComb, Marine Corps, were also present.
4. General comment by the members at the conclusion of the
showing indicated almost uniform reaction that the film should be made
available, if possible, for viewing by the American public. Chairman
Rivers
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9. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Received a call from Mrs. Mary
Miller, Senate Preparedness Subcommittee staff, who advised that Mr.
Stuart P. French has left the staff for an appointment in the Department of
Defense. Mrs. Miller also advised, on behalf of Chief Counsel James
Kendall, that the Subcommittee's sponsorship of Mr. French's "special"
security clearances is withdrawn. I thanked Mrs. Miller for the advice.
10. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Talked to Mr. Robert Michaels, STATINTL
House Appropriations Committee staff, who advised that he had talked to
Chairman Mahon concerning the employment application of
and had advised the Chairman that the Agency had been unable to
locate an appropriate position for he Chairman appreciated
the advice. STATINTL
11. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Received a call from Miss Carol
Tu.chmann, Legislative Assistant to Representative Ogden R. Reid (R., N.Y.),
who called on Mr. Reid's behalf and requested, if possible, an updating of
the information previously provided on the Middle East. Mr. Reid indicated
he would appreciate it if and would meet with him
Wednesday, 23 April, at 9:00 a.m. I thanked Miss Tuchmann and advised
that I would relay Representative Reid's request. STATINTL
12. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Received a call from Miss Doris Scott,
House Armed Services Committee staff, who requested the transcript of
the Director's briefing of 18 March for review by a member. The transcript
was -forwarded to the Committee and returned to the Agency at the end of the
day.
13. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Received a call from Miss Mary
Keough, Senate Armed Services Committee staff, who advised that the
confirmation hearing scheduled for tomorrow morning had been canceled
and rescheduled for 1:30 p.m., Thursday, 17 April. Miss Keough requested
that we advise General Cushman that he need not be present until 1:30 p.m.
tomorrow.
14. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Received a call from Senator
J. Caleb Boggs (R., Delaware). who desired appropriate detailed information
for responding to a constituent,
concerning employment application with the Agency. After
receiving the file from Records Center, I reviewed some of the highlights
by telephone with Senator Boggs and advised him that we had examined our
personnel needs in the various offices of the Agency and had found no office
which could utilize qualification. Senator Bogg's apologized for
bothering us on such a matter and appreciated the first-hand information.
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1. Mr: Bruston, on the staff of Senator
Gaylord Nelson (D. , Wis. ), called and said that the Senator would like
a briefing on the Russian and Chinese Communist's threat. He said the
Senator was also interested in being briefed on the whole question of our
MIRV. I advised Bruston that the Agency was not involved in U.S. programs
and, therefore, we would not be in a position to brief on what we are doing
by way of a MIRV program. And in regard to the other aspects of his request,
I would look into it and be back in touch with him. He asked if it would make
any difference in the substance of the briefing if he were to sit in with the
Senator. I told him that, as he knew, this was an area of extreme sensitivity
and I would look into it. He asked if special clearances were needed and if
he could obtain them just for this purpose. We are checking on this.
Z. Picked up from the House Armed Services
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Committeel the transcript of the Director's testimony. before the full
House Armed Services Committee on 18 March 1969 and returned it to the
Agency for safekeeping.
3. General Haynes, Marine Corps L&L, called
to say he had received word from the Hill that General Cushman's confirmation
hearing by the Senate Armed Services Committee would be at 0930 hours on
Thursday, 17 April. General Haynes asked about precedents as to the wearing
of the uniform and whether the General should be escorted by a Marine Corps
representative as well as or instead of an Agency representative. After checking
with John Warner regarding previous confirmation hearings, I
told General Haynes that I understood the Commandant of the Marine Corps had
recommended General Cushman wear his uniform (as had Admiral Taylor and
General Carter in previous years) and that the General would be accompanied
by Agency representatives. General Haynes said this was fine with the Marine
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4. Hand carried to William Woodruff, on the staff
of the Senate Appropriations Committee, an additional map book for Senator
Richard B. Russell's (D., Ga.) use and an additional copy of our Indochina
map folio.
In connection with his expression of interest in the Soviet film,
"True Sons of the Soviets," I mentioned to Woodruff that this film was being
shown to the House Armed Services Committee today and that we could make
arrangements for him to see it at his convenience. He suggested that we try
to do this sometime next week. He added that he thought Robert Michaels,
on the staff of the House Appropriations Committee, would also like to attend
the viewing. We are coordinating this with Mr. Michaels.
I mentioned Senator Stuart Symington's (D.,Mo.) conversation with
the Director on the subject of the Agency's budget figure and Mr. Woodruff and
I discussed this at some length. We agreed that the best course would be for
us to make it clear to the Senator that there was certainly no objection to his
receiving this information (which he has, in fact, received on prior occasions
as a member of the CIA Subcommittee) but pointing out that any public discussion
of the Agency's budget, even in veiled terms, could be counter productive.
I mentioned to Woodruff the request which we had received from
Mr. Bruston, on the staff of Senator Gaylord Nelson (D. , Wis. ), for a briefing
of the Senator on the Soviet and Chinese Communist's threat and Bruston's
request to attend such a briefing. I told Woodruff we were taking this up with
the Director but, in any event, planned to exclude any members of Senator
Nelson's staff from a briefing which may be given by us. Woodruff acknowledged
that requests like these posed a serious problem and mentioned in passing the
possibility of having Senator Russell hold a committee meeting to which all
senators would be invited and at which Mr. Helms would brief all interested
members of the Senate at one time, This was merely a reaction of Woodruff's
and certainly did not reflect any views on Senator Russell's part to this effect.
Woodruff and I discussed, at some length, Senator Symington's
new subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and the staff
of that subcommittee. Woodruff expressed some concern in this connection.
(See, Memo for the Record for details.)
Woodruff asked if we would provide him with a "fact sheet" on the
new large Soviet helicopter. He said he wanted this in connection with Senator
Russell's consideration of a request from the Army for R and D money for
the development of a new helicopter. Woodruff felt that any appropriations
funded for the Army for this purpose should be delayed until the U. S. analysis
of the Soviet helicopter had been completed.
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5. At his request, delivered to Mr. J.R. Blandford,
Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Commit, the transcript of the
Director's briefing of the Armed Services Committee of 18 March for use by
the Committee during Secretary Laird's appearance. The transcript was
returned to the Agency at the end of the day.
Finalized the arrangements with Mr. Blandford for tomorrow's
presentation of the film, "True Sons of the Soviets, " for the full Armed
Services Committee at 8:30 a.m. in the Committee Room.
6. Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House Appro-
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day and be back in touch with me.
Delivered to Mr. Michaels the Agency study prepared at the
Chairman's request entitled, "Chromite: World Demand and Supply." I also
briefed Mr. Michaels on the continuation of Soviet propaganda attacks on
Yugoslavia and Rumania, Soviet disarmament talks and Soviet/Chinese
attitudes.
7. Mr. Wayne Granquist, Administrative
Assistant to Senator Abraham .A. Ribicoff (D., Conn.), called to say the
Senator would appreciate it if the Agency representative in Saigon could contact
the two investigators (LaVern Duffy and Carmen Bellinno) from the Senate
Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. He said he had received a report
from the investigators from Hong Kong which stated the Agency was "substan-
tially involved, presumably as a supplier of information. (The investigators
are looking into black market ani currency manipulations. See memo for the
record of 20 March 1969. I told Granquist I would be back in touch and
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on to us copies of material written by. which he is sending to 25X1
25X1 a number of members of Congress and leading members of the clergy in the
Washington area. Part of material is a harangue over his allegation
that CIA has harassed him for a number of years, after he refused an offer
of employment from the Agency. This is similar to letters which
circulated to members of the Congress last October. No action is indicated
on our part unless we receive an inquiry from the Hill.
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in Vienna on the peaceful uses of explosion, George Murphy, on the staff of
the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, asked for any information which we
could provide concerning the delegates "from the other side." He asked that
this be done with a minimum of coordination. I told Murphy I would look into
this and be back in touch with him.
7. Miss Morella Hansen, on the staff of the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, called and asked if
Was a member of any of the Agency's advisory boards. -After
checking with the USIB Secretariat, ONE, DD/S&T, and the Office of Security,
I informed Miss Hansen that I could not find a record of such a person on any
of the Agency boards.
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Army L&L, and brought him up-to-date on Agency meetings with Mr. John Reddan,
Counsel, House Armed Services Investizations Subcommittee, concerning the
On advice from the Uitice of Dll/P, provided the name of. Lt. (dol. .131.1.1 lyler,
Chief of the Unconventional War Branch, Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for
Operations, Department of the Army, as the staff officer with knowledge of the
background on this matter. Mr. Currier thanked me for the Agency's assistance
and indicated that Col. Steele, of the Investigations Branch of the Legislative
Office, would make direct contact with Mr. Reddan.
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Monday - 14 April 1969
1. Met with Mr. J.R. Blandford, Chief Counsel,
House and reviewed with him the Agency presenta-
tion of the film, "True Sons of the Soviets," scheduled for Wednesday morning,
16 April before the full Armed Services Committee. Mr. Blandford was not
able to explain the breakdown in communications between the Committee and
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efforts in bringing the film to the Committee's attention and again advise that
would not be required at the film showing. See Journal item of 25X1
11 April.
2. Met with Mr. Frank Machen, House
Subcommittee on Manpower and Civil Service staff, who advised that the new
Henderson bill relating to the constitutional rights of Federal employees will
probably be introduced late next week or the following week. It is now about
98 percent complete. Although he provided no detail, he indicated that it was
the staff's feeling that Agency interests are well taken care of in the proposed
bill. He also advised that it would be necessary to see Mr. Bray later in the
week on the question of when a copy might be available for our use.
3. Received a call from Mrs. Oneta
Stockstill, Executive Secretary, House Armed Services Committee, who
advised that the Committee is inviting the intelligence chiefs of the three
military services or their representatives to attend the showing of the film,
"True Sons of the Soviets," on Wednesday.
4. Received a call from Mr. John Ford,
of the klaiLse Armed Services Committee staff, who advised that he had
talked to
to advise that his
presence will not be necessary on Wednesday for the showing of the film,
"True Sons of the Soviets." Mr. Ford advised that there was no difficulty
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Friday - 11 April 1969
5. Brigadier General F. E. Haynes,
Legislative Liaison for the Marine Corps, called to keep me up-to-date
on his dealings with Ed Braswell, Staff Director, Senate Armed Services
Committee, regarding the scheduling of General Cushman's confirmation
hearings. General Haynes said he had been unable to get a definite
commitment from Braswell that the hearings will be scheduled along
with others on Thursday, 17 April. He hopes that Senator John Stennis
(D , Miss.) will make a decision on this next Monday or Tuesday. I
thanked General Haynes for this information which is consistent with
,what. I have obtained directly from Braswell.
6. Met with Mrs. Oneta Stockstill, House
Armed Services Committee staff, who advised that she had received a call
on Thursday inquiring whether the showing 25X1
of the film, "True Sons of the Soviets, " had been firmed up in the schedule
for 16 April. .Mrs.Stockstill advised that it was and indicated that it had
been her understanding from correspondence received several weeks ago
that would provide a running 25X1
commentary on the film. Mrs. btockstill advised that she had seen no other
correspondence on the matter. It will be necessary to await Mr. Blandford's
return on Monday to confirm the showing of the film which was worked out
with Mr. Blandford on 25 March. Memo for the Record by Mr. 25X1
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and would give him the details about the Agency's irritation. Coggan
told that indeed if the Agency feels that way he would be happy to
tell Congressman Rivers that he is ill and unable to attend the screening.
related the above to OLC, who was horrified at
this turn of events. He said he couldn't conceive of the Agency taking a
position like that and he would immediately start checking on two things,
(1) exactly what was said to Smart with respect to Coggan's association
with the film, and (2) did Congressman Rivers' office tru/ly expect
Coggan to narrate the film when he had already been apprised that the Agency
would give the narration.
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9. Hand carried to William Woodruff', on the staff
of the erl.a.te Ap )ropria.tions Committee, th.e Director's letter to Senator
Richaru ausseli D. , Ga.) on the statement carried in Warren Unnals column
in today's Washington Post. Woodruffnad me wait in his office while he took
the letter to Senator Russell. On his return, Woodruff said. that Senator Russel].
was quite concerned about the situation and might call the Director about it. 1.
also talked with Woodruff about the request from William Miller for a briefing
of Senator John Sherman Cooper (R. , Ky. ) tomorrow. Woodruff also discu;
this with Senator Russell. (See Memo for the Record for details.)
Bill Woodruff said that Admiral Means Johnston, Chief of
Liaison for the Navy, had recommended to Senator Russell the Soviet
True Sons of the People, which Woodruff understood was under Agency
Woodruff said he would like to preview this film before suggesting to
Russell that he see it. I did not mention it to Woodruff but .I planned to :-.ziplore
the possibility of having Woodruff attend the viewing of this film at the House
Services Committee on 16 April.
10. In response to the request from Colonel Seymour
on the staff of the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, IViessrs.
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Brandwein, and ent to the. ,ICAE offices to brief Representative
Craig Hosmer (R. , Calif. ) on the Moscow ABM system and related subjects.
Due to a concurrent briefing which had been scheduled by Schwiller from DOD
officials, Representative Hosrner elected not to have DOD and CIA briefings .
given at the same time and cancelled our briefing. (See Memo for the Record
for details.).
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(R. , N. Dak. ), that our Director of Personnel had written to
on 19 March sending him forms and had not as yet heard from him.
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the forms to the Agency and,thereforQ.:, we should expect to receive them
momentarily. I told Mr. Sylvester that when we receive the forms and have 151
an opportunity to review the situation, I would be back in touch with him.
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8. Met with Ed Braswell, Staff Director of the
Senate Armed services uommittee, to alert him to the situation regarding
Senator J. W. Fulbright's (D. , Ark.) query to Under Secretary of State
Richardson on the subject of availability of national intelligence estimates
for the Foreign Relations Committee. I advised Braswell that the Director
had prepared letters to Senator Richard Russell (D. , Ga.) and Senator John
Stennis (D. , Miss.) on the problem but was holding them for the moment,
since the issue seems to have subsided. Braswell ventured the opinion
that Senator Fulbright would not press for the NIEs but was merely testing
Under Secretary Richardson. He added, however, that if this question should
ever come to issue this was one which would justify invoking executive privilege.
Braswell and I again discussed General Cushman's confirmation
hearing. He said the Marine Corps was in almost daily contact with him and
that the earliest possible date for a confirmation hearing was 17 April. He
said the Committee has scheduled procurement hearings on that date but there
is a possibility that they can also schedule the confirmation hearing on the same
day. Chairman Stennis has not made a decision on this yet.
Mr. Braswell brought up the subject of the Evening Star article
on the Ervin bill and said he assumed that it would be helpful to us if Senator
Ervin made the concession reportedly under consideration. He asked what our
view would be on this. I told him that our people were contacting the Civil
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in the light of these possible changes.
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Monday - 7 April 1969
1. John Lofton, Republican Congressional
Committee staff, called and said he would like to review the FBIS Latin
America Daily Reports covering the summer of 1964 in hopes of commn
across further statements by along the lines o
August 1964 broadcast from Havana. Based upon information provided by
FBIS, told Lofton that these reports were available in the
Library of Congress in the agency serial collection.
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interview for The appointment was made for 9:00 a.m.,
15 April 1969 with Personnel, and Mr. Smith advised.
3. Hand carried to George Murphy, on the staff of
the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, the Director's le o 4 April 1969
25X1 providing further information on the ase. I also 25X1
hand carried to Murphy, Mr. Maury's response to Mr. Bauser's letter
requesting any information which the Agency had on commercial use of
classified U.S. information by NATO countries.
Mr. Murphy said that a Soviet named Suslov allegedly made
statements recently of a rather bellicose nature with regard to actions
which the Soviet Union could, and possibly would, take against the United
States. Mr. Murphy would like any references which we might have to
such statements. He said he would also appreciate if we could pinpoint
in the Library of Congress or elsewhere sources of some of the more
obvious and recent statements by Soviet officials on the subject of Soviet
missile superiority. I told Murphy I would check on this and be in touch
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10. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, House Armed
Services Committee staff, in response to Chairman Pike's request for an
unclassified summary of the Director's testimony on the Pueblo inquiry for
inclusion in the published hearings of the Committee. I reviewed with him
again, the substantive content of the Director's testimony and the problems
inherent in open publication of matters of testimony by the Director. With
some reluctance, Mr.Slatinshek. accepted the determination that an unclassified
summary cannot be provided. Mr. Slatinshek pointed out that Mr. Seligman,
of NBC, has spent a couple of hours with the Committee staff requesting infor-
mation for a white paper on the Pueblo to be presented in the near future by
NBC. He noted that Mr. Seligman had been on this assignment since January
and that by his questions, apparently has gathered more material on the
subject than is available at present to the Subcommittee. It is noted that
although Mr. Slatinshek has relented in the Committee's request, pressures
for publication of all public information by the Committee copld well result
in a renewed request to the Agency at a later date.
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Briefed Mr. Slatinshek on the Soviet helicoptelt, Leningrad, and
reviewed with him the Daily News press report of Senator Ervin's remarks
concerning Agency opposition to S. 782.
11. Met with Mr. Carl Marcy, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee staff, and discussed with him Chairman Fulbright's request for
review of the transcript of Admiral Raborn's testimony of July 19, 1965 with
25X1 respect to for possible publication. Mr. Marcy noted
that there is no intention of release of testimony on Agency matters but requested
that we provide a letter to the Chairman setting forth some specifics as to why
the Agency is unable to sanitize and release the transcript. See Memo for Record.
Mr. Marcy noted that a problem is generating within the Committee
relating to the testimony of Secretary Laird concerning first-strike capability and
new intelligence information on the SS-9. He noted the ball is in State Depart-
ment's court as a result of an exchange between Chairman Fulbright and Under
Secretary Elliot Richardson during the Spanish base hearings yesterday and
apologized that the transcript would not be available until tomorrow morning, if
we cared to review it. Since the exchange with Under Secretary Richardson
related to the new intelligence estimate on the SS-9, Mr. Marcy felt that the.?5X1
matter would be of interest to us. See Memo for the Record.
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8. Met. with Mr. 3.R. Blandford, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee and reviewed with him responses,
for the record, to the questions of Representative Dickinson concerning
the number of MIG 21s the Soviets have supplied to Cuba and shipment of
SAMs into North Vietnam. Mr. Blandford will review the response to
Representative Dickinson.
briefed Mr. Blandford on the Soviet reconnaissance activities
in the Chinese border area, Soviet recon satellite activities during March,
Soviet space activity and Soviet military equipment to India to include OSA
Class guided missile patrol boats.
9. Met with Representative Glenard P.
Lipscomb (R., Calif.) who advised that he had a letter in his office that
is of some interest to him. He would like Co discuss it the first of the
week. It was also agreed that he would review the Agency responses to
his questions
Mr. Lipscomb requested an
updating of the unclassified paper that was provided for his use last
September on the "Soviet threat. " This is an area that he feels is receiving
improper emphasis on both the floor of the Congress and in the American
press. I advised that I would be pleased to relay his request.
10. Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House
Appropriations Committee staff, and advised that Representative Yates
had called the Director and would probably be calling Chairman Mahon
concerning Soviet deployment of ABMs around Moscow. The Director
advised Mr. Yates that this is classified information but that Chairman
Mahon and Chairman Rivers have been briefed. Mr. Michaels advised
that he would pass this on to the Chairman.
. Mr. Michaels requested the Agency's current forecast on the
world chromium market. Various items of testimony presented to the
Chairman concerning the Rhodesian mines have given rise to a more
than mild interest on the Chairman's part as to supplies available to the
United States.
As follow-up to his request earlier in the week, I provided
a copy of the Soviet projected missile forces, 1969 - 1978. I briefed Mr.
Michaels on the military equipment supplied to India by the Soviets which
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House Armd Services Committee, and briefed him on the military
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Thursday - 27 March 1969
1. In response to the request of Chairman Rivers,
delivered the Committee copy of the transcript of the Director's testimony
of 18 March before the Armed Services Committee to Mr. Blandford, House
Armed Services Committee staff, for the Chairman's use during today's
hearings of the Secretary of Defense. At the conclusion of the day's hearings,
the transcript was returned to the Agency for safekeeping. It was requeste55x1
that the transcript again be returned to the Committee for Friday's hearing.
2.
Director to Chairman Rivers' office.
Delivered a person.i :Ler from the
3. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, ouse Armed
Services Committee staff, who renewed Representative Otis Pike's,
Chairman of the Special Subcommittee on the U. S. S. Pueblo, request for
an unclassified version of the Director's testimony of 5 March for publica-
tion in the unclassified report of Committee hearings. After discussion of
some of the problems inherent in unclassified testimony or appearance in
open session by the Director, I advised Mr. Slatinshek that I would relay the
request and be back in touch with him.
I briefed Mr. Slatinshek on Soviet reconnaissance in Chinese border
areas; beginning of preparations for combined Soviet Bulgarian military
exercises under Warsaw Pact Commander Yakubovsky; Soviet Naval task force
operations in the North Atlantic; and Soviet space activities.
4. Linda Wahler, in the office of Representative
Charles M. Teague (R., Calif. ), called to inquire about communism in the
United States on behalf of a constituent. I told her that the Agency has no
jurisdiction in this area and suggested she get in touch with the House Committee
on Internal Security.
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4. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Met with Mr. Ralph Devlin, and
separately with Mr. Charles Johnson, House Post Office and Civil Service
Committee staff, concerning Subcommittee action on the Daniels bills
(H. R. 770). It was learned that consideration was given during Sub-
committee executive discussion of the bill to the possible need for similar
amendment or change in other Federal retirement systems. Their
determination was apparently reached that agencies and authority under
Foreign Affairs and Armed Services Committees appropriately should be
handled by them. The Committee staff is in the process of finalizing
the language for inclusion in the amended portions of the bill.
5. (Unclassified - JMM) Talked with Charles Johnson, Staff
Director, House Post Office and Civil Service Committee, regarding the
Daniels bill (H. R. 770)--he does not think it feasible to try to amend the
present version to take care of Agency requirements. See Memo for
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n response to his call, met with
to Representative William
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Ind.), and received from hin
a personal resume of
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of 14 March. Mr. Michaels requested,for the Chairman, advice whether
the Agency has completed its forecast for the various missile systems
for the period 1971 to 1975.
Reviewed with Mr. Michaels response to questions raised during
the hearings on 17 March concerning North Korean armistice violations.
Mr. Michaels requested that since this question had been raised by
Representative Slack, the paper be reviewed with him before inclusion
in the transcript.
Reviewed with Mr. Michaels, the Agency memorandum concerning
shipment of combat material to North Vietnam, which was prepared as a
result of questioning by Representative Lipscomb. Mr. Michaels requested
that the paper be reviewed with Mr. Lipscomb prior to inclusion in the
transcript.
3. In response to his request, met with Mr.
J. R. Blandford, Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, who
renewed the Chairman's request that a copy of the transcript of the
Director's testimony be available at the Committee during Mr. Laird's
appearance. Mr. Laird will be appearing tomorrow and Friday before
the full Committee.
Mr. Blandford also requested a technical sweep of certain of the
Committee offices during the day tomorrow. The Office of Security has
been advised.
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5. In response to a request, delivered to
Mr. Robert Michaels, House Appropriations Committee staff, a copy
of the transcript of the Director's briefing of 13 March. Mr. Michaels
was particularly interested in the portions relating to Soviet missiles.
After review, he requested a copy of the chart shown by the Director
of the numbers and types of operational launchers.
I briefed Mr. Michaels on the following items: Soviet
deployment of SA-4 missiles in Eastern Europe; Soviet J-Class missile
submarines; Soviet naval forces operating in the Norwegian Sea; and
the Soviet satellite launchings during the last month.
