SESSION REPORT, REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-65. VIEWER 046

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GRILL FLAME
PROGRAM
CLASSIFIED BY:MSG,DAMI-ISH
DATED- 051630ZJUL78
NOT RELEA EST' -' C _IGN NATIONALS REVIEW ONE i ,` ~_
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-65
1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request for information on an area of intelligence interest.
The viewer previously worked this target; see session D-86.
2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided
as raw intelligence data, and as such, have not been subjected to any
intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of
the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing
information provided the remote viewer.
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REMOTE V IEWINx (RV) SESSION DC-65
#66: This will be a remote viewing session for 0900 hours,
1500 January 1981.
This is a, uh, pre-mission briefing. Today I will be pro-
viding you with geographic coordinates of a point on the
earth that you have been to before and have described
accurately. We are now asking you to return to the same
place and answer a few direct questions. So at the beginning
of the session I will be providing you the geographic
coordinates.
Now I am going to show you a couple of pictures of things
that might be at the target location, and of course your
first question will be to determine are these things at the
location. Now you have accurately described the location
before, but you didn't say whether these things were there
SG1A
So what we want to do is when I give you the coordinates,
want you to go to the area that you went to before with these
coordinates and look around and see whether or not these
antennas are there or not......
#46: Hm... All right.
#66: Okay. You've seen these pictures now.
#46: Yeah, I remember seeing.
#66: And I will be providing you the coordinates then at the
start of the session. Do you have any questions at all?
#46: No.
#66: Okay, fine. I'll see you in a few minutes then when the
session begins.
#46: So, I can either describe one of the three, or two of the
three or three of the three. You want-
#66: I don't- I don't know-
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SG1A
#46: You just want me to physically describe-
#66: Yes, physically describe what you see. You may say, oh, it's
just like this or-
#46: Yeah...
#6 6:
#46: Yeah.
#66: So we are, of course, depending on you to tell us which kind.
#46: Yeah. I was trying to differentiate between these two...
#66: Well, you may see these pictures afterwards, if you like.
Just physically describe what you see there, but these I'm
showing you ahead of time-
#46: Yeah.
166: -to say that you might or you might not find these at the
target. Then I will have some specific questions about the
target as well. Okay. Any other questions?
#46: No.
#66: Okay.
SG1 B
Relax and concentrate now. Relax and concentrate solely and
completely on the target, solely and completely, clearly in
perfect focus. Focus now in present time at the target and
and describe your perceptions to me.
146: I, I gotta get here, the, uh, uh...the overview of, uh....
of the area when you called the coordinate.
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#66: Describe it to me.
#46: Sort of a.....the, uh, a rise or a hill in the upper portion
of the grid...and of...and of the hill in the, uh, left center
portion, left lower portion of the grid. And in between
that is all trees and vegetation, to the right of the box from
top to left in a "U" type configuration. Almost appears to
be a ribbon of water and then beyond to the right, more
vegetation....
Now.when you said focus there I landed on the, on the beach...
sandy beach...next to the water and opposite the water is a
very...dense, almost jungle atmosphere there .... (mumbling)
to the left.
1/66: And now describe more specifically the target at the coor-
dinate.
#46: (Mumbling)... I've got to go on from where I, from wherever.
This, uh.... it's round ............... It's, uh.... it's inland
(mumbling)......about a half mile or mile......... ..and what
+10 I really see is........... it's a circular type antenna, it's
like one of these, uh, old fashioned.... electric heaters or
something in the center and the spokes going out...is the
picture that stays, trying to...define it.
No, that's, that's...that would be the uppermost one...
And underneath that, then you have a bunch of spokes going
out...in every which direction........ Damn. There's
something about a...rectangular plate with white metal with
holes in it....
#66: It's important for me to know your relative position of
observation as you describe this...
+11 #46: I'm between those two hills about a mile within the shoreline
from- what the hell is that- east to west.... On your grid
it would be about......3/4 of the way to the right from west
to east and if you came down about halfway you could put a
dot there and that's where I am.
#66: And as you describe what you say SG1A
#46: Yeah.
#66: -what is your position of observation as you-
#46: It's weird because it's just going up on a tall pole....and
there's just those three things I've described with it...
were attached to the pole. So I'm kinda looking up at it,
really.
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+13 #66: You perceive yourself to be looking up at the pole. Review
for me the three things you've said.
#46: The top one that looks like a...like an old, uh, electric
heater, you know, it's got a...it's circular shaped. It's
got a center piece and it's g,ot spokes growing out.
#66: Describe the number of spokes.
#46: Oh, god.
It's either 11 or 12. Between 10 and 12, I keep losing track.
#66: All right... Continue with your review of the three items...
