MAJORITY LEADER BYRD'S REMARKS ON POSSIBLE IRAN/CONTRA LEGISLATION

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Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/12/09: CIA-RDP90M00004ROO1000060006-5 STAT Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/12/09: CIA-RDP90M00004ROO1000060006-5 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/12/09: CIA-RDP90M00004ROO1000060006-5 United States of America Vol. 133 ~on,~re,~sional Record PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE 100 CONGRESS, FIRST SESSION WASHINGTON, WEDNESDAY, JULY 22, 1987 Senate The Senate met at 9:30 a.m., on the expiration of the recess, and was called to order by the Acting President pro tempore [Mr. SAXTQRD). PRAYER The Chaplain, the Reverend Rich- ard C. Halverson, D.D., offered the fol- lowing prayer: Let us pray. ? ? ? for the Lord seeth not as man seeth, for man kook eth on the outward appearance but the Lord tooketh on th.e heart--I Samuel 16: 7. God of Abraham. Isaac and Israel, this morning the life and memory of a great American, Arthur Burns. will be celebrated at a memorial service. With boundless praise to You, we express our gratitude for the life and service of this uncommon mar.: scholar, teach- er, economist, servant of Presidents, ambassador, citizen of the world, statesman, friend. We thank You for his incalculable sen-ice to our Nation- his integrity, his courage, his fierce honesty, his profound understanding of human nature and its foibles, his humility, his deep love for God, the Bible, and people. May Your gracious blessing and peace attend his lovely lady. his partner for more than, half a century, his family, and his multitude of friends. For this '-man after God's own heart" we praise You. Lord, to Whom belongs the kingdom and the glory and the honor forever. Amen. RECOGNITION OF THE MAJORITY LEADER The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tem- porc The majority leader is recog- nizen. THE Rt"..E OF LAW Mr. BYRD. Mr. President. the Iran- Cor.t-s join; investigz:ting committee t: wort:ing very hard to unravel the ful truth about the secret provision of 11 ;.iuii weapons to Iran in an attempt to win the release of American hos- tages, and the provision of proceeds from that enterprise to fund military assistance to the Contras at a time when such assistance was prohibited by the Congress. It is a difficult task to sort out the real truth when there has apparently been an epidemic of amnesia in the executive branch over crucial events, when testimony L con- tradictory on many of these events, and when the witnesses seem intent on attacking the committee for pursuing what they did and why they did it. Nevertheless, the continuous stream of revelations about these question- able, and ill-considered activities, shrouded in secrecy so as to keep Con- gress in the dark, is focusing more and more on the central question-the rule of law as the critical principle govern- ing the day-to-day operation of the American form of government. Indeed, the statements of the es- teemed cochairmen of the Investigat- ing committee, Mr. Ittot;Ys and Mr. HAMILTON, as well as the statement by Mr. MITCHELL, who was the assigned questioner of Lieutenant Colonel North, are eloquent reassertion of this fundamental. cardinal tenet which distinguishes our system from those of totalitarian adversaries and from sheer chaos. Those statements are a rich primer or, the absolutely es- sential nature of the operation of the rule of law and its corollaries-the need for openness, for informed debate. for the development of consen- sus. and for a dynamic partner with the oversight committees of the Con- gress. I emphasize that, even in those exceptional circumstances where the national interest requires a restricted debate. and restrictions on openness there is all the more reason to con- form closely to the legal requirer_:enus governing covert actions. Those are precisely the circumstances in which the checks and balances of the Ameri- can system are most vulnerable and in need of the most protection, the system that we only last week met in Philadelphia to commemorate, the system in which we all rejoice. I recommend a close reading of those statements, as well as others made by both Republican and Demo- cratic Members of the panel. since we must constantly refresh our under- standing of the tenets of our system. principles which can only be made to live by the concerted attention and ac- tions of the elected officials of this Government, and those subordinates: over whom those elected officials have responsibility. and the American people at large. Lipservice to those principles will not suffice. Good inten- tions in fighting communism, in seek- Ing democracy in Nicaragua, goals which are shared by all of us, will no,. excuse circumvention of the law. will not explain the subversion of the methods by which OL- democracy ar- rives at decisions and by which it im- plements decisions. I congratulate the chairmen and members of the committee for their tremendous efforts in this investiga- tion. It is clear the American people are watching, that they are intensely interested, and that the proceedings are addressing the issues in a work- manlike, and comprehe-isive- thorough fashion. It has been and is an arduous. grueling task. The Senate and the Nation are indebted to members and staff of the committee for their ef- forts The committee has bent over backyard to be fair, realizing that it could be charged with unfairness at: too easily. I believe it has beer. fair. It has been sober and mature and deliberate, and has resisted the pressures for cutting corners. Doing the right thing is not the same thing as exhibiting for a beauty contest. Doing the right thing is not the same thing as acting with the applause meter in mind. The statements by the members of the panel reaffirm the basic need for t This "bullet" symbol idrntifes statemerts or insertions which. are cot spoken b) a Member of the Senate on tht floor. Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/12/09: CIA-RDP90M00004ROO1000060006-5 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/12/09: CIA-RDP90M00004ROO1000060006-5 S10476 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -- SENATE July 82, 1987 these open hearings for the full i i r s Of the facts, for a sober cleansing The =' MF body i~ mandated b,, ` 2 3 . : . ? make eec- Or - f:.