6. Delivered to Mrs. Mary McLaughlin,
Senate Foreign Relations Committee staff, transcripts of the Director's
briefing of the Foreign Relations Committee of 26 January 1965, 25 and
28 February 1966, and 3 February 1967 for review. Mrs. McLaughlin
advised that although the request for the transcripts had come from
another member of the staff, the rule will be continued that transcripts
returned to the Committee for review will be held in the main Committee
room for review and they are not intended to be released to member's
offices or other staff members. Upon return of the transcripts late in
the day, Mrs. McLaughlin advised that Mr. Marcy had also wanted to
review portions of these transcripts but had not had time during the day.
7. Met with Mr. J. R. Blandford, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, concerning his request for a Committee
viewing of a certain Soviet film depicting military hardware. Mr. Blandford
requested that the film be made available for viewing by the full Committee
at 8:30 a, m. , Wednesday, 16 April. The Office of DD/I has been advised.
8. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, and briefed him on the following items:
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Thursday - 20 March 1969
3. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, and reviewed with him, in part,
testimony received by the Committee that appeared to have been taken
from an Agency blind memorandum that was furnished for Committee
information on Monday, 17 March. (See Memorandum for the Record for
details.)
Discussed with Mr. Slatinshek the level of classification of the
Director's testimony before the Pike Subcommittee and suggested that
the Agency would provide safekeeping for the Committee's copies at such
time as their immediate use is no longer required by the Committee. Mr.
Slatinshek indicated he thought this would be quite acceptable to the
Chairman. As to the question of ultimate publication of an unclassified
report of the Subcommittee's hearings, Mr. Slatinshek requested, if
possible, an unclassified summary of the Director's testimony for
inclusion in the hearing report. After discussion at some length, Mr.
Slatinshek conceded that if a meaningful summary could not be provided
by the Agency, that the report would need to show at a minimum that the
Director appeared and provided testimony which was classified.
I briefed Mr. Slatinshek on the MIG-19 and MIG-20 aircraft
supplied to the North Vietnamese by the Chinese Communists and the
Soviet Union.
4. Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House
Appropriations Committee staff, and briefed him on the MIG-19 and
MIG-21 aircraft supplied to the North Vietnamese by the Chinese Communists
and the Soviet Union.
5. Met with Representative H. R. Gross
(R., Iowa) and discussed briefly with him an anonymous letter relating
to the Agency. Mr. Gross thanked me for coming by and indicated he
would await my call should there be further developments of interest to him.
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Meeting with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee
1. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek and discussed with him the
testimony received by the Pike Subcommittee during the day on the
question of the existence of written guidelines for the assessment of
risk for missions such as the Pueblo. Mr. Slatinshek noted that
testimony given during the morning by General Carroll was to the
effect that no such gaidclines existed. On return of the witnesses in
the afternoon when the question was again raised, the Director of
DIA "related the six points contained in the Agency blind memorandum
in the order in which they appeared in the memorandum." Mr.
Slatinshek did not continue beyond this point in the testimony in quoting
from the record;but from his remarks, it would appear that there was
some feeling between the 'Chairman and Counsel on the one hand and
the witness, as to the inconsistency between the responses given in
the morning and in the afternoon.
2. After talking with Mr. Maury, I advised Mr. Slatinshek
that the points listed in our memorandum originated with the Joint
Chiefs who have a prime responsibility in this area and that our memo.
randum had related them as we received them from the Joint Chiefs.
3. Mr. Slatinshek was satisfied with this explanation of the
coincidence in the ordering of the items in the response by General
Carroll,
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Bill Miller, of Senator John Sherman
Cooper's (R.
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the Senator suffers "from complete
exhaustion"
and will be recuperating
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Told Russ Blandford, Chief Counsel,
House Armed
Services Committee,
that we understood Chairman Rivers
is interested in a Soviet film depicting
Soviet military hardware and that
we had this film and we will gladly show it, and provide commentary, for
the Chairman, Committee members and staff per his wishes. Blandford
will discuss
with the Chairman
and let us know the results.
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Frank
Slatinshek, of the House Armed Services
Committee
staff, called for
clarification
of the "risk criteria" mentioned
in our memo supplementing the Director's testimony before the Pike Sub-
committee on the Pueblo. After checking with DDI, I explained to Slatinshek
so far as this Agency was concerned each of these criteria is 'carefully
considered in each case, but I could not speak for other agencies.
the Director's
Director had
Slatinshek volunteered
testimony and
won the complete
the remark that Chairman Pike had found
the follow-up memo very helpful and that the
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of the Joint
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committee on
dated 11 March 1969. It had
also been my intention to brief Colonel Schwiller
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areas and obtain secrecy agreements from
him; however, Schwiller was unable to keep our appointment and this will be
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Senate Internal
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J. Sourwine,
Chief Counsel,
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I informed Sourwine
and has been in touch with several magazines in an
effort to sell material
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actions in this regard but that if Sourwine's Subcommittee wants
here
would appear to be no problem although there may be dupli-
cation. Sourwine
he did not
said that on the basis of the
think the Subcommittee would want
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ut that he will check
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In response
to a request from Scott
Cohen, in
the office of Senator Charles Percy
(R.,
Ill.), made ersonnel
interview
appointments for at
1530 today
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Counsel, Houge Armed Services Committee, and reviewed briefly with
him the transcript of the Director's testimony of 18 March before the
full Armed Services Committee. Mr. Blandford agreed, on behalf of
the Chairman, that the transcripts be retained by the Agency on call for
Committee use. Mr. Blandford also requested that the visual aid
material be inserted at the appropriate places in the transcript. He
also requested that I stand by on Thursday, 25 March, while Mr. Laird
is present before the Committee, with a copy of the transcript for the
Chairman's use.
4. In response to his query, advised
Mr. Vincent .Augliere, House Subcommittee on Foreign Operations and
Government Information staff, that 3ntered on duty on 25X1
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noted that is an individual Chairman Moss met in the Far East
and will be seeing again in the near future.
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to J. Sourwine, Senate Internal Security Subcommittee staff, in
response to his earlier request.
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Met with Mr. Sam Freedman and Mr.
Tom Blackenship, Capitol Reporting Company, and finalized the arrange-
ments for security control for the transcripts of the Director's testimony
before the
House Armed Services Committee. Only two copies of the
transcripts
will be made.
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In response to his call, met with Mr. Vincent
Augliere,
House Subcommittee
on Foreign Operations and Government
Information. Mr. Augliere requested
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would like to ascertain whether
proceeding further.
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House Armed Services Committee. See Memo for Record and transcript.
10. Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House Appropriations
Committee staff, and reviewed with him an unsigned letter addressed to
Chairman Mahon. Mr. Michaels indicated that Mr. Sprankle thought it might
be of interest to the Agency and was forwarding it for our information. I
asked Mr. Michaels to thank Ken on our behalf.
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Monday - 17 March 1969
5. Met with Mr. J. R. Blandford, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, and discussed with him arrangements
for handling of the transcripts and the arrangements for meeting of the
full Committee to hear the Director on Tuesday, 18 March. It was Mr.
Blandford's very firm suggestion that the Director speak directly to the
Chairman at the beginning of the session so that there be no question of
Chairman's approval of an uninter.rupted presentation of the Director's
prepared material with questions by the Committee members to follow.
6.
Delivered to Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, a blind memorandum containing
responses to questions posed during the Director's appearance before the
Pike Subcommittee on 5 March 1969.
7. Accompanied the Director who briefed the
Defense and Military Constructiou Subcommittees of House Appropriations.
See Memo for Record and transcript.
8. Accompanied Carl Duckett, DD/S&T, who
briefed the Senate Armed Services ad hoc Subcommittee on Research
and Development on the subject of Soviet R&D programs. See Memo for
the Record.
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Friday - l March 1969
1. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel,
House Armed Services Commit, who advised that the Pike Subcommittee
will be hearing General Carroll on Wednesday and Thursday of next week
and will need the responses to the questions to Mr. Helms on assessment
of risk and related problems for:evi(..,w prior to General Carroll's
appearance. I advised Mr. SlatiLshek that I would relay the request
and be back in touch with him on Monday.
2. Met with Mr. Robert McFadden, Administra-
tive Assistant to Representative Cha:les Chamberlain (R. , Mich.), and
reviewed with him the Congressman's floor statement of 6 March concerning
free world shipping into North Vietnam. Mr. McFadden pointed out that
there had been a typographical error in the report of Mr. Chamberlain's
statements indicating 23 rather than 21 ships for this year. He also advised
that information on free world shipping into North Vietnam is being pro-
vided on a monthly basis by DIA in keeping with the letter request from
Chairman Rivers of about a year ago. The information is furnished directly
to Mr. Chamberlain, who was the principal requester in the Armed Services
Committee.
3. Met with Mrs. Mary McLaughlin, Secre-
tary to Mr. Carl Marcy, Senate Foreign Relations Committee staff, and
received from her the blind memorandum dated 11 March, which was
furnished in response to questions raised by Chairman Fulbright and
Senators Case and Cooper during the Director's appearance before the
Foreign Relations Committee on 26 February. No comment was made by
Mr. Marcy or the Committee members concerning this response to their
questions. The memorandum is returned to the Agency for inclusion in
the transcript, which is held by the Agency for safekeeping.
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Thursday - 13 March 1969
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of chemical, bacteriological, and radiological warfare. The meeting was
very relaxed and consisted primarily of the Congressman asking qu.estio-n,
of The discussion naturally centered largely on the CB,
Program in the Soviet Union, but McCarthy also asked about satellite
countries, the UAR, and Communist China. The Congressman indicated
that he had become involved in this subject largely as a result of his wife's
interest in it, but indicated that he was genuinely concerned about it. He
expressed his appreciation for briefing and said it had 25X1
been most helpful. He also mentioned in passing that his contact with us had
been triggered by the receipt of an FBIS item which we had sent him on the
subject. He said he was very much interested in receiving texts of broadcasts
mentioning him and would like to continue to receive them in the future.
6. Met with Mr. John R. Blandford, Chief
Counsel, House Armed Services, who advised that the Chairman is concerned
about the deliberate overflight of the Aleutian Islands by a Soviet BEAR.
Questions undoubtedly will arise on this subject at Tuesday's briefing.
Mr. Blandford also noted the full Armed Services Committee of 40 men
tends at times to confuse internal matters of importance in their constituencies
with the responsibilities of Federal agencies. In consequence, some
questions which can be anticipated relate to the responsibility of Justice
Department and FBI. He recommended for the Director's consideration a
short statement at the outset of the Agency responsibility and authority which
of itself would be beneficial to all members of the Committee.
7. Met with Mr. Peter Scrivn.er, Adminis-
trative Assistant to Representative Melvin Price (D., Ill.), concerning the
request for information on Air America employment. This correspondence
was forwarded for Agency action from the Department of State. Mr. Scrivner
was somewhat apologetic about the handling of this constituent request and
agreed that he would supply the individual with information from the local
office of Air America without further reference to the Agency. No further
action is required on this matter. Department of State has be..r. 1-.01 ified.
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Monday - 10 March 1969
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In response to the request of Mr.
Gordon Uremovic,
Administrative
Assistant to Representative B.F. Sisk
(D., Calif.), delivered a copy of the Agency's map portfolio of Communist
China for
the Congressman's use.
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Met with Mr. Russ Blandford, Chief
? Counsel,
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?Conurlitte_e,,,, and briefed him orally on the
Director's correspondence with
Senator Ervin. Mr. Blandford's reaction
was somewhat strong concerning the position taken by Senator Ervin. He
? requested copies be made available, if possible, for briefing the Chairman
and members
of the House
Armed Services Committee.
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Representative William Bates (R., Mass.)
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systems.
previously
the information
provided concerning
4. Met with Mr. Bun Bray, Manpower
Subcommittee of House Post Office and Civil Service Committee staff, and
discussed the Ervin bill with him at some length. Mr. Bray advised that
Chairman Henderson appears stronger than ever in his resolve that appro-
priate exemption must be provided in any legislation of this nature for the
protection of the security agencies.
5. In response to his call, met with
Mr. Boyd Crawford, Staff Director, House Foreign Affairs Committee,
who requested assistance on behalf of the Chairman on the case of
Mr. Crawford furnished the
correspondence on this file forwarded to Chairman Morgan by Mr. Thomas
Minehart, Chairman of the Pennsylvania Democratic State Committee. The
Office of Personnel has been advised.
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5. Met with Mr. A. J. Montgomery,
Special Assistant to Senator Jack Miller, who advised that the FBIS
White Book is a very useful office tool and that the office would appreciate
receiving it on a continuing basis.
6. Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House
Appropriations Committee staff, who advised that as of the moment, he
does not foresee time for scheduling a meeting of the CIA Subcommittee
for the next two weeks.
I also reviewed with Mr. Michaels the classified handling of
the transcripts of the Director's briefing of the Defense Subcommittee on
13 and 14 March. Mr. Michaels noted that the Chairman and members of
the Subcommittee will undoubtedly have questions on Vietnam and Southeast
Asia that will be generated by Secretary Laird's trip to the Far East.
7. Met with Mr. Homer McMurray,
Clerk, Office of Official Reporters to House Committees, and made the
preliminary arrangements for Agency control of the reporters' notes,
and transcripts of the Defense Appropriations Subcommittee hearings for
13 and 14 March. I will meet again with Mr. McMurray prior to the
meetings to ascertain the names of the reporters and transcribers to be
used for the hearing.
8 . Received from Miss Berniece Kalinowski,
House Armed Services Committee staff, the Agency copy of the transcript
of the Director's testimony of 5 March before the Pike Subcommittee.
9 ? Received a call from Mr. Borstein,
in the office of Representative Leonard Farbstein (D., N. Y.) concerning
the membership of the Soviet Politbureau and other persons in the present
government of the Soviet Union. I referred Mr. Borstein to the Department
of State.
10. Met with Mary McLaughlin, Senate Foreign
Relations Committee staff, and advised that the additional material
concerning cost of certain Soviet military programs for inclusion in the
record of the hearing of 26 February will be forwarded on Tuesday, 11 March.
Miss McLaughlin will relay this advice to Mr. Marcy but indicated that
she is certain this will be satisfactory.
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Thursday - 6 March 1969
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11. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel,
House Armed Services C,ommittee, and provided a copy of the Congressional
Record material covering Senator Symington's remarks on the Pueblo
incident of 4 February and pointed out particular paragraphs of interest.
Mr. Slatinshek noted that he would put it with his material for inclusion
in the record. He advised that after the completion of today's hearings,
Chairman Pike intends to make a short press release on the hearings to
date. Since it had not yet been dictated by the Chairman, however, Mr.
Slatinshek could not detail the content. It is the Chairman's intention
to include a statement to the effect that the Agency was not involved in the
responsibility of the Pueblo incident.
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Atomic Energy two copies oi NIE 13-8-69, Communist China's Strategic
Weapons Program. One copy is to be retained by the Joint Committee for
the use of the Senate Preparedness Subcommittee.
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staff of the Senate Appropriations Committee, a letter from the Director
to Senator Russell transmitting a copy of his prepared statement as given
before the Pike Subcommittee on the Pueblo. Mr. Woodruff hastily reviewed
the statement commenting that it looked good to him and consistent with the
briefing papers which Admiral O'Brien had made available to him. He also
said that the statement would be very useful to him in preparing his memo-
'randurn to Senator Russell on the subject. It is Woodruff's feeling that
protracted and repetition on the Pueblo by numerous congressional committees
will serve no useful purpose. He proposes to suggest to Senator Russell that
the Senator call the Director, General Carter, and Admiral Moorer before
the CIA Subcommittees to review the situation in the light of steps which might
be taken to avoid this kind of situation in the future.
I passed on to Woodruff the data on Soviet SO-1 class subchasers and
P-4 class motor torpedo boats which he had requested and which were provided
for us by Bruce Clarke, OSR.
I returned to Woodruff the map book which we had prepared for him
some years ago. DDI Graphics is preparing six new books for the use of
Woodruff, Braswell, and our Subcommittee chairmen.
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6. Talked to Baron Shacklette, Administra-
tive Assistant to Representative Wright Patman (D. , Texas), concerning
their request for information on the Minutemen on behalf of a constituent,
I informed Shacklette that this is an organization which
operates within the United States and that the Agency has no records on
it. I suggested that he contact the FBI and the House Committee on
Internal Security.
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Stamberger,
letter from
tion on Agency
At their request, returned
to Nancy
the orginal
informa-
in the office of Senator
William Saxbe (R., Ohio),
had written to Saxbe requesting
who
employment.
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Delivered to Nancy Eklund,
in the office
of Senator
Ted Stevens (R., Alaska),
the Agenc ?am hlet and
the Raborn
interview
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Delivered to Mr. Carl Marcy as follow up of
questioning
by Senator Gore
during the Director's briefing of Senate
Foreign Relations Committee of 26 February, a Memorandum titled,
"CIA Estimates of Enemy Strength in South Vietnam." Mr. Marcy advised
that he would show the paper to Senator Gore during the day and if
possible return it for insertion in the transcript.
The paper was picked
up late in the day and returned to the Agency.
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the Director's appearance, Mr. Slatinshek advised that the Chairman felt
the Director had made an impressive appearance and that his statement was
an excellent one. He will provide our copy of the transcript the first thing
in the morning and indicated that we might discuss some of the questions
further after the transcript has been reviewed.
I also briefed Mr. Slatinshek on the present estimate of Soviet
operational ICBMs on launcher.
11.
Met with Mr. J. R. Blandford, Chief Counsel,
, concerning the physical and security
arrangements for today's briefing of the Pike Subcommittee.
I also briefed Mr. Blandford on the number of Soviet ICBMs
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6 . Met with Mr. Clifford Gaucher, Adminis-
trative Assistant to Representative Philip J. Philbin (D. , Mass.), and
reviewed with him the correspondence relating to
and provided copies of earlier correspondence between the Strategic
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copies of the various FBIS intercepts of North Korean "warnings" during
the weeks preceding the Pueblo capture to Chairman Pike's Administrative
Assistant, Mrs. Robert G. Woolbert.
Later talked to Mr. Slatinshek at the close of today's hearings
and was advised that it had not been possible to complete the testimony
of Admiral Moorer and that the Chairman had requested that the Admiral
return in the morning. Chairman Pike would appreciate it if the Director
could be available at 11:00 a.m. rather than 10:00 a.m. The Director has
been advised.
I also requested a Committee authorization to purchase a copy
of the transcript of the Director's testimony. Mr. Slatinshek indicated
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Delivered t,D Mr. Arthur Kuhl, Chief Clerk,
Senate Foreign Relations
Committee, the transcripts of the Director's
appearance on 3 February 1967 and 2,6 February 1969. The transcripts
were returned
to the Agency late in the day for safekeeping.
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Christopher,
ACDA, who advised that their review of SIG Minutes doe::
not indicate NPT consideration by Zile Group. In consequence, th
response to Senator Thurmond's hitter of 17 February will probably
include reference
to SIG. The Office of DD/I has been advised.
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Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House Appro-
priations
Committee staff,
and reviewed with him the Agency correspon-
dence relating to the employment
application of Df
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received through the Chairman's office. Should any question be raised,
he will advise.
I briefed Mr. Michaels concerning Soviet intensification of
intelligence effort against ChiComs and the South Vietnamese Communist
offensive.
4. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel, House
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briefed him in some detail on the progress of the program.
Also discussed with him some of the arrangements for the Director's
appearance on Wednesday. Mr. Slatinshek noted with apparent approval
the Chairman's determination that the Director would appear in executive
session.
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South Vietnam and the Soviet intensified intelligence effort against the
Chinese Communists.
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16.
Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, and discussed with him the upcoming
Pike Subcommittee hearings on the Pueblo loss. While I was with Mr.
Slatinshek, he talked by telephone first with Mr. Kenneth BeLieu, of the
White House, and then to Chairman Pike. He reviewed the Committee's
request for information from the Navy which had not been honored and
from the CIA for the names and official titles of the members of the 303
Committee noting that this information had not been provided but that the
Committee was advised that the 303 Committee is established by the White
House and release Of this information would be proper through the White
House. At the conclusion of the conversation with Mr. Pike, Mr. Slatinshek
advised that the Chairman was now making a formal request for the Director
to appear in open session on Wednesday, 5 March. See Memorandum for
the Record for details.
I briefed Mr. Slatinshek on Soviet missile equipment in Syria,
ChiCom construction of attack submarines
and Soviet development of surface-to-air short range missile system.
17. Had conversations during the day with:
NSA; Charles Havens, ISA; Admiral O'Brien, Navy;
Frank Slatinshek, House Armed Services Committee staff; and Representativ25X1
William Bates concerning the upcoming hearings on the Pueblo. See
Memo for Record for details.
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Discussion with Frank Slatinshek, Counsel, House
Armed Services Committee, Regarding the Pueblo
Subcommittee Hearings
1. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek and discussed with him
the upcoming Pike Subcommittee hearings on the Pueblo loss.
While I was with Mr. Slatinshek, he called Mr. Kenneth BeLieu,
at the White House, and discussed with him the two problem areas
encountered by the Committee in attempting to gain information
from the Navy: failure of the Navy to provide a copy of the execu-
tive sessions of the Naval Board of Inquiry on the Pueblo loss, and
the avoidance of answers to 13 questions posed by the Committee
the day before on the ground that the questions and answers related
to matters under consideration by the Navy Board of Inquiry. Mr.
Slatinshek mentioned to Mr. BeLieu his request to CIA for the
names and official titles of members of the 303 Committee.
2. Mr. Slatinshek noted to Mr. BeLieu that although it is
understandable that such information as the 303 Committee mem-
bership would be properly released only by the White House, that
the overall problem of gaining information for the Committee and
the conduct of the hearings by Chairman Pike may be one that will
have to be resolved by referral back to the Secretary of Defense or
eventually back to the White House. Mr. Slatinshek did not receive
any answers or response as such from Mr. BeLieu. Mr. Slatinshek
was relaying for Chairman Pike the problem as it appears to the
Chairman at this time.
3. Mr. Slatinshek then called Chairman Pike and briefed
him on his conversations with Mr. BeLieu and raised the question
of the appearance of scheduled witnesses before the Committee
starting on Tuesday. After this conversation was completed, Mr.
Slatinshek advised that Admiral Moore and possibly the Navy JAG
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would be appearing on Tuesday and he was now making a formal
request for the Chairman for Mr. Helms to appear in open session
on Wednesday, 5 March. Mr. Slatinshek noted, in all probability
after whatever prepared statement the Director would care to make,
the Chairman would move the hearing into executive session for a
possibly more detailed presentation and questioning.
4. I discussed the question of the hearings and the Director's
appearance at some length and emphasized the problems inherent
in the DCI's appearance in an open session even if only to present
a prepared statement.
5. In discussion, Mr. Slatinshek pointed out that the Chair-
man and the members of the Committee feel strongly that there has
been a serious compromise of American electronic gear and equip-
ment and that the compromise appears to be the result of either
personal failure at the command level or the failure of the system
of review and approval of such missions. They feel that if the former
is involved, the individual or individuals should be removed or if
the failure involves the system in use, that the system should be
changed immediately.
6. I talked later with Mr. Blandford and with Mr. Blandford
and Mr. Slatinshek together and received additional emphasis that
Chairman Rivers and Chairman Pike are in concert on the hearings
and that Mr. Pike has unanimous approval of his members with
regard to the planned conduct of the hearing.
7. Later in the day, Mr. Maury was advised that Chairman
Pike had agreed to hear the Director in closed session. This infor-
mation was confirmed by Mr. Slatinshek.
