AGENDA - FOR THE MEETING TO BE HELD IN ROOM 2169 NEW WAR DEPARTMENT BUILDING ON THURSDAY, 7 NOVEMBER 1946, AT 2:30 P.M.

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I. A. B. 10th Meeting
CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE GROUP
INTELLIGENCE ADVISORY BOARD
AGENDA
COPY NO. 22
For the Meeting to be held in Room 2169
New War Department Building
on .Thursday-, 7 November 19+6, at 2:30 P .M P.M.
1. NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE REQUIREMENTS -- CHINA
(C.I.G. 19)
For consideration of the recommendation contained
in C.I.G. 19, as agreed at the last I.A.B. meeting.
2. ESTABLISHMENT CF A CHANNEL BETWEEN THE CENTRAL
INTELLIGENCE GROUP AND THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF
C.T.G. 15)
For further consideration of the problems presented
in C.I.G. 15.
3. ASSIGNMENT OF FUNCTIONS IN THE FIELD OF STATIC
INTELLIGENCE TO THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE GROUP
(C.I.G. 13 and C.I.G. 13/1)
For consideration of the committee report contained
in C.I.G. 13/1.
JAMES S. LAY JR.
Secretary, N.I.A.
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C.0?TTRAL INTELLIGENCE GROUP
INTFLLIGfl CE ADVISORY BOARD
Minutes of Meetin;; held in Room 2169
New War Department Building
or. Thursday, 7 November 1946, at 2:30 P.M.
Lt. General Hoyt S. Vandenberg, Director of
Ce_?.trsl Intelligence, in the Chair
1, ?BSS PRESTI'?T
Mr. William A. Eddy, Special Assistant to the
Secretary of State for Research and In-
telligence
Maj. General Stephen J. Chamberlin, Director
of Intelligence,
Rear Admiral Thomas B. Inglis, Chief of T'oval
Intelligence
Brig. General John A. Samford, Deputy Assist-
ant Chief of Air Staff-2
ALSO PtlFSEZ T
Mr. A. Sidney Buford, Department of State
Colonel E. J. Treacy, U.S.A.
Captair R. N. Davis, U.S.1'.
Colonel E. P. Muasett, U.S.A.
Mr. Donald Edgar, Central Intelligence Group
SFCRT TARIAT
Mr. James S. Lay, Tr., Secretary, i;.I.A.
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1. NATIONAL IRTTLLIGFTJCE REQUIRT_7 'TTS--CI?IPTA
GF?P EF...L srjid that he had difficulty understanding
the purpose of this paper. If it was intended to cover over-all
long-range intelligence requirements, he felt that it was incom-
plete. If, however, it covered only some intermediate objective,
he did not have much to say except to suggest a few minor changes.
ZZ%. TLG-12 explained that this paper did not cover departmental
requirements, which it was assumed would be drawn up by the various
agencies. He pointed out, however, that uncoordinated and uncerre-
lated sets of instructions were going out to the field which did not
completely fill national requirements. Therefore, the only require-
ments put in this paper wcre those which are most important from a
national viewpoint. This paper covered only China as a trial area.
It did not attempt, however, to define the ultimate requirements
for national policy intelligence.
Gi'?~JERAL CHAMBERLIN noted that only three subjects wore covered,
whereas there are .many others of interest to the Or Eepartment.
GU-LP,.L VA!".LT BZRG said that the War Department was expected
to send those out, except in those cases there C.I.G, might specif-
ically ask for additional information.
Imo. EDGAR explained that at the first interdepartmental meet-
ing on coordination of the intelligence effort, it as agreed that
the first step should be to develop a coordinated collection of in-
tclligcnee requirements area by area throughout the world. Each
agency :representative was asp:ud to turn in the requirements it con-
s-.eorcd most important. Those were then synthesized by the Office
o t Reports and Estimate 3 in C.I.G. Some of the information required
was of interest to more than one department, end when the depart-
ments agreed, these rciudrcments were put in the paper. If this
paper is approved, the collection representatives from all agencies
will look over. Part II in crier to decide Vieh field re prescnta-
ti;'cs arc best located to obtain the desired i.nfcpration and to at-
tcnpt to allocate these rcaui.rcmcnt to the our.iovo field a;^,cncies.
