LETTER TO WILLIAM J. CASEY FROM RICHARD J. KERR

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Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Q0' Next 1 Page(s) In Document Denied STAT Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Central Intelligence Agency Office of the Deputy Director for Intelligence X31 JUL NOTE TO: Director of Central Intelligence This is an assessment I requested shortly after the crisis at Chernobyl. Richard r Deputy Director for Intelligence Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Iq Next 13 Page(s) In Document Denied Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 TOP SECRET MEMORANDUM FOR: Director of Central Intelligence FROM: Douglas J. MacEachin Director of Soviet Analysis SUBJECT: Possible Use of Forced Labor at Chernobyl' 1. This is to apprise you of our continuing efforts to ascertain_ whether the Soviets are using forced labor in cleanup operations at Cher'. Thus far, the evidence is 4. Three forced labor camps are located within 100 kilometers of the Chernobyl' Nuclear Power Plant. The forced labor camp at Mozyr' lies about 90 kilometers to the northwest with access by a hard-surfaced road; a camp to the south near Kiev is 130 kilometers by road from the power plant. Each of these camps confines 1,700 to 1,800 prisoners. The camp in the city of Chernigov, about 90 kilometers by rail from the power plant, houses 600 to 700 forced laborers. In addition, seven other forced labor camps are located within 161 kilometers of the TOP SECRETI Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 25X1 25X1 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 TOP SECRET 6. have reported Soviet use of forced labor in the mining, processing and utilization of radioactive matter: -- In the 1950s, political prisoners were used in the extraction of uranium in Kol ma in the Wort ern Ura s in t e 196 s reported that prisoners were bein used in the a uranium there. that prisoners under capital sentence were sent to uraniqm mines, jin Centra Asia in the mi Os report that prisoners were used in the extraction of urani imated that the loss of life was high. prisoners which y produced metal mesh for heavy artillery, and that rumors had circulated about an increase i ioactivity and cases of terminal cancer. 7 that his factory had a secret workshop manned b~v -- A former political prisoner has written a book that locates 41 camps were prisoners were used for the extraction and processing of uranium ore, or for labor in institutions dealing with wa s badly contaminated by a nuclear weapons plant-- (report of the Kyshtym disaster in the ate 1950s--in which a large area in the Urals 25X1 25X1 25X1 25X1 25X1 25X1 25X1 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 concluded that prisoners serving long terms did most of the cleanup at Kyshtym in exchange for pardons and early eleases (the sort of arrangement tioned for the work at Cherno report notes that prisoners used at Kyshtym were referred to as "death squads" or "death brigades." (Soviet diplomats have reportedly referred recce to Chernobyl' as a "zone of orlyi 25X1 25X1 Our best judgment is that the Soviets have used forced labor extensively in uranium mining. At least in recent years they probably have not used forced labor in nuclear weapons production because of security considerations and because skilled labor is needed. At Chernobyl', however, unskilled labor is needed for such tasks as purifying the soil and destroying forests. 25X1 7. -While working in an open area forced laborers require constant guarding. Usually they are confined in a fenced and heavily secured work area having guard towers along the periph prv-simila- to that which surrounds the Chernobyl' reactor 25X1 area. 8. There are indications that the Soviets are keeping contaminated vehicles within the 30 kilometer evacuation zone and that vehicles bringing equipment and supplies to the power plant are transloaded at the border of the 30 kilometer zone to prevent contamination. These transloading areas would be ideal places to use forced laborers; they would be located away from the main area of activity and they would provide a place for forced - laborers tot manual labor tasks of loading and unloading. 9. Considering the suitability of unskilled forced labor for many of the cleanup jobs at Chernobyl', and considering past Soviet willingness to use forced labor in hazardous work, the use of forced labor is plausible--but not confirmed. 10 We ill i . w cont nue to monitor f any indications that forced labor is present in Chernobyl'. T t__twwu9.Lt7 ac in 25X1 25X1 25X1 25X1 byl'). Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 IUP SECRETI SUBJECT: Possible Use of Forced Labor at Chernobyl' SOVA/DJMacEachin~(5 June 1986) Distribution: Copy 1 - DCI 2 - DDCI 3 EXDIR 4 - EX Reg 5 - DDI (for chrono) 6 - DDI Reg 7-8 - D/SOVA 9-12 - DPD/SI TOP SECRET 25X1 25X1 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 nnruI Ac rrc roncc or ['ornlrr Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 - Invi: LV. I LLnJL IIN I II'I IV REMOVE FROM DOCUMENTS THANKS... Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 RoUTIND AND TRAN$MmILL AV oM.: a JUN 1896 TO inm oft* syw*K mm mn*w. Executive Registry Dow Wy ~6 $1 Executive Secretar CT- -5-r F< ClsnMiee ftr cwww MI.a Fsr Csu8- 08 o FOWW PAW 1 Pff vow NO w"m 3es Me Joe qIj d n, b C( Iv~w e. S~u a/ 00 Ctn ~wvvnswa. ~tu~-rw-s_) FROM pwnM, o& symbol. AEWAY/Pert) - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Execuii,,e Reels" Central Intelligence Agency Office of the Deputy Director for Intelligence NOTE TO: Executive Secretary FROM: Executive Assistant/DDI SUBJECT: Odom's Request on Chernobyl The attached memo and article sent to Lieutenant General Odom last week by Dick Kerr addresses the points raised in Odom's memo to the DDCI. I don't believe another response is necessary. Please let me know if this is sufficient. Attachment: As stated Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 S5ECRET Central Int igence Agency 29 May 1986 MEMORANDUM FOR: Lieutenant General William E. Odom, U.S. Army Director, National Security Affairs Chernobyl Accident told me that you were interested in the long- 25X1 term impact of Chernobyl, particularly in the economic area. I have attached an article that we prepared on this subject. In addition, there is a paper underway on the impact of the accident on the Soviet nuclear power program (that paper will take at least another month). We are also working on a short paper that will try to assess the long-term health effects of the on working with o accident This nonce de ends heavil p y a r Deputy Director for Intelligence Attachment: As stated SECRET CL BY SIGNER Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 USSR: Economic Impact of the Chernobyl' Accident Preliminary analysis of the Chernobyl' nuclear accident indicates that direct damage to the Soviet economy will be relatively minor. Although the cost of the evacuation, decontamination, cleanup, im- ports of technical equipment and medical supplies, and some permanent resettlement will be large- perhaps as much as 25 billion rubles a 30-km zone around the plant. We estimate the population of this area to be 150,000 to 180,000, including the two towns of Pripyat' and Chernobyl' and the surrounding rural population. It is likely that many fled on foot-some with their live- stock-before vehicles arrived. In addition to the official evacuees, thousands of persons, mostly women and children, have left Kiev and other cities outside the 30-km area. damage to agriculture, industrial facilities, and the environ- ment will be limited to a fairly small area. None- theless, the potential loss of electric power this year could put a crimp in General Secretary Gorba- chev's hopes to get the new five-year plan off to a fast start in 1986.1 Preliminary calculations suggest workers and fire- men at the reactor site and local residents who were drawn to the area by the fire-perhaps as many as 200 to 300 persons-received potentially lethal doses of radiation. As of 21 May, the death toll was 15-13 from radiation and two from the explosion. Additional deaths among the heavily irradiated victims are expected in the next several weeks. Onlookers near the site would have inhaled consid- erable airborne radioactivity and may be among the hospitalized victims, who, according to Gorba- chev, numbered 299 on 14 May. People within 5 kilometers (km) of the site who were exposed to the initial radioactive plume could have received sub- stantial doses of radiation. An additional 25,000 to 30,000 persons who were exposed may have re- ceived enough radiation to show mild symptoms such as nausea, and these people will be at risk for future cancers The accident also forced-aflarge-scale relocation of many in the area. As of 13 May, Moscow acknowl- edged that 92,000 persons had been evacuated from It is difficult to estimate the cost of the evacuation, but assuming military units were involved, little incremental cost would accrue to the Soviets. Vol- unteers are housing many of the evacuees; and, if existing housing is properly decontaminated, resi- dents could begin returning within months. The Soviets reportedly are applying a polymer to the immediate area that can later be removed, taking contamination with it. The roofs of buildings are also being coated to prevent rain from washing radioactive debris into drainage systems. It is likely that permanent relocation will be required for some of the