#46: And below that one...this is with the one that, uh......
with the, uh, spokes going out and..... various directions.....
I think the, uh...the longest spokes (mumbling)... at about
+16 90 degrees from the care, about...2 feet. But they, they're
not all 2 feet because as they come close to the center of
the spokes they're smaller. If you look at it on a plane
it looks somewhat rectangular........
#66: Move your position of observation to 100 feet directly over,
directly over this and describe for me.
+18 #46: There's big bows there...right down to the ground, and there's
the...what would look like a...like a...like a shed or some-
thing, it seems to be the principal thing........
#66: Now as you move above the target, move above this that you've
been describing-
#46: Yeah, it's from up looking down (mumbling).
#66: Are there other similar configurations in the area? Or is
this one the sole configuration in the area?
#46: As soon as you said that there were...there were like two
little miniature towers that shoulda been placed on, right
on the border of your grid, uh, on both hills..... north and
south.
#66: Review this for me again.
#46: Well, as soon as you mentioned that there was a very quick
impression like of miniature towers that fit in within the
perspective of the overview of the grid, which located...
north and south on those two hills. I was trying right after
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#66: All right.
#46: Indicated the coordinates.
SG1A 1/6 6: Now ask yourself again, in this what you describe to be a
#46: Yeah.
SG1A #66:
#46: No.... third one was the, uh ..............the third one
looked. like one of these ..............it's difficult to
+21 describe. It's like a bull horn type with the ends up with
a rectangle in the very, very, very silvery..... silvery
sheet with holes in it.
#66: All right. Do I understand that you are of the opinion
there are three antennas?
#46: Yeah, all on one damn pole.
#66: Oh, I understand. You have three antennas all on one pole.
#46: Yeah.
#66: Okay, are there any other...in a grander scale, having all
these antennas hooked to the singular pole, and calling this
one configuration, on that grander scale, are there other
similar configurations in the immediate area?........
#46: I don't see any.
#66: Okay. Now turn your perspectives from describing the con-
+23 figurations to personnel. Are there personnel in this area?
#46: Yeah ............... In......there's a, kind of a primitive
type road...comes from the beach to the site, and it's, it's
an open truck that is used to transport the personnel. It
looks like a...it's not a duce and a half, like a 3/4 ton.
And the impression is...that there are about three people
in that shed.
#66: Okay. Focus now solely and completely, move inside the shed.
#46: Yes, yeah.
+25 #66: Describe the people to me.
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#46: There's a (mumbling) there should be all military, one civi-
lian ...he's there in a white shirt.
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#66: What is it you experience that makes you say-
#46: Well, he stands out, there should be...
#66: And what is your experience that causes you to say that they
should be all military?
#46: Because there's a couple guys in fatigues.
#66: Okay. Tell me about these guys in fatigues. What kind of
uniforms are they?
#46: Like jungle fatigues and there's something about a red beret
with a black border ...... and this other guy is some kind of
technician... He's a short guy, about 5' 4", small build,
mustache... I got the impression he's Spanish origin, he
speaks Spanish rather well.
#66: Tell me the experience that you have that makes you say he's
Spanish origin. He speaks-
#46: Just ...(mumbling)...the whole thing has got that flavor.
He's just...Latin, very black, dark, wavy hair, receding at
the temples, with a mustache.
#66: Am I understanding you to say that his physical appearance
looks Latin?
#46: No, but there's a, there's a, the whole atmosphere is just
Spanish something.
#66: All right.
#46: Maybe Cuban.
#66: Now, turning your attention now to the gestalt of the area-
#46: Yeah.
#66: The people-
#46: Huh?
#66: The people, this shed, the antennas-
#46: Yeah.
+29 #66: Describe their mission to me. Ask yourself as you perceive
the target area, the shed, the people, the antennas. Move
to that point and describe for me the mission of the people
in the shed.
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#46: Well, two military strictly maintenance people... The
civilian is a tech person. Something about handling and
manipulating that thing... .about direction. ? .1 can't pin-
point it........ Finding something about direction... maybe
guidance, I don't know, I...it just has to do with directions
and azimuths.
#66: Okay. Explain- it might help, now- explain for me the exper-
ience you have that causes you to-
#46: Cause his main function is the, is just that, winding through
his technical know-how...that apparatus outside, which has
something to do with alignment and direction.
#66: All right. That's good. That's very good. Let us examine
the problem from a different perspective now.... You have
accessed and described the target here from the perspective
of the people there. Ask yourself now, when he is successful
in doing what he does, what does he report to his superiors?
Ask yourself, what does he report to his superiors?
#46: Oh, this is...... tough to express. What he essentially reports
+33 is that it can be done this way...and it has something to do
with...