GF?1TFRAL GHAMBFRLLT did not sec how coordination could be ac-
complished in this way unless the whole problem was solved.
M. EDDY pointed o:'t thet this was mcrcl a ?c:st case, and
:t this paper mi Fht _.L ok 70ieally different a :car fvom now.
MR. EDGAR noted t; it these requirements viouK be reviewed
quarterly.
GENERAL CHAISTRLIPJ asked why V02 items of i_n porten_co, such
as topographic data, were not included.
MR. EDGAR explained that no attempt had been e?adc to include
static or basic intelligence. Also, no scientific intelligence
requirements were included because it vas felt there. was nothing
of interest in this area.
ADMIRAL INGLIS noted that these r::quiremc:n.ts covered only those
that arc currently essential.
GVERAL CHAIII3FRLIII expressed the belief that this was intended
to be an attempt to coordinate the whole collection effort in China.
GENERAL VANDENBERG said that it was impossible to do this until
the agencies had agreed on more basic issues, such as assignment of
Primary responsibilities,. Meanwhile, this was an attempt to move
forward as far as possible.
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AD11IRAL IYGLIS said that he was -Milling to approve the paper
as it stands, but that he was also baffled by the v;ording, ~:Esscn-
tial hlemants of I;ational intelligence ~~ . He thougl.h.t they v;arc all
right, however, as targets for the next trrcc months and as a trial
case.
. : EDDY said that he was t:villirg to approve the Paper as it
stands.
G7714,, SAL VAF-D12TBFRG said t.'-_at they value of this paper v.ould
depend ul:on the effort which all agencies put bcliind it.
G; T'EPP~L CT'AI'B ': LI said that if the three items mentioned were
considered the most important, the 1h'ar Dcportrec'nt v1ould fulfill its
part of the effort as a rriattcr of priority.
G'-?TM~L SAI:"F'ORD understood that this was an cxpcriricnt in
stating current cmph ,sis. 11c considered the paper all right as
it is.
GF'-'?T'RAL CIA Ii3FRLI1T c?nresscd the belief the-,t the tc.::minology
was twisted.
T '.. EDGAR explained t'__ot the first etc had been to study na-
tionel policy toward China, on the theory that intclli-cr.cc should
operate for the policy-makers, to show them z_cthcr the policy was
a success or needed charge. It was felt that the csscr,tial clc-
ments were stctcd too broadly and were there or: broken down into
collcetion requirements which could be turned over to the collce-
tior:. rcprescntstivcs to draft a collection di.recti.ve. r;c realized
that the terns used we c somewhat differ nt froie military isage,
b :t that the four a ,er oy rcprc scrt i tiv a had cgr,_ a d upon the prc s-
ent terminology. C.I.~~. , however, di O not feel strongly about mGl:.-
:.g o alien c it t t ."r",ir.olofly. P1r ^o. ar stcd, end it was
'.g-;rccd, that Es,~c:rtiel Elements of ' : -.-ionnl Irte'.lli.ncncc~ should
b., changed to reed "Current Essentials of ''~tior,.l I~ telli once".
G IIL~J. C~ra:'D'"pcL'_ scic that he :.ould f?:_. not to approve
_.'~.c pap: r until he had seen the collection C _reotivc be cad thereon.
li: did agree tcnt,."civ. _1y t'"~- t th,_ paper v.^s all ri^L,t r's a basis
i'or preporetion of a further collection direutivc.
ADT'IRAL IITGLIS suggcstcd that the meeting of collection rep-
rescntetivcs be hold to break do-.,n th rcrai_crr ;:rts into elloce,-
?ions to c cch ag :r_cy. These could t1.er. be erccc:.d with the I.A.3. ,
arid when cp,rcovcd cai,h a.g..ncy v,ould issue dire ?;-ivcs to acecor..plish
its pert of -Ghc r'issivn.
GFT"I L VA''DEZ:BT:RG asked if farther I.A. 3. meeting would be
necessary if the rcprescr:tetivcs of the. agenci.cs .'recd on the col-
lcction directive:.
ADI IPL L I "GETS did not tl,inlh it would be rcc,-s 1-17 to put the
paper on the ^ger.da, for another meting;, but felt that it could be
checked informally with the I.A.B. members rd issued -s another
C.I.G. paper.