population. Indeed, in some areas, the evacu- ees are already being put to work. Impact on Agriculture The initial plume of radioactivity appears to have passed over an area covered largely by forests and swamps. Not more than 15 to 25 percent of the crop and pasture land in the Chernobyl' region would have been seriously affected. Soviet data show that the region accounts for a minuscule share of total Ukrainian farm output. Damage to farming regions beyond the immediate area of the accident is likely to be minimal. Because harmful levels of contamination are localized, we do not anticipate substantial, long-term effects on international com- modity supplies or trade Secret DI JEER' 86-02/ 23 Mat, 1986 25X1 25X1 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Secret What Happened in Chernobyl'? Our best estimate of the cause of the accident is that the reactor power suddenly surged, producing superheated steam. A reaction between superheat- ed steam and zirconium-alloy fuel cladding pro- duced hydrogen gas. The gas built up until it exploded, damaging the reactor and leading to fuel melting and afire in the graphite. The destruction of the reactor hall allowed large quantities of radioactivity to escape. The explosion reportedly knocked out the radiation alarm system, and officials at the site did not learn of the high levels of radioactivity until hours later. Two and possibly three persons were killed by the explosion, and at least 35 people at the site, including some of the firemen who responded, were exposed to lethal doses of radiation. Helicopters were used to drop sand, lead beads, clay, dolomite, and boron into the burning reactor. The fire was finally extin- guished on 11-12 May. The livestock sector may be more seriously disrupt- ed in the area. Indeed, we have already seen reports of livestock being slaughtered because of high radiation levels. Soviet press reports however, indicate many livestock were evacuated along with the population. Livestock that ingested contaminated feed before being evacuated should survive if quickly switched to clean feed. Except for milking cows, radioactive isotopes not excreted by these animals would be localized in organs general- ly not consumed by humans, such as the thyroid, and in bones. Some pastureland beyond the evacu- ated area may have to be taken out of use until radiation drops to acceptable levels, putting pres- sure on local supplies of stored feed. The local dairy industry will be most seriously affected because cows consuming radioactive feed concentrate radioiodine-the main contaminant- in their milk. Cows fed contaminated feed will produce hazardous milk for several weeks after switching to clean feed. Soviet dairy authorities will have to not only monitor the milk but also assure that cond does not reach black-market channels. Local Effects of Radiation on Agriculture The effects on farming activities near the site are likely to be varied. Although the affected area contains very small quantities of grain and sugar- beets, winter grains planted last fall and sugar- beets that are just emerging have been exposed to radioactive particles settling on leaves. Some of this radiation will be incorporated into the plants. Lightly contaminated grain may be mixed with clean grain during milling to dilute any harmful effects, but any heavily contaminated grain will have to be collected and disposed of. Sugarbeets exposed to radiation would tend to concentrate radioactivity in their roots and will likely have to be destroyed. According to US experts, spring grains and vegeta- bles can be planted in areas of light contamination because most of these crops-with the exception of sunflowers-do not absorb radiation through their roots. Danger to humans, however, could result from contaminated dust raised by machinery in fields during planting, subsequent field operations. and harvesting. Thorough monitoring and decon- tamination of workers, equipment, and crops in the areas adjacent to the evacuated zone will be necessary, slowing field work. Even in those areas where contamination is light, crops could suffer some losses if normal spring field operations are delayed. Workers may be kept from the fields as a safety precaution or diverted to cleanup opera- tions. Growing seasons in the USSR are short, and harvests are frequently disrupted by the early onset of winter. The Chernobyl' power plant is located just north of the Kiev Reservoir, which supplies the bulk of the drinking water for the Ukraine's capital. Some radiation was undoubtedly carried to the reservoir Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 by winds and by the two major rivers feeding it- the Pripyat' and the Dnepr. Fish, particularly freshwater shellfish, taken from these waters will also require monitoring for some time. The Soviets are building a 30-meter concrete wall into the ground around the complex to contain any contam- inated runoff or groundwater seepage. Soviet envi- ronmental authorities, however, maintain that reg- ular water samples are being taken from the Kiev Reservoir and that they show levels of radioactivity Local Industry An inventory of industrial facilities within the 30- km zone around the reactor reveals only a small number of civilian plants, including two concrete products plants, a machine-tool plant, perhaps 10 food-processing sites three tex t' a railroad repair yard. several of these facilities have been shut down-probably as a result of the evacuation order. How long they will be affected remains an open question, depend- ing on the degree of contamination and bow quickly the Soviets want to resume their operation. Moscow has already discussed bringing reactor units I and 2 at Chernobyl' back on line as quickly as possible, but local industry may not have such a high priority. In all likelihood, the accident disrupted-at least temporarily-electricity supplies beyond the 30-km area. All industries suffer problems in the event of brownouts or blackouts, but the largest users of energy-metals processing, cement, food process- ing, and chemicals-would be hardest hit from resulting damage to machinery and products in process. We have no information to date regarding specific disruptions in electric power supplies to local industry. In addition to electricity, industrial facilities depend on water for cooling and process- ing-. If irradiated water is used in processing, some end products could be affected, particularly in the chemical and food sectors. Electricity Supplies The shutdown of the four 1,000-megawatt (MW) reactors at Chernobyl' will probably have a wide range of effects. During the summer lull in electric- ity demand, the Soviets will be able to compensate for most of the power losses associated with Cher- nobyl' by using other generating capacity more intensively. Beginning in September, however, the upsurge in demand for electricity probably will eliminate most of the painless adjustment mecha- nisms. Moreover, we have good evidence that two reactors at Kursk identical to the damaged one at Chernobyl' may not now be operational. We cannot be certain whether these other reactors are com- pletely shut down or are operating at reduced power levels for safety reasons. Moreover, if they are in fact shut down, it is unclear that the Chernobyl' accident was the reason. Moscow, how- ever, probably would not disrupt the economy further by shutting down the remaining nine graphite-moderated, boiling-water reactors (RBMK) similar to those at Chernobyl' unless the cause of accident is judged to have stemmed from basic design faults. The confirmed shutdowns at Chernobyl' and the likely shutdowns at Kursk-assuming the latter reactors remain out of service for the remainder of the year and the power is not made up from other plants-would reduce Soviet electricity output in 1986 by about 25 billion kilowatt-hours (kWh), roughly 1.5 percent of the annual total. The im- pact, however, is concentrated on two power grids that would experience losses of about 10 percent. Power cuts of this magnitude, although unlikely, could seriously affect key economic activity in the Ukraine and Moscow regions: We believe the Sovi- ets will attempt to ease the impact by drawing electricity from adjoining grids, and possibly from more distant grids in the Urals and Kazakhstan. Moscow may also request that Czechoslovakia,. Bulgaria, Romania, and Poland reduce imports of electricity from the Ukraine-roughly 20 billig6 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Secret _ kWh was sent to these countries in 1985. Cutting the Soviets to at least put construction of new exports to Eastern Europe, however, may not be a RBMK reactors on hold temporarily. The Soviet politically attractive way to ease the crunch. decision to allow placement of nuclear plants closer The Soviets could compensate for the loss of elec- tricity over the next several months if they forgo maintenance-normally scheduled for the sum- to populated areas to supply centralized district heating systems-including one in Kiev-could be mer-at power plants using fossil fuels and operate them at full winter capacities. Moscow has already reported that one generating unit at a thermal power plant in Kiev, normally held in reserve at this time of the year, is now operating at full capacity to partially compensate for the loss of Chernobyl'. Seven other power plants in the Ukraine-four hydroelectric and three thermal-are also reported to be working at full capacity. Increasing output at