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13. Called on Chairman L. Mendel Rivers, House
Armed Services Committee, and explained to him why we had misgivings
about appearing before Representative Pike's Subcommittee on Inquiry of
USS Pueblo which we understood was in prospect. Mr. Rivers said there
was no problem, that "Pike is a good man--I put him in charge of that job"
and we should "tell him all we know." He added that since we had little
or nothing to do with the Pueblo, there was no reason for concern. (Frank
Slatinshek, of the Committee staff, tells us in confidence that the hearings
are mainly a headline-hunting operation.)
In response to my question regarding the upcoming Agency appearance
before the full Armed Services Committee on 18 March, Mr. Rivers said:
a. The hearing will probably last from 1000 to 1230 hours.
b. Items covered should include Soviet and ChiCom strategic
weapons and general military strength and posture; Eastern Europe;
Middle East; Vietnam; and Korea. The Chairman indicated there
would also be questions on the Pueblo and Cuba.
c. Noting that there are several new members of the Committee
"all fine men", the Chairman said he wanted them to "get the full
treatment" and also have an opportunity to ask questions.
The Chairman recommended that the basic briefing be limited to about an
hour and a half to allow ample time for questions.
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4. Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House
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equipment in Syria; ChiCom construction
of attack submarines and Soviet development of surface-to-air short
range missile system.
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Bray, House Post Office Manpower Subcommittee, made an appoint-
for a
at 2:00 p.m.,
merit for
personnel interview with
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of Naval Intelligence Piot, for information on security clearances of
J. R. Blandford and Frank Slatinsnek, House Armed Services Committee
staff, The Lieutenant was referred to Departmented Information Branch,
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Branch. Lt.
Secretary
7.
Service at
on War Control
and of DIA Security and Clearances
Argubright was reierred
of Defense for Legislative
to our Office by the Assistant
Affairs.
vIiss Lazu.tin, of the Legislative Reference
called and requested information
and the Citizens Committee for
the Library of Congress,
Plans, Incorporated,
Global Safety. I informed Miss Lazutin that the Agency has no jurisdiction
over domestic organizations and that she should call the Federal Bureau
of Investigation.
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Evelyn Carson, in the office of Representative
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\Iew
York, who wanted to set up a meeting
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his client's wife would cooperate with
the Agency in order to kill a Federal
criminal indictment against her
husband. Ultimately, as arranged
by Miss Carson, I informed
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OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
ThursdaY - 27 February 1969
1. Delivered to Mr. Carl Marcy and
Mr. Arthur Kuhl, Senate Foreign Relations Committee, copies
Number 1 and 2 of the transcript of the Director's briefing of Wednes-
day, 26 February. Arrangements were made to recover the tran-
scripts late in the afternoon and to return them to the Committee at
such time as may be desired by the Chairman.
2. Met with Chairman L. Mendel Rivers,
who advised that he is scheduling the Director for a worldwide roundup
for Tuesday, 18 March, before the full Armed Services Committee.
The Chairman noted that he would be requesting Secretary Laird to
start the posture briefings on Tuesday, 25 March, and wanted the
Director beforehand. Rivers requested that the necessary details
be worked out with Mr. Blandford and expressed the hope that this
time would be an acceptable one for Mr. Eielms.
The date was later confirmed with Mr. Blandford.
3. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel,
j-louse Armed Services Committee, and in response to his question of
yesterday, advised that the 303 Committee is one established by the
White House and that information relating to membership, functions,
and duties should properly be provided by the White House. Mr.
Slatinshek was informally advised as to the proper point of contact in
the White House staff.
Mr. Slatinshek called at the conclusion of this morning's
hearings by the Pike Pueblo Subcommittee and advised that it is his
sense of Chairman Pike's remarks that the DCI be called as a witness
before the Committee. Although this is not a formal notification,
Mr. Slatinshek indicated that the Director will be requested to appear
Wednesday morning, 5 March. I talked to Mr. Slatinshek again late
in the day and he advised that although no further formal consideration
of the matter was had during the day, the Wednesday date will probably
be requested by the Chairman.
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17. Received a call from Mr. Frank Slatinshek
on behalf of Representative Otis Pike, Chairman of the House Armed,
Services Special Subcommittee on the Pueblo. Mr. Slatinshek requested
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the names and official titles of the members of the 303 Committee. I
thanked Mr. Slatinshek for his call and advised that I would relay his
query and be back in touch with 11m as soon as possible. The Director
and Mr. Kenneth BeLieu, of the White House Staff, have been advised.
18. Without confirming the fact of Agency
employment o ner, I checked. witli Miss Barbara Burris, on the staff of
Representative Dante B. Fascell CD. , Fla.), to be sure that contact had
been made with Miss Burris advised that
had called them and they very much appreciated our assistance.
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staff of the senate Appropriations Committee, and advised him that
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in whom Senator Richard Russell (D.. Ga. 1 had an interest, was entering
on duty with the Agency tomorrow.
Mr. Woodruff said he was extremely pleased to hear this and said he
would ensure that Senator Russell is advised.
20. George Murphy, on the staff of the
Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, called to say that one of the members
was pressing Edward Bauser for detailed information on the Soviet FOBs
program. Mr. Murphy asked if we would have a knowledgeable individual
brief Mr. Bauser and himself tomorrow. These arrangements are being
made.
21. Hand carried to Kathy Nelson, on the staff
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Senator Stuart Symington (D. , Mo.), the full names and addresses of Messrs.
as requested by Senator Symington for
the purpose of thank you notes. I also left with Miss Nelson an FBIS item
containing a comment on Senator Symington's recent trip to Europe and
the Middle East.
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Monday - 24 February 1969
1. At the request of Larry Conrad,
Chief Counsel, Senate Subcommittee on Constitution-1 Amendments
made a new appointment with
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3. Met with Miss Oneta Stockstill,
Executive Secretary, House Armed Services Committee staff, who
advised that the Chairman has called a meeting of the full Committee
for Wednesday, 26 February, to determine the composition of the
Special Subcommittee of Armed Services. It was also learned, sepa-
rately, that the Special Subcommittee to conduct hearings on the Pueblo
would be meeting during the day. No public announcement has been
made concerning today's hearing.
4. Met with Representative William Bray
(R., Ind.) and advised that the scheduled Agency visit for off-campus
recruiting at the University of Indiana has been canceled at the request
of the University. In brief Mr. Bray advised that he well understands
the University's desire to avoid further publicity during the seating of
the legislature. He also expressed his personal appreciation for this
advice since he had intended to pursue the matter on another course
during the week.
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Blandford, Chief Counsel, am se Armed Services Committee. on behalf
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Director's briefing of the JCAE
was a good
Committee
session. He felt the Director's
was thorough.
coverage of material for the
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Met with Mr.
Frank Slatinshek, Assistant
Chief Counsel,
House Armed, Servj.ces_committee,
and briefed him con-
cerning the
Soviet's Komar Class patrol boats furnished North Korea
and the visit
of Soviet naval vessels to
Guinea and Nigeria.
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Closed
out an applicant case with
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by informing
Bourne, in th
enator Charles H. Percy (R.,
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had called
Personnel,
late yesterday a ternoon an
was advised that the employment
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than it was on 1 November when
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Edwin D. Eshleman (R., Pa.), called in connection with an applicant,
She said the Congressman had just called her long-
distance from the district and was ab o ut to write General Gross, of the
draft board, a letter requesting that L I1ot be drafted until the Agency 25X1
completed its security processing. I informed Mrs. Heinzel that it was
not the policy of the Agency to request draft deferments unless the employ-
ment of the individual was vital to the success of our mission, but offered
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Later, based on the advice of Personnel, I advised
Mrs. Heinzel that we were in the process or preparing a letter to
informing him that he had not been selected for a position and explained that
the reason was that we had better qualified candidates. I also told her that
we would not request a deferment for an individual serving in the position
for which as being considered. She thanked us for our quick
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10. Delivered a blind memorandum on
the general background of to Donald Appell, Chief
Investigator, House Committee on Internal Security.
11. Delivered the Agency information
brochure and the U.S. News & World Report Raborn interview to Sharon
Sosnick, in the office of Representative John C. Culver (D., Iowa), for
use in response to a constituent
12. Informed Roy Carlson, Ad
Assistant to Representative Julia Hansen (D., Washington), that
a constituent who had sought employment with the Agency,
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Staff Director, Senate Subcommittee on Constitutional Amendments, made
an appointment for a personnel interview for at 10:00 a. m. 25X1
tomorrow.
14. Talked to Mr. Norman Poirier,
Assistant General Counsel, ACDA, and ciscussed with him in some length,
the various provisions of the Ervin bill. Mr. Poirier is currently doing a
review of the bill. Mr. Poirier seemed to appreciate the considerations
pointed out concerning right of counsel and court review and indicated that
their office would look closer at the appellate procedure for an independent
board review.
15.
ho called on behalf of Re
Talked to Mr. Bruce Merkle,
resentative William Bray (R., Ind.), concerning
It was notea
that lack of U.S. citizenship would be a bar to normal staff employment
in the Agency.
Mr. Merkle advised that Representative Bray has been appointed
senior minority member on the Pueblo Special Subcommittee, House Armed
Services Committee.
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for the White House, returned my earlier call and I told him of our activities
in connection with the Ervin bill (S. 782). I mentioned the fact that Messrs.
Hampton and Modello, of the Civil Service Commission, shared our concern,
that Mr. Houston and I were hoping to see Senator Ervin in the next few days,
and I would also be seeing Representative Henderson. Mr. BeLieu said he
would like to hear from us further after we talked to Senator Ervin.
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David N. Henderson, House Post Office and Civil Service Committee, called
to say that the Chairman could see me at 9:30 a. m. on Friday, 21 February.
10. Met with Mr. J. R. Blandford, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, and provided a copy of a blind memoran-
dum entitled, "The Changing Strategic Naval Balance, USSR vs US." Mr.
Blandford was most appreciative and indicated that it would be included in
the Sea Power Subcommittee reference file for their guidance.
Mr. Blandford advised that he is working with the Chairman during
the day on the organization of the various special subcommittees and that
the CIA Subcommittee, in all probability, will continue as it was constituted
for the brief hearing on the Pueblo on January 6.
Mr. Blandford was very interested in, and personally in accord with
the Agency determination that Agency documents, such as the NIS's, not
be furnished to committees of Congress. He also indicated his appreciation
for being advised of this determination since there is the ready possibility
that such a question would come to the attention of the Chairman. See Journal
item of 12 February 1969.
I briefed Mr. Blandford on East German travel restrictions to Berlin,
the Soviet collective leadership question, a limited Soviet ground forces demo-
bilization, anticipated Soviet space activities and present assessment of
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MEMORANDUM FOR: Director of Strategic Research
SUBJECT
3 February 1969
Review of Document, "The Changing Strategic
Naval Balance, USSR vs US"
1. The Changing Strategic Naval Balance, USSR vs US, was
prepared for The House Committee on Armed Services and published
in December 1968. It was prepared by a select subcommittee of
the National Strategy Committee, American Security Council. The
document was prepared from unclassified sources and in most
instances the facts presented are accurate. Both in the discussion
of US posture and in that of the Soviet navy, the details appear
to have been chosen carefully so as to show the Soviet threat in
the strongest terms possible. Probably the most misleading
technique, which occurred repeatedly, was the measure of relative
military capability in terms of numbers of ships and their ages.
As a result the document represents a serious overstatement of
the Soviet naval threat.
? 2. The following are specific comments related to each
subsection of the document:
a. Order of Battle -- The Subcommittee noted that
such figures when derived from unclassified sources probably
would be low. Such was the case for the 00B for Soviet cruisers,
destroyers and minecraft. Submarine and missile patrol boat
strengths, however, are accurate. Helicopter carrier strength
is high by one unit; moreover, these units are carried as
amphibious assault ships.
b. Naval Objectives -- This section presents an
accurate generalization of Soviet intentions that is inaccurate
in detail. There is no argument with the developing offensive
nature of Soviet maritime strategy and the desire for supremacy
at sea. That is missing is an understanding of where and how
this power will be used. The authors assume a global employment
along the lines of the US analogue yet the Soviets give no indica-
tion of developing the strike amphibious force or the carrier task
force -- two major ways in which the US projects naval power.
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Also the authors stress the youthof Soviet forces but avoid point-
ing out or discussing the few ships in the Soviet navy with any
capability for global employment. Thus, it is highly misleading
to mention a sweep into the Middle East or that the USSR dominates
the central land mass.
Undue emphasis has been placed on the limited and
relatively unimportant maritime rate cutting activity that
occurred recently. The USSR cannot use its maritime fleet in this
manner and meet its own transportation needs. Even the current
plan goal for a fleet of 20 million tons by 1980 is not expected
to change this situation nor increase the relative standing of the
fleet. To have the largest merchant navy in the world by 1980,
as the authors assert, would require drastic upward revisions of
shipbuilding programs and purchases abroad.
c. Undersea Forces -- The authors have been less than.
honest in their presentation of the submarine threat -- the main
combat element of the Soviet navy. By indicating a numerical and
age superiority for Soviet submarines, a construction rate
substantially higher than is these, and the lag in US ASW
capabilities without a balanced discussion of relative capabilities
results in a gross overstatement and inaccurate assessment of the
threat.
d. Surface Forces -- This section provide3a more
reasonable discussion of the main elements of the surface forces
than was the case for submarines. Yet, errors and exaggeration
combine to overstate the threat. The assumption of a strike
amphibious capability is based upon the mistaken identification
of the helicopter carrier in this role. Of lesser magnitude,
the range of Kresta's missile has been confused with that for the
cruise-missile submarines. For Osa-Komar, the discussion presents
a preposterous comparison with IRBM's and implies that these ships
comprise a strategic defensive weapon system.
e. Merchant Marine -- The comparisons presented in
this section do not tell the whole story. Most Soviet merchant
ships acquired before 1959 are small and slow and cannot compete
with Western maritime fleets. In many respects these older ships
are comparable to those we have in reserve. Neither the reserve
ships nor those flying flags of convenience are included in the
US shipping totals. One detail is in error. The Soviets have
mentioned the nuclear icebreaker ARTIKA in the press although
construction of this ship has not yet begun.
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f. Remaining Sections -- There are no important problems
with the discussion of the Mediterranean or the Pacific. However,
the perspective for the Indian Ocean is overstated, partly because
of the authors assumptions regarding Soviet amphibious capabilities
and partly because their discussion of Soviet naval ships is limited
to aggregate totals. In the oceanographic section, the two ships
from East Germany are actually the world's largest ships designed
specifically for oceanographic research. The strike amphibious
capability is stressed again in the section on ocean supremacy.
In that section also is an inaccurate and misleading discussion
of why the Soviets are pursuing an offensive strategy -- with a
repetition of the Soviet numerical superiority in submarines and
an implication that constant SSBN patrols are off the US coast. In
another part of the same section, a statement that a Soviet naval
visit resulted in political change in Iraq is unsupported by
evidence.
3. The net effect of overstatement is to create a false
impression of Soviet naval capabilities. None of the limitations
on these capabilities has been discussed, with the result that a
future threat is presented as though it were a current threat.
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Monday - 17 February 1969
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2. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek,
Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, and discussed in some
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detail an understanding of Committee members' reactions to various
congressional and travel activities of congressional factfinding missions.
Mr. Slatinshek was candid in his personal opinion that these are areas
that the Agency would be well to avoid except through established Sub-
committee channels. I briefed Mr. Slatinshek on Dress reactions and
claims of assessment of
East German harassment of Berlin traffic; Soviet leadership situation;
and evidence of Soviet demobilization since withdrawal of forces from
Czechoslovakia.
3. Talked to Mr. Bruce Merkle,
Administrative Assistant to Representative William Bray, concerning
current employment prospects in the Agency for a young man who
failed out of college after one year and who is the son of a close friend
of Representative Bray. Mr. Merkle indicated that he is sure Mr. Bray
will recommend against application but wanted to verify his own under-
standing prior to responding.
4.
Received a call from Miss King,
in the office of Representative Gus Yatron (D., Pa.), who requested an
employment interview for After checking with
Office of Personnel, I advisec Miss King that an
appointment has been scheduled for Tuesday, 25 February at 1:30.
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Friday - 14 February 1969
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6. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel, House
Armed Services Committee, and d.,scussed with him the OSR /TF review
of the document, "The C an.ging Strategic Naval Balance, USSR vs US. "
Mr. Slatinshek found it most interesting and said that it would be well to
go over it with Mr. Blandford on hIs return on Monday.
At Mr. Slatinshek's request, I checked with OCI and relayed available
information on the Peruvian seizure c):, an American fishing vessel, The
Mariner, and the alleged firing on the San Juan.
7. Received a call from Miss Sue Tinajero,
Senate Foreign Relations Committee staff, concerning an inquiry received
by the Committee staff from a Washington Evening Star writer, Bryan
Kelly, for point of contact in the Agency for possible information on the
recent 83 Cuban defectors. After checking with Mr. Goodwin, I advised
Miss Tinajero that the escapes had taken place through Guantanamo and
that contact on the matter should be made with the Department of the Navy.
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Subcommittee on Manpower and Civil Service staff, who advised that Chair-
man Henderson will be returning to the city around noon on Monday. He
also advised that Chairman Henderson will be addressing a Department of
Defense employee organi/zation in downtown Washington on Tuesday.
Contained in the addresI will be some rather uncomplimentary remarks
about the Ervin bill (S. 82). I thanked Mr. Hugler for the information and
advised him we plan to' meet with Mr. Henderson early in the week.
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Appropriations Committee staff, wno advised that there is little possibility
of the follow-up meeting with Chairman Mahon and the CIA Subcommittee
for the next two weeks. Mr. Lipscomb plans to leave the city on Monday
night or Tuesday and will be away at least ten days.
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Friday - 14 February 1969
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10. Delivered to Miss Roberts,
in the office of Representative J. J. Pickle (D., Texas), material
from. the Congressional Record and House Armed Services Committee
hearings on Gary Powers for use in response to a constituent.
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to a constituent,
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of Senator Alan Cranston (D., Calif.), a suggested reply
who had inquired about the Agency's
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Delivered to Mrs. Anderson, in the
office of Representative John Paul
Hammer schmidt (R. , Ark.), the
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a constituent, who
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Talked to Mr. Clifford Gaucher,
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who advised that he will be travc.lin?x on the second portion of his fellow-
ship grant as soon as he receives final approval from Mr. Philbin and
may call for additional briefing on India, Thailand and Japan.
'JOHN M. MAURY
Legislative Counsel
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9. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel, House
Armed Services Committee, and reviewed some of the details of yesterday's
briefing. He again remarked about the enjoyment of meeting with our people
and noted that he is confident that the various legislative considerations can
be worked out without undue difficulty. I briefed him concerning
Communist intent to launch a series of attacks throughout South Vietnam
in connection with the Tet holiday period; ChiCom
and', a recent movement of the Soviet fighter regiment to the
Manchurian border area.
10. By way of follow-up to the conversation
with Mrs. Dunlevy, I talked with Albert A. (Peter) Lakeland,on the staff of
Senator Jacob Javits (R. , N. Y.), about a meeting between the Director and
Senator Javits on Monday at 2:00 p.m. The purpose of this meeting is to
brief the Senator on the Middle East situation. Mr. Lakeland said he had
not talked directly with the Senator about this meeting but expected to be
talking with him tomorrow. At that time he will attempt to determine the
specific areas of the Senator's interest and will let us know. He saw no
objection to the Director bringing a Middle East expert with him and added
that he would also like to attend the briefing.
Lakeland said he was not aware of any specific plan on the
Senator's part to travel to the Middle East, although, he has seriously been
considering such a trip with Senator John Sherman Cooper (R. , Ky. ) for
some time. He pointed out that,since Senator Cooper was sympathetic to
the Arabs and Senator Javits was sympathetic to the Israelis, they thought
it might be useful for the two of them to travel to the Middle East together
in view of their close friendship for one another. They feel any recommenda-
tions they might make following such a trip may be useful to the President
particularly if they can agree on some common ground for a possible solution
to the Middle East crisis., Senators Javits and Cooper have apparently
discussed the possibility of such a trip with President Nixon. Lakeland said
he would be back in touch with us after he had an opportunity to determine
from Senator Javits what his precise area of interest is regarding the
Middle East.
U. Hand carried to Majority Leader Mike
Mansfield's office an FBIS item containing a Moscow broadcast relating to
Senator Mansfield's position on the problem of hijacking of aircraft to Cuba.
12.
Hand carried to the Joint Committee on Atomic
Ener our response to Ed Bauser's letter on
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OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Wednesday - 12 February 1969
1. Following earlier conversation, I
called Mr. Thad Murray, Administrative Assistant to Senator William
Spong (D. , Va.) to say that we had no evidence that the Soviet fishing
vessels off the Virginia coast were especially equipped for, or
primarily engaged in, technical intelligence collection. I said that
presumably certain personnel on these vessels had been briefed on
intelligence "targets of opportunity," and that crews of such vessels
often include regular naval personnel, but that from present indications
this fleet was primarily engaged in fishing operations.
2. Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel, House
Armed Services Committee, visited the Agency and was briefed during
the day on the Agency retirement system, personnel policies, Agency
organization structure and projected Agency needs for personnel
legislation. Present from the Agency were Messrs. John M. Maury,
John S. Warner, Robert Wattles,
Colonel White hosted at lunc .
After lunch, Mr. Slatinshek received a 45-minute briefing on FMSAC
by Mr. David Brandwein. Mr. Slatinshek's observations and questions
were not only pertinent but evidenced a very favorable disposition
towards the Agency, its activities and needs, See Memorandum for
the Record.
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request that we a rove transmittal of NIS' s to the Foreign Affairs
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position against t is particularly since this suggestion originated in the
State Department. We will mention to Russ Blandford, on the staff of
the House Armed Services Committee, that we have taken this position
regarding dissemination of NIS' s to this committee.
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Headquarters Briefing of Frank M. Slatinshek
1. Frank M. Slatinshek, Counsel, House Armed Services Committee
and the staff member designated to handle CIA Retirement Act amendments,
attended a briefing at the Agency for the primary purpose of acquainting him
with the background, purpose, and foreseeable legislative needs of the CIA
Retirement Act. The attached program, including Agency attendees, was
substantially followed. Colonel White hosted at lunch.
2. Highlights of the session which started at 10:00 a.m. and ended
at 2:00 p.m.:
a. Mr. Wattles presented an overview of the Agency's
personnel programs and policies. Mr. Slatinshek was particularly interested
in identifying the decision points within the Agency for allocating personnel
resources and grades and the extent of the Bureau of the Budget's interest
and authority in this area.
b. During Mr. Warner's presentation on Agency organization,
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the Inspector General function; communications (in general, in light of notable
failures in military communications and,
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c. Slatinshek raised the question whether the categorical
answer given at the Committee's first executive session hearing on the
Pueblo on 6 January 1969 that the Agency was not involved in the operation
of the Pueblo could be squared with Agency participation or presence on
interagency boards dealing with matters like the Pueblo. Mr. Maury pointed
out that while such participation indicated "awareness" we had no part in the
management or control of the Pueblo, and, in response to Slatinshek's
question, that the Pueblo did not have an intelligence requirement levied by
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the Agency. Mr. Maury also discussed the background of the Director's
recent letter to Senator Symington which was published in the Congressional
Record. Slatinshek appeared to appreciate the susceptibility of misinterpre-
tation as well as the sensitivity involved had the letter not been categorical.
3. Slatinshek appeared to readily absorb the evolution of the CIA
Retirement Act, the problems inherent in its ultimate enactment and the
desirability of considering alternate approaches in keeping it up-to-date
with major improvements enacted for other Federal staff retirement
systems. He felt that the Committee members would be jealous of their
jurisdictional prerogatives and against enlarging the Director's authority
to permit him to adopt features of other retirement systems. He said this
would also cause problems on the House floor and very serious problems
in the Senate. However, he personally felt that with appropriate safeguards
the Committee would permit us to ride piggyback on Administration-approved
amendments to the Civil Service Retirement Act if this could be arranged
with the Post Office and Civil Service Committee, and with the understanding
that that Committee would not delve into ungermane matters. As an alterna-
tive he also appeared to be willing to consider the possibility of incorporating
civil service changes into the CIA Act by reference. He suggested that these
matters be taken up in a Subcommittee briefing, although he recognizes such
action now would be premature in the absence of active consideration in the
Congress of a major change in the Civil Service retirement system.