- new legislation and am, :?? r ii to exis:ing laws, as well ai. oU r tc help correct the abus.?.. thht are already apparent. Clearly, the ultimate bulwark of our democracy is men of good faith and high character who play by the rules of our game, and who win the approv- al of their policy recommendations the hard way, by winning the approval of a majority of our colleagues, repre- senting a consensus to move in one ell. g tween the ou e c y are aying the - ---e ?? ~.vuuun tCe and people. No one can Rrite leas which the Iran-Contra Investigating Com- groundwork for possible retailiatory actions against create a completely adequate aubsti- mittee has been excellent bya for a suspected Involvement in and is as , t b tut- for lilt- silted b trig of a West Berlin discotheque.'' Belly and good character. by considerable overlap in the Then the next day, Tuesday, April 8, the Nevertheless, a clear need for im- Membership of those two bodies. I Wall Street Journal. again: ?? 'Reagan and provements in the laws which govern look forward to the remainder of the his advisers are united in wanting to re these covert operations has already' investigation and to the recommenda- apond militarily against Qadhafi but been demonstrated by the hearings to Lions and report be the committee. I haven't agreed on a time or place to strike date. They include the requirement applaud the Members of both Houses back.' a senior administrati . CBSon ofninal said Nev%s. clearing up aloopholes regard- who sit on the investigating body. I be- On the same day, CBS Evening ng in for frig the a requirement any n for olese find- lieve the serious and careful approach West est Berl n, h Re after the bombing to the as has ings he iref r a writ condition they have taken to this difficult task reached auv the consensus for sus ftitary or military raaretaliation sill, in years to come, serve as a model against aLiabya for the conduct of covert operations. The whole idea of covert findings" and a reminder to future administra- On Wednesday, April Y, CBS Evening should ho debunked. Second, they s" tions of the unnecessary and corrosive News: "According to a highly-placed source. shou more precise Second, Tin- e- damage that an over-reliance on secre- President Reagan has approved another quir of ludemmor by the executive bto e- cy and deception and lying brings to possible military strike against Libya. The those covert actions which must be Unten- our great system of government. White House denied rumors today that a those covert in emergency which tube Mr. President, I ask unanimous con- but a military w ayd respaced was ig eence ey underway, when when sent that statements by Chairman that military response source said prior notice for good reason IxovyE, dated July 15, 1987; Chairman a mlitary response has been ap- be given to the oversight com- HAMILTON, dated July 15, 1987; and pro ha same even mittees-such notification should be Senator MrrcuELL, dated July 14, 1987 night: "The understanding nowd is -that a given within 2 or 3 days after the be printed in the RECORD. strike against Libya Is in the works. If It President approves, in any case. In There being no objection, the state- comes to that, seldom will US. military those very unusual cases, notification ments were ordered to be printed in action have been so widely and publicly ad- should be given to a small consultative the RECORD, as follows: vertised to advance, group consisting of the leadership of STATEMENT BY CHAra g,as DANIEL INOCYI Thursday, day. Bth, Today are getting both Houses and the leadership of the ministration to e ay ]NBC That Show: ?a- oversight committees. Third, no Chairman JULY 15. 1987 moofficials say that intense plan- agency of the Government should be Colonel North. YEMr Sullivan, I think much. Lib a underway for retaliation. against exempt from the rules governing are now at the end of a long six days. The On the same day'. the New York Times: covert actions, including, of course, questions I had cannot be answered because "Administration officials said that Libyan the National Security Council. Mr. some of those who could have answered military sites were the prime options under and others have argued that these questions are not here with us and, consideration for retaliation and that North the Nations] others tr edl hfurthermore, I am certain you will agree among the key possibilities are Libyan air been so onal Securi and exempt from has the with me, that we have had enough ques- bases near the coast, the official said that lions here. coastal electronic list- restrictions of the Boland amendment I'd like to first. before proceeding with my early warning mile posts . including which prohibited direct or indirect statement, because of the call of fairness, that aim' s hip well ff units ic, are military aid to the Contras. He is dis- clarify the record. Much has been said also key tarrge And as we know. they puted in this assertion by other formal about fairness to witness, fairness to the were the targets. officials, such as Mr. McFarlane. That President. fairness to the Government. arguable as In response to a On Friday, to April 11. NBC Today Show: loophole, as It might be. question of two of my ''The goal is to strike as many targets should be slammed shut for fellow panel members relating to the bomb- possible, as close to the coast to reduce the good. ing of Libya, you said, for example, today, danger to American aircraft.'' Fourth, the law needs to be precise in "When the briefing conducted by the Presi. Saturday, April 12. New York Times: -Ad- its definition of what constitutes a dent concluded at about 5:00 or 5:30, two ministration officials speculated that the covert action, since it is nowhere de- Members of Congress"-and you meant two water strip placed in abeyance, at least for fined today except in an Executive Members of the Senate-"proceeded imme- the moment, a retaliatory strike against Order. Informal or gentlemanly ar- diately to waiting microphones" and noted Libya, but officials declined to rule out a rangemeni< between the two branches that the President was going to make a raid. even in the next 48 hours." ra or, these matters the proven tom- heretofore unannounced address to the Associated Press: "The British Mail on or, ]y se maters and where n tom- Nation on Libya. Sunday said Mrs. Thatcher had 'cleared the pl a granted suffici the executive f seems I would tell you that the volume of fire way for President Reagan to use British y over to have simply been taken advantage evening- Two ALn capital was merican airmen e that bases to launch a massive new air attack on of. a mechanism for the executive, or consequence of that antiaircraft fire. as best Another AP: ??Itahan Premier Bettino others acting in his behalf, purported- we can determine. They alerted our adver- Craxi told reporters Saturday. April 12 in ly, believing that he would give ap- saries.?? Milan. 