conventional plants, however, is only a stopgap measure. Maintenance must still be performed, and if it is not finished by winter the Soviets will be hard pressed to meet the surge in electricity demand that will take place then. In any event, domestic supplies of fossil fuels will have to be supplemented with increases in domestic fuel production and possibly with imports, such as additional coal from Poland. The additional fuel required to offset the loss of the Chernobyl' reac- tors would amount to perhaps 150,000 barrels per day oil equivalent and half again as much if the other two reactors remain shut down. If domestic fuel oil supplies are used to generate replacement electricity for these six reactors, at the expense of exports of oil to the West, hard currency losses would amount to S 100 million per month at current prices. The Chernobyl' disaster is likely to result in some setback to the USSR's nuclear power program. The Soviets currently have 28,300 M-W of nuclear generating capacity, supplying some 11 percent of their electricity. Moscow's plans call for expansion of nuclear capacity to 70,000 MW by 1990, boost- ing the nuclear share of total electricity output to more than 20 percent. The accident may prompt t 25X1 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 ? EXECUTIVE SECREYARIAl' ROI iI\G tit 11' Compt D/OSWR D/SOVA IrA-E ACTION , INFO DATE INITIAL Remarks To 5: Please provide DDCI background info and a draft response. x utive Secretary 29 May 86 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 NOFORN- Not Releasable to Foreign Nationals NOCONTRACT- Not Releasable to Contractors or Contractor/Consultants PROPIN- Caution-Proprietary Information Involved USIBONLY- USIB Departments Only ORCON- Dissemination and Extraction of Information Controlled by Originator REL ... This Information has been Authorized for Release to .. . Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 1~>11614 -.0 1 29 May 1986 MEMORANDUM FOR THE I 'DUTY DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE SUBJECT: Implications of Chernobyl During my recent trip to Euro e I discovered that they are already working on the implications of the Chernobyl incident for the Soviet economy. Perhaps we are doing the same, but I thought I might raise the issue in the event that we are not yet addressing it. it would be useful to have an idea of methodology for such an analysis. It is a unique analytical task and will require an innovative analytical scheme. The following points strike me as relevant to such a scheme: -- consequences for electrical power output; -- implications for agricultural production; -- implications of labor displacement; -- implications for export of Soviet agri- cultural products; -- Soviet agricultural export reactions; and, -- Soviet requirements for western technology/assistance in repair of other nuclear power plants. Two other related studies may also be appropriate. First, what are the political implications? Both 25X1 25X1 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 elite factional politics and broader party cadre issues are apparently significantly affected. The foreign policy implications are an additional dimen- sion. Second, there may be some military implica- tions. Improvements in civil defense, military district administrative arrangements, and diversion of military manpower come to mind. If you would like, we can discuss in further elaboration. WILLIAM E. ODOM Lieutenant General, USA Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Iq Next 8 Page(s) In Document Denied Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Central Intelligence Agency Washington, D.C. 20505 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 S2- cc-,~~cr Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Iq Next 1 Page(s) In Document Denied Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 NOFORN- Not Releasable to Foreign Nationals NOCONTRACT- Not Releasable to Contractors or Contractor/Consultants PROPIN- Caution- Proprietary Information Involved USIBONLY- USIB Departments Only ORCON- Dissemination and Extraction of Information Controlled by Originator REL ... 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Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Iq Next 3 Page(s) In Document Denied Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 (1. Vil V3 Y,lVl\. i VV WASHINGTON TIMES 1 May 1986 Page 1 of 1 STAT Lllo~ CATASTROPHE AT CHERNOBYLI u.s. Spy sateffites didn't detect Soviet reactor meltdown By Bill Gertz VA SHINOTON TONS Multibillion-dollar technical spy satellite systems of U.S. intelligence agencies failed to detect a Soviet nu- clear reactor meltdown that was only revealed after airborne radio- active particles triggered an alarm in Sweden, U.S. officials and intel- ligence experts said yesterday. . "Our intelligence allows us to look at things we already know are inter- esting;' Stanford University intelli- gence expert Angelo Codevilla said. "But anyone who says we have the world under surveillance is talking through his hat" He added that "we have the cap- ability to focus a camera or an an- tenna on any given spot in the world at least once a day" but U.S. intel- ligence is unable to maintain blanket coverage of the world. Electronic intelligence specialist James Bamford. author of an au- thoritative book on the National Se- curity Agency, said U.S. intelligence could only have been warned that something had happened in the Ukraine by monitoring the level of radio communications in the region following the accident, which began last Friday. Our monitoring and sensing equipment isn't designed to discover accidents in nuclear reactors;' Mr. Bamford said. "Nuclear detection capabilities are primarily designed to determine when and where there is a nuclear explosion." Reconnaissance satellites can de- tect nuclear flashes and seismic monitors can pick up earth vibra- tions from nuclear blasts, he said, but only aircraft sensors targeted on a particular area could have de- tected the radioactive fallout from Chernobyl. "The only way they might have known is that there would have been a huge increase in high-level, and possibly classified, communications going between various points" Mr. Bamford said. "That could have given the intelligence community some early warning." Mr. Bamford said the United States now has only one "Big Bird" close surveillance photosatellite ca- pable of spotting an accident such as the Chernobyl plant, since a second satellite planned for orbit may have blown up with a Titan II rocket in California last week. Senate Intelligence Committee member Chic Hecht, Nevada Re- publican, who was briefed several times yesterday by U.S. officials on the disaster, said the first details of the nuclear fire came from a Swed- ish nuclear engineer. "We did not know about it, and we found out about it from Sweden:' Mr. Hecht said in an interview A nuclear engineer first detected abnormally high levels of radiation at a nuclear facility in Sweden, evac- uated plant employees and then or- dered them back inside the plant when it was discovered the radiation had come from outside the country, he said. "I did see a [intelligence] photo- graph of the site" showing that the roof of the reactor building had been blown off, Mr. Hecht said. He said it was -too early" in the ongoing disas- ter for U.S. officials to determine the long-range environmental effect of the radiation exposure on the region. A State Department Soviet ex- pert, speaking anonymously, said the Swedes provided the first clue to the disaster. This is not a case of a nuclear explosion where you would pick up other kinds of indicators" the offi- cials said. The Soviets maintain doz- ens of nuclear reactors spread out in rural areas, the official said, "but these are not military targets" for intelligence collection. Mr. Codevilla, who served as a professional staff member of the Senate Intelligence Committee for eight years, said "it would have been a startling surprise if we knew about it" shortly after the accident oc- curred because U.S. intelligence agencies do not maintain "broad area surveillance programs.' "In fact, if the wind had been blowing in the direction that it cus- tomarily blows, we wouldn't have know about it" he said. "If the wind had been blowing eastward, we might have picked up two weeks from now a little bit of extra radi- ation in Alaska Only rumors about the disaster would have filtered out of Kiev, the Ukrainian capital, to other parts of the world because of the tight Soviet Controls on information, he said. U .S. photographic satellites, once focused on the disaster site, would be able to provide high-resolution pho- tographs of the area, he said. A commercial photograph taken 'itiesday afternoon by an orbiting satellite owned by the Earth Obser- vation Satellite Company reveals smoke coming from the Chernobyl facility believed to be the result of the ongoing radiation fire. Senate Intelligence Committee spokesman Dave Holliday said yes- terday that the committee has been briefed by U.S. intelligence agencies on Chernobyl but that, "I don't know that we know a lot more than is in the public domain right now." Asked if U.S. intelligence was taken by surprise by the nuclear cri- sis, Mr. Holliday said, "We have not looked into the question of what did we know and when did we know it. We may ask that at some point, but we haven't done it yet;' he said. CIA spokesman Kathy Pherson declined to comment on U.S. collec- tion efforts, saying, "That's