4. The 14 possible amendments to the CIA Retirement Act, as attached,
were briefly reviewed with Slatinshek. He had no major problem with them,
but was interested in their actuary impact on the CIA Retirement Fund.
5. Slatinshek was interested in the Director's authority to terminate
personnel and the effectiveness of present statutes in deterring the unauthorized
publication of classified material.
6. Slatinshek proposed that we give consideration to briefing the CIA
Subcommittee on the Agency's general tasks, problems, and efforts. In
this connection he views the Subcommittee as the Agency's Board of Directors.
It was clear that, while not in as great detail, he was thinking of something
along the lines of the Agency proceeding as if it were seeking an authorization
for appropriations. He felt that there will be a continuing effort to create a
Joint Committee on Intelligence and that the members of our Subcommittee
are not as well-informed on the Agency as they should be. Mr. Warner
replied that the Agency has been trying to do just this and Slatinshek recognized
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that the problem might be on the Committee's side. This matter was again
raised at lunch and Colonel White restated the Agency's past and continuing
interest in briefing the Subcommittee more frequently and more fully on
Agency programs, but distinguished between this type of briefing and the
budget briefing of Chairman Mahon's Subcommittee.
7. Following lunch, accompanied
Slatinshek to a briefing by Mr. David Brandwein, FMSAC, which went very
well.
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for Mr. Slatinshek and the Agency. While completely understanding and
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AGENDA
Wednesday Febru.ary 1969
Headquarters Briefing
Frank M. Sla.tinshek
Counsel, House Armed Services Committee
(Staff member designated to handle
CIA Retirement Act amendments)
Purpose: To acquaint Slatinshek with the background, purpose, and
foreseeable legislative needs of the CIA Retirement Act and
discuss alternative legislative approaches to getting the job
done on the House side.
Schedule
DD/S Conference Room
10:00 - Mr. Robert Wattles (overview of Agency personnel policy)
Attending: Messrs. Maury, Warner,
10:15 - Mr. John S. Warner (Agency organization and history of
CIA Retirement Act and related
matters)
Followed by a working session to identify specific amend-
ments required and to discuss legislative approaches.
Attending: Messrs.
Executive Dining Room
12:30 - Lunch
Attending: Messrs. Maury, Warner
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Wednesday - 12 February 1969
1. Following earlier conversation, I
called Mr. Thad Murray, Administrative Assistant to Senator William
Spong (D. , Va. ) to say that we had no evidence that the Soviet fishing
vessels off the Virginia coast were especially equipped for, or
primarily engaged in, technical intelligence collection. I said that
presumably certain personnel on these vessels had been briefed on
intelligence "targets of opportunity," and that crews of such vessels
often include regular na7val personnel, but that from present indications
this fleet was primarily engaged in fishing operations.
2. Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel, House
Armed Services Committee, visited the Agency and was briefed during
the day on the Agency retirement system, personnel policies, Agency
organization structure and projected Agency needs for personnel
legislation. Present from the Agency were Messrs. John M. Maury,
John S. Warner, Robert Wattles,
3. In connection with the State Department
request that we approve transmittal of NIS' s to the Foreign Affairs
Committee, of DDI, indicated their agreement with our
position against this particularly since this suggestion originated in the
State Department. We will mention to Russ Blandford, on the staff of
the House Armed Services Committee, that we have taken this position
regarding dissemination of NIS' s to this committee.
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Tuesday - 11 February 1969
6. Met with Mr. J. R. Blandford, Chief
Counsel, louse Armed Services Committee and received from him
a copy of his Memorandum for Record of Conversation on Thursday
with Commander Nikolay K. Vysotskiy, Naval Attache, Embassy of
U.S.S.R. Mr. Blandford advised that no further discussions have been
had with the Chairman on the organization of the CIA Subcommittee. I
briefed Mr. Blandford on several items of current interest. See Memo-
randum for the Record.
7. Talked to Miss Weyforth, in the
office of Representative James W. Symington (D., Mo.), who was interested
in determining whether the Agency had a prepared rejoinder to the allegations
by such groups as SDS concerning the Agency. She explained that they were
receiving numerous inquiries from parents who wanted to be sure that their
children were getting a balanced picture. I explained our general policy
pertaining to such comments, but said I would send her a pamphlet on the
Agency which may help to fill the fact-vacuum and a reprint of the Raborn
"U.S. News and World Report" interview. This apparently will satisfy her
needs for the present, and she requested ten copies of each sometime
tomorrow morning, if at all possible.
8. and I visited the office of
Senator William B. Spong to deliver and explain to his Legislative Assistant,
Miss Carolyn Naff, background material on Middle East countries the Senator
plans to visit during his upcoming trip. Also talked to the Senator's
Administrative Assistant, Mr. Thad Murray, who was concerned about Soviet
fishing activity off the Virginia coast. Briefed Mr. Murray on general
nature and scope of Soviet fishing operations and offered to check on any
evidence that the Soviet fleet in ,question was engaged in technical intelligence
collection.
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MELVIN PRIC', ILL.
0. C. FIgHER,IEX.
CHARLES E. BENNETT, FLA.
JAMES A. BYRNE, PA.
SAMUEL S. STRATTON, N.Y.
OTIS G. PIKE, N.Y.
RIV-IARD H. !CHORD, MO.
LUCIEN N. NEDZI, MICH.
ALTON LENNON, N.C.
WILLIAM J. RANDALL, MO.
G. ELLIOTT HAGAN, GA.
CHARLES H. WILSON, CALIF.
ROBERT L. LEGGETT, CALIF.
FLOYD V. HICKS, WASH.
SPEEDY 0. LONG, LA.
RICHARD C. WHITE, TEX.
BILL NICHOLS, ALA.
JACK BRINKLEY, GA.
ROBERT H. MOLLOHAN, W. VA.
W. C. (DAN) DANIEL, VA.
JORGE L. CORDOVA. PUERTO RICO
31)ouoe at Reprefientatibto
COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES
aobington, As.C. 20515
NINETY-FIRST CONGRESS
L. MEN DEL RIVERS, CHAIRMAN
70bruarr 'JO 1969
WSWORANDUM FOR THE MORD
IMIL.1-1011.1 ri? MIAS,
LESLIE C. ARENDS, ILL.
ALVIN E. 0.KONSKI, WIS.
WILLIAM G. BRAY, IND.
BOB WILSON, CALIF.
CHARLES S. GUBSER, CALIF.
CHARLES E. CHAMBERLAIN, MICH.
ALEXANDER PIRNIE, N.Y.
DURWARD G. HALL, MO.
DONALD D. CLANCY, OHIO
ROBERT T. STAFFORD, VT.
CARLETON J. KING, N.Y.
WILLIAM L. DICKINSON, ALA.
CHARLES W. WHALEN, JR., OHIO
ED FOREMAN, N. MEX.
JOHN E. HUNT, N.I.
G. WILLIAM WHITEHURST, VA.
STAFF
JOHN R. BLANDFORD, CHIEF COUNSEL
FRANK M. SLATINSHEK, ASSISTANT CHIEF COUNSEL
EARL J. MORGAN, PROFESSIONAL STAFF MEMBER
WILLIAM H. COOK, COUNSEL
RALPH MARSHALL, PROFESSIONAL STAFF MEMBER
JOHN J. FORD, PROFESSIONAL STAFF MEMBER
GEORGE NORRIS, COUNSEL
JAMES F. SHUMATE, JR., [WESEL
MARY JO SOTTILE, COUNSEL
ONETA L. STOCKSTILL, EXECUTIVE SECRETARY
Commander o K. VyanT, tiy? Assistant Naval Attache,
labassy of the USSR, callpd onglc-: At 2:50 p. 6 February and wante,1
to get a copy of the document upin which Ted Sellibased his article
about blocking the ARM system, 1-11-Th appeared in the Washington Post
of 6 February 1969.
I told him we had wrLtteri a 1tter to t
and than I told him what the Depatment of Defen
response to inquiries, which is -Is follows:
The Sentinel system is 1.4ag reviewed as part of otu
major 'weapons systems. review is continuing on a priority
?ecretary Laird hopes Wit this review will be completed
5Certain aspects of the
erred, such as the acquisitin
actions were taken last wee per)
ins conducted under the superv_.
David Packard.
nel programrecently have been de-
,es and site construction. Theme
completion of the review studies
of Deputy Secretary. of Defense
"At the same time 0 had directed the appropriate
offices in 00D and the: Departme ,y.1!the Army to continue to move
forward without interruption on .>11 research and development aspects
related to anti-missile defense.
Commander Vyaotshly then ,).$ ced if he
that might come out on the ARK s;rstom and
portant to his government. I said we had no
the AMSI system or what Laird or President w
told him I realised it was a te of vest ?once
as it is a great concern to us.
document
very Lo-
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I then said that I per ,ally wee not concerned about the
Soviet threat, because we could eliminate each other quite easily,
to which he agreed. I said that we were both threatened by the
Chinese and when the Chinese got the delivery capability, they would
bliekmeil the world. Be agreed.
He said he hoped our ovrment would be able to cocmunicete
with the Chinese government. I to4 him I thought it was more likely
that his government could cuicate with theCChinese. Be shook his
head and said, "Oh, no!" I said why then did the Chinese government
permit the Soviets to send war eateriale through their country into
North Vietnam. He shook his heed and said be did not know because he
could not express what Mao Tee Tung's thoughts were, but he thought
the Chinese permitted thin because it probably helped them.
He asked if he could come hack for aay documents we m, gbt have
on the ABM system later. I told him any public documents we produced
he was welcome to see.
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Received a call from Mr. William
Sullivan, in the office ot Representative
Glenard P. Lipscomb (R., Calif.),
who advised that after receiving the FBIS White Book for a trial period,
it has been decided not to subscribe. He did request, however, the West
German section of the 7 February White Book. FBIS has been advised
and the material
is being provided.
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Investigator,
House Committee
on Un-American Activities, for Messrs.
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office of Representative Clarence E. Miller (R., Ohio), about a letter.
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Subcommittee on Internal Security, called to request information on
with whom Jack Norpel, of the Subcommittee,
I said I would check and be back in touch with
expects to be in touch.
Sourwine.
5. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, and arranged to pick him up at 9:30
tomorrow morning to visit the Agency for briefing on the retirement pro-
? gram and Agency personnel policies.
In addition, I briefed Mr. Slatinshek on several items of
current interest. See Memorandum for the Record for the items covered.
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Briefing Items - House Armed Services Committee
Met with Mr. J. R. Blandford, Chief Counsel, and Frank
Slatinshek, Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, separately,
and briefed them on the items attached to this Memorandum.
JGO:kef (18 Feb 69)
Distribution:
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$? . Office of Security, met
with Mr. Robert Michaels, of the House Appropriations Committee staff,
and changed the combination on Mr. Michaels' safe. It had been some
time since this combination had been changed.
Mr. Michaels noted that in conversation with Mr. Helms before
the briefing yesterday, they had discussed the recent Senate document
from Senator Jackson's Subcommittee, entitled "Specialists and Generalists,
a Selection of Readings." Mr. Michaels advised that he had located a copy
and sent it along for Mr. Helms.
I briefed Mr. Michaels on Soviet development of the Syrian port
of Tartus and the forthcoming U.S. /ChiCom meeting in Warsaw.
9. Met with Mr. Bun Benton Bray, Director,
House Subcommittee on Manpower and Civil Service, and discussed with
him the Ervin bill and the companion bill by Charles Wilson (D., Calif.).
Mr. Bray advised in essence that Mr. Henderson in recent conversations
has indicated that three points or areas of consideration need to be re-
done in the Ervin bill. These are (1) protection of national security inter-
ests, (2) the relationship between supervisor and employee, and (3) the
appellate procedures. Mr. Bray and the staff plan some work in this
area during the coming week in order to have at least a working paper
ready for Mr. Henderson's review on his return to the city on the 17th of
February.
10 ? Met with Mr. J. R. Blandford, House Armed
Services Committee, and discussed with him reported observations by
Representative fchord concerning HCUA and possible Armed Services
Committee interest in testimony by Mr. Blandford noted
that there must be some garble in the information and that Mr. Ichord
does not chair a subcommittee that would have even remote interest in
such testimony. Mr. Blandford requested that I pick up the copies of his
on Monday.
such that it may
Although it was dictated yesterday, their workload is
not be transcribed until Monday.
I briefed Mr. Blandford on Soviet development of facilities of
the Syrian port of Tartus and the forthcoming U.S. /ChiCom meeting in
Warsaw on 20 February.
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Thursday - 6 February 1969
1. George Murphy, on the staff of the
Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, called to say that the Committee
would like to have the Director come up for his briefing on Thursday,
20 February, at 10:00 a.m. He suggested that to the extent possible
the Director's narrative be held down to a one-hour presentation in
order to allow sufficient time for questions and answers. After
checking with the Director's office, I informed Murphy that this date
was acceptable to us.
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be willing to talk with him if he called.
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9. Due to the press of other activities, Mr.
Robert Michaels, House Appropriations Committee staff, requested
that we put off until tomorrow morning at ten o'clock the changing of
his safe combination. Arrangements are being completed with the
Office of Security to meet with Mr. Michaels at that time.
11. Met with Mr. J. R. Blandford, Counsel,
,House Armed Services Committee, and confirmed with him the arrange-
ments to date for forwarding certain personal effects of Admiral
Taylor's to the Admiral on 13 February.
12. Received a call from Mr. Bruce
Merkle, Administrative Assistant to Representative William Bray
(R., Id.), concerning John Lofton of the Republican Congressional
Committee staff. Mr. Lofton had earlier made certain requests to
the Director of FBIS which suggested the necessity for verification of
Mr. Lofton's status with the Republican Congressional Committee.
13. Carl Blake, Administrative Assistant
to Representative Donald W.Riegle (R. , Mich.), called to say that he
would like to talk to George Carver concerning Riegle's itinerary in the
Far East. I arranged for Carver to call Blake.
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Page 2
5, Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House
Appropriations Committee staff, who advised that he had had no fur-
ther queries or suggestions from Chairman Mahon concerning topics
for the Director's briefing Thursday morning.
Mr. Michaels advised that Representatives Riegle and
Shriver, Foreign Operations Subcommittee, are going on a world trip
which originally included Representative Passman and Mr. Francis
Merrill. The latter two have canceled out and Tex Gunnels, of the
Appropriations staff, will be traveling with the two Republicans. Mr.
Michaels noted/
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Michaels for
his courtesy.
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Met,
with Mr. J, R. Blandford, House
Armed Services
who advised that there are no
Committee staff,
Committee hearings under contemplation
at the present time andthings
are, in fact, quite unsettled in the Committee.
I briefed Mr. Blandford on the following items: the Paris
talks, ChiCom MRBM program, the Kremlin shooting, and the Soviet
recon satellite
program.
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Met with Mr. Bruce Merkle, Ad-
ministrative
Assistant to Representative
William Bray (R., Ind.), and
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to him the appreciation of our library for his thoughtfulness. I also
gave to Mr. Merkle for Mr. Bray an FBIS intercept of Moscow trans-
mission of a RED STAR article by one V. Berezin commenting on a
recent constituent newsletter wherein Mr. Bray took the government of
Sweden to task for their recognition of North Vietnam. This is the
second Soviet comment within a week on that particular newsletter. Mr.
Merkle was most appreciative.
8. Met with Mrs. Cathy Parham,
Assistant to Representative Bob Wilson (R., Calif.), and provided a
copy of an FBIS Moscow broadcast to North America citing comments
of Mr. Wilson on the release of the Pueblo crew. Mrs. Parham noted
that Mr. Wilson is interested in such items.
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7. Talked to Mr. Robert Michaels, House
Appropriations Committee staff, who called for Chairman Mahon and
scheduled a meeting for the Director to meet with the Chairman, Mr.
Bow and Mr. Lipscomb, Thursday morning at 9:30., The Executive
Director, OSI, and Office of Security have been advised.
During the day, I also briefed Mr. Michaels on the
following items: Paris talks, ChiCom MRBM program, the Kremlin
shooting, and the Soviet recon satellite program.
8. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, and briefed him on the Paris talks,
ChiCom. MRBM program, Kremlin shooting and the Soviet recon
satellite program.
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General Counsel, National Security Agency, at some length on the
Ervin bill and possible courses of action to be followed.
indicated in part that the NSA need for exception from the bill is
receiving very limited support at this moment at the DOD legislative
liaison level and there does not appear to be any restrictions on NSA
proceeding on its own behalf in seeking this exception from the legisla-
tion.
11 . Arranged for a personnel
interview for Wednesday, 5 February, :45 p.m. for
who was referred to this office from the Senate Internal Security Sub-
committee.
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Counsel, House Armed Services Committee and scheduled a briefing
and luncheon at the Agency for Wednesday, 12 February.
6.
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in the
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1965" and
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brief Chairman
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Assistant
Senator is
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Mahon on the matter.
to Senator Claiborne
in receipt of a letter
the office Tuesday morning.
from
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who requested copies of
European Satellites -
Chinese Balance
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Received
office of Speaker
publications:
Intelligence
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McCormack,
"Foreign Trade of
Directorate, "Communist
DD/I has been advised.
Received a call
in the office of Representative Allard Lowenstein (D., N. Y.), who advised
that the Congressman would be unable to attend the breakfast briefing
tomorrow as he was going out of the country.
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8. Talked to Mrs. Pruyn., Assis-
tant to Representative Frank Stubblefield (D.. N. Y.). and advised that
the Agency had not been able to identify
as a present or former Agency employee. Mrs. Pruyn
thanked me for the Agency's efforts and indicated that she had not yet
heard from Army or the FBI. No further action is required.
9. Talked to Mrs. Oneta Stockstill,
Executive Secretary, House Armed Services Committee, who advised
that the following individuals have been assigned to the Armed Services
Committee by seniority in the order named. Democrats: Richard C.
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Mollohan
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G. William
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Bill Nichols (Ala.) Jack Brinkley (Ga.), Robert H.
(W. Va.), and W. C. Daniel (Va.). Republicans: Charles W.
Jr., (Ohio), Ed Foreman (N. Mex.), John E. Hunt (N.J. ) and
Whitehurst (Va.). Resident Commissioner Jorge Cordova
been assigned to the Committee.
Talked to Mr. Robert Michaels,
House Appropriations
Evans of
Committee staff, who advised that Representatives
Colorado and Edwards of Alabama have been added to the
Appropriations Committee membership. Representative Glenn Davis
of Wisconsin
vacancy created
is being assigned to
by Mr. Laird's
the Defense Subcommittee to fill the
appointment as Secretary of Defense.
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Met with Mr. Art Kuhl, Chief Clerk,
Senate Foreign
on certain
Relations Committee,
intelligence systems.
and provided a limited briefing
I also received from Mr. Kuhl,
appropriate
documentatio4 on the briefing.
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Thursday - 30 January 1969
I. vlet with Mr. Robert Lochrie, Jr.,
Administrative Assistant to Representative Paul G. Rogers (D., Fla.),
and briefed him in general terms concerning vIr.
Lochrie expressed the Congressman's appreciation for our advice and
indicated that he would call if any information or assistance is needed
from the Agency. Mr. Lochrie does not know that any contact has been
made with their office in Miami on this matter.
3. Delivered to Mrs. Coralee Bull, Personal
Secretary to Chairman L. Mendel Rivers, a personal letter from Admiral
Taylor to the Chairman.
4 Met with Miss Edna Paxton, Appoint-
ment Secretary to Representative Walter W. Flowers (D., Ala.), and
confirmed with her the Agency breakfast on Tuesday, 4 February. In
response to her query, I assured Miss Paxton that Mr. Flowers would be
back on the Hill on time to make a 10:30 Judiciary meeting which was
scheduled today for Tuesday.
5. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, and changed the scheduled meeting
Em next Monday to the following week when Mr. Slatinshek will visit the
Agency for briefing on the Agency retirement program and personnel
structure. Mr. Wattles, D/Personnel, and Mr., Warner, Deputy General
Counsel, have been advised.
6. Received a call from Miss Booth,
in the office of Senator Spessard L. Holland (D., Fla.), who requested an
emolovment interview for After checking with
0/Personnel, I advised Miss Booth that the interview has
been scrleauLea. ior 11:00 a. m. tomorrow.
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Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Comn4ttee. several times during
the day concerning Committee plans and schedule of hearings and briefings.
In response to his request, I advised that the Director's schedule for
the coming week is almost complete with only Thursday morning available.
Friday morning could be scheduled by rearranging of present commitments.
Mr. Blandford stated the Chairman's appreciation for this advice but
emphasized that there are no hearings scheduled for next week. This
guidance was requested in the event that the Committee program starts
firming up. A present information schedule of the Committee does not
contemplate the beginning of hearings until after the Lincoln Day Recess.
11. I contacted various members of the House
leadership, Committee chairmen, Agency Committee members and friends
of Mr. Allen Dulles on Capitol Hill during the morning and advised them
of Mr. Dulles' death. The response by the various members in the
House evidenced the high esteem held for Mr. Dulles.
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appropriate CIA members, and friends of Allen Dulles' on the Hill of Mr.
Dulles' death and the arrangements which have been made for funeral services.
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The subject of the briefing was the Middle East. This was done in response
to Spell's earlier request. The briefing session lasted for two hours and was
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be useful to him. He also advised him that there are several classified studies
now in preparation which we could make available to him in the near future.
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13. Met with Miss Jackie Simpson,
in the office of Representative William Anderson (D., Tenn.), and in
response to their buckslip transmittal, provided a copy of the unclassified
blue booklet on the CIA and a repri:at copy of the U.S. NEWS & WORLD
REPORT article, "What's CIA, " which was a 1966 interview with Admiral
Raborn. Miss Simpson thanked me for our assistance and indicated that
she felt the items provided were adequate for response to their constituent,
Tennessee.
15. Met separately with Mr. J. R. Blandford, Chief
Counsel, and Mr. Frank Slatinshek, use Armed Services Committee.
and briefed them concerning Mr. Kosygin's absence from public view;
Soviet simulated strike missions off the North American coast;
and Soviet use of the "May" patrol plane.
Received from Mr. Blandford, a copy of a letter forwarded by the
Assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force to Mr. Blandford regarding
FE Division has been advised.
Mr. Blandford advised that the caucus by the Democrats will be
completed probably during the day today and that the Armed Services Com-
mittee will probably have its organizational meeting on Monday. Committee
strength will be continued at 40 members.
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tions Com ittee stall, wno advised that although Chairman Mahon's schedule
is very tight, he might desire a short meeting during the coming week between
himself, Mr. Lipscomb and the Director. He noted, however, that this is
purely speculative at the moment and no action should be taken until he has
had a chance to check further with the Chairman.
I briefed Mr. Michaels on the following items: Mr. Kosygin's absence
from public view; Soviet simulated strike missions off the North American
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3. , Talked to Chairman L. Mendel
Rivers, who advised that he will be tied up all day due to the caucus
which started at ten o'clock this morning. He asked that I call tomorrow
morning, that he would certainly like to see Admiral Taylor and spend
a few minutes with him before the weekend. I thanked the Chairman and
told him I would be back in touch with him tomorrow.
4. Scheduled a meeting for 10:00 a.m. ,
3 February, for Mr. Wattles and myself to meet with Mr. Frank Slatinshek,
Counsel, House Armed Services Committee and review with him the
Agency retirement legislation and appropriate Agency personnel policies.
Mr. Slatinshek's new assignment within the Committee includes back-
stopping Mr. Blandford on Agency matters.