'I don't believe there will be a mili- prot?al, if asked, to evade the spirit of When the response was first made a few Lary intervention there before Monday.' ?' , and avoid the need to build a days ago. I checked with senior officials of The same evening, consensus with the Congress. Fifth, the Senate and looked into the record "By Monday. the diplomatic Nightly blobbying will the the pri lawt consensus with the these First, these two Members did not stop at be completed. and Administration sources policy ac- the bank of microphones near the White indicate that means a strike could come a. tions cannot be used again so as to cir- House. They immediately' left and returned early as Tuesday.- eumvent the law's passed by the to the senate. Thm they sere confronted Drifted Stale Congress by members of tt,? Mr Pres;d. r,t the i't -~o...r 1r.- alxmded. --No co'- is r; t "You should d . h alt tr.? t'rc the end of a tt? er bu:r t''a t a e He might have in which legi_lative action could be 9:00 taken by the' Intelligence Committec, The is US P-lu- ie': Nr,:a; o;, at the recommendation of the investi- Monday. April 14 a 12 13 p.tr. ell bne!,r1. gating Committee, an interim ~g~ at 4'00 and the bombe fell at 7:OL Of legislative package However, a week before the bombing. CBS Proposals might be con- Evening News had this say Top U .S. of? sidered. Indeed, Senate Resolution 23, ficials acknowledge that detailed military which created the Iran-Contra Investi- contingency plans for retaliation already gating Committee this past January, exist. Said one source, 'They involve five does Provide for such interim reports targets in Libya.' ?? to the Senate as s are considered appro- On the same day, the Wall Street Journal priate. The workin are .ens.,. ___ had this to say: "U.S. officials are putting t the word that the l Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/12/09: CIA-RDP90M00004ROO1000060006-5 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/12/09: CIA-RDP90M00004ROO1000060006-5 July f2,1987 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE Wa-:Mnpn Post "After oortWting oon? T K Jacques Chirac b: d??::ded to rrlect t' .. ,.t rights, and ti A:.^ da; bciu:e the bombing. NBC T..:?; > Tt ws ' Adrn:ni;tration officials say th; P:e:.Dent moving towards a decision abou whether to make a retaliatory strike aga;ris: Libya, and White House officials confirm the President will have a special na- tional security meeting tomorrow to evalu- ate the situation. Today. the President con- ferred with Vice President Bush and Secre- tary of State Shultz, both of whom are be- lieved to favor a military strike. Notably absent from the Camp David meeting was Defense Secretary Weinberger, who is be- lieved to oppose such action.- 1 think it is grossly unfair to suggest that two Aruerican lives were lost because one ieddt:n sa:o. "No comment," and the other s::ici ' I believe you should ask the Presi. dent. He may have something to say tonight at t' Fr ,rr thy beginning of the history of man- kinc. o ga. ,u;ed societies whether they be tribe: o- clans. or nations, have nurtured and created heroes, because heroes are nec- essary to serve as a cement to unite people, to bring units in that nation. It provides glory to their history. It pro- yid" legends. We ha%t many heroes. This hear' nE is being held in Washington, the city of heroes. the crry of monuments We hat hundreds of monuments in this city. In the Capitol in Statuary Hail, each State has honored two of their heroes or hero:rtes. The State of Hawaii honors King Kamehameha, the Warrior King, and Father Damiet:, who L soon to become a saint. And if you step or, the west steps of the M,:l and look down the majestic Mall. you wi.; see the Monument of George Washing- ton very majestic I remember a: a child. long before I heard of the RevotuttonLry War. t, at one day Georg: Washington was cor,fro-.ted by his father, who asked. "Who cut tht cherry tree?' And little George an- swered "Father, I cannot lie I cut the criers: tire." It wm an lr.?port?ant lesson to C., little children, and I believe it sills is a 810477 atnceriU, I wish ym well as you begin your portarit tenets of ccrnrr,;:n]srr, and 1o rr; o t rte a lit the ends , - }:.:.... t t -. Ls is .. ...,?. rr and as The v or, v , a ;s. t, trig mating of moc-rar% C ? . t'.t_ n-.% Aral -.r,t 1 u,.i?ti n resin as ment c-t rr.,'. gx(:] C': yG::' It :: r.:,r' tk ti mcsi troll- laws bling Cna:rrrar Hsra:tor, has eloquently And ftn.a1:: t: t uszt~ disc us:ra tier. thousand: of c t:: ea w rare calve c s' Be use. as a r^su:t of your very gallant telegrams, and wr.t:rt. presence, and your articulate statements, thank all of Yoe: most sincerely tend corr. your life. I am certain, will be emulated b} many mend you for your demonstrated interest in , many young Americans I am certain well being of our Government. of our we will, all of hrs. receive an abundance of re the freedoms and our democracy. quests from young citizens throughout the land for entrance into the privileged ranks Your support or opposition of what is of cadets of the Military Services. happening in this room is important, impor- These young citizens. having been Imbued tant because it dramatically demonstrates with the passion of pattiotism? will do so; the Strength of this democracyWe Amen. and to these young men and women, I wish cans are confident in our strength to openly to address a few wards: and without fear put into action one of the In 1964, when Colonel North was a cadet, important teachings of our greatest Found he took an oath of office like all hundreds Ing Pather; Thomas Jefferson, who stoke of throughout the sersiee academies. And he the right to dissent, the right to criticize the also said that he will abide with the regu)a- leaders of this Government and he said. Lions which set forth the cadet honor con- "The spirit of resistance to Government is dept. so valuable on certain occasions that I wish The first honor concept. first because it is it to be always kept alive. It will often be e>. so important over and above all other. iF a ercised when aroma= but better so than net very simple one A member of the brigade to be exercised at all does not lie, cheat or steal. And in this ref- Unlike corny-:unisrn, L: a democracy suer ulation of 1964, the word "lie" was defined as ours we are not afraid to wash our dirty as follows- liner, in public We are not afraid to let the "A deliberate oral or written untruth: It world know that we do have failure and we may be an oral or written statement which do have shortcomings is known to be false or simple