some- thing we can't comment about in any way, shape or form" Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 New York Tim Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 2 May 86. AFIRE IN REACTOR MAY BE OUi,,- d_Q s'A NEW U.S. PICTURES INDICATD' SOVIET SAYS FALLOUT /S C(IT NO FIRM ANSWERS By BERNARD GWERTZMAN *KW b me Ni, vat 710a WASHINGTON, May I -The United States said today that the Soviet Union might have smothered the fire that raged for the last five days at a nuclear reactor In the Ukraine. In addition, a French communica- tions satellite. took pictures today that suggested the fire might have been -smothered, a report from Sweden said. The accident at the Chernobyl reac- tor, 70 miles north of Kiev, spewed radioactive material into the atmos- phere that has drifted into many Euro- pean countries. Only a day after it predicted that the severely damaged reactor might con- tinue to burn for weeks, an American interagency panel said this afternoon that the latest Air Force reconnais- sance photos made it "plausible" that the Soviet Union had put out the the, as Moscow contended Wednesday after. :noon that it had done. But the group said it lacked definitive evidence to I make a firm conclusion. HeBosptes shg6ted at Thant American officials said special Soviet civil-defense forces, in helicop- ters. bad been observed dropping ma- terial. believed to be wet sand, over the fire Into the graphite that encased the nuclear feel tads In the reactor. The Usk force members also said they could not confirm speculation that there was damage to a second reactor at the Chernobyl plant. They said a pos- sible "hot spot" close to the burled reactor was not another zeactor but, some other industrial building. There are tear reactors at Chernobyl. The American interagency panel and European nations said the air mast carrying radioactive particles was now widely dispersed throughout northern Europe and Polar region and should begin to move east over the next week. . There were these developments: 411ve Soviet Government said decon- tamination teams were cleaning up the area around Chenrobyl, where It said 2 people were killed and 197 were hospi- talised. of whom 18 were listed today as in serious condition. It said the amount of radiation near the power station had declined. American Officials Think Copters Are Dropping Wet Sand on Plant !Moscow turned down an after by President Reagan to supply assistance. but it invited Dr. Robert Gale, chair- man of the International Bone Marrow Transplant Registry, to fly to the Soviet Union to provide medical assist- ance to the victims of the disaster. Bone-marrow transplant is used to help victims of severe radiation sickness. The Russians have also solicited simi- lar non-governmental assistance In Eu- rope, while declining direct goverb- ment offers. 91n a highly unusual move, a Soviet diplomat appeared before a Home committee looking Into the affair. The diplomat said that the consequences of the accident were not over and that people both inside and outside the Soviet Union still faced danger. The Soviet Government. facing worldwide criticism for the paucity' and delay in the information it has made available, made undertook .a major effort to persuade other govern- Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 New IDrK thee: 2 May 1986 Page o Reactor Fire May Be' Out, J.S. Photos Show meets that the situation was noder coo-% trot and that steps were being taken to clear ap the area near the reactor. A violent explosion apparently occurred at the reactor Iast Saturday, but be. came known to the outside world only last Monday. There continued to be uncertainty about the number of casualties In. valved In the blast and the subsequent fire and radioactive dispersiaL Secre- tary of State George P. tz, without Citing exact figures. Mid in Indonesia that the United States believed the casualty low exceeded the official Soviet --by a good measure." But the American interagency panel maintained that it still had no firm numbers to cite in contradiction to those announced by Moscow. -A Hoge Problem' When asked If the Soviet Union now had the situation under control, a mem- ber of the American interagency panel indicated that the problem was far from over. "Radiation is no doubt deposited on : am have bben ei said. "They have a huge problem iinrere-- gard to cleanup.- Lm M. Thomas, administrator of the Environmental ? Protection Agency, who beads the panel, said, "To us, it is a major accident. probably and togd- bly the most major accident at a nu- clear facility that has occurred-" "It Is a significant cause for can. cerq " be said. Th New Yet Tt ASKED TO HaP. Dr. Robert Gale'of the University of Califor- nia, chairman of the Interna- tional Bone Marrow Transplant Registry, has been invited to the Soviet Union to provide medical assistance to radiation victims. neither could I confirm that it's still If, in fact, it turns out that the fire has been smothnered, It will somewhat enhance Soviet credibility. Daily. brief reports ? from Moscow have been greeted throughout the week with deep skepticism. . ftbnlts Faults Soviet This morning, speaking with report- ers in Indonesia, where he Is accompa- nying President Reagan, Mr. Shultz castigated the Soviet Union for falling to -meet Its obligations by providing .full andpr pt~nformatlon ' to other m nations thatmight be contaminated, from the accident. ?'Lthik by this time we have a much, fuller picture than the Soviets are presenting to us." Mr. Shultz Said, "or, for that matter, to their own people." He declined to estimate the ngrnber Of casualties, ner excee diedto say that the number ceded n the total Iuaraunced by the Russians -'by a good measure " Much of the concern on Wednesday was whether another "hot spot" seen on satellite photos of the Chenrobyl plant it thrwas that of the ee. had ex$od adjacent inna wway~ u slmilarto unit four. it would have led to more radioactive material being spewed into the atmosphere. Mr. Denton said today that'-the data we have today continue to support the view that unit three b not involved In . this event." ' . State Dept. Cautions sat Travel ensued as to whether there still was a fire burning. Photos taken Wednesday, officials said, clearly showed white smoke com- ing from the damaged reactor. The photos taken today lacked such smoke, they said, but instead had a kind of haze over the area, which some ana- lysts believed might be smoke *and others said was not. This new intelligence led to a re- evaluation of what the. United States had been saying, one official said. "It could be that the Soviet Uni 'has- put It out," an official bald. Charles. E. Redman. a State Depart- ment spokesman, said that "concern- ing the fire,'the best we have is that we have seen reports that the fire is out.,, "We, of course, hope that that's. true," he said, "but We can't eon$rm that independently as yet. I can't cop- firm that the fire is. out, so conversely, . On Wednesday. Mr. Denton, director of the office of reactor regulation In the Nuclear Regulatsry Cbmmisslon and a member of the panel, said the fire In . the sctor, known as unit four. was r+eto bum for weeks' un- less It wasppqqtt am He said then that it would be difficult to extinguish. ? This morning. Mt Thomas said on television that the fire was continuing to burn. although the amount of radio- active material emitted would grow progressively smaller as the fire con- tinaed.' But according to several Administra- tion officials, wfien the cy panel met with intelligence cials later this marni g to wamine the lat- est rec w ianoe photos,. a debate The interagency panel noted that the State Department had recomnlendbd against traveling to the Kiev area, but had decided not to advise against travel to-the Soviet Unioq, Scandinavia and Eastern Europe, the areas hit hardest by the release of radiation ma- te rials. ? But the .department urged caution. ..Americans planning travel to the Soviet Union and adjacent countries," ' the department said, "sbould?earefully monitor press reports on this rapidly changing situation to make as fully fn. formed a decision as possible with rb- spect to their travel plans. They should bear in mind that many of these coun- tries have reported I>lccreased levels of . radiation In the environment." STAT Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 of 11 RADIO TV REPORTS, INC. 4701 WILLARD AVENUE, CHEVY CHASE, MARYLAND 20815 (301) 656-4068 This Week with David Brinkley May 4, 1986 11:30 AM STATION W J L A T V ABC Network Washington, DC Secretary of State Shultz/Reps. Markey and Young DAVID BRINKLEY: Coming next, the Secretary of State, George Shultz, from Tokyo in an interview done last night. And shortly, two Members of Congress, holding differing views on the virtues and dangers of nuclear power plants. In a moment. BRINKLEY: Mr.Secretary, in Tokyo, thank you very much for coming in today, pleased to have you with us. SECRETARY OF STATE GEORGE SHULTZ: Thank you. BRINKLEY: Here with us in Washington is George Will, of ABC News, and there in Tokyo, as you see, Sam Donaldson, ABC News White House correspondent. Mr. Secretary, the President is saying that the explosion in the Soviet Union was hardly an internal matter, since the fallout has floated over several countries -- has demanded more information about it. Has there been any response? SECRETARY SHULTZ: No. BRINKLEY: Do you expect any? SECRETARY SHULTZ: Of course. BRINKLEY: All right. George. OFFICES IN: WASHINGTON