5. Received a call from Mr. J. R. Blandford,
Chief Counsel, u.1.3.2...11,1_r_utcLagcaLLsjaixijits.a.c. who advised that he
has received another transmittal from the Secretary of the Air Force
concerning the case of and his alimony problems.
Mr. Blandford advised that the Chairman is not particularly interested
in what resolution is achieved on this case but would appreciate settlement
in one fashion or another.
6. Received a call from Mrs. Crous,
in the office of Senator Sparkman, who advised that a sealed letter had
been received by the Senator for transmittal to the Latin Affairs Officer
of the Agency. The latter will be transmitted to Mr. Maury with a covering
note from the Senator's office.
7. Spoke to Representative Gilbert Gude
(R., Md.), and furnished him with additional facts concerning George
Carver, which could not be included in the formal nomination for the
Arthur Flemming Award for security reasons. Gude thanked me for
bringing this to his attention but was noncommittal with respect to the
Award.
8. Representative Bill Alexander
(D., Ark.) was pleased to accept my invitation to breakfast at the Agency
on 4 February. Representatives Anderson (D., Calif.) and Chappell
(ID., Fla.) and Mikva (ID., Ill.) were unavailable but the time was blocked
on their calendars and I will confirm later.
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Appropriations Committee staff, and reiterated the information that
had been provided Mr. Sprankle on Friday that the Agency cannot ful-
fill the type of request made by Representative Riegle on behalf of his
Assistant, Mr. Carl Blake. I further noted that I know of no instance
where such a request had ever been honored. Mr. Michaels noted that
he had felt this to be the fact and that as I requested, he would pass it
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9 In response to his call of Friday, I talked
to Mr. Art Kuhl, Chief Clerk, Senate Foreign Relations Committee,
and advised him that our Headquarters has notified the field that Mr.
David R. Calhoun, Jr., Major General John R. Murphy, Jr., as well
as Mr. Kuhl, himself, each have top secret clearances. In response
to his questions, I also advised, with the unlikely exception of the
Senator moving into areas of operational or other sensitive Agency
matters which would be discussed with him alone, that little difficulty
should be encountered in the briefings. Mr. Kuhl thanked me for the
advice.
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Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, who advised that he has
heard nothing further concerning
but that he will advise as soon as chey arrive back in town. As he had
indicated previously, he has no knowledge of their areas of expertise
and requested that I work out the matter of the proper persons to meet
with them when they call.
I briefed Mr. Blandford, and later Mr. Slatinshek, on the
following items: Communist propaganda tactics; Paris negotiations;
North Korean objectives in current actions against South Korea; ChiCom
construction of hydrofoil gun boats and torpedo boats; Soviet capability
to develop small manned space stations; Soviet construction of new SA-3
sites; and possible effect of France's cancellation of the 1969 nuclear
test series.
12. Met with Mrs. Coralee
Personal Secretary to Representative L. Mendel Rivers, who requested
that I call in the morning to establish a time for Admiral Taylor to meet
with the Chairman.
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13. Viet with Mr. Frank Slatinshek,
House Armed Services Committee staff, and provided further informa-
tion on the Social Security Act amendments concerning survivor benefits.
Also arranged with Mr. Slatinshek for a tentative briefing during the
week of 3 February with Mr. Wattles, D/Personnel, and members of
his staff concerning Agency retiren-,ent legislation and programs.
14. Received a call from Mrs.
Marsha Dresback, Assistant to Representative Louis Frey, Jr.,
(R. , Fla.), who advised that due to a conflict in the Congressman's
schedule, it would be necessary for him to cancel on the breakfast
meeting for 4 February. I thanked Mrs. Dresback for her call and
advised that I would call her as soon as we were able to set a date for
another briefing.
15. Met with Mr. James Wilson, House Science
and Astronautics committee staff, and briefed him on Soviet ability
to establish small manned space stations and the 20 January failure of
the SL-12 inflight by the Soviets. In conversation, Mr. Wilson noted
that although Chairman Teague has not set final dates for hearing
by the Manned Space Flight Subcommittee, any request for possible
Agency briefings would not come before early March.
16. Miss Santo, in the office of
Representative R. Lawrence Coughlin (R., Pa.), called to advise that
with regrets the Congressman would not be able to attend our 4 February
breakfast briefing because of a conflict with the scheduled meeting of the
Freshmen Republican 91st Club. I told her that we would no doubt hold
another briefing and she asked that we contact her when the date is firmed
up since she knows the Congressman would be interested in attending.
17. Ann Jarvis, in the office of
Representative Edwin I. Koch (D., N.Y.), called to confirm that
Mr. Koch will attend the 4 February breakfast briefing and will use
our transportation.
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OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Friday - 24 January 1969
1. Met with Mr. J. R. Blandford, Chief
Counsel, House Armed Services Committeei and reviewed with him the
proposed letter to the Administrator, Social Security Administration,
concerning transfer of employment credits under the social security
law. Mr. Blandford foresees no problems but requested that I brief
Mr. Frank Slatinshek on this matter and such other Agency personnel
matters as are appropriate at the moment. As for further follow-up
legislation concerning possible amendment to the Central Intelligence
Agency Act to assign transfer of credit charges to individual accounts,
Mr. Blandford could foresee no real problem in joining with other retire-
ment systems in a single legislative package through the Post Office and
Civil Service Committee.
I briefed Mr. Blandford. on the following items: (a) Soviet
difficulties with the SL-12; (b) possible increases in Soviet military aid
to Cuba; (c) the absence of Kosygin from the Moscow celebration for the
Soyuz cosmonauts; (d) possible additional Arab terrorist attacks on
El Al aircraft; and (e) continued increase in tensions in Czechoslovakia.
2. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel,
House Armed Services committee, and reviewed with him the highlights
of the CIA retirement system and the Agency response to the Social
Security Administration concerning their report to Ways and Means Com-
mittee on transfer of employee credits to social security where no retire-
ment benefits are payable for civil service employment. In summary, it
was requested that since Agency considerations, Agency retirement
systems, and Agency personnel practices are new to Mr. Slatinshek, he
would appreciate a detailed briefing on the Agency retirement systems
and such other matters of personnel policy as are appropriate at the mo-
ment. Further meetings will be scheduled with Mr. Slatinshek on these
subjects.
3. Representatives Ed Foreman
(R., N. Mex.) and William Clay (D., Mo.) accepted invitations for break-
fast at the Agency on 4 February. i blocked the time with Representatives
Patrick Caffery (D., La.), Lawrence Hogan (R., Md.) and J. Glenn Beall
(R., Md.) and will confirm within the next week.
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Walter W. Flowers (D., Ala.), and Orval H. Hansen (R., Idaho)
and extended an invitation to breakfast at the Agency on Tuesday,
4 February. Both individuals accepted. Mr. Hansen noted, in
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Thursday - 23 January 1969
1. Mr. J. Russell Blandford, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee called to in uire whether the Agency
was interested in employing whose
case Blandford had apparently referred to Admiral Taylor. Blandford
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woul now our candid opinion as to whether we could find a suitable
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did not have a suitable vacancy for him at this time. I reminded Blandford
that our personnel situation was extremely tight at this time and that all other
things being equal we preferred to move our own career people up the line
rather than bring in outsiders for our key positions. This seemed to satisfy
Blandford.
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(R., Mich.) concerning his inquiry as to whether the Agency would have any
3. Representatives James W. Symington
(D., Mo.), 13111 Burilson (ii., Mo.), and Allard Lowenstein (D., N. Y. )
accepted invitations to a freshman breakfast at the Agency on 4 February.
The secretaries of Representatives Lawrence Hogan (R., Md.) and
Manuel Lujan, Jr., (R., N. Mex.) blocked out the time for the breakfast
and I shall confirm next week. Representative Keith Sebelius (R., Kans.)
was unable to accept as there is a Republican 91st Club breakfast featuring
Mr. Shakespeare of USIA at the same time.
4. Sharon Powers, in the office of Representative
William Fitts Ryan (D., N.Y.), in followup of her previous calls about obtaining
a subscription to the FBIS White Book for the Center for War Peace,Studies,
gave the . Center's Washington address (1220 16th Street, N. W. , Washington,
D.C. 20036) in accordance with the arrangements made with her on 7 January
1969 (see Journals of 13 September 1968, 6 January and 7 January 1969).
?FBIS has been requested to initiate this subscription.
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14. Met with Bill Woodruff, of the Senate
Appropriations Committee staff, and he brought up several items: (a) He
continues to receive questions about
and asked if we can provide him with more detailed information on expendi-
tures on Laos and Vietnam. I will be in touch with on this. (b) He
asked if we would check with the Director to determine when the Director
felt he could best brief the Committee. Woodruff proposes to suggest to
Chairman Russell that the first Agency briefing be a world-wide intelligence
briefing of the full Appropriations Committee. This would be similar to
the one given the Committee last February. (c) He said he planned to
suggest to Senator Russell that he be receptive to a courtesy call from
Admiral Taylor. At this time Admiral Taylor could brief the Senator on
the Agency's involvement in the Pueblo. He is particularly anxious to
have Admiral Taylor cover the Agency's role in the discussions in the
303 Committee. I told Woodruff that I would like to sound out Admiral
Taylor on this in advance and he agreed.
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Senator Mike Gravel (D., Alaska), I dropped by to see Rothstein and
discussed the possibilities of the Senator's visiting the Agency in the near
future and perhaps bringing with him several of his colleagues. Senator
Gravel is going to Alaska this weekend but Rothstein thought he would be
interested in such a visit as soon as the situation in the Senate settles a bit.
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Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, who advised that
will be in the city next week and the Chairman would appreciate appoint-
ments made to discuss
Mr. Blandford will have further information the first of the week.
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Walter W. Flowers (ii., Ala.), and Orval H. Hansen (R., Idaho)
and extended an invitation to breakfast at the Agency on Tuesday,
4 February. Both individuals accepted. Mr. Hansen noted, in
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OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Wednesday - 22 January 1969
1. Talked to Mr. Bruce Merkle, Admin-
istrative Assistant to Representative William G. Bray (R. , Ind.),
concerning Mr. Bray's trip to Europe. Mr. Merkle evidenced some
sArprise that Mr. Bray had not mentioned his destination in conversa-
tions with me yesterday and Friday but noted that since it was purely
" a personal vacation and "getaway" trip for Representative Bray and
his wife, that Mr. Bray may have felt that we did not want to be bothered
wi;ph his personal affairs. Representative and Mrs. Bray left last
evening from Dulles and are travelling to London, Rome, Tunis (for an
educational visit to Carthage), and Madrid with a side visit to meet with
friends in Madeira. They will be returning on 4 February. Mr. Merkle
seemed certain that in keeping with Mr. Bray's past habits, he would
be making very few, if any, official contacts during the trip
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Appropriations Committee staff, and Mr. Robert Michaels, House Appro-
priations Committee staff, as a follow-up to the briefing provided at the
Headquarters on 18 December 1968. The briefing was an overview of the
current situation in the Far East with some emphasis on the Philippines,
Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, and was well received by both Mr. Woodruff
and Mr. Michaels. Mr. Nelson's coverage of material of particular inter-
est to both Messrs. Michaels and Woodruff on the various countries left
very few questions for discussion at the conclusion of the 50 minute briefing.
Mr. Michaels noted, in passing, after the meeting that he does
not at this time foresee the requirement by the Chairman for meeting with
the Director before the first of the month.
3. Delivered a letter from Admiral
Taylor to J. R. Blandford, Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee.
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4. Met with Mr. George Norris, House Armed
Servicesial Subcommittee on Sea Power, and responded to his
questions concerning registry of American and other vessels under the
flag of Liberia. See Memorandum for the Record.
5. Talked to Mr. Robert Michaels, House
Appropriations Committee staff, and scheduled a briefing to be given by
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Called
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who indicated his support for the
Agency candidate for an Arthur Fleming
award. (Mr.
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volunteered that he would be happy to round up and bring along some of his
colleagues who had similar interest (although he made clear his lack of
enthusiasm for a breakfast meeting).
9. and I called on William Woodruff,
Assistant Chief Clerk of the Senate Appropriations Committee, whom I briefed
on:
a. Paris negotiations;
b. Development of alternate ChiCom rail link to Hanoi;
c. Recent failure of ChiCom leaders to show up together
in public;
d. Results of Soyuz 4 and 5 missions;
e. Test firings of new short range missiles by Soviet
C-Class submarines;
f. Continued Soviet naval presence in Indian Ocean;
g. Tensions in Czechoslovakia;
Ii. Arab-Israeli situation.
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Conversation with Mr. George Norris, House Armed
Services Special Subcommittee on Sea Power
I. In response to his questions of last week concerning
registration of American and other merchant vessels in Liberia,
the following information was provided:
(a) The registration fees from merchant vessels
amounted to $3.6 million in 1965 which was 6% of the
government revenues of Liberia for that year. A
projection of the 1968 registrations indicates an antic-
ipated $3 million in revenues which would equal about
6% of the government revenues for that year.
(b) The government of Liberia, as registering
country, exercises legislative and regulatory control
over merchant shipping during such period as the
individual vessel is registered under the Liberian
flag. Current controls exercised by Liberia accom-
plishes such objectives as restricting trade with Cuba
and the Iron Curtain Countries. Presumably, however,
exercise of too much control over merchant shipping
could result in withdrawal of registration from the
country.
(c) As for American-owned shipping, the U.S.
Government exercises certain controls through war
risk insurance.
2. The foregoing was related only in general terms with
the caveat that details on these matters are really outside normal
Agency expertise.
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or can guide Mr. Norris in searching out further information.
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MEMORANDUM
15 January 1969
SUBJECT: Liberia, A Political and Economic Assessment
Introduction
Liberia, the oldest republic on the continent and the
African nation with the longest unbroken history of indepen-
dence, has thus far escaped the instability with which many
of its neighbors are struggling. Prospects are good that the
country will remain stable so long as President Tubman is in
office, although long-term prospects of stability are some-
what uncertain.
Tubman has ruled virtually unchallenged over Liberia for
the past 25 years. While preserving the basic prerogatives of
the Americo-Liberian coastal elite (descendents of freed
slaves from the US), he has encouraged economic development
and has initiated some social change by gradually "modernizing"
tribal peoples. Nevertheless, the ruling Americo-Liberian
oligarchy--consisting of about 200 interlocking families who
determine the distribution of political and economic spoils--is
still basically unwilling to share its power and wealth with
the tribal peoples. Pressures for reform are bound to inten-
sify in a post-Tubman Liberia, and long-range stability will
depend upon the ability of Tubman's successors to make major
changes in the sociopolitical structure of the country which
will neutralize the autocratic, regressive position of the
Americo-Liberian elite.
Liberia continues to be viewed in Africa as a protege of
the US, and American investments, valued at about $350 million,
dominate the economy. Current relations between the two coun-
tries generally remain quite good, although beneath the sur-
face there has been increasing concern by Tubman that US
interest in Liberia is declining. Tubman's trip to the US
in March 1968 was largely to seek assurances that the US would
continue to give generous economic assistance to his country.
In recent months, Liberian sensitivity to real or imagine
slight or insults by the US has increased. Tubman himself has
shown heightened nationalistic sensitivity to US insistence
on improved utilization of aid and on more effective self-help.
This appears to be no more than another of the cyclical
occurrences of transitory anti-American feeling in Liberia,
and a serious strain in US-Liberian relations is not anticipated.
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The Current Political Picture
1. An uneasy internal political situation has prevailed
in Liberia for several months. The troubled political
climate dates back to the indictment of Henry B. Fahnbulleh,
the former Liberian ambassador to Kenya, last March on charges
of conspiring to overthrow the government. Fahnbulleh, a
member of a prominent tribal family and probably a bona fide
subversive, apparently was in close contact with Chinese
Communist agents and some radical pan-Africanists. As a
result, tensions in the country have increased, and the
73-year-old Tubman has become more testy and has lashed out
strongly against political enemies, both real and imagined.
2. Although a well-planned conspiracy almost certainly
did not exist, Tubman has become concerned that a plot
involving some tribal elements and reformist-minded Americo-
Liberians may be developing against his regime. His sus-
picions have been further heightened by the occasional
appearance of anti-government signs and tracts. As late as
November a tract strongly attacking Tubman and his regime and
signed by an unknown group calling itself the "Aborigines'
Liberation Front" was widely distributed in Liberia.
3. Tubman, traditionally distrustful of the educated
elite, has responded to these anti-government manifestations
by emotionally attacking the "intellectual clique" and
accusing resident foreigners, particularly Nigerian Ibos, of
engaging in "underground activities." Loyalty demonstrations
have been staged in the capital, and Tubman has accused the
dissident elements of attempting to introduce "the basest
form of Communism"--presumably meaning the Chinese variety--into
Liberia.
4. The security services, which have been unable to
apprehend those responsible for the agitation, was at one
time rumored to be compiling a list of individuals, including
some university students and professors, to be purged. A
widespread purge has never taken place, however, and there
are indications that Tubman has calmed down. Three county
superintendents, who were charged with involvement in the
Fahnbulleh plot, have been given an "amnesty" without ever
having been convicted of the treason charges. All were tribal
Liberians, and Tubman may have detained them essentially to
warn the tribes about over ambition.
5. This low-level unrest does not present a serious
threat to Tubman, but it does suggest that certain elements
of Liberian society are becoming impatient with the continued
administrative mismanagement, lack of economic progress,
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and domination of the government by the coastal minority.
Although the anti-Tubman actions are probably the work of
only a very small group of radicals, they are relatively
brazen acts of defiance considering the harsh punishment
dealt out in the past to individuals who dared to challenge
Tubman's authoritarian rule.
Current Economic Problems
6. Liberia's monetary economy--consisting largely of
rubber plantations and iron mines built by foreign capital--has
grown rapidly over the past 15 years and is expected to
continue to expand, although at a slower rate. Direct invest-
ment was encouraged under the government's "open door" policy
which offered favorable treatment and security to private
foreign investors, and the government undertook an increasing
volume of public capital expenditure financed mainly by
foreign borrowings. The level of public health, education,
and services to peasant agriculture, however, remains one of
the lowest in Africa. Most of the population is still in
the subsistence sector and largely untouched by the money
economy.
7. The rapid expansion of public spending generated
internal strains and placed increasing pressure upon public
sector finances. Concomitantly the price on the world market
of Liberia's two principal exports--iron ore and natural
rubber--fell, and expected government revenues did not
materialize. By the beginning of 1968 Liberia had an external
debt, excluding interest, of about $200 million, more than
one-half of it owed to the US Government. The remaining debts
consisted largely of high-interest and relatively short-term
loans which had been used to finance developmental projects
which were not self-amortizing.
8. Faced with the prospect of having to meet debt
service payments in 1969 equivalent to about 40 percent of its
anticipated revenues, the government successfully negotiated
in the fall of 1968 a stretch-out of payments with the Export-
Import Bank and a rollover of payments due the International
Monetary Fund. In late 1968 the government also worked out
similar stretch-out arrangements on debts owed to commercial
banks, German Kreditanstalt, and Firestone. With continued
economies on the part of the government, improved tax measures,
and no additional major borrowings, Liberia should be able
to meet the revised debt service schedule.
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9. While lower debt payments will ease the immediate
financial problem, Liberian revenues for the next few years
are likely to cover only current expenditures, and amounts
available from. government sources for development will
probably be almost nil. Some development funds may be
accrued if the. government carries out its intention of rene-
gotiating the terms of concessions granted foreign firms,
expecially US, or if additional foreign investment and foreign
aid is forthcoming. Even if development funds become avail-
able, however, the rigid Americo-Liberian power structure is
unlikely to. go very far in altering existing economic
patterns that work to its financial advantage. Moreover,
there are some disturbing indications ?that Liberian official-
dom may not hold the line on major borrowing. Having agreed
to incur no debt "within the limits of political realities,"
the government has already approached Italian interests for
financing to construct a modern port at Harper in southern
Liberia--an economically unjustified, pork-barrel project
for Tubman's hometown which would cost between $10-12 million.
Prospects in a Post-Tubman Liberia
10. Tubman's departure from the scene would create a
serious power vacuum and could unleash forces capable of
disrupting Liberian society and straining the established
order. The immediate successor to Tubman will probably take
power constitutionally, but since Tubman's personal rule
cannot be institutionalized, it is unlikely that the successor
would enjoy the extraordinary degree of popular support and
stability enjoyed by Tubman. The immediate successor to the
presidency will probably be Vice President Tolbert, whose
direct political support is not impressive and who embodies
all that is obnoxious and vicious in the present system. A
Tolbert interregnum would probably be marked by maneuvering
among already constituted groups and certain individuals for
power, and a struggle within the oligarchy seems almost
inevitable.
11. Progressive elements now existing both outside and
inside the Americo-Liberian framework are almost certain to
intensify pressures to liberalize the social and political
structure in a post-Tubman administration. An important
element within the current system is a group of young
Liberians, educated abroad, both of tribal and non-tribal
origin, who are employed in the civil service. This "graduate
elite," consisting of 400-600 individuals, is generally in
favor of government reform and modernization and will even-
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government. Liberian University professors, students, and
the country's fledging labor unions will also become forces
for progress and reform as they increase in number and
strength. Moreover, the emergence of a tribally mixed wage
labor force will also pose the elite with a potentially
strong political threat.
12. These forces will ineluctably effect an evolution
in Liberian society with clearly delineated interest groups.
Post-Tubman administrations probably will be able to cope
with these forces in the near term, and gradual reform is
possible through compromise. Efforts of the privileged elite
to preserve its status in a post-Tubman Liberia by repressing
these developing forces would lead, however, to intensified
dissatisfaction and possibly to civil disturbances or even
violent revolution. Liberia's long-term economic troubles
may exacerbate this discontent and alienate other elements
of society.
13. The post-Tubman era will also probably result in a
partial closing of the "Open Door Policy." This trend is
already evident in Liberia's decision to renegotiate the
concessions from which private foreign investors have profited
in recent decades. Stricter terms and controls will probably
not lead to nationalization, however, and it is unlikely
that the government would go very far towards reversing its
present policy of encouraging potential foreign investment.
14. Politically, stronger efforts will be made over
the years to dispel Liberia's "neo-colonial" image. The US
should expect a shift in orientation away from what many
Liberians already view to be an "excessive" US influence in
Liberia's domestic and foreign policies. Similarly, future
governments in Monrovia can be expected to harden their
attitudes toward any effort of the US to locate additional
facilities in Liberia. They may even attempt to place addi-
tional restrictions and demands for some compensation on
existing US-Liberian agreements covering current US installa-
tions in Liberia and US use of strategic Liberian facilities
in crisis situations.
15. Nevertheless, the traditional political ties,
Monrovian dependence on US economic assistance, and the
dominance of American commercial interests in the economy
will probably prevent Liberia from moving very far away from
its long-accustomed Western orientation.
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OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Tuesday - 21 January 1969
2. In response to his call Friday, met with
Representative William G. Bray (R., Ind.) and his Administrative Assist-
ant, Mr. Bruce Merkle, and discussed some parts of Mr. Bray's expanded
draft of a paper on attacks of the New Left on CIA. Mr. Bray reiterated
that he accepts complete responsibility upon publication for any statements
made in the paper but desires to avoid at least those pitfalls that would be
obvious to experienced Agency eyes.
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3. Met with Mr. J. R. Blandford, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services committee, who advised that no determinations
will be made on scheduling of Committee briefings until after the Commit-
tee is established Tuesday or Wednesday of next week. I also inquired
of Mr. Blandford whether there was any assistance or information the
Chairman desires concerning the case of and
reviewed the facts briefly with him. Mr. Blandford advised that although
he may have had a discussion with Air Force representatives, he does
not remember the case and requested that I brief him after receipt of the
correspondence which is being forwarded to Legislative Counsel from the
Department of the Air Force.
Also briefed Mr. Blandford on several items of current intelli-
gence. See Memorandum for the Record for listing of the items.