response to a I think all of us will recall the open irvi::- Question in which the answer is known to be ties that we sent to the press of the world fats:.' to view the space flights. to record our su:- Tne words "mislead- or "deceive" were de- cesses and record our failures. fined as follows ?'A deliberate misrepresen- We permit all to film and record our space tation of a true situation by being untruth- flights. We don't after the fact let the world ful or withholding or subtly wording infor- know only of our successes. And I think we mat ion in such a way as to leave an errone- should recall that we did not prohibit any ous or false impression of a known true situ- member of the world press to film and ation.?" record one of the bloodiest chapters of our And when the colonel put on his uniform domestic history. the demonstration and and the bars of a second lieutenant, he was riots in the civil rights period. well aware that he was subject to the Uni- This was not ea y, to let the world know form Code of Milian Justice. It is a special that we had police dogs and police officers code of laws that apply to our men and wttl whips and club denying fellow cftsens it is a code that has been applicabie to the their rights, but I have always felt that as conduct and activities of Colonel North. long as we daily reseffirm our belief in and throughout his military career, and even at support of our Constitution and the great this moment. And that code makes it abun. principles of freedom. that was long ado dantly dear that orders of a superior officer enunciated by our Founding Fathers, we must be obeyed by subordinate members will continue to prevail and flouris: . . very important lessor':. But it is lawful orders. I would like to make one more closing Then if you go fairer doss.. co:: will see The uniform code makes it abundantly remark. Throughout. the past ten days, the Lincoln Memories;. where we honor a clear that it must be the lawful orders of a Marty of my colleagues on this panel ire grea? President for the courage he demon- superior officer. opening their questions to the Colonel, pre s:rs:ec in upilot-ding the brotherhood of In fact, it says. "Members of the military fae'ed their marks by saying, "Colonel. I am ma:, It wasn't easy durinc thus- days. have an obligation to disobey unlawful certain you know that I voted for aid to the Tiler, you have Ar;.ng c :i. a sacred place. orders." contras " Mtn yu:, sewed with and me.- I served with This principle was considered so impor- Ladies and gentlemen and Colonel Nora, us' t:,a: as their' f: na: resting place, all tant that we, we the Government of the I voted against aid to the contras. I did sc? he r`e' United State;. proposed that it be Interns- not as a communist. I die se not as an agent 'It..,: ycu hate Letts Mansion This was tioral]y applied in the Nuremberg t.nals and of the KGB. I did so upon information that the home cf the great ge;i:,emar, iron Vir- so Jr, the Nuremberg trial, we said toat the I garnered as a member of the bipartisan g:-::a. Vie honor' hiss today for his great fact that the defendant-- Comnissio n on Centra- America based upon drrnorc;ratton o` icyat:y aria pateio_isrn. Chatrmsr, "-o-,Tx. Coiohel North. I stn information that I gathered as Chairman of An? as at w! back to the L!ncoir. Memo- certa: it must have been painful for you as the Foreign Operations Committee, based ri r ,d ilearc;, we see this new and ex,;!- you stated to testify that you lied to senior upon information that I gathered as a fug monument. one tc your fei,ov, combat officials of our Government. that you lied senior member of the Defense Subeornmi:- nir:. the Vie:r..tr Bier or' a.t and misled ou- Congress and believe me it W. and based upon information that I I :t-:iet during tit past wt. )c. wt have was painfu' for' ail of us to sit here and gathered as Chairman and a Member of the Pa-ilcluated in, creatinc and de?,t?ior.;:.g very lister to that t'sttmons. It was painful Senate Irt:elligF^;w Committee. 1:--t?'? es. Armen ar rer;. It was equai:y painful to learn from your I voted agaarut aid to the eontra_. It ye..: who has Set the burrtr,g sting testimon:, that you lied and misled because wasn't easy tc vote ag?a s: Your Command cf a-.d shrapne; and heave Lie unfor- of what ye,_ beheted to be a just cause. sup Inr Chief. It in not easy to stand before irrttan,- ar.d frghter:r.g sou::d, of incc?:nirig Porters of Nicaraguan: freedom fighters, the cc?lies gags arc find yo:rrst-If in disap-t'< salute you. s::. as a fei;oc: combat contra;. men: but that is the narun? of derrecrec: ma:,. and the rows of r,obons that you have You have eio:,uently articulated your oh- I did so because I was firmly convinced on your chest forete: remand us of the co,,;- position, to Marxism arid commune :: and I that to f011ov. the path e- the ware that car, o l- sen,ce and your wihtnpyws-. your believe- that al of u--. I am certain s-: of ti= w?a laid dowt, by the Reagan p-ti tiss p+:ro r ti:lirttrnr?c: to rise: your inc and on this pane: are eouz;]y opposed to Man.- would certai::i, and L"ev!tably lead to a y t.: : ixm ann coinm -nisi:. . a . ceri,a.i , the hie arid burdttr o, a hero But should point wrerr yuool mgr and sennt, iof the vt t Y, the defense of tiemoc-a Prised S: ate= mould hs:?e w be sent rate t*< a:: Oe d.1ti:u1; aa,c heavy, aria bo. ant: al: cy adept and em--race one cf the most ire,- cu :f:.: t. at,d Co--.,e: I am ce :.a..-. haver.; Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/12/09: CIA-RDP90M00004ROO1000060006-5 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/12/09: CIA-RDP90M00004ROO1000060006-5 __Ntaais tbMe open asaf for tae tan was wmsttroat fife ft" !r' b. iiactt. a coder bsaordng. The unit" states d ow tae to w ststtoq? "one am fawn usi*UKW Waste bttt01l bob 112 mandated Mr. Preside the I n wtra Qt- =andad, "NO s wow One otwedw her it said, by Senate Reectutyo i 23, to make red. vest.igation final report Is now due at Fo a :, le ask t~hr re '3 the questior. ornr..fndatlona for new legislIt% and the, end of October, but in those Lresr t- !, Light at a:'nc:,dn,enta to existing laws a: well it; which legislative action could be i9 as Other thing;, to help co.-e-, the tLker by the Intelligence Committer. T~. 1e L'.s v 213 he air, on abuses that are already apparent.