EDDY sugg,cstcd ep ;rovol of the pCY ::I with the understanding
th.r t distribution would be withheld until e.ssi.^,nmc rit of collection
responsibilities v.es .Creed upon.
In answer to 11r. Eddy, 11M. EDGAR said that the directives
,:would be distributed to ambassadors nd theater commanders through
the appropriate departments.
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After further discussion,
TIir Ii T-LLIG-YCE ADVISOnY BOi:RD:
Agreed upon the follo%ing o:mendments to the ~nclosure
to C.I.G. 19:
(1) Chonge "Essentiol Flerients of 11'oti_onel Intelli-
getieo" to read Current Esser-rtiels of I tion.rl Intclli-
gcnce" throughout the p^pcr.
(2) In porn rc h 1, line. 4, ch.ong,c ?,rcquircments"
to recd "objcctivcs~'.
b. Approved the :Tnclosurc to C.I.G. 19, os emended, tcn-
tc.tivcly f;s e for the prep,-rotion of ,, subsecuent collec-
tion directive, i,ith the uiniderstci,dir_. th.t distribution vould
be vithheld i til the collection directive hod been orrced upon.
2. FSTABLIJI-271TT OF A Ch:A''TI L TTT C~I'TRAL
I:'TT:?LLIG 'CL G, ,OLni S'T'D TI TOI1T'1 1? F 0 ST FF
C.I.G. 15
G?T .TtAL V.A. DI ~BL~ G ex?-lvined th .t con eider Lion of this Iprob-
lem: hod been deferred -t JrcviouS and requcstcd
r_y further comments.
1.DI?I-R.,L I_'GLIE se.id thot the r.:--ttc.r h - ( , been discussed in the
J.I.C. It r, s cor.plic- tcd problc.ni, and it s.;-->> h' rd to decide
v,h_cther J.I.C. or I.:,'3. should discus, it furthc ITC- seid that
the ITevy Dc?~':rtr:1".ilt fc cls t:.: t one so1n.-.tioi. is G,.r_,: r ~1 V2rdcnbcrE;'s
Uri?in`rl ]proposel, v:hich r",c.cs much f-rt;icr th:'I1 `.er.lr 'l Inglis'
propos.l in C.I.G. 15. Adi_,irel Innis circuletcd si':etch shoving,
hove the 1 ov- tho?,''.t s:.ncr: l Ve:Td;:r tier 's p_o ;os 1 mi ;ht be I ut
into effect. T'__i i:..volvcd movi,-rc J.I.C. e'_'ld tlc J.I.S. into
the structure of the C,I.G.. It lsc, formed - lirl: bctv.ccn the
J.C.S. c.nd tiic Director of Ccntr-l I::tclli;;crcc ric between J.C.3.
subcommittees :nd the c7.T. _. It )ro-,-)osc- d ch-noc in. the member-
ship of J.T,C. to service oic:rbers only, plug the -'ddi_ ton of the
Director of Centr:nl I::.telli ;cncc -s mcrebe_: ii, the s~?~~.ic m-nncr ^s
or the I.:.'3. With the. ch, ng,c in riembbcrs ii'p it `r' S su,;gcstc,d thn.t
the n:-.II:c be ohem cd to Joint intclligcncc Do-rd (J.I.B.) . Admirr1
Irr.1is ti,_ounht th? t in pence;tir.,c the Dirc::ctor of Ccrtrr l Intclli-
er.ec is rc:ronsible to the '_''.I.... but tlic t tl.-.j_s m:ir ht be reversed
in wertimo to m~?.1:c him responsible to the r.C.5 ITe felt thrt this
nropos^.1 provided o ne ess. ry secaritT- wr:ll ^roai;cR th(. milit"'ry ' c-
tivitics of J.I.C. T) - J.I.S. ricmhcrshir) 'A0 11 :3tny t'-_c s- m:~c except
for the climinetior of the St - tc D L,:,ertruent mc:m'l c _?.v Lirison with
the St - tc Depe.rtmcnt, ho%cver, vcoii1d be continued, but through the
I..-.B. re.ther then the J.I.C.
hDIaF..L IT'GLI6:, cxpleir_ _d or the 1~_ y r, of ir_tclli-
gci:cc cstim tcs the pronoscd J.I.S. v,'ould go bot'-. to O.F.. . end,
for dcp-.rtmcnt-l ir_tclli^c:ncc, to the other dcp rtrcnts. J.I.3.
vvould belong to the J.I.B. , with 1^tc;r.ol comriu?:i.c :tior_s ~;.ith C.T. T.