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Conversation with Mr. J. R. Blandford, Chief
Counsel, House Armed Services Committee
In meeting with Mr. Blandford, I briefed him on the
attached items. He was already familiar, in detail, with the
current situation in Laos and Vietnam but did not evidence any
particular concern over any individual item. Although not
overly concerned, we did discuss the current Czech situation
in some detail.
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Friday - 17 January 1969
1.
Andrews, in the office
an employ
ments with
Received a call from Mr. Lou
ot Representative Thomas J. Meskill, requesting
After making arrange-
I advised Mr. Andrews that an interview had
been scheduled for
for Tuesday, 21 January at 10:00 a.m.
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Received a call from
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Senator Gravel
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his Administrative Assistant at an Assump-
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The Senator was a classmate of
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general invitation to the Senator for briefing on the Agency and feels
that the Senator
will be receptive to follow-up by our office. I thanked
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Senator's
office during the
next several days.
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Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House Appro-
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and briefed him on the Soyuz 4 and Soyuz 5
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space event. I also passed on to Mr. Michaels that Mr. Woodruff, Senate
Appropriations Committee staff, still does not have a firm schedule. I
will be back in contact on Tuesday to schedule a meeting for
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4. Met with Mrs. Oneta Stockstill,
House Armed Services Committee staff, in response to Chairman Rivers!
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letter of 13 January requesting Agency views and recommendations on
H. R. 591, a bill submitted by Mr. Ryan of New York to amend the Central
Intelligence Agency Act of 1949 to prohibit the Agency from contributing
funds to domestic organizations. This bill is similar to one presented
during the last Congress by Mr. Ryan. The request for views and recom-
mendations is one for the record. No response will be expected by the
Committee in keeping with the format established during previous years.
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Thursday - 16 January 1969
10. Met with Mr. Robert Michaels, House Appro-
priations Committee staff, and provided a copy of the OSR Study of the
Soviet Defense Budget. This paper was developed in response to earlier
briefings provided Mr. Woodruff, Senate Appropriations Committee staff,
and Mr. Michaels. Discussed with Mr. Michaels the inherent difficulties
and complexity of the subject matter and advised that such a study must
be viewed in this light. Mr. Michaels was in complete accord and advised
that as soon as he has a chance to digest it, he will brief Chairman Mahon.
11. Met with Mr. George Norris, House Armed
dae.r...vic.e.s...r. staff, and delivered to him a DD/I blind memoran-
dum dated 15 January 1969 entitled, "Liberia, A Political and Economic
Assessment." After reviewing the paper, Mr. Norris posed the following
additional questions and requested such advice as is available on it: (a)
the economic import, if any, on foreign ship registrations; and (b) the
amount of control exercisable by the Government on ownership or activities
of vessels flying the Liberian flag and possible effects on ships flying
the Liberian flag of a takeover by a political regime hostile to the United
States.
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OFFICE 0;:' ...,E6ISLAT1VE COUNSEL
Tuesday - l January 1969
1. Met with Mr. Charles Johnson, Staff
Director, House Post Office and Civil Service Committee, who
advised that the Post Office Committee cannot organize until its members
are assigned but that there is no press by the Chairman for assignment.
Even after assignment of members, there may be some delays by the
Chairman in organizing the Committee. As for the Executive Pay Bill,
Mr. Johnson feels that there are scificient votes available in the Commit-
tee to override any objection to the proposed increases and that delays
in organization of the Committee will foreclose consideration of any
motions such as the one presented by Representative Gross, at least
until such time as the Committee is organized. The thirty days for
consideration of such objections will run from the time of the President
budget message.
Mr. Johnson noted that studies are in process for rather extenslve
reorganization of the Post Office and Civil Service Committee by reclucin
the number of Subcommittees and recasting the Committee rules to
place additional authority in the hands of Chairman Dulski. As for legis,
tion, he advised that Representative Daniels, Chairman of the Subcomn-iii.:-
tee on Retirement, Insurance and -Health Benefits, will be pushing hard
on the retirement bill that passed the House at the close of the last Session.
Although there are technical imperections in the bill, Representative
Daniels will be introducing it in the House in the form in which it passed
and leaving the cleanup work to the Senate Committee. Mr. Bannerman
has been advised.
2. Met with Mr. George Norris, House
Armed Services Committee staff, and provided an interim report on his
request for information for Chairman Bennett relating to Liberia and
advised that we were working against a suspense date of Wednesday,
15 January. Mr. Norris thanked me and advised that this would be timely.
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Thursday - 9 January 1969
Page 2
5. Met with Representative William Bates, who
advised that he would like to be brought up-to-dateon the subject matter
He recalled the briefing provided by the Director to the Joint Committee
and asked if we have anything additional to add at this time. I briefed Mr.
Bates concerning the possibility of a Soviet manned earth satellite test
and another Venus probe.
I discussed various matters of Committee organization with Mr.
Bates who advised that the overall number of the members of the Committee
will be decreased from 40 to 37 members giving him two new Republicans
and Chairman Rivers two new Democrats. This will result in a breakdown
of 21 Democrats and 16 Republicans in the Committee.
Mr. Bates advised that he has a relatively new man on his staff,
former Navy Captain Bill Hogan. At least for the present, he does not
require any clearances on Captain Hogan. Although Mr. Bates intends to
use Captain Hogan on some Committee work, he does not intend to use him
on Agency classified matters at the present.
6.
Met with Mr. JR. Blandford, House Armed
Services Committee, and briefed him on the possibility of a Soviet manned
earth satellite test; another Venus probe during the next few days; and the
loss of a reconnaissance aircraft by the Chinese Nationalists. Mr. Blandford
requested that I try to contact the Chairman and brief him personally on these
items
I met with Mrs. Coralee Bull, Chairman Rivers' personal secretary,
who advised that the Chairman would not be available until some time
after 9:30 in the morning and suggested that I come by to see him at that time.
7. Met with Mr. James Wilson, House Science and
Astronautics Committee staff, and briefed him on the possibility of a Soviet
manned earth satellite test and a probable additional Venus probe. Mr.
Wilson advised that Chairman Teague had been extremely busy and hard to
reach but that he would try to get to the Chairman in the morning and brief
him on the items.
8. Met with Miss Louise Ellis, House Armed
Services Committee stall, and received from her classified documents
identified in review of Committee files for return to the Agency. See Memo-
randum for the Record.
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Return of CIA Documents
Met today with Miss Louise Ellis, House Armed Services
Committee staff, and received from her the two attached docu-
ments entitled "Additional Information Regarding Consultants,"
and "Additional Information on Language Training Program" with
carbon copies.
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Wednesday - 8 January 1969
1. In response to her call, met with
Miss Louise Ellis, Souse Armed Services C:nmmiti-Qe staff, and received
from her copies of various documents culled from Committee files for
return to the Agency. See Memorandum for the Record for listing of the
documents.
3. Received a call from the office of
Representative John S. Monagan (D., Conn.) asking us to cancel their
subscription to the FBIS Reports. Called FBIS, who said
Monagan's office was receiving four subscriptions and asked if they wished
to cancel all of them. Spoke with Mr. Joseph Donahue, Administrative
Assistant to Representative Monagan, who said that in view of their
personnel changes they would like the subscriptions continued until further
notice. This will be done.
4. Mr. Doug Baldwin, in the office of
Representative John Wold (R., Wyo.), called to request that subscriptions
of the "Yellow" and "Green" FBIS books be sent to his attention, 1323 Long-
worth House Office Building. FBIS, has been advised.
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8 January 1969
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Return of CIA Documents
The following documents were received today from Miss
Louise Ellis, of the House Armed Services Committee staff:
(a) Introductory Remarks by the Director re
H. R. 16306 dated 28 July 1966, (Secret)
(b) Legislative Status of CIA Retirement System
undated (Secret)
(c) FY 1968 Budget Chart (Secret)
(d) Classified Funds, FY1967 from DOD, undated,
with cc (Secret)
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INTRODUCTORY REMARKS BY THE DIRECTOR
Mr. Chairman, I an hap' f to appear before your Subcommittee
to discuss H. R. 16306, a bill ''T) amend the Central Intelligence Agency
Act of 1949, as amended, and for other purposes.' 1 am appreciative,
Mr. Chairman that you gentlernfm have taken tine from your busy
schedule to work with us on this '411 which we regard as necessary for
the operation of the Agency.
Before talking about the tilIwhich is on your agenda I want to
thank you for your very real assistance in approving the CIA Retire nent
Act in the previous Congress. 1 wuLd like to give you a brief report on
our progress with it.
The President approved .,ur retirement law in October 1964. But,
as you know, our internal regulation for administering it had to be cleared
with the Bureau of the Budget art etth your Committee and your colleagues
in the other body.
In addition, .4r. McConc s4ught the advice of an independent panel
of attorneys on our regulation b.z.fore ivin it to you for review.
Mortimer M. Capilu Fowler H r-il ton, and Stewart i, Pittman were
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appointed and they submitted t
the Agency that in their opirio
Letter and spirit of the law.
Your Chairman and rai
19 February 196S advising
eg ulation was consistent with the
ority members gave us prompt
approval of the regulation. linfurtmiately, the illness of Senator
Salto stall delayed his review and we did not have a final OK until late
April. The regulation a then Luthenticated for issuance by the Director
on 27 April 1965.
A CIA Retirement
nior officials, chaired by our
Director of Personnel was eetaz4iehed to review the records of .uiployea
an duty and identify those e1igib1 ro participate in this special retirement
system.
This ecreening job has been time c
and painstaking re
to those who qualif
tasted with some
these. some
. It involved a careful
ew of the recordsof individual employees to do justice
d to participate in this special retirement system. We
rscort review and have now finished
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was a
andatory age retirements.
retirees
th a service. The average age of
disability retirements,
our voluntary
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qualifying service for both voluntary and mandatory retirees was over
years, average length of Agency service was
years, and the
length of total Government service for both categories was almost
years. The average grade of both categories of retirees was
It is too early to make a firm evaluation that this retirement
system will meet all of the conte nol ted objectives as a management
tool for the Agency. However, re is ample evidence that it has been
an Important morale factor in as 3 ring appropriate early retirement
benefits to the particular group 4,1 A4ency careerists for whom it was
intended.
The bill before you today has two basic purposes. There are a
number of minor amendments to the retirement bill which are necessary
ide concepts in retirement
such as modifications to the auto -natic cost-of-living adjustments. The
second purpose is to update and clarify some of our administrative
authorities granted us in the CIL Act of 1949. These have to do with
such items as travel expenses oi errployees. home leave, and medical
to keep our system up to date
exp
foreign countries. '7his particular group of amendments
was beforethis Subcommittee in 1964 and were included in our early
retirement package. Because & the importance of the early retirement,
it was suggested that consideration of the administrative Items be deferred.
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I would like to emphasize that wIUi one or two minor exceptions which
will be brought specifically to yvxr attention by Colonel White, each o
the specific amendments is provided elsewhere in law for other
departments and agencies. Thus, we are not breaking new group or
establishing precedents.
Today I have with me to ,o into detail with the Subcommittee
these various provisions Colonel White, our Executive Director,
John S W a
sure, be able to
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They will, I alai
quet;ti ens you may have about this bill.
If I may ask your indulge -me, I would like to be excused to join
Important meeting whic1., unfortunately, conflicted with this
et
with you.
will present our proposals to
. I would add only that I believe this bill is essential to
the needs of the Agency. I stand ready at your call to discuss any of
these items with you.
Thank you for giving me this opportunityto appearbefore you.
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LEGISLATIVE STATUS OF CIA RETIREMENT SYSTEM
Some ten years ago, or more. Agency management recognized
the need for an improved retirement system for a certain percentage of
Agency employees. It was recognized that overseas work, clandestine
work and hazardous service would require a more liberal retirement
system and an earlier retirement elate.
After exploring all avenues, it was determined that the principles
of the Foreign Service Retirement Act would fulfill the Agency's requirement
for some 30 per cent, more or les 3, of the Agency's employees whose
conditions of employment warranted more liberal treatment. (In recognition
of earlier retirement requirements the Agency administratively adopted a
program of having employees retire at age 60 rather than the mandatory
age under the Civil Service Retirement Act at age 70.) One of the key
features of the Foreign Service Act was voluntary retirement at age 50
with 20 years of service with no reduction of annuities for service below
age 60. Legislative advantages were also seen in adopting the principles
of a system that was already in existence and had been tested over the years.
Further, the conditions of employ-aent which justified the Foreign Service
system were in many respects substantially similar to service required of
Agency employees.
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This legislative proposal was made to the Bureau of the Budget in
1962 and they approved the Agency going to Congress requesting legislation
to authorize the Director to establish a retirement system similar to the
principles of the Foreign Service Retirement Act. The legislative proposal
was a simple "incorporation by reference." This bill was introduced by
Mr. Vinson and hearings were held. The House Armed Services Committee
found no fault with the proposal on the merits but insisted that the "incorporation
by reference" format be dropped in favor of specific language.
In the following year the early retirement proposal was resubmitted
and in effect it was a Foreign Sert-ice Retirement Act for a certain
percentage of the Agency employees. It was recognized at the time that
such a procedure would require the Agency to go back to the Congress
every year or so with new proposals since retirement is a dynamic subject
and the record shows that both the Civil Service Retirement and Foreign
Service Retirement systems are amended in every Congress.
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The House approved the early retirement proposal in
substantially the form as had been presented. On the Senate side
a somewhat more conservative approach was taken in committee
and a number of the less important but liberalizing features of the
Foreign Service Act were deleted. The principal feature of retirement
at age 50 with 20 years' service was retained and the Agency was
authorized to establish its own retirement system. There was not
sufficient time to work on compromises between the House and Senate
version if the Agency hoped to gain authority to establish the system.
Therefore, in effect, the House committee and the Agency agreed to
accept the Senate version with a view that some of the other items
would be picked up in later years.
An excellent example of the dynamics of retirement legislation
involves the Government-wide adoption of the concept of cost-of-living
adjustments in annuities to retired people. The first step in this
direction occurred in 1962 when a cost-of-living increase formula was
enacted into the law for the Civil Service Retirement system. This
formula was included in the Senate version of the Agency retirement
bill and thus, after approval by the House, became a part of the law.
Thereafter, the Foreign Service Retirement system and the Military
Retirement system were amended to include this cost-of-living formula.
Later, however, in 1965, the Civil Service Commission adjusted the
precise cost-of-living formula to nake it more timely. The Military
Retirement system was similarly adjusted and Foreign Service proposed
legislation which was not enacted in 1966 has been favorably reported by
Senate Foreign Relations Committee this year.
This up-to-date cost-of-living formula is one of the main features
in the current legislation pending in the Congress for the C/A system.
In addition, several of the features of the Foreign Service Retirement
system which were originally approved by the House but deleted by the
Senate are in the package. Considerable study by Personnel, DDP and
others has indicated that these features are fully justified for the Agency
system and would like to see ther% approved by the Congress. While not
necessarily the most effective way to express it to the Hill, nevertheless
what the issue boils down to is that what the Congress approved as justified
for the Foreign Service we believe the Agency can justify even more
strongly. Therefore, the question is whether the dedicated employees of
CIA whom we believe assume greater risks with less recognition are to
receive less favorable treatment by the Congress than are other groups
of Government employees similarly situated.
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OFFICE OF LEGSTATIVE COUNSEL
Tuesday - 7 January 1969
1. Worked out with Robert Michaels, Staff
Assistant, House Appropriations Committee, plans for his visit to some
Agency activities 8 to 11 January 1969.
2. Wlliam Woodruff, Assistant Chief
Clerk, Senate Appropriations Committee, informed me that Senator Russell
wanted to be certain that his Subconin-iittee received an Agency roundup
briefing before we briefed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Woodruff
wanted to be informed as soon as we had any indication that the Foreign
Relations Committee wished to schedule a briefing. He said Senator Russell
would be preoccupied with the Senat2 Rules debate next week (13-17 January)
but might like an Agency briefing the following week (20 - 24 January). In
any event however the Senator would want to be sure that his Subcommittee
heard from the Agency before we appeared before Senator Fulbright's
Committee.
3. Met with Representative F. Edward
Hebert (D. , La.) and advised him fiat has
not filed the application for employment furnished him at the time of inter-
view and that we are now putting his file on the inactive list. Mr. Hebert
agreed that the file should not be kept open any longer and exiDressed
appreciation for our assistance in tis case
4. Met with Mr. J. R. Blandford, Chief Counsel,
Committee,.1;14/12.9xe_Ljzziie,liaea_y_ixx?a_ and completed the appropriate documenta-
tion on two projects for which Secrecy Oaths had not been signed.
5. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Counsel, House
Armed Services Committee, and briefed him on the security control systems
utilized in the protection of sensitive information and completed the appro-
priate Secrecy Oath. Mr. Slatinshek has recently been designated by the
Chairman to attend CIA Subcommittee briefings.
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Tuesday - 7 January 1969
Page 2.
6. in reponse to his call, met with Mr.
George Norris, Counsel, Thhe Armed Services Special,Subcomrnittee
on Seapower, who requested a brief -rundown on the current picture and
forecast, both political and economic oi he country of Liberia. Chairman
Charles Bennett (D., Fla.) is curre,1...tly reviewing registration of commercial
vessels and has noted in particutar t;:e dlsproportionate amount of tonnage
flying the Liberian flag. DD/I has hor advised.
8. inirm.e.d. Roy Carlson., Administrative
Assistant to Representative Julia Hansen (D. , Washington), that
ould be interviewed by our recruiter on 13 January. See Journal
of o anuary.
9. J. -_ourwin.e, Senate Internal Security Sub-
committee, called and said he under3tood that the Agency has prepared a
study on Communist influence in rae..cal student activities on a worldwide
basis. He asked if it would be posst.)1e for him to read the study, and if no',
if we could provide a briefer to brie:. -him on the subject as his SubcommiLee
is planning to hold hearings on this i?-ubject during this session. I told
him I would look into it and be back touch with him.
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3. :;:t-,arc.)-n. Powers, in the office of Repre-
sentative William Vstz Ryan (L)., ,IA, called to inquire if we would
provide a subscription of the Book to an organization known
as "War Peace Reports" if it haa:a 7,-i?as-hington post office box or bureau..
(She had contacted us previously o... ?his on 13 September 1968 and was
informed that the White Book was, __va:...Labie in the New York Public Library
system and through the Document iL;t,:pediting Program of the Library of
Congress. See 13 September l9of Journal.) Miss Powers said she had
been informed by the Library of 1.;or.uress that the Agency handles
subscriptions for news organizatiunu having a Washington address and ta
contact 17,`BIS. I told. Miss Powers I would check into
and be back in touch with her.
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to make a check on this organization4and pending the outcome of that
check I will advise Miss Powers thah.;,we will send Daily Reports to the
"War Peace Reports" if it has a Washington address.
4.
Chief Counsel, Senate IrnI.,roveme
and, based on the advice of
Met with Mr. M. Albert
Its :in Judicial Machinery Subcommittee,
DD/OCS, discussed our oast
cooperation with the U.S. courts on the computerized translation of court
-reporter's notes. I explained that. ab,out 100,000 words had been processed
since June 1968 and the courts ho\.,haci sufficient experience with the
program to determine whether to ?race,ed with an outside contractor.
Tiginski emphasized the importance Senator Tydings attached to improve-
ments such as these to break the loijam in the U.S. court system. I
explained that while the Agency's related efforts were being phased on:,
we would be pleased to cooperate in the future if any unique developments
come to our attention. A closeout letter to Senator Tydings for the record
will be prepared.
5.
oriefly before the CIA Subcorraync.,ee of
House Armed Services and in res)onse to some pro forma questions explained
that the Agency was not...dae,ctly ahva.Lved in the matter under consideration.
(See Memo for the Record.)
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6 January 1969
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Appearance Before the CIA Subcommittee of House
Armed Services Committee Re Pueblo Case
1. In response to a request h Mr. Blandford, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, and I accompanied Messrs.
Drexel Godfrey and Bruce Clarke to e ay urn Building this morning
where we met with Mr. Blandford prior to a meeting convened by Chairman
L. Mendel. Rivers of the CIA Subcommittee of House Armed Services Corn.-
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officers were standing by in the Subcommittee hearing room.
Z. Mr. Blandford called me aside and explained that the Subcom-
mittee was meeting to review the Pueblo case and probably would not get
around to a general roundup intelligence briefing, although he wanted to
have Messrs. Godfrey and Clarke available in case the opportunity for
such a briefing arose.
3. Mr. Blandford further explained that he would like to open the
Subcommittee meeting by calling me to establish the fact that the Agency
was not directly responsible for the Pueblo, its crew or its operational
activity, to which I agreed.
4. Members present when the Subcommittee convened, at 10:30, were:
Representative
Rep re sentative
Representative
Representative
Representative
Representative
L. Mendel Rivers (D., S. C.), Chairman
Philip J. Philbin (D., Mass)
F. Edward Hebert (D., La.)
Melvin Price (D., Ill.)
0. C. Fisher (D., Texas)
Charles E. Bennett (D., Fla.,)
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Representative William H. Bates (R., Mass.)
Representative Leslie C. Arends (R., Ill.)
Representative Alvin E. 01Ko-nski (R., Wis. )
Representative Charles S. Gubser (R., Calif.)
(Note: Representative Gubser has not previously attended meetings of the
CIA Subcommittee.)
5. Mr. Blandford called me as the first witness and asked if CIA
was directly involved in the Pueblo matter. I replied that we were not.
6. Chairman Rivers next asked if he was correct in understanding
that CIA was not responsible for the Pueblo. I answered that this was
correct.
7. Next, Mr. Arends asked if any CIA personnel were on board
the Pueblo. I replied there were none.
8. Mr. Blandford then commented that General Carter would
explain about the civilian personnel on the vessel.
9. Mr. Bennett then asked if CIA operated "any ships like the
Pueblo. " I said that we did not.
10. and I were then excused from the meeting, and
Messrs. Godfrey, Clarke and I stood by in an adjoining office until the
meeting adjourned at about 11:50. Having understood that the subject would
be taken up again the next day in order to hear from General Carter, who
had thus far not testified, I asked Mr. Blandford if we should be available
at that time. He said this was not ne P C!A r
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Monday - 6 January 1969
6.
tive Assistant to Representaiii?-,
constituent in
to anolv for employment wil:n
with.
in Personnel, for
Page 3
Roy F. Carlson, Adrninistra-
a Hansen,
called concerning a
who would like
ed with Bob
to be in touch
I arran
7. , At the request of Garner J.- Cline,
House Subcommittee on iinarnil-aition. and Naturalization, provided
him with the name of of Radio Free Europe in Munich
as the person to write a "thani-: you" letter.
8. Aft,i11: the meeting of the CIA Subcommittee
of House Armed Services, I n.t;Jvvich Mr. J. R. Blandford, who advfLsed
that it would be appropriate to clear_ Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Committee
Counsel, in such areas as winnti necessary for him to sit in on CIA
briefings. Mr. Blandford also advised that although Mr. Gubser
may well be sitting with the C1;,:..4Subcommittee on those occasions
when Mr. O'Konski is not present, determination has not been
made by the Chairman conce-rning replacements for Mr. Hardy and
Mr. Halleck. Mr. Blandford-also expressed the Chairman's apprecia-
tion in the conduct of today's meeting.
9. Atiet with Mr. Jerry Friedheim,
Press Assistant to Senator Zo niTower (R. , Texas), as a followup
in my conversations with him-cm Friday. Mr. Friedheim advised
that the information and guide:Thes furnished on Friday concerning
classification of Agency personne/ rosters and organizational structure
was sufficient and that nothing more is desired by Senator Tower at
this time. I took the occasion to extend an invitation to the Senator
to visit the Agency for brtcfints and arranged with Mr. Friedheim
to contact him in two weeks or so to schedule a visit to the Head-
quarters.