- at the recommendation of the investi- CkApr:; 14 at he bombs fell 1 p.m The at 7:00 Clearly. the intimate. bulwark of our gating eoaunittee, an interim package fO Ds' a Week at 40o and the the bombing. CBS democracy is men of good faith and of legislative con- ntng News had before this "Top U.S CBs high character who play by the rules sidered. Indeed, Senate Resolution lnight 3. facials o: that dealed military. of- y of our game, and who win the which created the Iran?Contra Investi- contingency * lane for detailed already al of their approv na' Plans for tetaltatJon policy recommendations the gating Committee this past January, exist. Said one source. 'They involve five hard way. by winning the approval of does Provide for such interim reports targets in Libya' ?' a majority of our colleagues, repre. to the Senate as are considered appro. On the same diay, the Wall Street Journal sent gar. U.S. ins a consensus to move in one di- Priate. The working relationship be- had the to word ? that Officials are putting rection or another by the American tween the Intelligence Committee and out the word that they are laying the people. No one can write laws which the Iran-Conte Investigating Corn. groundwork for possible retailimory, actions against bombing a for a suspected invol create a completely adequate substi. mittee has been excellent. and is as. the iwoth e u in Berlin tute for integrity and good character. slated by considerable overlap in the Thenthenext day. Tuesday. April the Nevertheless, a clear need for tam- Membership of those two bodies. I Wall Street Journal, again: ?? -Reagan and provements in the laws which govern look forward to the remainder of the his advisers are united in wanting to re. these covert operations has already investigation and to the recommends- 'pond militarily against Qadhafl but been demonstrated by the hearings to Lions and report of the committee. I haven't agreed on a time or place to strike date. They include the requirement applaud the Members of both Houses back. a senior administration official said " for clearing up any loopholes regard- who sit on the investigating body. I be- On the same day. CBS Evening News. lag the requirement for l oopholes r find- lieve the serious and careful approach Forty-eight hours after the bombing in written rl tags by the President as a condition they have taken to this difficult task Wreached ent Bea T for m m, the Reagan military has for the conduct of covert operations. will, in years to come. serve as a model against Libyy&ilitary retaliation The whole idea of covert findings and a reminder to future adminfstra. On Wednesday, April 9. CBS Evening should be debunked. Second, they in. Lions of the unnecessary and corrosive News: ??Aocordmg to a highly-plat.~ed source. elude more precise notification re- damage that an over-r?elianee on serre? President Reagan has approved another quir of cludemmor by red executive branch e- cy and deception and lying brings to possible military strike seat= Irbya. The those covert actions which must be un- our great system of government. Whin House denied rumors today that a th derLLke ose c n in emergency must b situations Mr. President, I ask unanimous con- but unary. 1a was already underway. when sent that statements by Chairman ba well-placed intelligence source said prior notice for good reason Iieovrs, dated July 15. 1987; Chairman that a military response has been W cannot be given to the oversight com- HAMILTolt dated July 15, 1987; and pTOThatt same eve mittees-such notification should be Senator M nips. ABC World Ness that a given within 2 or 3 days after the t.l dated July 14. 1987 night .'The understanding now is that a President approves, in any be printed In in the Racoso. strike against Irby' is in the works If it those very unusual cases, otif tion meats were ordered O ObJtto ape the state- coma to that, seldom will UA. sanitary should be given to a small consultative printed in action have been e. ?Ide1f and publicly ad- the Rsroan, as follows: vertised in advance:' group consisting of the leadership of SrxrocMT By Caitngatxrr Dexrn. Ixocra Thursday, April 10th, we are both Houses and the leadership of the JULY 15,198' closer to the day. NBC Today Snow. lad oversight cornmitteea. Third. no ministration officials lnue. Chairman Ixot7yr Thank you very much. Ring is underw say that Lion. se pint agency of the Government should be Colonel North, Mr. Sullivan, I think we Libya ay for retaltaior. against exempt from the rules governing are now at the end of a long six days The On the acme day. the New York Times covert actions, including, of course. Questions i had cannot be answered because ..Administration Officials said that Libyan the National Security Council. Mr. Some of those who could have answered military sites were the prime options under North and others have argued that these questions are not here with us and. consideration for retaliation and that the National Security Council has furthermore, I am certain you will agree among the key possibilities are Libyan air been so exempt, and exempt from the with me, that we have had enough Ques- bases near the coast, the official said that restrictions of the Boland amendment vI d like to first, before coastal electronic listening Proceeding with my early posts. including prohibited direct or indirect statement, because of the call of fairness, that pi ~es' well asp military aid to the Contras. He is dis- clarity the record. Much has been said also key P ~'e and ship traffic, are targets puled in this assertion by other formal about fairness to witness, fairness to the were the And as we know, they officials, such as Mr. McFarlane. That President, fairness to the Government. tarreu loophole, arguable as it might be. In response tea On Foiday. April 11. NBC Today Show Question of two of MY "The sofa is strike as many targets should be slammed shut for good. fellow Panel members relating to the bomb- posh possible. as close to the coast to reduce the Fourth, the law needs to be precise in Ing of Libya, you said, for example. today, danger to American aircraft - Its definition Of what constitutes "When the briefing conducted by the Presi- Saturday, April 12. Neu York Times "Ad- a dent concluded at about 5:00 or 5.30, two ministratioL officials speculated that the covert action. since It is nowhere de- Members of Congress"--.and you meant two water strip placed in abeyance, at least for fined today except in an Executive Members of the Senate-..proceeded Imme- the moment. a retaliatory strike against Order. Informal or gentlemanly ar_ diat.ely,to waiting microphones'' and noted Lib3a but officials declined to rule out a rangement, between the two branches that the President was going to make a raid. even in the next 48 hours." on these matters have proven corn- heretofore unannounced address to the Associated Press: "The British mail or, pletely insufficient, and where flexibil- Nation on Libya. Sunday said Mrs. Thatcher had 'cleared the icy L, granted to the executive it seems ?1 would Loll you that the volume of fire way for President to have simply been taken adtantage ev over enings o~Amencan gas imen j mn'died t ha! a au, launch a maasivae new air use attack or. of. a mechanism for the executive, or consequence of that antiaircraft fire. as best Anothe- AP. ?'Itatar. Premier Bettina others acting in his behalf. Purported- we can determine- They alerted our adver- Craxi told repor ters Saturday. Apra: 12 in ther l~ , believing that he would give ap. wrist " prove'., if asked. W evade the spirit of When the Mira r? 