VISIT OF DR. CONDON TO NPIC, 20 FEBRUARY 1967

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP79B00752A000300100004-1
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 3
• Document Creation Date: December 23, 2016
• Document Release Date: June 26, 2013
• Sequence Number: 4
• Publication Date: February 23, 1967
• Content Type: MEMO

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MEMORANDUM FOR TEE RECORD
SUBJECT: Visit of Dr. Condon to NPIC, 20 February 1967
1. The U.S. Air Force has let a S300,000 contract to the
University of Colorado to study reported UFO sightings. Brig.
Gen. Edward B. Gillers, USAF, is senior Air Force contact and
Dr. Thomas Rachford is senior Air Force Scientist on the project.
The senior scientist from the University of Colorado is
Dr. E.U. Condon.
2. On 20 February 1967 at 0915 Dr. Condon and four members
of his investigative team visited NPIC. With Dr. Condon were
Dr. Richard Lowe, University of Colorado, Dr. David Saunders,
University of Colorado, Dr. William Price, Executive Director
of AFRST, and Dr. Rachford, USAF. The purpose of this visit was
to familiarize Dr. Condon and members of his team with selected
photogrammetric and photographic analysis capabilities of NPIC.
3. The clearance level for the meeting was SECRET.
4. Upon arrival at NPIC, 0915, escorted the
group to Mr. Lundahl's office. In the ensuing 10-15 minute
discussion between Mr. Lundahl and Dr. Condon the following points
were clearly established:
a. Any work performed by NPIC to assist Dr. Condon
in his investigation will not be identified as work accom-
plished by CIA. Dr. Condon was advised by Mr. Lundahl to
make no reference to CIA in regard to this work effort.
Dr. Condon stated that if he felt it necessary to Obtain
an official CIA comment he would make a separate distinct
entry into CIA not related to contacts he has with NPIC.
b. NPIC will not prepare any written comments, will
not analyze information with the intent of drawing a
conclusion, nor prepare written reports. NPIC personnel
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will be available to assist Dr. Condon by performing work
of a photogrammetric nature, such as attemTtong to measure
objects imaged on photographs that may be part of
Dr. Condon's analysis. Work performed by NPIC will be
strictly of a technical nature using services and equipment
generally not available elsewhere.
5. Following this brief discussion in Mr. Lundahl's office
the group adjourned to the TID conference room where a series of
briefings was presented to Dr. Condon and his group. Following a
short introduction by the following briefings were
presented:
a. General discussion of photogrammetry, including
definition, terminology and, in general, what photogrammetry
is and what it can do. presented this
discussion.
b. followed
with a presentation of the analysis he had been conducting on
UFO photography furnished NPIC by Dr. Rachford.
discussion was of a general nature and outlined the problems
he had encountered because of lack of basic information,
such as camera focal length, make of camera, unspecified
enlargements, etc.
c. then gave a general discussion
on the microdensitometer and its application to image analysis.
d. Lt/Col. Dan Lufkin (TDS) followed this with a
presentation on isodensitometer experiments he has been
conducting.
e. then escorted the group into the
new clean area where they viewed and discussed the isoden-
sitometer and the new Mann Microdensitometer.
f. Returning to the conference room,
briefed the group on measuring instruments used in TID and
followed by a general presentation on the success and
failure TID had experienced in trying to measure objects
imaged on the second UFO project assigned TID. Following
this discussion then conducted the group into
the instrument area where the Point Transfer Device, Mann
880 Comparator, the Benson-Lehner Plotter and the NRI were
viewed by the group.
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6. At about 1215 escorted the group back to
Mr. Lundahl's office where a general discussion on UFOs ensued.
At about 1235 the group adjourned to lunch and following lunch
they left NPIC for a meeting with Brig.Gen Gillers at the
pentagon.
7. Most all the discussion during the morning was of an
unclassified nature dealing with primary basic fundamentals of
photogrammetry, photographic analysis and problems related to
the acquiring of enough information to conduct meaningful analyses.
Distribution:
Orig. - TID
1 - NPIC/0/Dir
1 - TID
Chief, Technical Intelligence Division
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