10. Met with Mr. Ben Gilleas, Senate
Preparedness Investigating Suiieomrnittee, and received from him
copies of several intelligence -itAciies and other classified documents
that had been furnished to the Cjornmittee. For a detailed listing
of the documents, see Memorandum for the Record. I receipted
for the return of the documents.--
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Friday - 3 January 1969
Page 3
8. In response to his call, I talked to
Mr, Jerry Friedheim, Press Assistant to Senator Tower, who advised
that the Senator was interested ii the Agency organizational structure
and names of individuals in the Agency. I advised Mr. Friedheim that
the Agency organizational structure and rosters of Agency personnel
are classified. I plan to meet with Mr. Friedheim on Monday after He
has had a chance to talk to the Senator about this.
9. In response to a request of Representative
William Bray oi yesterday, met with Mr. Bruce Merkle, Administrative
Assistant to the Congressman, w;-lo provided a copy of a current draft
of a newspaper or magazine itern being prepared by Mr. Bray for
publication concerning leftwing attacks on CIA. Mr. Merkle advised
that Mr. Blandford as well as he, himself, had done some editing
of the item.
11. At his request, met with Mr. J. R. Blandford,
House Armed Services Committee, who advised that cii&jirman Rivers
was scheduling a CIA Subcommittee meeting for 10:15, Monday, 6 January
in Room 2212, RHOB. Mr. Blandford advised that the main subject to be
covered would not directly involve he Agency and that the presence of the
DCI would not be required, but that it would be appreciated if an Agency
briefer could be available on standby for a world situation roundup, if
rime is available. The DCI, DD/I and Office of Security were advised.
See Memorandum for the Record.
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OPPB
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Scheduling of CIA Subcommittee Briefing for
6 January 1969
1. In response to his telephone request, I met with Mr.
J. R. Blandford, Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee,
who advised that a CIA Subcommittee meeting was being scheduled
for 10:15 a. m., Monday. 6 January in Room 2212, Rayburn House
Office Building. Mr. Blandford advised that the purpose of the
meeting was to take testimony concerning the Pueblo but that the
Subcommittee members themselves would not even be advised of
this until meeting time to avoid the possibility of news leaks. Mr.
Blandford advised that there would be no need for the Director to
appear but that someone should be available from the Agency to
advise the Committee concerning any compromise of Agency inter-
ests. Mr. Blandford asked that if I would be so kind, on my return
to the Agency, to call General Marshall Carter, on his behalf, on
a secure telephone and ask that he be present with whoever of his
people he might care to bring with him, at 10:15 Monday morning to
testify on compromise of equipment and other NSA matters affected
in the loss of the Pueblo. Mr. Blandford noted for General Carter's
information and the Agency's that neither would be present in the
Committee room during the appearance of the other. At this point,
Mr. Blandford also suggested that it would be well if someone,
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vide a world.situation roundup. On my return to the Agency. I
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on the grey telephone.
2. General Carter thanked me for the call and asked that I
pass back to Mr. Blandford, on his behalf, response that he would
be present on Monday morning. General Carter will be limited in
the detail that he can provide since his experts on the subject are
all in San Diego working on the debriefings. The possible maximum
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assessment of damage is available and has been prepared for some
time. Refinement of the possible maximum assessment is some
weeks away since interrogation so far covers a magnitude in excess
of 600 rolls of several hours each and less than 300 have been tram-
scribed so far.
3. On my return to the Hill. I advised Mr. Blandford that
the information provided by him had been relayed to the Agency and
that I had talked to General Carter. In response to the information
I relayed on General Carter's behalf. Mr. Blandford indicated that
he assumed that the General would not be able to give a final analy-
sis at this time but that there is need for the Committee to develop
such information as is presently available.
4. Later in the afternoon, I again talked to Mr. Mandford
who asked how I had confused his advice that the Director would not
be needed on Monday. He advised that he had talked to Admiral
Taylor and had advised the Admiral that he too would not be needed.
I advised Mr. Blandford that his instructions had been relayed but
that in matters where testimony is to be provided on Agency opera-
tions or determinations, the Director has a strong preference to
make such appearances himself and an equally strong desire to in-
sure that the desires and needs of the Chairman are fully met. The
conversation was interrupted at this point and since the remainder
of our business had been concluded, it terminated on this note.
5. The following Committee members are being notified of
the meeting: Representatives Philbin (D.. Mass.), Hebert (D., La.),
Price (D., Ill.), Fiaher (D., Tex.), Bennett (D., F4.), Bates
(R., Mass.), Arends (R., Ill.), O'Konski (R., Wis.) and Bray
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OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Thursday - 2 January 1969
1. With regard to his call to
FBIS, spoke with John _Lofton, on the staff of the Republican Con-
gressional Committee, concerning the subscription to the FBIS Area
Reports which was requested 5 December. Lofton was most under-
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2. Met with Miss Louise Ellis, House
Armed Services Committee staff, and received from her various
classified documents that had been furnished to Mr. Phil Kelleher,
former Committee Counsel, for use in briefing the Chairman and
members of the Committee. See Memorandum for the Record.
3. Met with Mr. J. R. Blandford, House
Armed Services Committee, and discussed his conversations with
Representative Bray concerning the withdrawal of an Agency recruiter
from the University of Indiana. In essence, Mr. Blandford indicated
that he has talked to Mr. Bray several times since his return to the
city and no further mention has been made of the subject. I thanked
Mr. Blandford for the information.
Later in the day, I met with Mr. Bray between offices. He
was most cordial in his salutations for the new year. He advised that
he has been in consultation with the Governor of the State of Indiana as
well as the president and administration of the University, and they
are all solidly behind us (CIA) and will back us and our recruiter 100
percent. Representative Bray indicated that the feeling is very strong
in Indiana that these few dissident students should not be allowed and
will no longer be allowed to control or interfere with proper University
administration. After some conversation on the point, I advised Mr.
Bray that the Agency wishes to avoid becoming the focal point in such
confrontations between dissident students and the administration of the
University. He indicated his familiarity, from a previous briefing by
the Director, with the fact that our Agency policy is founded in a
Presidential request and that the greater problem of leftwing attacks
on the Agency may also be involved. He advised that he is currently
doing a paper on the general topic of activities of the leftwing and asked
that I stop by tomorrow when a draft of that paper will be available. I
thanked Mr. Bray for his courtesies and plan to go by his office
tomorrow afternoon.
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2 January 1969
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: House Armed Services Committee Return of CIA
Documents
1. The following documents were received today from
Miss Louise Ellis, of House Armed Services Committee staff:
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maintained by Mr. Phil Kelleher, retired Committee Counsel,
Miss Ellis will return them to us.
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WASHINGTON POST ? DATE: -1- (1115 to-7 .FALLE;
tnited Press IntirnatIon#1;
airmap,L. ilVien del ?Rivets.
tinted Yesterday tliatthe
ce w ives gate t$?5.0.7
"Of the US$ Pue$1.0 4s.
as the Navy complete It
inctuiry.
here are many-grin-
questioths and be-
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many, many inconlisten-
Rep. itivers told thi
rnittee.
he Senate Armed StrAges
imittee also has decided to
estigate the Pueblo ?watt
er the Navy's Cotpli
at Ca-
' al.orpci,
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ntagon flu Us Waor
nti-Missile Sites
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By John Maffre
7 Ni.a'shinit'iin rodslItif*riyet,
e face of mounting crit-
the Pentagon revealed
ay it his halted site ac-
n and construction for
.5-billion Sentinel anti-
c missile system.
e same time President
Wixpri at his news conference
ed the Johnson Admin-
n's rationale for Senti-
s, a defense primarily
t Red China's projected
e4,threat of the 1960s.
not buy the assump-
at the ABM system, the
eptinel system as it has
tselibed, Was- gm-ply for
ose of protecting our
against attack from
ist China," he told a
or.
ii system, as are the sys
eLm_tiat the Soviet Union
Itaa already deployed," he
said, meaning presuthably the
Galosh and Talinn systems in
`Russia, "adds to our over-all
defense capability."
The two developments raise
the prospect that within the
next few weeks the Nixon Ad-
ministration will reach a
-major decision on ABM based
on its multiple deterrence capa-
bility, notably against Mos-
cow, rather than against Pe-
king as the previous Adminis-
tration had stressed.
An affirmative decision
would pose a much more diffi-
cult political decision:
Whether to ask an increas-
ingly hostile Congress to fund
a "thick" as well as thin ABM
system whose cost has been
reckoned at $40 billion Of
more.
See ABM, A7, Oa- /
ter
e
merely that "certain aspects
of the Sentinal program re-
cently have been deferred,
such as the acquisition of sites
and site construction."
Itpeeifically, this means that
Construction work is halted at
Boston, the one area out of 15
Under consideration where
land had actually been ac-
quired. ?
Sites have been tentatively
chosen near Chicago and Seat-
tle but, as at Boston, they
have stirred a mounting wave
of protest.
The Pentagon noted that re-
search and development on
ABM would continue uninter-
rupted while Deputy Defense
Secretary David Packard car-
ried out a top priority review
of major weaponry items, of
which ABM is at the moment
the most urgent.
Yesterday's developments
came in the wake of a move
by the Chairman of thulit,ouie
ed Services Committee
ap. r eim?rammer?s?vvr.)
to block action on site a-eiltil-
sitin for ABM until the
tagon had given a "defini-
ment" that it-tidily
ivers' Iertei? o
efense SeMaff
aird _Waa
s learned iliailtiV-
ce tied &et. 1%5db-1s
r A Thattitiastra 7.
ed last month at hilSTIT.-'
confirmation hearing: -
d at that time teinTri.
hen M. Young M-flarfie
onally had "soriie-
whether we should' tish
rd simply with a -ay
defends against The
ese- threat only .
as making the deciar6ii'a
g ahead With the-if-An
m at this time, I at
ared to make Such
ent."
vers, who supportecrA
year, was repftted tiiThe
erned at proceedin' -with
sition of Major e
unless it was dear fiiSt
't the Sentinel pregrain
d involve.
- weft-7
st night United Press
ational reported Rivers as
esting in ari inteirvieW
the Pentagon nilgtrhe
ing on a modificatroireir
plete substitiite "fa?the
the light of Laird's state-
ts that he wants td be able
to bargain''-liefn Iff-renetb
whenever it come's' to- iriTsiile-
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imiting --taTks with -Kiiss a,
there is ,speculation that he
would be unimpressed with
ABM unless it had a de-
monstrable capability against
the Soviets.
In Congress, Sen. F,dward
M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) and
Sen. John Sherman Cooper
(R-Ky.) have taken the lead in
recent efforts to halt deploy-
ment of ABM. Even the Ma-
jority Leade r, Sen. Mike
Mansfield (D-Mont.), has stat-
ed his doubts about the pro-
gram.
In addition to Boston, Seat-
tle and Chicago, there has
been consideration of sites
near Albany, Ga.; Dallas; New
York City; Hotiolulu; Detroit;
Los Angeles; San Francisco,
and Salt Lake City?all major
population areas.
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Four other possible sites are
near major Air Force bomber
and missile bases: Great Falls,
Mont.; Grand Forks, N.D.;
Cheyenne, Wyo,, and Sedalia,
Mo.
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avy citecl
n Budget Bi
By George C. Wilson
Washington Pt Staff Writer
ern Soviet ships over-1
the Creeping U.S. fleet:
Is the Nation with "a'
and challenging prob
will take some $3
in fiscal 1970 alone to
gelving, Navy leaders
Congress.
eatirrionY to -fh-is
tvffn to aLL
-he mitteel
ngs runn ng rom c
tele* 31. A censoredi
of: the testimony waf,
yesterday.
-eat to the VS. stt
Sea is real," Adiri ?
toOrer,edef of
ifations, told the sub- ?
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CO, "
Problern, he Said, ?
Old ships have not beer
'T?Oith new oties far
The result?one add
hi Nixon Adniinistra-
dfley ProbleVis?is a.;
rtittted Navy fleet. '
IS Watchword '
et and other Nalf!",
- slid many afhe ships
and repair. The Navy
ragrain for doing this
RXIVI?Fleet Rehabil
nd-Moderniiatron.
man L. Mendel Rivers
of the House Armed
Committee cum
Oring the hearing!.
have FRAllid and
FRAM'd
't FRAM any More."-
,
lready has squarel
tiefense Seetetarl,
: Laird on the Woe
if 'diet the Navy gM
Ar new shipsIBtr-
fa'te delay-the limp'
ufidiqg pragratri' and
_as reduced the aitionlit
the budget he inherited.
leaders, while the Ps-
budget -Was "beitrg
asked their civilian /bi- I
for $3.1-bi11ion to "inci
he' fleet Thiaamoffot
(laced to $2.4 -
044f' that Prealident
n llttd-in ITS udiie
T e
riders made these "antes
le the subcommittee OAP -So-
viet progress: -- -7
? Soviet submarineS", ItTe
heinl built at ASeverodltinsk,,
the largest facility Of its ,kind
in the world. Gorkix sh1132ard4
where hydrofoil harAtii have
lieen built in the 'be-
lieved to have joi
Soviet's nuclear
building effort. T
yards could build,'
20 nuclear submarin
* Surface war
beine built at Ni
the Black Sea and
Leningrad. Nikol
builds large mere
Roth yards are big
war ships.
increase their prop iv
- ? The Styx ship-fp-ship:Mis-
sile?the one the 1 typ-VA
used to sink the Israeli: de,-
strover Eilat in 1967-r?is-being
exported by the Soisjo
therous small counfrie
Navy intelligence o
the styx poses a thren
Navy surface ships. "]
? The Soviet her
riei Miskva not o
elaborate radar to
missiles, but also to_
ern sonar for det
marines.
- * Kresta class crtiftit Carry:
hot only anti-alrcrt ndssiles
but also ship-to-ship ,thissiles'
which could be u - 1_9*W,
American aircraft c era, '
? ? The Soviets va-i`vigOr-
usly pursued" tle deve10P-
ment of anti-ship rt?sslles for
o
their airplanes?a ivearion the
Intelligence officia said the
-
Sva
ITS. Navy does not
Merchant Ships Ne
Navy leaders, de
Vit per cent of al
ho
cargo
That has gone to Vi namyent
by ship rather t by air-
-plane, told the su Ittee
that a modern m
rine was a vital pa at'Asteri-
_ _ - ? ---
iviatio9 jo :4Cpoq .ayi
-66ST -
building; He Old
?
;
trio,pro:._ , tr
tsing to Presetirir detailed
plan in the fiscal Mt bilelgei -
In the meantime, lie Strtu-k
$323 Million from the fiscaV
1970 ship building' ac(-ourt.
cpngress, in response to ex-
pressed Navy fears about
viet paval :.progress," is likely
to rein** the Money.'
tf..tyland e;.;;,-"
tr.-0 the VA. 15'2.6111c
said putting electronic
,
_ getry _biro old Navy
Ortbe'rMe:has become a 'us-ing battle.,
? ;1:le': said_ :the only 'place
.;sel brae* laOxeS, often is e
'iVji'quarters Tie the
43Ig: '!ten" Maintain -
older ships. we literally take -46'
rntrebcptf(..lie.,htiles of oar:
periPlethat We have a diffii-blf
priablem jetting" eilougla nf'
them to st4y Witii`ui'and,rnike!
ocareeedf the NavV.'" '
In contrast to, the lag.;4uctl
ship building prograM,IlY_a
said the Russians are- gong!
full Speed ahead with the
struetion Of a matin navy
armed with the latest wi I'
ons.
Disclosures Made
trtini to make the z,?4e
for 'ern ipg On the Multi-
billion do lar ilatn building
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WA Wei Jay La I LAN ? -
ower lase and Sup
private moments cif personal exas-
n former Secretary of Defense Rob-
Namara would complain to friends
be way to end the Military-Industrial
ex ' is to end the seniority system in
have gime a step further and of-
evidence as Exhibit A the person-
ucius Mendel Rivers, the prideful
ery chairman of the House Armed
ornmittee.
wy-maned South Carolinian seems
rid deed to regard himself as the
nt of Article I, Section 8 of the
on:
ongress shall have power . . . to
support armies . . provide and
a Navy . . . make Rules for the
ent and Regulation a the land and
(Kees."
e words are emblazoned in gold like
upon the 'elevated desk from which
oks down at the generals and admi-
civilian secretaries who come be
Committee for military goods and
ouse Armed Services Committee is
pal legislative spillway through
ilitary industrial influence flows in
on.
he stroke of a pen, it can sanction
Ilion dollar nuclear frigates that ad-
dare not request. It may provide
s of aircraft no Air Force general
eriously consider for his inventory.
rmamis Secretaries of Defense with
aplomb that an aldermanic board
reserve for the village drunk.
while Rivers' }louse Armed Services
tee is only one of the four commit-
h a voice in military matters, it has a
otion of originating authorization
the opinion of one Committee mem-
as the unique reputation of asking
on witnesses, "Do you have enough?"
of the more natal, "Do you really
o have it?"
444
E YEARS ago, there used to be what
known as the "FearlesaFive" opposing
s and his majority on military authori-
matters. Today the consistent opposi-
the 40-member Committee is down to
Reps. Robert L. Leggett (D-Calif.),
Pike (D-N.Y.) and Lucien N. Nedzi
ch), with an occasional assist across
sle from Rep. Charles W. Whalen (R-
Ike the Senate, with fewer members
multiple committee' assignments, a
e member hti to make the best of the
ijor committee he is given, hope to be
to a reasonable number of subcone
m a- and Mendel willing,
s sMirtirifahhenrinnittee ehairman-
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meant, according to debate on the House
floor by Congressman Leggett, that ONA
would then receive some $20.8 million in an-
nual military carrying business compared to
the $6 million it has been getting.
When the entire 218 billion Military Pro-
_ ? _ _
curement Authorizhtion Bill went into con-
ference with the Senate, Sen. Howard W.
Cannon (D-Nev.) suddenly whisked out a
whole exchange of letters between Rivers
and Defense Secretary Clark Clifford and
Air Force Secret are Harold Brown. The cor-
respondence made It perfectly clear. that the
Pentagon didn't welcome Rivers' demand for
a change to jets which would.do away with
an adequate propeller service and cost con-
siderably more.
"I just knew it was a helluva bamboozle,"
Cannon said in recalling the incident the
other day. "I had the letters read into the
record and at the end Rivers just threw his
hands into the air."
By the time a compromise was reached, the
controversy had +ielayed the Nation's $21.6
billion Military Procurement Authorization
Bill in conference for two months,
through the presidential party conventions.
eeeo
LAST SUMMER'S Military Procurement
Bill also containee authorization for the
then "Sentinel" Anti-Ballistic Missile, a mul-
ti-billion dollar item now so 'predominantly in
the public eye but then apparently so insig-
nificant that Chairman Rivers, according to
his colleagues, hardly sew fit to mention it
in his congressional presentation.
Similarly, his Committee colleagues say,
Chairman Rivers has hardly seen fit to men-
tion the tremendous cost overrun in Lock-
heed's contract to beild the C-5A. plane. As a
matter of fact, t- Immittee chief counsel
John R. (Russ) Blandfeerd spent considerable
time two weeks age behind closed doors, of
course, telling Committee members 'there
CHARLESTON
Air Force Base
Polaris Missile Facility
.Naval Shipyard
Navy Fleet Ballistic Missile
Submarine Training
Naval Supply Center
Naval Weapons Station
Naval Statiorg
Naval Hospital
Army Depot
BEAUFORT'
Marine Corps Air Station
Monne Corps Recruit Depot
Naval Hospital
? Beaufort.
White House Assistant for Congressional Re-
lations, Bryce N. Harlow, counseled the Pres-
ident to look further.
Blandford also enjoys an unusual relation-
ship with the rest of the Congressmen on
the Committee. Qe member (the mbers
caution they can't afTi5rd to e note di-
d)
said that when he once phoned Blandford
for help in preparing a speech Blandford
commanded: "Be at my office at 7 a.m. " and
then hung up the phone. eteleah_e_eeieleW
Blandford tried to intereerte_3yith the Penta-
gon to prevent him (the_CanarsEmaletium
ger:fling a theciet' A third re-
ca="1-5t?w et==vers, Some years` back,
was particularly anxious to get through a
military pay raise bill with the Rivers name
on it, Blandford telephoned the Congress-
man to inquire: "You're with the Chairman,
aren't you?" "You're not going to vote
against him, are you?"
Gees
DURING THIS year's supplemental Mili-
tary Procurement Authorization hearings,
the ones which authorized the Northrop F-5
subsidy, Blandford used the occasion to vol-
unteer: "I think it simply boils down to this
. . . if we can't authorize the money to re-
tool the company that can manufacture the
F-5, then, as sure as I am sitting here in this
chair, before we can finish, somewhere
along the line, either this year or next,
Chinese Nationalists, the Koreans, the Viet-
namese, the Thais, the Greeks, the Turks,
will be getting F-4s at a much higher price
?because we are going to have to keep
them in business, or get out. That is all
there is to it. We might as well face the
fact."
A few minutes later, in expanding ou the
Chairman's comment about there being no
F-5s in Latin America, Blandford came up,
ex parte: "We lost the market down there."
A bit earlier in the same hearing, in touting
the superior qualities of the F-5 as a U.S. ex-
port product, Blandford saw fit to assure the
Committee: "I don't own any Northrop
stock."
While the Rivers-Blandford team is the
mainstay of the House Armed Services Com-
mittee, some of the congressional members
are aware of what is occasionally called the
"Steering Committee," sometimes the "Pol-
icy Committee." Who exactly is on it, and
how many of them, apparently is not a mat-
ter of official Committee record. But the
chosen few are believed by the unchoseni
majority to rendezvous in Puerto Rico each
Christmas time to discuss the coming year's
agenda. Then, at the opening of each con-
gressional session, Riandford hands Rivers a
list of 10 or 11 resolutioM authoriging his
powers as Chairman. They are duly voted by
a membership which thereafter finds itself
completely subject to its Chairman's whims.
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or the EiVerlige 'three to
e Chairthan
rme
tee hroeeir idler the 'retirement
or eilllair(D-Va.). Chairman Riv-
enly saw fit to reorganize the Sub.
make himself chairman and
e off entirely.
4 used toe_nave_10 minutes o
eeeeesgweel,t,tOnekPeentagpu W4iness.: as they len Iv;
and sented their constituents in examinipei the:
-teet
Defense Department's lion's share of the na-
really wasn't an ove run and that the C-5A
isn't really costing te, s Nation much at all.
And when it came to the pyramiding costs
on Lockheed's new Cheyenne battle helicop-
ter, Congressman Pike apparently found it
so difficult to gain his Chairman's interest
he decided to inter] )gate the Army on his
AIRY authorization, with Chairman he
and put out hie own findings without
amp gets a quick wave past from
A4-7.444
se Rules Committee and splendid co-
oh from an admiring Speaker John
ormack (D-Mass.) for a smooth pes-
tle floor,
ly, when there was a little unex-
trouble from Pike over the pyramid-
eats irom Lockheed for the new Chey-
ffe helicopter, Chairman Rivers had
McCormack step down from the
a say a few words.
,the nittianai interest of our coun-
-concerned'," the Speaker declared, "if
g to err in judgment I would
on the side of strength. . I am
folio* the leadership Of the gem
m South Carolina (Mr. Rivers)." thing," Rivers declared. But Stratton has
ear Rivers took by surPriie e'en said no more.
nttee stalwarts by urging a $14
arter on a $82 million subsidy ALTHOUGH INT es Congressional Direc-
Op Aviation. This is to help- the tory listing the Louse Armed Services Com-
etool its P-5 "Freedom Fighter" to mittee consists of 40 members, 23 Democrats
or export sales with France's Mys- and 17 Republicans, thesie?farailielr with Its
Of Rivers' closest colleagues, Rep.
the blessing of a subcommittee.