There's something I wanted to say (mumbling)... Has some-
thing to do with relay and...(mumbling)....... where he kinda
takes over where somebody left off, or he initiates something
that somebody else takes over from some other side. He
spends his entire time doing these things. That's the best
I can describe it.
#66: All right. You have addressed the question what does he
report to his superiors?
#46: Yeah, that it can be done this way is successful in doing this.
#66: Okay.
#46: Or that he was picking up from somebody else at a given
point.
#66: Now let's turn and rephrase the question. For this you will
have to broaden your horizons and deal very, very precisely
with the problem at hand. Ask yourself now what is it his
superiors want to know?
#46: His superiors... like to know more...realize that if he can,
if he is successful under these circumstances...then he can
be successful... in reality. He can be successful in doing what
he's doing, it can be used to be successful... what they're
trying to achieve... It has to do with the guidance system...
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#66: And what is it they want to guide?
#46: I don't know.
#66: I didn't understand you .......
#46: I said I don't know.
#66: Okay..... Return your perspective now to the apparatus
itself that you found at the target, outside looking now at
the apparatus, back away from it so that you may see it in
it's entirety and that you aren't so close that you're con-
fused by it, so that you may see it in it's entirety, clearly,
in perfect focus, every element of it... Remember.
#46: All right.
#66: I have no further questions about the target. If there's
anything you'd like to say before leaving the target area,
please do so now......
#46: No I, I'm all through.
#66: Okay. You have no further comments?
#46: No.
#66: Return your focus now to me here in the room. Move your arms,
move your legs, take a few deep breaths, and prepare to draw
that which you have perceived.
#46: Okay, uh....this is the, the, uh, sketch #1 is a representa-
tion of the grid, uh, after you described the target area.
And what comes up is a scenario. What I had was a grid with
a...hill #1 and 2, located north and south respectively. Not
very high hills, nothing to be called mountains, but they're
definitely something above ground, maybe 30, 40 feet, natural,
man-made, I mean natural hills, with a great deal of vege-
tation, uh, and heavy foliage that would be predominant in a
very warm, humid type atmosphere.
And to the right of the grid was a ribbon which I perceived
as being water. And to the right of that more vegetation and
flat land. Where I ended up was right next to the water on
the sand, uh, looking towards the "X", okay, from east to west-
#66: Okay.
#46: And that's where I ended up. So much for sketch 1.
The antenna site that I, uh, eventually tried to pinpoint
within this scenario appeared to be about a mile, a mile and
a half inland, into the jungle from the water's edge. Okay?
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#66: Okay.
#46: And it's marked by an "X".
#66: Then when I asked you to focus more closely on the target
from this overview perspective then you got down to what?
#46: Yeah, yeah, then the, uh, the picture of the, uh, circular
parabolic antenna type, which was, uh, presented to me like
an old, uh, an old fashioned electric heater that I've seen
in the olden times. And, uh, it was, uh, circular parabolic
with spokes. And I tried to count 'em but I kept messing up.
And I think there are about 10, 10 or 12 spokes that meet
to the center in a hub there.
Uh...what more can I add on the thing? It did have a back
to it. The spokes were somewhat elevated from the edge of,
uh, the antenna and going towards the center. Now that may
be the heater syndrome, I don't know.
#66: Okay.
#46: Okay? And, after I focused on that, this was attached to a
pole, I followed the pole down about 3 or 4 feet down, maybe
more, maybe 6... Where's this, another type antenna which I
can only define as being a porcupine type antenna which I've
so labeled.
The, uh, length of the principle elements appeared to be
about 2 feet wide. And as, if you looked at it.on a plain it
looked rectangular. But there was, there was, uh, it was not
a rectangular apparatus. The elements shot in various direc-
tions, uh, with the lengths of the spokes diminishing as they
approach the center.
#66: Which gives it the appearance of a rectangle, as seen from
a flat plain.
#46: Yeah, yeah. From a flat plain, okay. And after I concentrated
on that for a while I went farther below and found this smal-
ler type apparatus, which could be an antenna which I don't
recognize, but it resembled and outdoor horn or a speaker,
which I've so labeled.
And the fascinating thing about that one, or what caught my
attention was a very, uh, silvery reflective sheet, which,
uh, which was, uh, located...at the very edge of the speaker
or facing the speaker. It was, uh, it was placed right there.
In other words it wasn't receded, it was, it was flat with the,
with the outer edge of the so called bull horn. And, uh, with
an added feature that this silvery type of material has sev-
eral perforations in it.
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#66: All right, you feel that-
#46: Almost looked like a cheesecake.
#66: Were they purposeful?
#46: Yeah, purpose.
#66: It was, you feel that it was designed like that?
#46: Yes, it was designed like that.
#66: Okay.
#46: Definitely.