D.C. ? NEW YORK ? LOS ANGELES ? CHICAGO ? DETROIT ? AND OTHER PRINCIPAL CITIES STAT Motenal supplied by Radio N Reports. Inc. may be used for file and reference ournases oruv It may not t a nw,rn,i,., -M .Mn rr .,,,hl -k, .in....,...w,.m.. ,,, e.n.:`...ld Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 GEORGE WILL: Mr. Secretary, you said you would bet the press corps $10 that there were more than two people killed by that. Brinkley and I have authorized Sam Donaldson to give you all the money in his wallet if you can tell us more, and tell us how you know more about this. SECRETARY SHULTZ: It may be that at some point in time there were only two people killed. But we have photographs, we have other kinds of information coming in from the area. And we know that the radiation levels and the heat in the vicinity of the plant, and still are, for that matter, intense. From the pictures you can see that as they realized what was happening they must have had on the one hand evacuation of people, and on the other hand, people who stayed and tried to cope with what was going on and get control of it. SECRETARY SHULTZ: And among the reasons why you can see emergency equipment, like fire engines, and so forth and you can see that they're still where they were parked. Now, if you went some place to do an emergency operation and you decided you had to get away in a hurry, I suppose you would grab the truck you came in and drive it as fast as you could go -- but it's still there. So I think there's a certain amount of inference that comes from that. WILL: Mr. Secretary, after the Korean airliner was shot down, the Soviet Union spent five days denying that it happened and then started lying about it. They seem to have gone into that same pattern here. What conclusions should the American people draw, specifically with regard to arms control negotiations, about dealing with a regime that has this character as it's shown again this week? SECRETARY SHULTZ: Well, first they haven't denied that it took place; they could hardly do so because the pictures are there and the radioactive substance is being measured elsewhere. They haven't been forthcoming with information. I think the imnplications are no different than what we have known all along. We know they're a closed society, and we know that it's important in any arms control agreement, for example, to have as good a means of verification as you can get, and try to build in the consideration of compliance as distinct from verification. SAM DONALDSON: Mr. Secretary, aside from the casualty figure and whether or not it was two or 20, or what numnber, have we not tried to hype the situation from the standpoint of beating Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 the Soviets over the head? And you've even suggested just now, once again, that while they may not have lied about it, it was simply because they had no choice. SECRETARY SHULTZ: We haven't been trying to beat them over the head. We have, first of all, expressed sympathy, and continue to. Second of all, offered to be helful if we could. And third, said that since the citizens of other countries, including our own people, who are in the vicinity or in neighboring countries, have their health endangered, we want to know what's going on, so that we can take steps to protect our people. And I don't see that that's -- I think that's what we should be doing. DONALDSON: Well, now, the radiation levels reported from western Europe and from Poland just a few hours ago suggest that there has really been no threat to humanity, no threat to health, at least so far. Do you have any information that contradicts that? SECRETARY SHULTZ: The radiation levels measured have been announced, and all sorts of precautions are being taken. I think when sometehing like this happens, you should observe and then you should err on the side of safety; and that's what is being done, and I think it's proper to do. DONALDSON: You're suggesting that here in Tokyo the summit leaders may agree on some way to strengthen the reporting of cross-boundary incidents. What do you have in mind? SECRETARY SHULTZ: Well, the International Atomic Energy Agency has considered the question of cross-border flows of radioactive material. And I think that -- and theirs are just voluntary and there's a loose procedure surrounding it; and perhaps it would be well to tighten that up and to do more. DONALDSON: Are you suggesting through that agency, or international treaties among governments? SECRETARY SHULTZ: Well, that agency is an international treaty among governments, and it's one of the most extensive in existence. And I might say it's been broadly very successful. DONALDSON: Yes, but how do you want it strengthened, though? I'm not quite clear. SECRETARY SHULTZ: You might write in and have everyone agree to certain standards and procedures in the event that there is an accident. Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 4 DONALDSON: What are the chances the Soviets would agree? SECRETARY SHULTZ: I don't know exactly what, but that's the general idea. agree? DONALDSON: What are the chances the Soviets would SECRETARY SHULTZ: We shouldn't always judge whether we should do something by whether or not they'll agree. Maybe they will agree. They agreed to inspection of power plants. WILL: Mr. Secretary, you said a moment ago that this again dramatizes the closed nature of the Soviet society, and hence, the importanbce of having verifiable agreements with them, and national technical means of verification of arms control agreements with them. Given the fact that NASA has now suffered yet another setback in its attempt to launch a space vehicle, are we reaching a point where the decline in the execution of its mission by NASA is jeopardizing our national security, specifically with regard to the verificatgion of arms control compliance? SECRETARY SHULTZ: It's a problem, but it hasn't reached that point. And I think that the -- it emphasizes on the one hand the importance of the space program, and the need to build redundency into the system. BRINKLEY: If I may interrupt here briefly. We'll be back with more questions for Secretary Shultz in a moment. BRINKLEY: Mr.Secretary, we're back. We got a report here in our newsroom a short time ago from Poland, some official, whose name I do not know, saying that their views was that children and women of childbearing age should not come to Poland because of the danger from radioactive fallout. Now, my question is, do you foresee this will cause problems for the Soviet Union with its client states -- satellite states? SECRETARY SHULTZ: It's interesting that Poland has treated this in a sharply different way than the Soviet Union has. Poland has kept people informed of all the information they've had, they have issued warnings about drinking milk; they've issued the kind of statement or caution that you just referred to. So I think it's an interesting fact that they've reacted in a different way. Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 DONALDSON: Here at the summit, terrorism, I guess is supposed to be the big issue. Will it still be, or will this nuclear accident overshadow it? SECRETARY SHULTZ: Oh, of course, this is an economic summit, and there are very important eonomic matters to be discussed, some great opportunities around the world, and a generally good economic environment, so that's going to be the centerpiece in this summit. Terrorism, however, is a very important topic. And we and others certainly intend to talk about it thoroughly, and I expect that out of it will come some positive results. DONALDSON: All right. Do you expect that there will be a statement, a political statement, in which terrorism is not only mentioned, but I assume condemned, and do you expect Libya to be condemned by name? SECRETARY SHULTZ: I feel confident there will be a statement of some kind about terrorism. And at the same time, my own view --I know the President's view is that it's important to say these things. But more important is what we do, what do countries do when they go home and confront possible actions that can be taken. DONALDSON: What about Libya and others? Do you expect Libya to be specifically named in the statement? Do you want it to be named? SECRETARY SHULTZ: I don't know whether it will be named in the statement or not. But I think by this time, whether it's named or not, there's no argument anywhere about Libyan culpability and terrorism. WILL: Mr. Secretary, the Italians, who have a large economic stake in Libya, have now indicated a willingness to go along with very substantial economic sanctions again Libya. A/ is that enough and B/ are they doing that in an attempt to head off the Americans from doing something that they disagree with, that is the use of force again? SECRETARY SHULTZ: The Italians have a good record of fighting terrorism. They've done a good job of it. And in so far as their relations with Libya are concerned, of course,it's been very extensive. But I gather that whereas, let's say a little over a year ago there were some 18,000 Italians in Libya, now there are only about 3,000, so they have been decreasing. Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 I think steps of this kind that Italy and other governments are in the process of taking, isolate Libya diplomatically and economically, and that's good. And it's going to cause concerns inside Libya, and we have indications that is continuing to be the case. WILL: Mr. Secretary, when some people in the American government began to leak to the press shortly after the raids that we had hoped to kill Qadaffi in those raids, you said that was not our aim, but if he had been killed it would have been -- I believe I've got your words right -- all to the good. SECRETARY SHULTZ: I didn't say that. You've got my words wrong. WILL: Okay, well, I'd like to clarify. Go ahead. SECRETARY SHULTZ: First of all, there was no plan or effort to go after Qaddafi personally, and at least one potential target, namely, his tent, was explicitly not targeted. That statement that you quoted was wrong. As far as I'm concerned, what I said was that if we had a change of government, a coup of some kind, so that we could expect that Libyan behavior would be different, I'd be all for that. And I repeat that right now. WILL: Well, that's really what I want to clarify, and I guess you've answered it, and it is this: the United States not only was out to get him, but took pains not to -- took some care not to, to minimize the chance that he himself would be killed. DONALDSON: But if Qadaffi's government fails, in the sense that he no longer has the power, is that necessarily a terrrific thing for us, particularly if those who succeed him go closer to the Soviet Union? SECRETARY SHULTZ: Of course it makes a difference what follows on, and you never know for sure. On the other hand, I think we have some indications that a successor government,if one emerges, would be different. For one thing, a successful government has to face the fact that Qadaffi now has the Libyan economy and society in a shambles, and they're going to have to do something about that. DONALDSON: Mr.Secretary, the other day when the President suggested that he might order a strike against Syria or Iran, or any other state that can be shown to have sponsored a direct terrorist attack, you tried to soften those remarks. At least that's the interpretation. Are we in fact pulling back from the idea that we would strike Damascus? Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 SECRETARY SHULTZ: The President had some words put in his mouth by a question, and did not mean to say that we had a plan for attacking Syria or Iran. And I pointed that out. However, insofar as the fight against terrorism is concerned, we have to be ready to use all the available means we have to fight it. And we have to have present in our toolbag the possibility of military action. And the fact that we did take action againsts Libya shows that the tool is in the bag, and it's important that everybody know it. DONALDSON: Yes, but you were asked repeatedly why, if we do this against Libya why we don't do it against Syria. SECRETARY SHULTZ: When we get ready to do something we'll do it. WILL: Mr.Secretary... DONALDSON: In other words, we might do it against Syria, against Damascus? SECRETARY SHULTZ: I'm not going to get involved in speculation about the use of military force, except to say that it's a good thing that everybody now sees that there are some circumstances when the U.S. will act. I think this fight against terrorism is very important, and we do have to focus on what it takes to win, and we have to recognize we can win. And the main things it takes is unity and purposefulness and a recognition that the answer to the fear that terrorists try to spread is courage to confront that and take the actions necessary to stamp it out. WILL: Mr.Secretary, you've pleased the allies with whom you're meeting by saying that although we think the SALT II treaty is fatally flawed, and is being comprehensively violated by the Soviet Union we will continue to agree to comply with it almost unilaterally. Why is it not fair for the Soviet government to conclude that we are so in the thrall of our allies on arms control that we simply cannot get out of a treaty, even though they are violating it? SECRETARY SHULTZ: Well, first of all, the President hasn't made any decision that I know of, and what he has done is put forward some ideas that our allies have heard and have reflected on, and we've also had some discussion with Members of Congress and the President is now considering what position he should take. BRINKLEY: Mr. Secretary, thank you. Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Thanks very much for being with us today. It's been a pleasure to have you with us and hear your views. SECRETARY SHULTZ: Thank you. BRINKLEY: Coming next, Representative Edward J. Markey, Democrat Massachusetts, Chairman of the House Energy Subcommittee, and Representative Don Young, Republican, Alaska,. of the House Interior Committee, in a moment. BRINKLEY: Mr.Markey, Mr.Young, thanks for coming in today. A pleasure to have you here with us. Now, after the explosion in the Soviet Union, a number of environmental and anti-nuclear groups, the Audobon Society, the Sierra Club, the Concerned Scientists, and so on, said that we in this country are exposed to the same possibility of the same danger, and they recommended that our nuclear program be tapered off and ultimately to disappear. What are your thoughts on that? Mr. Markey? REPRESENTATIVE MARKEY: Well, there hasn't been a new nuclear power plant oredered in the United States since 1978. That's before Three Mile Island. So to a large extent Wall Street and Main Street has already rendered its verdict on economic and safety grounds on this technology. I think that it the light of Chernobyl those concerns have been reinforced and I think now there is a tremendously high burden on the nuclear industry that they're going to have to overcome in guaranteeing to the public that they can make these plants safe and economical. And I think in the present climate that's going to be a very high burden, in fact, for them to meet. BRINKLEY: Mr. Young? The need for nbuclear power is still here as it was in the past, more so in the future. And it's a funny thing when you mention those that call for the demise of nuclear power are the same ones that are against gas and oil development, hydropower, all other sources of energy, and energy is the secret to America's prosperity and its future growth. WILL: Mr., Markey, policy has to deal with not just possibilities but probabilities. Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Now, when we were developing new technologies for bridges, dams, airplanes, cars, trains -- lots and lots of casualties. Yet in the United States I can't think of any new technoliogy with a safety record as remarkably good as that of the domestic nuclear power industry. Wouldn't you admit that? REP. MARKEY: Well, the problem is that in the minds of the public it's an inherently dangerous technology. They look at Three Mile Island and at Chernobyl and they get concerned, because this is an accident that will be ongoing for 30 years. There will be thyroid cancers, leukemias, bone marrow cancers, and so the public is afraid. They're fearful of nuclear power and nuclear weapons. And the only way in which you can make them in fact believe that this technology is safe is if you, rather than undermining the public participation in safety devices, which is what this Administration has been advancing, is to, in fact, reverse that and to strengthen public participation and the concern for safety in these plants. REP. YOUNG: I can suggest one thing, George, your comment [?] is the safest energy we have. There's been more people hurt by dams, more people hurt by mines, every other source of power that we have, people have been in the long run hurt over a period of time. But there has been no one, to my knowledge has died from nuclear power. We have 115 plants in the United States; they have a tremendous safety record, they provide us with 15 percent of our power need today. And we are continuing each time to improve the plants that we have in place. And as the gentleman from Massachusetts said, we haven't ordered any plants in ten years, primarily because of Congressional action, and primarily because of people like Mr. Markey that do not want an energy source available to the general public. Now, I cannot understand, Ed, when you sit in that committee with me and talk about no more drilling off shore, you have never supported any other alternate sources of energy, and yet you stand there and sit here and say we have to eliminate nuclear power. Where are we going to get our power? Russia has the most advanced nuclear program today as far as acquiring the necessary megawatts that are necessary. We have 170 billion -- or they have 170 billion megawatts produced today through nuclear power. REP. MARKEY: This issue is a straw man issue,the pro-nuclear/anti-nuclear issue. Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 REP.MARKEY: Well, the issue really is whether or not this industry is willing to restore public confidence to the extent that they're willing to invest in the technology. That's all it is. And right now... REP. YOUNG: How can -- excuse me... REP. MARKEY: Just let me make my point and then I'll be more than willing to listen to you. The point is this... REP. YOUNG: It would be the first time. REP. MARKEY: ...is that the issue comes down to an industry which has a mindset that accidents can't happen. Boiling water, which is potentially so dangerous that the public wants extra security built into it -- and so here's the point: the nuclear industry right now is pressing for legislation which reduces public participation, which puts caps on the amount of liability of the industry in the event of an accident, which restricts in the Sunshine Act the right of the public... REP. YOUNG: That's not true. That's not true... REP. MARKEY: Excuse me, let me finish. REP. YOUNG: That's the straw dog right there. That's not true. You know that Price/Anderson does not do that. REP. MARKEY: I have a right to finish, please... REP. YOUNG: Well, finish. REP. MARKEY: ...to restrict the right of the public and the press into the secret gatherings of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. And I can guarantee you that that is going to, in fact, result in just the opposite result of what the nuclear industry is seeking to achieve. REP. YOUNG: The fact of the matter, the Price/Andersopn renewal, which we're working on right now, increases the liability of the industry. And again, they have never had the opportunity to have it kicked in as far as the liability to the general public, and we have lost, we have no harm and in fact, Three Mile Island has not done what you said it did. BRINKLEY: Let me ask a question that is of somewhat long range, but it's curious. Some of us around in the Eisenhower years when Secretary of Commerce Louis Strauss was discussing the possibility of nuclear power, saying that it was going to be so cheap we would not even need meters. What happened? Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 REP. MARKEY: Well, what happened was that... REP. YOUNG: My turn Ed. My turn, Ed. You had your time. Let me -- this is a fair -- equal... BRINKLEY: Well, I want an answer from both of you. Let Mr. Young go first. REP. YOUNG: Two things happened. Number one, we had cheaper sources of power. We had the Mideast oil, we had a lot of power developed within our own United States. We have not done that. We have come to a power standstill. We're not producing the necessary mewgawatts we must have. And along the road the nuclear program -- as I mentioned, we had 15 plants -- 15 percent of our power today comes from nuclear plants. We have come to the point where the public has been misled, and I believe actually through hysteria, that this is the most dangerous of all power sources. It's very difficult to get the permits necessary now to build a nuclear plant. We're trying to unify we're trying to unify the system today, which was opposed by the gentleman on my right. And I would suggest, respectfully, that is where the problem lies. It is a very expensive proposition now to produce the power. BRINKLEY: Mr.Markey, I'll give you the last word before the time runs out. REP MARKEY: The public was told in the 1950s that it would be too cheap to meter, that it would be safe and that it would be economical. What we've learned over the course of the last 25 years, from Three Mile Island to Chernobyul, is that accidents can happen and do happen. The point is that the public doesn't trust the experts anymore. And as a result they want more and more guarantees of public safety devices built into these plants. And with it we've seen a corresponding rise in price. And nuclear power has, as a result, become much more competitive with alternative energy sources which Wall Street decided to invest in. BRINKLEY: Mr.Markey and Mr.Young, thanks very much. Glad you came in today. Enjoyed hearing your thoughts. Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 SECRET The Director of Central Intelligence Washington, D.C. 20505 National Intelligence Council NIC #02386-86 14 May 1986 MEMORANDUM FOR: Director of Central Intelligence Deputy Director of Central Intelligence FROM: Acting NIO for Economics Economic Costs of the Chernobyl Incident 1. I believe many analysts are overestimating the economic costs of the Chernobyl accident to the USSR. Attachments A imply the costs will be high indeed. think Moscow can contain the economic costs to well under $10 billion, keeping them within the limits of a very significant, but hardly catastrophic, natural disaster. 2. According to the analysts in SOYA, loss of grain, livestock, and farmland will be minimal. As for other costs, it is only possible, of course, to make order of magnitude estimates at this point. -- Assuming the permanent relocation of 10,000 families in the area at $20,000 each, the cost would be $2 billion plus, say, $500 million for temporary relocation of others in a wider, 30 kilometer, area. (We have reports that those relocated are already being put to work.) -- The loss of the four reactors amounts to perhaps $4 billion in capital costs. It is possible, however, that in time reactors 1 and 2 could be returned to service, depending on the levels of radiation in the immediate area and estimates of cleanup costs relative to new construction. -- Cleanup costs, including covering radioactive earth, plus loss of farmland, livestock, etc., could total another $1 billion or so assuming the Soviets do not apply strict Western standards to contamination of meat and dairy products. 25X1 25X1 DECr OADRER / ~_ . Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 SECRET In addition to these capital costs, loss of the four reactors represents an annual loss of power equal to 100,000 b/d oil worth about $550 million per year. It is impossible at this point to gauge longer term costs such as delays in the power program, increased costs to improve reactor design., etc. 3. In the attached article (Attachment C) Goldman argues that the accident is a major blow to Gorbachev's effort at economic reform. I think it is more appropriately viewed as an indication of the lack of maneuvering room Gorbachev has to meet any single major economic emergency including major crop failures--let alone back-to-back problems such as the Chernobyl accident followed by a crop failure. He cannot, I believe, afford to shut down all reactors of similar design for an extended period owing to the cost of fossil fueled replacement power. Similarly, the grid cannot accommodate such losses; the system experienced periodic brownouts even before the accident. 4. As an aside, I would like to know what the power production targets were for these four reactors, whether these targets were raised under Gorbachev, and whether our people think the rate of capacity utilization allowed time for proper maintenance. 5. SOVA has drafted an article on the economic impact of Chernobyl on the USSR; EURA is doing an article on the costs to Eastern Europe. This memorandum was reviewed by SOVA. A. Chernobyl's Impact on Foreign Trade C. "A Threat to Soviet Economic Reform," The New York imes 4 May 86 D. "The Worst Effects Will Emerge Slowly," The New York Times, 4 May 86 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Confidential Attachment A Chernobyl's Impact on Foreign Trade There have been a lot of rumors but few hard facts of any direct impact on foreign trade: --Should oil be needed as feedstock for power plants to replace the power lost from Chernobyl then foregone oil earnings are approximately $550 million for every 100,000 b/d at $15 per barrel. --There have been many rumors of increased grain purchases but, again, few hard facts. Indeed, given current he constraints and some statements about cutting back imports sharply, especially for consumer goods, the Soviets may forgo any food imports to to replace losses, particularly if there not significant. --There may some minor he outlays to fight the disaster such as the purchase of West German robots, or the payment to medical specialists. --There has been some speculation in the West German press about farmers bringing a suit against the Soviet Union to recoever damages--the amount mentioned was $500 million. This may lead nowhere. --Western bankers may use this accident as one more reason to up the price of borrowing by the Soviets. So far they had kept rates low despite the poor oil market, but this may change their minds. Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Iq Next 12 Page(s) In Document Denied Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 THE NEW YORK TIMES, SUNDAY, MAY 4, 1986 THE GRIM TOLL OF CHERNOBYL Attachment C A Thread to Soviet Economic Reform By MARSHALL I. GOLDMAN WHILE there obviously is never a good time for a nu- clear meltdown, the Cherno- byl disaster comes at a particularly awkward moment for the Soviet econ- omy. it may well abort Mikhail S. Gorbachev's ambitious effort to turn the Soviet economy around. Before Chernobyl, Mr. Gorba- chev's efforts to discipline and moti- vate the Soviet work force were beginning to bear fruit. According to official Soviet data, in the first three months of 1966, industrial production rose 6.7 percent and labor produc- tivity 6.3 percent over the compara- ble period in 1965. Even oil production was increasing again. Since Mr. Gorbachev made a personal tour of the west Siberian oil- fields last year, fired several officials and criticized many more, production - which at one point was down by 4 percent on a monthly basis - has re- . , l bounded to a 2 percent growth rate, long accustomed to brownouts, an) compared with the same month a loss of capacity hurts. .year before. Equally impressive, Moreover, the accident will slog steel production increased by 10 per- the Soviet's nuclear drive, requirini cent in the first.quarter of 1966, corn- the diversion for electricity genera. pared with a year earlier, something tion of more natural gas, coal and not seen for a decade or more. possibly some petroleum that other- Building on this momentum, Mr. wise could be set aside for hard-cur. Gorbachev seemed to be preparing to rency exports. Fortunately for Mr. bring high