'I don't intervention there befor will d a mil,. response was first made a tea ta->? warn thebefore ,ghtl . the law, and avoid the need to build a daYi- ago. I checked with senior officials of The sage evening. consensus with the Congress. the Senate and looked into the record NBC Ni bbyi News Fifth, First, these two Members did not stop at be coin Pieed. the and~Administrator.sourees the privatization of these policy ac- the bank of microphones near the White indicate, that means a strike could come as tioris cannot be used again so as to cir- House They. immediatel3 left and returned early as'Iuescis~ Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/12/09: CIA-RDP90M00004ROO1000060006-5 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/12/09: CIA-RDP90M00004ROO1000060006-5 July i2,1887 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE anent of snbslles to Iran You have testified that It has never been ;'S poach not U- ne gotiate with terrorL14 y e : t!,? F7es -it r ; La said the opposite. tr.a: wt L.. ;.-'.t' r,;; ate with terrorists Yo i.art tt:':f,e u... a lot of people were wii::nF Lc, go along ui'' what we were doing, hoping against hcpt that it would succeed. and willing to walk away when It failed. My guess is that is a pretty accurate de. scription of what happened, but it is not the way to run a government. Secret operations should pass a sufficient test of accountabil- ity, and these secret operations did not pass that test. There was a lack of accountability for funds and for policy, and responsibility rests with the President. If he did not know of your highly significant activities done in his name, then he should have, and we will obviously have to ask Admiral Poindexter some questions. The next point, with regard to process, re- lates to your attitude toward the Congress. As you would expect., I am bothered by your comments about the Congress. You show very little appreciation for its role in the foreign policy process. You acknowledge that you were "erroneous, misleading, eva- sive, and wrong" in your testimony to the Congress. I appreciate. sir, that honesty can be hard in the conduct of government, but I am impressed that policy was driven by a series of lies: lies to the Iranians, lies to the Central Intelligence Agency, lies to the At- torney General, lies to our friends and allies, lies to the Congress, and lies to the American people. So often during these hearings. not just during your testimony, but others as well, I have been reminded of President Thomas Jefferson's statement: "The whole art of government consists in the an of being honest." Your experience has been in the Execu- tive Branch. and mine has been in the Con- gress. Inevitably our perspectives will differ. Nonetheless. if I may say so, you have an extraordinarily expansive view of Presiden- tial power. You would give the President free rein in foreign affairs You said on the first day of your testimony, and I quote, '?I didn't want to show Congress a single word on this whole thing " I do not set how your attitude can be rec- onciled with the Constitution of the United States. I often find in the Executive Branch, in this administraacn, as well as others, a view that the Congress is not a partner but an adversary The Constitution grants for- eiun policy making powers to both the President and the Congress and our foreign policy cannot succeed unless they work to- gether. You blame the Congress as if the re- strict;uri_: it app-wec were the cause of mis- takes in in, adn r.u:ratior.: yet Congres- sinr,a: r. .. ions it the case of Nicaragua- if pee- a^e accura:e-reflected the ma- )ori. t,? . ' tht Amcncan people. Zr. any cast.. I think you and I would agree that there is insufficient consensus on policy in Nicaragua Public opinion is deeply divided. and the task of leadership, it seems to mt. is to build puhiic support for policy. If that burden: of leadership is not met. secret policies cannot succeed over the long terry. The fourth potni with regard to process relates to means ant ends. As I understand your testimon; you d:d what you did be- cause Choice were your orders and because you believed it Was for a good cause. I cannot agree that the ends justified these means, that the threat in Central America was on great that we had to do something, even if It meant dis-egarding constitutional processes, deceiving the Congress and the American People. The means employed were a profound threat' to the democratic proc- ess A de rr.r, ratlc government. a: I ur.-?- it.c asniuuon.but It Is awe. c s sol.t: r;. It is not a governmer,t dE c a particular objective, but a form of g ment which specifies means and me:tn'd, e: achieving objectives. Methods and nit ~r., are what this country is all about. If we s.il. vert our democratic process to bring about a desired end, no matter how strongly we may believe in that end, we have weakened our country, and we have not strengthened It. The few do not know what is better for Americans than Americans know them- selves. If I understand our government cor- rectly, no small group of people, no matter how important, no matter how well inten- tioned they may be, should be trusted to de- termine policy. As President Madison said, "Trust should be placed not in a few but in a number of hands." Let me conclude. Your opening statement made the analogy to a baseball game. You said the playing field here was uneven and the Congress would declare Itself the winter. I understand your sentiments. but may I suggest that we are not engaged in a game with winners and losers. That ap- proach, if I may say so, is self-serving and ultimately self-defeating. We all lost. The interests of the United States have been damaged by what happened. This country cannot be run effectively when major foreign policies are formulated by only a few, and are made and carried out in secret, and when public officials lie to other nations and to each other. One purpose of these hearings is to change that. The self-cleansing process, the Tower