..R. EDDY thou,,-'ht t.' I- t plight be n ultira? tc solution, but sug-
gcstcd -ii interim step t'"~rt the J.I.S. serve : n ii;t(-llircrce
-dvisory :;tiff to the I.A.B'.
GBiTBpt.L CI:~.,ii3rr,LII sr is -chit he "'d not fi-'lre.d out r~ solution
to the nroblcm yet, but th-t he did h.^vt some fumdemcnt l principles
which he felt should be considered. Fir. st of 11, the Joint Chiefs
of St-.ff must remain o n csscntie'lly milite'.ry oger.cy. Gcncr, non the J.C.S. to
the President. Fi:.t , there should be nothir_n i_: t he ar1'ar_7el:1eft,
as far as the of v,ar plans is concerned, v,bich interpolates
a civilian ager:c;~ b tueen. plannir.F. agencies of the J.C.3., but, as
General Var_denbcr; noted, these I.C.S. c,cr:cies should not be denied
cry intellioer_cc nec::ssa.r to enoblc t-.er.. to perfor.-r.i their: mission.
Fifth, no a r,crcies other ti-an strictly.' of j_tir should i-avc access
to nilitar:; plans. This should be r.iettca:- of j n,l,t on tI- c p art of
military Ugeincies, for s:curity reasons. C-ene.rel Chsr?berlj_n Said
that he Vfc.,s linable to fi,,urc out an observed all
of those fundaiocnttl I)rincj ley. fTc felt, ro`,.Cver, that t crc cs
E,r.cat advantage in Admiral IL: 1is' on _;i..al sstioil. in C.I.G. 15,
since it V,ould at least provide a pieccrical _ roach to tlhc problem.
Gr LR..;L VAI'DT'^?BTPSG said th .t tl.e prinei es enunciated by Gen-
eral Chamberlin V,crc: also tic objectives f0 _i cr. the C.I.G. Vsas
strivin .. Ise noir.tcu out that the C.I.C. T)ropo:3t:l u.:,-ovidcd a via-
-di compartment i'or t,'-.c military. 1'e obscvcd, ;":ov~cver, that
allied to that col:sidcrotio,.:. is tl,_c '.'Lict t t.h.e llar.crs must
h2.vc the boat irt','11crcc and tha It st 'Lhe c-l.star.tly applied
to thC1!1. The irtr,ll; nn:cr:ce a _^cy, t refo~e, , .~.J v.ork. ri ht
alon' v-itl, the lar_nrs. S pceificclly, G.-ric_ol :I clibcr noted
y
T}gat Adrii r~l I.,.. I is' n(-;,,, ~)ro, o s ' 2 StL '7115. C'C, a CtCrti ': t C.":flit it
~l~mpartmient, but pl ~ctd it next ";o the C.T," , 'ere it could dray;
or oil a va, 1.-'~7 irt, ilig~-ncc.
C=-I7172_~L Ci'r:",T'LIi' not' -d cl,a thL rc :c or_c s i' .c"i;s cove rcd
by J.F.C. subcommittees cl; C.T. :_ oul rot v:
J
DT'7r:.'iL IT 'TLIS said 'that S011c could ':J: "..'?.J.t under the .I.'""
ir.d others, such as t:_c Joir_t I:,tclli,l.r._cc ;t^.dT~ ^,.bli I;jrE hoard
rand thc Publications tcvievv Subco: itt;-c, could 1,':: into .;rotor into
C.I.G.
I'?'. T?'DEY suj r.' th .-., i^,. v.as v,illinr to acc:__
n,~~atohos~l as en ultimate obj-:ctj_vc Te hov,cvacr?, that
it vuould bc, possible to proceed it;__ccij.. tcly to li%uidatc. chc. J.I.C,
2)1ihoomr.1tt`-:LS arid tJhcn f'Ollrw. that vit reir-_ 1 Tr!.'',11.5' hrci'7Si1.
hG flJ c_il to justify
the initial 5t.: 1''.'105