technology and better Gorbachev, oil production is increas- services to the Soviet Union so that it ing again, but that increase will not would be competitive with the United compensate for the fall in world oil States not only in military strength . prices, all the more so if more energy but in economic sophistication. Given must be kept for home consumption. the resistance to previous attempts at The last thing the Soviets need is a reform, this may have been an un- further crimp in their hard-currency attainable dream: But to make any earning abilities - Soviet foreign inroads, Mr. Gorbachev realized be debt will increase by over fib billion would have to establish his credibility 'this year because of falling oil prices. as a manager and leader, and he The recent shift in the winds to the seemed to be doing just that - until south and the east from Chernobyl is Chernobyl. putting many important Soviet crops The accident jeopardizes not only in the country's rich black-soil zone at his credibility, but also the economic risk. Assuming Soviet leaders do the momentum be has generated. There right thing (which at this point is not is no way that Mr. Gorbachev could , all that certain), they will destroy have escaped at least some criticism. some of these crops, which will neces. for Chernobyl, but the inept, if not un- sitate increased imports. For a nation conscionable, way the Soviet people that imported $7 billion of grain in have been kept in the dark about the 1964, any further loss is unwelcome, potential dangers has turned a bad though by no means devastating. situation into one with unusually seri- None of these setbacks is insur- ous and enduring consequences. mountable. The mort important con- sequence of Chernobyl may be the dashing of Mr. Gorbachev's hopes for reforms, innovation and inspired leadership. ^ Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 The first economic casualty, then, is the sense that the Soviet Union had finally found itself a leader who would provide his people utth the openness and respect they have so long been denied. As the editors of Sovietskaya Rossiya, a Moscow newspaper, said in January, "In the interests of truth and of speaking openly with people on all vital questions, our information must be up-to-date, accurate and complete." For Mr. Gorbachev, Chernobyl fails on all three accounts. The second casualty is the Soviet energy industry. At a minimum, Chernobyl's four generating units, with a total capacity of 4,000 mega- watts, will be out of commission for the foreseeable future. Even though the units account for almost one-half of the Ukraine's electrical capacity, nuclear-ge oration provides only 11 percent of the Soviet Union's total electric energy. So the loss of Cherno byl is not irreplaceable, particular]) 'Dow that the weather is warmer and the days sunnier Yet In a count r Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 THE NEW YORK TIMES SUNDAY, MAY 4, 1986 Attachment D The Worst Effects Will Emerge Slowly T HE history of the 20th century is a confirmation of the wisdom that the impossible is always possible. Whether in the destruction of Challenger or in the meltdown at Chernobyl, the seeds of disaster were planted long before the event, and the repercussions will be felt long after. What are the likely environmental and health effects of Chernobyl? For a few in the immediate vicinity who were heavily exposed to radiation, it could mean death within days, weeks or months, depending on the extent of exposure. For many others, who were Herbert L. Abrarns is professor of radiology and a member-in-residence ,f the Center for International Se- auity and Arms Control, at Stanford University. exposed to leas severe - but still critical - amounts of radiation, it could mean a bone-marrow death that could occur in weeks to months. Fluid replacement, antibiotics and stringent sterile precautions may save many in this group. At least 14 different isotopes drifted into Scandinavia, including the ha:- ardou s radioactive iodine and cesi- um. As the wind's direction changed, countries adjacent to the Ukraine - Poland, Rumania, Bulgaria, Yugo- slavia and Austria - experienced in- creased levels of radioactivity. Radioactive iodine is deposited on the soil and in plants, ingested by cows and it appears quickly in milk. Once ingested, it accumulates in the thyroid gland and may destroy thy- roid tissue and ultimately produce thyroid nodules and even cancer. Cesium is threatening because it con. tines to produce radiation for dec- ades after it has been taken up by human tissues. What of the area around Cherno- byl? Land within 5 to 15 miles of the reactor may be contaminated for many years and could be uninhabita- ble. Over days, weeks and months, as fallout settles to the ground, water, lakes, rivers and crops may be con- taminated at distances beyond the immediate area. A major concern of the Chernobyl accident is not only the reservoir that supplies Kiev - which must have in. Creased radioactivity - but' the Dnieper River that flows out of the reservoir and south to the Black Sea. Both immediately, and for weeks and months thereafter, the use of impure water must be sharply restricted, and contaminated agricultural products impounded. The expense of Three Mile Island - huge though it was - may pale beside the Chernobyl disaster. Any estimate true include the cost of evacuating and relocating thousands of people; of medical care for hundreds with radiation sickness and . possibly burns; of workdays lost; of a sus- tained interruption of one-seventh of all Soviet nuclear power for the Ukraine and Eastern Europe; the decontamination of a large area that may remain "hot" - excessively radioactive - for months or years; agricultural products that must be junked, and property that cannot be 'used. The pressure will be great to close or redesign those reactors with- out appropriate containment, and the cost attached to all new Soviet reac- tors will rise sharply. ' The human tragedy of the dead, in- jured and evacuated is clearly the central concern of the world com- munity. But the secondary effects of Chernobyl are inestimable, and none are more aware of this than those in the nuclear power industry in this country and in other lands. ^ Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 SUBJECT: Economic Costs of the Chernobyl Incident ANIO/Econ DISTRIBUTION: Orig - DCI 1 - DDCI 1 - D/Exec Staff 1 - ER 1 - A/C/NIC 1 - VC/NIC 1 - D/SOVA 1 - NIO/USSR 1 - NIO/AL (Einsel) 1 - NIO/Econ Subj file 1 - NIO/Econ Chrono Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88G01116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Iq Next 5 Page(s) In Document Denied Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 DATE: 12 May 36 INDEX: OCA86-1491 & ER 36-1816X TO: HAMILTON, HPSCI FROM: CRIES, D/OCA SUMt1ARV: RESPONSE TO LETTER OF 1 May 86 re the chernobyl NUCLEAR ACCIDENT IN THE SOVIET UNION FILED: OIRG FILED IN B-406-IR C-113-IR Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Iq Next 9 Page(s) In Document Denied Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 TRANSMITTAL SLIP DATE TO: 10 ROOM NO. BUILDING REMARKS: FROM: d /Y/ to ROOM NO. BUILDING EXTENSION FORM NO. REPLACES FORM 36-8 7A 1 w- RAAV PF I I(ZFf) Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 The Director of Central Intelligence Washington, D.C. 20505 National Intelligence Council NIC #02194-86 1 May 1986 MEMORANDUM FOR: Director of Central Intelligence Deputy Director of Central Intelligence FROM: Acting NIO for Economics Hard Currency Limitations on the Response to the Chernobyl Disaster 1. We can expect Gorbachev soon to come under pressure by neighboring countries to shut down all nuclear reactors similar in design to the units at Chernobyl. While Gorbachev may have been able to consider such an option only two years ago when foreign exchange earnings were much higher, the squeeze of lower oil and gas prices effectively precludes this option. Each 1,000 MW reactor replaces the equivalent of 25,000 b/d of fuel oil worth about $130 million per year at current market prices. The loss of the four units at Chernobyl, hence, already costs the USSR $500 million per year. (Even if power is rationed rather than replaced by oil-fired capacity, indirect economic losses would presumably be equally high.) It would cost the USSR nearly 500 thousand b/d in fuel oil at a cost of $2.5 billion annually to shut down all reactors of similar design, causing a drop in oil exports of roughly 40 percent. 2. Looking further ahead, hard currency considerations will also play a role in decisions relating to food. Should the damage to farmland prove widespread, the decision on determining levels of contamination acceptable for distributing food absent an ability to pay for substantial imports will be a difficult one. EC countries may well offer substantial "emergency" credits for such supplies given their surpluses in production. The Soviet bureaucracy, however, might opt to distributing CL BY SIGNER DECL OADR Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 SUBJECT: Hard Currency Limitations on the Response to the Chernobyl Disaster A/NIO/Econ DISTRIBUTION: Orig - DCI 1 - DOCI 1 - D/Exec Staff -1 - ER 1 - A/C/NIC 1 - VC/NIC 1 - NIO/AL/Einsel 1 - NIO/USSR 1 - NIO/Econ Sub File 1 - NIO/Econ Chrono Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3 Iq Next 12 Page(s) In Document Denied Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2010/11/16: CIA-RDP88GO1116R000700830001-3