Commission, and these joint hear- ings, and the report which will follow, are all part, we hope, of a process to reinvigo- rate and restore our system of government. I don't have any doubt at all. Colonel North, that you are a patriot. There are many patriots in this country, fortunately, and many forms of patriotism. For you, per- haps patriotism rested in the conduct of deeds. some requiring great personal cour- age, to free hostages and fight communism. And those of us who pursue public service with less risk to our physical well-being admire such courage. But there's another form of patriotism which is unique to democracy. It resides in those who have a deep respect for the rule of law and faith in America's democratic traditions. To uphold our Constitution re- quires not the exceptional efforts of the few but the confidence and the trust and the work of the many. Democracy has its frustrations. You've ex- perienced some of them. but we-you and I-know of no better system of government and when that democratic process is sub- verted. we risk all that we chensl: I thank you. sir. for your I t:mer.y. and I wish you and I wish your lama;, well. STATEMENT BY SENATOR MITCHELL. JULY 14. 1987 You have talked here often eloquently about the need for a democratic outcome in Nicaragua. There's no disagreement on that. There's disagreement as how best to achieve that objective. Many Americans agree with the President's policy, many do not. Many patriotic Americans. strongly anticommu- nist, believe there's a better way to contain the Sandinistas. to bring about a democratic outcome in Nicaragua and to bring peace to Central America Many patriotic Americans are concerned in the pursuit of democracy abroad we cannot compromise it in any way here at home. You and others have urged consisten- cy in our policies. you have said repeatedly that if we are not consistent our allies and other nations will question our reliability. S 10479 That is a real eoneem But If It's bad to ehw-i-' T.- Vies it's wc-"e to have two d1f- t b' , _.. -...... One c t. c:. . . : :r. c.r ...:r I? . c to L: tee-.'. w.: ugrre Cu' k...ir mere cause to con us Lr.real:ab.' t.'.ar' that we sat one- Ln;ng in public any se-c-cL:y do the opposite And that's exactly wnat was done when arms were sold to Iran and arms were swapped for hostages Now, you have talked a lot about patriot- ism and the love of our country. Most na- tions derive from a single tribe, a single race; they practice a single religion. Common racial; ethnic religious heritages are the glue of nationhood for many. The United States is different: we have all races, all religions, we have a limited common her- itage. The glue of nationhood for us is the American ideal of Individual liberty and equal justice. The rule of law is critical in our society. It's the great equalizer, because In America everybody is equal before the law. We must never allow the end to justify the means where the law is concerned. How - ever important and noble an objective, and surely democracy abroad is important and is noble. It cannot be achieved at the expense of the rule of law in our country. And your diversity is very broad You talked about your background and it was really very compelling, and is obviously one of the reasons why the American people are attracted to you Let me tell you a story from my back- ground. Before I entered the Senate I had the great honor of serving as a federal judge. In that position I had great power. The one I most enjoyed exercising was the power to make people American citizens. From time to time I presided at what we call nationalization ceremonies: they're citizen- ship ceremonies. These are people who came from all over the world, risked their lives, sometimes left their families and their fortunes behind to come here. They had gone through the reti..ired procedures. and I in the final act ads :: nistered to then; the oath of allegiance to the United States, and I made them American citizens. To this moment, to this moment it was the most ex- citing thing I have ever done in my lift. Ceremonies were always moving for me because my mother was an immigrant, my father the orphan son of immigrants. Nei- ther of them had any education and tn-y worked at very mer..z: tasks in our society. But because of the openness of America. be- cause of equal justice under law in Amens a. I sit here today a United States Senator And after every one of these ceremonies- I made it a point to speak to these new Amer- icans. I asked their. why they came. lion they came, and the stories. each of them. was inspiring. I think you would be interest ed and moved by theme given the views that you have expressed or this count. y. And when I asked them why they carne they said several things. mostly two. The first is they said we came because here in America everybody has a chance. opportuni- ty. And they also said over and over again. particularly people from totalitarian, soci eties. we carne here because here in America you can criticize the government without looking over your shoulder. Freedom to dis agree with the government Now, you have addressed several pleas to this committee very eloquently. None more eloquent than last Friday when in response to a question by Representative Cheney you asked that Congress net cut off aid to the contras for the love of God and for the lore of country. I now aocress a plea to you O: all the qualities which the American peopi, Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/12/09: CIA-RDP90M00004ROO1000060006-5 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/12/09 : CIA-RDP90M00004ROO1000060006-5 do Mso ONA.L R - SMAT J_Jy 2 laud eontpeliltta about you. tone b more ls#- prrsire (than your cih:lntt 0?c:p d, city t" thus co.:. T. atiarr I':.. C' rind a:tY tort th e:, .,.- ms, ak rr.uCt, a_ 7no dL Ante tn't;. h rF't :::,.r'. as1 FC to dL u Qed done inert Cate SML-_, to American pule tics And to Amerrta, duragreerneril slth the toflcletc Of the "Oovetnrnem Is not evidence of lack of patriotism I ware to repeat hear In America. di. *Ereratent situ the pottcies of the fovern- twerrt is not evidence of Ink of patriotism. 