Chairman Rivers, who traditionally has
shown less interest ie the Army than he has
in either the Air Force or Navy, did show in-
terest this year in oidering an investigation
into reports of cost overruns in the Army's
MBT-70 "Dream Tank," a joint venture by
General Motors, Chrysler and Germany's
Daimler-Benz. The MBT-70, with over $1 bil-
lion already sunk into it, now is expected
never to roll.
However, When congressman Stratton pub-
licly referred to the tank as a "billion dollar
boo-boo," Rivers thought that was going too
far. "I'm not tryine to put the lid on any-
inner workings say. ethe_ereeseelially
(Doc) Hall (E-Mo.), felt 'repelled ? Iver , who
u re within the closed-doOr hearing has sat in Congress 28 of his 3 yea s and
hrop itself wasn't paying for its
41 II A I
: t
been Cominittee cheirman for the past four
lag. ,, zele_cedeesemeeseewelateet a onetime Re-
doesn't happen in the industry, publican lawyer fram Buffalo, a tough,
rig transcript has Rivers respond- blunt-speaking brigadier general In the Me-
etly does." rine Corps Reserve weo appears in Commit-
elss after its benediction at the tee group photos sitting in the very center
Ws hands, the River's-Northrop ' of the congressiona, members with tha rest
t was approved by the House, 341 of the professional staff strewn below, and
wi}o, always is referred to in Com , 0
healing transcripts as, "Mr," just lik'e 'e
Congressmen.
nay.
f14.1
ULY, Chairman Rivers suddenly
tack an amendment onto the 'VIM-
cieurement Authorization Bill requir-
the freight airlifted from one do-
military bake to another be car-
et planes instead of thetraditional
ere -Powered craft.
43
w
ant that Overseas National Air-
ose then chairman George Tomp- vanced to make him Secretary of the Navy. It
..?..,...._?
Blandford, who almost daily can be f un
lunching at his special- alcove table in Cap
tol Hill's, plush Rotunda Restaurant--elinalley
with, a defense ry representative Len-
jeye a fine tandem relationship with the
Chairman. This almost, Was interrupt-a?Nil
year when Blandford's cause was be eige
Rivera f end, would be -1133rfli e some ev eecause a onethne
_ ?
6_9 the milt- wasiZU ;on the ee.,
trona, ca aturn Airways. It Armed Serv tes Ceretnittee staff and now
s e t? fv"T 7
er,
tional b d et 11 tl t d
ug Buta la abruptlychange
this year when one member sleepily ex-
pressed surprise that the individual ques-
tioning time wasn't five minutes, as he had
assumed. Chairman Rivers immediately rec-
tified that little time-saver and now has in-
stalled an alarm clock which bongs the end
of each Congressman's five minutes time at
bat.
Members out of favor with Rivers say they
find themselves showing up at the closed-
door 10 a.m. meetings expected to raise their
hands and vote "aye" to a pile of documents
they've had no time to study. Hearings
usually complete their cycle on Thursday
afternoon. Minority views must be in by Fri-
day. The military authorization then quickly
moves to the House Rules Committee the
following Monday. Even committee members
have their first chance to see the actual
committee report when the bill is on the
floor?and usually passed?on Tuesday.
Mendel Rivers once confided to a col-
league: "I could defeat Strom Thurmond
any clay in the week. But I don't want to be
South Carolina Senator. I've got the most
powerful position ? in the U.S. Congress."
Taking into consideration the $80 billion De-
fense spending program over which he pre-
sides and his political home town of Charles-
ton, bristling with land and sea bases and
airfields and other installations, it is highly
'tempting to agree with him.
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vers
y MARY McGRORY
Star Staff Writer
o outhtar-
the White-Mined chair-
of theldouse ArthedServ-
oinmitte , is once again
_g o e aid of the
The Pentagon is under
and he is &fending. the
.;tome ctzens, the mili-
establishment displays
CJIgracterittics of the
igger, demanding every
an the market and
ssly inicidIed'in her ac-
OI,IiVers, it is a maid-
;stress. -
pIe'philosophy guides
in his management of
infeee: 'Of-Ye the little
anything she wants. Hang
tiense.
vers thinks that the ,mili-
can do no WrOne
h recent evidence to the
contrary is mounting on land,
and air.
,
Chain of Incidents _
e Pueblo commander is
tened with a cOurt-
lor giving nn half i
The Cheyenne -hell.-
wonq fly. The Sheridan
won't fire. An atomic
aline sinks out of sight hi
ock, and the CA - -air-
o costs are soaring into
e wild blue yonder.
Rivers tread these Multibil-
lion dollar gods as little laps-
es which come about because
the civilians in the Pentagon
are lamentably ordering his
heroes, the Men- in uniform,
around.
Recently, he has Witnessed
offensives by members of Con-
gress who are not under his
cemmand, and therefore not
susceptible to his iron disci-
pline. He was appalled when a
fellow emperor, Re George
, Mahon of Texas- :k-rialif
Appropriatio
i.suggested that
WIciwanco, elle7-11141k
was 4tatUNTE t, T1 I
and playing f mit s
the enemies a the natary, of ,
which "the Senate is hill."
,
of the-05A plane, which the
Joint Economic Committee
Sayt is costing g $2.1 billion
more than the principal con-
tractor, Lockheed, said it
would when if signed the con-
tract.
The chief counsel fo the
committee, John R. Blandford,
read an extraordinary "state-
ment of the chairman." which
was not distributed to mem-
bers, in which Rivers exoner-
ated the Air Farce in advance
from all blame.
"Trouble he growled,
"men in uniform have to de-
fend what civilians have
done."
A Genial Query
The ffie offfeers in Air
Force blue were treated with
an indulgence ;And compassion
that member i- of the eon:Unit-
tee never receive.
"Don't all aircraft have an
over-run?" he inquired genial-
ly. Lac?kited has a plant in
Rivers' district
Rep. Otis P
enta on
does not seem 'to Int
place, attacked the Air Force
contention that increases in
the cost of living, in the size of
the plane and in spare parts
charges, explained everything.
He said he found it "incredi-
ble."
Rivers despises detail in dis-
cussions of the military-
industrial complex. As: far at
he is concerned, the military
makes the blueprints, the-in-
dustrialists build them, and
the taxpayers should-be grate.
ful for the security they have,
billion dollars in "oVer-ruii."
and not quibble over several
"We are your voice-in Con-
gress," Rivers once told an
Air Force general who was
about to testify.
Even for Rivers, the defense
of the Defense Depart-Mini
may be a formidable fat/
these days. But he has Mika
his stand, chosen his scape
goat, and is confident that aft
er the firing has stoppettbs
still be stan?nl
ii. ? tiard.
-Moorhead Critical
And Rep. William Moor-
head of Pennsylvania, a gen-
tlemanly Democrat, who has
lately been protesting that mu-
sts come to Con-
ed -in secrecy
and wrapped in the flag,"
went on television and said
that "some members of Con-
gress have dealt so long with
the military and with the de-
fense contractors that they be-
tiii-to think they are without
fault.'
Rivers fired off a letter sum-
moning Moorhead to "ex-
plain" himself before the
Armed Services Committee.
When Moorhead said he
would be happy to do so in
0-mats's-Ion, Rivers retreated.
The chairman knows that
-there- a-re evil forces at work,
and he has known all along
who they are ? "the systems
analysis crowd" brought in by
former Secretary of Defense
Robert S. McNamara.
"They are bringing disre-
spect and derision on military
'the_ have not made a
eciligiPl_over there since Mc-
Tar 4 daT)COD420 the doors of
tke Pentagon," he says.
Rivers knoiivs whose side he
is on.,
He proved it anew as he
conducted his "investigation"
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WASHINGTON .V?Jo
On
for.Recor
I,3y13ernard
Wasbilsigion I4os
ep. L. Mendel Rivers (D-
a hawk aniong hawks,
eidarflew some peace
eTS for his colleagues in
reSs.
'wn :the memory hole of
ongresSional "(deleted)"
rd welit-the saltier pas-
trhis bitter Tuesday
6. With Rep. George
(1VrelOY.
'into 'the indulgence
brit RilierS' 'imperial
" 'William
of the Me-
n' pratilite
filehlbers.
ve-reft be-
t"SipetVritteti ac-
tilt
D. Nossiter
t staff Writer
ograpliert to, facilitate the
process.
Rivers, chanroan of the
...azucLag. ,,commitiaP,
has long ago made "(de-
leted)" the most familiar
word in tie transcripts of his
group's printed nearings.
The c.,...)urgated Tuesday
Record oeprives its subscri-
bers of 6.evera1 gems, among
them Rivers telling Mahon,
rhea!) of the A
YOUplaying trite,?
bands a, the enemies of
military': %lid the enenlieST,,,
of the pulikary u -
for sayin,g,it4'
See DELETE A
IVIaffon'ps esnutgaggeosn-
ug tititive on $80 billion
year if it made fewer mis
,akes.
Although the Record was
censored, the wire services
carried full accounts of the
Rivers-Mahon duel and it
will remain preserved in
hundreds of newspaper flies
across the country.
Accosted by a reporter in
the House Speaker's lobby
yesterday, Rivers explained
that he and Mahon had met
after their duel "and dis-
cussed it."
"There was no point in
our two committees fighting
each other," the courtly Riv-
ers explained. "That doesn't
help anybody."
Rivers required Mahon's
help to make the edited ex:-
change read simx)thly
Mahon apparently con-
sented, but he was careful
to withdraw none of his own
animadversions on military
bumbling.
,Tbe South Carolinian,
vibpse rule over his Corornit-
the hits been compared to
ion ?VW-MET
hands; tva$
ond ih6Vits
and tolTrelre
eek Rivers or-
, _
_oorreacl to appear
he Committee and
ii his televiSiciii
11 that sorrie7::
are too unefttlal
entagon and ifs con-
de. V!',kre
p: bad a nice talk on
Jelephone,"
tViNiv:lecl,
and he expIaniel
1:satisfactorily."
said be now sawltio
examine Moorheaa
epy unless the Ni
g-
11 himself wantea-te
Q-ihead, who survived
ball-to-eyeball en-
rhy mail with Rivers
and watched the other-44h:
blink, said primly:
"I'd only come if I were
Invited."
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coree
airman
Jomt icitiNEy
-f-Times
ASHINGTON', May T-tfn- e chairman of th
'ations C e added his voice today
icism o e en a that t'-e
W.agy was imparririg
_
rtinlidence by its "many
-kes." -
tioism by Wept-6-8-01th:
_ _
orge -Mahon, Texm
, provoked -1711-4eN.
acerbic floor ?inthi
and-the cirmar
ffeprekritat-TvGreic
vets, Democrat of i'Soutl
-
normally soft ioice ris?
a ner, Mr. RiVer -tolc
n:
You. _are _playing into Th enetnie
and the other Voiej
e Ste] is full afithe-in?
e of their colleagues,
e heated argument illustrated
than-ing Congratalona1Imal
toward' the Teritra!toniggitnthe militaes
?
Congress ori7ge're-.
?11-tor.-ns:
. Mon and 1Vir-1fIVeTS
TIk as leders of that estab-
nt As chairman of the
ices Commitf'e
authorizedTfl
ni.a- then Mr./Mon
,
---- -
serves as c
,
rosriations corn=
4140)111,.1,41,96-1, has
wer?e
the s was.,
a on, as chWrnan
it committee, Ted
6 the 'floor a7sUlTii:
rbpriations Siirj565-
02.9-billion-e71114
eilinfent-Spefinig,
e military, in Jf
Eal-year.
-give River-a"
such a ceilin- wou
Ute to new -
Hilary spen.
ivers ston"ii:Te
r. Mahon
rtary had "gin
cof confidenr:ty
_
,manyliistakes."
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. .1.1i; an bairn pTe, l'i? t 7i ed how
TIM' Nivy Through --legiert"
IMMIWIErliksamess-- " had permit-
Sed a $50-million nuclear sub-
-marine under construction at
4he Mare Island Naval Shipyard
Is California to sink to the
*ottom last week. The Te7tan
jutid he had been informed that
* would cost $25=rra1n to
I:Ilse and repair the submarine
'money that he observed was
ifown the drain."
Predicts Promotion
;;....--zn a sarcastic jab at the
.,=ned services, the Ike- of
which he had seldom nificU Ili
Ifte past, Mr. Mahon said he
Itsis- "afraid" that the Officer
-In charge of the shipyard, in-
stead _of _being_ court-m misted,
smuld be transferred aid Oven
t--prothotiOn.
-Storming -back from the rear
of- the House cheurt*, c' Mr.
'Rivers grabbed a mierspione
aagI tpld his colleague:
"This is the way to -ter
(Wm- the military. That Wm*
arthe most popular till ' symi
d say. Keep on syJnj
the enemies of the
*tit love you for saying It':-
"ill the normally gel's! Mr.
Ifsvers was in an irritablernood,
perhaps one reason was that Ile
lipi just been forced 14 aorne
qUis ownsommittee --Orribers
Into a publie-fieiRg Ti?
Kir Force's C--5A jet i
Iftject, which has h?,e-h,
celehre _among `
military cities. --
---As he made clear z.-_the-out-
tgot, Represtntative Rivers -held
the hearings to rebut charges
t there had been a ilZ?bllion
cdt overniii in the produttio
eir tite plane by the Lorliteed
Aircraft Corp.
- =-1?Inaccurate' Estimates
-'--Aii-he "extilefried literrtb the
Mottle,- there /tad beer no cost
itverruns," just some ,-
etrate" estimates of cost;istuch
thes gested _resulteo from ilse
,w4ay rt
iner Defense Score.- ,
tary obert S. MchT3rriataran
Vie -'1/-- entagon-.? -,-- ?
Sitit after twohours ofa de-
-tailed- ,illustrated briefing by
a-platoon of Air Fort offkers,
the COrnniittee wound -Ip admit-
tedly confuse4 on -how The Air
tprce figured' the riane was
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Much of the confusion was
over the basis of .comilariSbn
being used by Maj. tierOrreorrias
rey Jr., direeter of pro-
m and progran---iiiri ,
the Air Force case.
Iliejtarting point in the Aii
fi4cf,,,case was an estimate o'
Octeber, 1964, th?t6bTk
con-13,116,000,000 to develo;
and produce 120 of the planes
By October, 1968, the Air Fore(
said its estimate has risen lc
$4,348,000,000.
Adjustments and rareacw?
That, according to The Ail
Force, left a $1,232,00%000 dif
ference. And this difference
General Jeffrey explained witt
the use of colored charts, could
be explained by "adjustments'
$500-million for inflation
-3350-million for a larger air.
craft than originally estimated,
and $382-million for "technical
difficulties."
But as the committee coun-
sel, John R. Blandford, noted,
the original 1964 estimate was
made by the Air Force before
the contract was aivarffed---to
Lockheed. Furthermore, he
pointed out, this estimate was
higher than the $2,985,000,000
contract awarded to Lockheed.
Noting that some of the ad-
justments" now being cliff-fled
by the Air Force, such as a
larger plane, must have been
Included in the original con-
tract price, Mr. Blandford ?b-
oned, "I am completely con-
fused." On such matters, rnr.
Illanford, a retired marine gen-
eral, is Mr. Rivers's closest ad-
viser.
Under questioning, General
Jeffrey acknowledged that
Lockheed probably had deliber-
gely "shaved" its price, as
WeU as underestimated the cost
afrieveloping the plane, to win
the, contract.
Denies Big Profits
Blit he insisted that the corn-
_
pally would not mike any.
"'windfall profits" on the proj-
ect, as indicated ?by the fact
that Air Force estimates showed
Lockheed would lose $2S5-mil-
lion in producing 120 of the
Planes.
Representative Otis G. Pike,
Dimocrat of Suffolk County,
Injected a new note in the
A controversy by argifing
that the Air Force might have
Otteeded its authority by con-
-tracting for a second run of
31 planes before the purchase
_bad been approved by Con-
_sress. The Air Force explana-
tion was that it had used $72-
Million left over from last
year's appropriations to place
the order, with the stipulation
that the order would be can-
'vied if the necessary addition-
funds were not approved by
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Star Staff Writer
reup between two House
t'alls of military spending,
;Atiiiir ? .? mmittee
inlaid George Mahon of Tex-
airman en ie Riv-
_ outh Carolina, alvarent-
tvin be lost to congressional
fory.
he angry attack by Rivers,
IT that Mahon, by en-
$192.3 billion spending
on next year's federal
et; aids "enemies of the
IV' has been stricken
the ffificial record of House
s.
brief outburst came dur-
ing discussion ye
administration's request for a
$3.8 billion supplemental budget
for the current year. A final vote
on the bill, which contains $226
million for defense, is set for
today.
It was apparently the spending
ceiling for fiscal 1970 that pro-
voked Rivers to turn on his fel-
low Defocrat Mahon, and say:
"You are playing 1st? the bands
of the enemies of the military
and the other body (the Senate)
is full of them."
Cites Weapons Cost
Rivers said the politics of cur-
rent national opinion could leave
the military e cuts
o stay within the
spending limit.
In addition, he said the devel-
opment of new weapons often
costs more than anticipated. As
an example, he said increased
expenses on the controversial
C-5A plane are not overruns, but
merely the inevitable extra cost
of building new military equip-
The C5A's prime contractor,
the Lockheed Aircraft Corp., an-
nounced today that the plane,
the world's largest jet cargo
craft, had flown at its heaviest
weight-728,100 pounds. The C5A
exceeded its designed gross
takeoff weight by 100 pounds
when it lifted off from Dobbins
Air Force Base in Georgia on
confidence in
re haVe been tanks that
't Vlork and planes that don't
Instead of pushing forward
mine of these projects, V:-
shid the militaryought to 1.,e
g to admit its mistakes.
rec'efitty-, 1Vlahen noted. a
Mine Sank abruptly at its
lii?taiifornia's Mare s-
a.yy--baSe. -He said that
ffl cost the govern-
, _ _ _
.
-Adicted that the man
_bl?r sinking the sub
li'-ailderred and promot-
fifer Than
artinied
a tew
ers re
That's one of the mbSt pqm-
lar things you can say. . . .
Keep on saying it. The enemies
of the military will love you.
1-le suggested the sub was a
victim of sabotage, not error.
Rivers then turned and walked
off the House floor.
Later, Rep. Robert L.
Sikes, D-Fla., also eipt-esSed
fear of defense cuts. He Owed-
ed there have been "a SAL* Of
blunders, some of them et:da-
le said the eb-st "tif
quipment VEigh
a test flight this mo
heed said.
Rivers predicted that military
needs will be cut to "sirdther-
eens" next year and complained
that Congress "hasn't got the
guts to get out here and stop
some of the crazy grains
we've got." He men the
war on poverty as one.
Denial by Mahon
Mahon, who also serves as
chairman of the latbcommittee
on the defense budget, denied he
is anti-military. But he saki he is
concerned that "so many mis-
takes" have been made by the
military lately that people are
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WASHINGTON l'Ub
(Eiqit4nan.?ers
Clash on Arms Cut
'ternarcl D. Nossiter
sitititarri-pst siEi;fr-WrItei
pecitge H. Mahon (1)-Tex.) and L. Mendel River
-
two military powers, clashed head-o)
y over restrictionon Pentagon spending.
the dust settled, a startled chamber heard Ma
=non of the 4 .ro
ilitary has mat so so map
k of confidence.*--
ticularly cited fal
s quick-sinking_
e Guittaro, whic
d cost $25 million
vacua
chairman of THE
me. Servic'6s torrimitn?
'80,04 Mahon of "p a n
Into the lands of the eneirlirs
of the military," and aigirg
stalked off the flouse floor.
The heated exchange wat
markable on several
Chairmen of powerful Itinise
committees almost never EITY0
rel in public.
Furthermore, both Rivers.
and Mahon, who also heidS
the Military ApproptiatIOtit
Subcommittee, have earliel
reputations for promoting Mil-
itary expenditures and defend-
ing the services. For Mahon to
suggest that something lat
gone Wittig reflects the iieW
and critical mood seeping
through Congress.
The fight began as Melia'
spoke in behalf of a supple-
mental appropriations bill that
contains a limit of $192.9 bil-
lio Federal Spending,
In
PLANE, From Al
-Rivers jumped up to corn
Pain:
'Whenever we look for re-
-Auctions, everybody looks to
the military. This Congress
hasn't got the guts to get out
here and stop some Oi the
--crazy programs we've goL"
?ha an. example of a "crazy"
program, the white-maned leg-
islator mentioned the Job
Corps.
Mahon quietly replied that
tl curb would still leave the
Pentagon with $80 billion,
enough, he suggested, "if the
military is run properly."
He then observed that the
military's many mistakes had
cost it public confidence. This
drew Rivers' retort that
Mahon was feeding the Penta-
gon's enemies "and the other
them."
MahonSenate) is full of
Mahon coolly responded
with his example, the sudden
submersion of the $50-million
Guittaro off Vallejo, Cal.
Mahon called this a -humilia-
tion" for the military and its
Congressional friends,
at a little afraid," he
ued, "that the corn-
er of the Navy Yfird is
; going to be cotirt-mat-
I am afraid he will
bly be transferred and
oted."
uriated, Rivers shot beck:
at is one of the most
ar 'things you could
on saying it and the elle-
of the military will love
or saying it.
as a bad for 'Rivers
, he h
d to 1101
g into th
overrun on the
Members said it was
time the whole committee had
been briefed on the big Lock-
heed plane and it came six
years after they had begun au-
thorizing the $2.487 billion ap-
proved for 58 planes so far.
The members watched a
squad of Air Force generals
and colonels put on a slide
show in technicolor, aimed at
convincing them that the over-
run had been exaggerated,
that the contract with Lock-
heed was not very generous
and that the plane was a su-
perb performer.
Rivers was convinced and
had no trouble in obtaining
Air Force assent to his view
that anyone speaking of a $2-
billion overrun does so "igno-
rantly, loosely or not in a fac-
tual situation."
But several of his colleagues
betrayed skepticism. Rep. Wil-
liam L. Dickenson (R-Ala.)
complained that the Air Force
was using a "fictitious" base
from which to make its cost
comparisons. Rep. Samuel S.
Stratton (D-N.Y.) won a quali-
fied admission that Lockheed
had deliberately underbid the
contract in the expectation of
getting well later. Rep. Alex-
ander Pirnie (R-N.Y.) was irri-
tated by the generals' "hypo-
thetical calculations" and
"hazy ideas."
Rep. Charles W. Whalen Jr.
CR-Ohio), who was
Rivers as the "representa-
tive from Wright-Patterson
Air Force Base," suggested
that the overruns were even
than advertised if Lock-
was taken as the
Several corA,itent critics of
iTh'irWaste also spoke out.
Rep. 0 is . i e (D-N.Y.) ob-
served that the Air Torce-has
already signed a $550-million
contract with Loeltheed for a
second batch of 23 planes al-
though Congress has author-
ized only $72 million. Liter,
he said he intends 'to ask the
Committee to approve no
more dollars now for the C-5A.
If the program is cut off at
58 planes the Air Force esti-
mates Lockheed would lose
$672 million or nearly twice its
stockholders' equity. However,
Lt. Gen. Marvin KeNickle, the
Pentagon's Deputy Director
for Research and Engineering,
was quick to tell Rivers that
both Lockheed and the Office
of the Secretary of Defense
thought the Air Force loss fig-
ure was wrong.
Lockheed officials Oki set a
chance to explain Oils anti
other C-5A items at another
unusual hearing to he 'held by
the Senate Armed Force Com-
mittee next month. Chairman
John Stennis (D-Miss.) an-
nounced that the Air Force
will testify about the plane on
June 3 and Lockheed the next
day.
Meanwhile, Sen. William
Proxmire (D-Win), who first
uncovered the $2-billion over-
run, complained that the Air
Force was covering up still an-
other. This one involves the
Short Range Attack Missile
(SRAM) which Proxmire esti-
mates has jumped 250 per
cent, from $143 million to $359
million.
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