#66: Okay. Now let my try to clear up one point here.
#46: Go ahead.
#66: As you were describing this, of course, I was unable to per-
ceive your description and I became somewhat confused as to
what you were talking about here. This that you've drawn
does not resemble the antennas that I showed you before the
session...
#66: And, uh, I had, I asked you are there any more of these, the
antennas here, and you said well, yeah, there's these three.
And I didn't understand that you were talking about three
things on the same pole.
#66: So what you find then is this pole apparatus with these
three what we might call elements on the pole.
#46: Yeah.
#66: Did you see anything like the pictures that I showed you?
#46: No.
#66: Okay.
#46: My attention was immediately on this and it would not leave
it.. And I realized that it did not resemble what you had
showed me initially. And I don't remember seeing those, but
that's beside the point. So I didn't fight it, I just let
it come, and I figured, uh, I'll describe what I see.
#66: Okay, now-
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#46: Rather than try and make it, uh, you know. I just simply
did not see the other, the other three. Now I may have been
off target or-
#66: All right. That's fine.
#46: -whatever have you but I have to follow instinct.
#66: You did say, however, when I asked if there were any others
that were maybe associated with this antenna you did say that
you saw, uh, something else.
#46: Yeah, on sketch #1, on both hills, the one labeled 1 in the
north and the one labeled 2 in the south, uh, are somewhat
related to, uh, the ones that we, the one that I saw, uh,
which is represented by an "X" on sketch 1, in some relay
fashion.
#66: Okay, you feel that there are, is something in the hills-
#46: Yeah.
#66: -adjacent hills that relates to this antenna somehow.
#46: Yeah, yeah. They're all interrelated.
#66: Okay, fine. Let's go on then with your drawings.
#46: And that's, that's about it I was drawing. Oh, sketch #3 is
an overview, not a very high overview, few hundred feet, maybe
300 feet, somethin' like that, maybe 400, of, uh, the site.
What it is is a, it's a high- hardly perceptible clearing, in
fact it's not of a, it's not quite as delineated as I have
drawn it here. But, uh, the pole is more a private little
circle in the "X" and right next to it is the maintenance
and directional facility where I saw these three people.
#66: Okay.
#46: And I got the impression that they were trucked in from the
water's edge by a crude road about a mile or so long through
this jungle area. But the entire area is just heavy green,
damp foliage.
#66: Okay.
#46: Okay?
#66: Now, addressing these people you said you saw some people
in there and you felt they should be military. And there was
one that stood out because he had a white shirt on and you-
#46: Yeah. Fie not only stood out by way of, because of his civi-
lian attire as opposed to the other two, only because I got
the impression that he was some type of technician, whereas
the other two were simply maintenance people, and he was
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#46: busily at work throughout the entire time, dialing and mani-
pulating, uh, this antenna from his control point in. the
shack or the shed or whatever you want to call that building.
#66: Okay. And then a little bit about his job and. what he per-
ceives he has to do in his job, you related something about
asthmus and directions-
#46: Yeah, that was, uh, that was the best I could describe it.
#66: And from a different perspective then what he has to report
to his bosses, and your answer to that was something about,
uh, it can be done?
#46: Yes, if he can do it now then when the need arises there's
no doubt in anybody's mind that he can, that it'll be done.
#66: Okay.
#46: Whatever that- it was once removed from a reality that they
were pursuing.
#66: Would you call that a test maybe?
#46: Yeah, something like a test, but it, but it also had a relay
function. There was a dual function.
#66: Okay.
#46: That's where I-
#66: And then to the final question- what is it that his bosses
want to know?
#46: I forget what the hell I said, 'cause that was tough.
#66: You seemed to have something about guidance. You kept-
#46: That, yeah, that was confused with the purpose and the results
of what was needed to assure the bosses this could be done,
which is all related to the antenna.
#66: Okay.
#46: And these things gyrating and, but it has definitely some-
thing to do with determining an azimuth and a line for gui-
dance purposes. And another function is relay purposes,
which may or may not be so closely related with the azimuth.
#66: Okay.
#46: And that was difficult to, to put across.
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#66: Okay, here-
#46: And those were all just impressions.
##66: Okay, I don't have any further questions. Is there anything
you'd like to add about the session?
#46: No.
#66: Okay.
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TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-65
1. (S/NOFORN) Prior to the session the viewer was told that he would
be given a geographic coordinate of a target area which he had'"viewed"
SG1A previously. He was shown the and told that
he was to determine if there the target.
(See pre-mission brief in transcript for details.
2. (S/NOFORN) At the start of vie er was provided the
following geographic coordinate: SG1A
3. (S/NOFORN) During the session the interviewer asked the viewer to
elaborate as portions of his descriptions which seemed relevant or need
further explanation.
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