1wkv-d, ft b the very Tact that Americans can criticise Weir dovernrarnt openly and nithoal fest? Of ?lprtsat that Is the essence of our freeeem, and that V'!11 veep as free. f have eee find plea. Debate t Issue famefal ty and etreroasty as "a have and as !eti 9 7 will. but. phase. do it to a swab. ttrat respeets The patriot ism and The nrotrres of these who dlsat?ree swim you. as you s'outd 4nnvet'hem respect pours. hank 7af very rtrach, Colones. QESgRVATIO7C Or TffE REPUBLICAN LEADER'S TIME Mr. BYRD. Mr. President. I "- 4111"M611 s ooaSWtt that the (fuse of tfse tthstaw wished Republican ieadev be reserved for bu use tiater in the day. The ACTIWG PRESIDENT pro ten- pore. Without objection. It Is so or- dered. MOR? D O BUSINESS The ACTING PREIDENT pro tem- pore. Under the 4re%iotas girder, there will now be a period for the transac- tion of tnor'ting business not to extend beyond 10 a.m. ttith Senators permit- ted to speak therein for not la exceed 5 minutes. The Senator from W isconsin. LET'S STOP SHREDDTIJG OF vrTAL NATIONAL SECURITY DOCUMENTATION Mr. PROXMIRE. Mr. President? to listening to the Testimony of Colonel North- Admlr?a7 Poindexter. and others at the Iran Contra (hearings, I am re- minded of a song written a few yew ago by Lerner and Lane. 'Thesong title was: Be Car. You Believe Me When i Sal I hose Yoti Wnen You Know I`Z?e Been a Lia- AI'. My Life"" Now, in t.estimou,y before the Congress and the country, these witnesses admit they lied again and agair and again. And why did they fie? To protect the Fres;- dent. So doesn't It seem logical to assume that when they are asked mhcthe- they had e?.er told the Press den: above the diversion ci profit: from the Iran arms saic:. and whey they know that if they answered ",ye: I have told the President," it would put their Commander in Chief in jeop- ardy, that once again they would not hest,itat.e to lie. if necessary, to protect Pt, i- Ccrn-ra rder i-. Ct:icf"' Anr; d,-.-.': is See: o rst e.mmg: li-l'e;t t r:: some tumc in the long zucnths Of tttk tranaw'tioa so dear to the R?eai- denYs hear: that North or Poind(-jn4r r t ::r s'c.u.J tsaf reprrtnd the tnith tt'u er,r.a: trarrre to the Con- t thFi rte?' Po'fls t:id,..tt t::at tt.e T.e'r:car people believe that tl-,f- Prt~,idCn is b.:.g whey. he Say& he did sicn: knew about this 'dite.rsion of Iran tnerte5 4s the Cootns. The evidence proving or disproving this has been art racked. Would !Korth. Poindexter, and the ethers 'fear that the written. docu- rnented evidence would be likely to expose Any lie they told under oath before the Joint Ceraatittee as crietti- .aai perjury and result in a sail sen- t cies ,MaZ: be. But they -bad shredded the rridesice meticulously. So, they're taking a gamble. But isn't that the 'tame of the game they are playing? Mr. President. It is time the Con- gress stopped this practice of shred- ding or dcatxoy ing critical ciocumerted natk.na) security information to pro- tect the President. I have tried to do this before. But I failed. On November 21. 1996. I suggested to the office of the Senate Democ atic Leader. RoanRr SYRL that be call on Win iam 'Webster then FBI Director to move at once to locate. collect. .secure. catalog, and safeguard all files. document& and other materials related to the Iran arms sate. the diversion of thew. funds %e assist the Contra forces in Central America and the use of Swiss bank ac- counts for This purpose. Senator Beat? agreed. Be wrote the FBI Director Webster wraking the request that the FBI assure the safeguarding of the alocumentr.. Sc what happened" Tice shredding went ahead anyway. The dorument.s were destroyed. The Con- gress and the country will never know the truth New Mr. President. this is a not the first time this destruction of -uciai documentation is! illegal activity by a President or subordinate acting for him 'has taker place. Tice same thing happened in the Watergate case. There too I tried to persuade our law enforcement authorities to safeguard critical material. But what happened'. In Watergate too the shredding went auerity on. destroying critical docu- ments, essential to determine the trt:t h 2.1r. Pre-. I, is time U f pia an er:d to tr-: c_- vac for Pres;den (t tc. a o,d aC:.OC_,' ti iuy for the'- ur.a;vfal acts. Vi car. and should stop the shredd:_n of al: relevant documerts. Why- no:" Wet there are two objec- tahn s we Vii'. certain(:' earountFr to leg-s(ssic-r ti.o. a?c,-:d ai,:o:rr:.._ . one s;:rt. pre =r:i sue: cr::::a oc?- n_ Fes-, we w: be t. d shredd.r,g n:us: oc- ur. W:_r' Be a i.' if the Gc-tierrrnent d.d not oes;.rc?~ t.n- colossa'. amount of paper generated in tl-_is cii- we aauld Shortly be hli-Te-; under a mountain of pe;ie-r H miles high, covering net on'v. the D~S+rtc: of Cci>u-nbi.. bit rnur.. of the Tile firtswer 1-o int. 3L - Presiciect. is a.s.ita.b in our rncv- iecl.nc,.c+n _;. We O tier 9niti4sew of plerrt of &O1W- rr.at,rx tc t s! ;~;r eom'- , chip E infi- nftf a c' d~ a'i(d d.,: umenta- 2rc,r. a L iur5E t the alit; that We will rut a ; t of s;;.acc it we ,safeguard critical mate-ii., Th( second ob -^cuon a: a taw safe- truardint the material is that the in- formation is too dtaarerous to preserve at all, too sensitn'e. too threatening to our national security and to true lives of brave and patriotic Americans Who are engaged in iatelligenoe act cities. Of course this objection bas saerit. But Is H beyond the capacitF ai this co retry to proride a system of ti ly safeguarding such information? It Is one thing for a briefing officer to walk Into a room and discuss classified in- formation with a hundred or more persons present. including elected offi- cials and Presidentia115 appointed offi- cials If that briefing officer discusses tnfcumatior. thtrt-11 publicly re- leased-Would endanger the life at Americans or the national security, he is taking a risk. Under such circum- stances no system to safeguard the na- tional, security or the lives of af-merl- cans can be perfectly effective. But It is far safer to place the information in a secure place under lock and key and guard, so the asfnrmativn can only be released under carefully monitored cir- cumstances Again, there is a risk- But the risk can be much more 1-united. And we can preserve the vital capacity of the nation to preeettt unlawful con- duct by our President or his agents. For these reasons I serge the Inouye- Hamilton committee to consider as one of their recommendations a proce- dure which. henceforth, will fully pro- tect the documentation affe. ring the foreign policy and national sec urit3 activities of our Presidents. We have been burned twice now. Thirteen years ago it was the Watergate shredding. This time it is the tram-Contra shred- ding. 11 we fail to act after These two tragic experiences in which evidence was deliberately destroyed, we can count on s future President in 6 ,or ill or 15 years from now to once again give in to the temptation to use his great power to violate a lam he doesn't tike. JULY GOLDEN FLEECE GGES TO DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE b`_r. PROXMIR?. 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