SESSION REPORT, REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-33. VIEWER 031.

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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-33
SG1A
1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewi ion conducted in
SG1A compliance with a request for information concerning
2. (S/NOFCR N) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided as
raw intelligence data, and, as such, have not been subjected to intermediate
analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information
provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote. Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing infor-
mation provided the remote viewer.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-33
#66: This will be a remote viewing session for 1100 hours,
5 December 1980.
Relax and concentrate now. Relax. Focus your attention
solely and completely on the target. SG1A
Solely and completely on the in the
picture I have shown you. Move now as you focus your atten-
tion, move now through space and time to 0800 hours today at
the target, 0800 hours today at the target. And move now
more particularly in the building in
the photograph I have shown you, and describe the room for
me as of 8:00, 0800 hours this morning.
Okay............ Okay....... Okay ........... a chair...table....
things alongside the machine...that block it off...
But, uh...something on the wall that, uh....might sit as
though the machine is in a little cubbyhole. Some large,
.+07 uh, wall unit like cabinet...... on the corner by the teletype
...or the typewriter, something....
#66: Position yourself now so that you can see all of SG1A
Position ourslef outside of space and time so that you can
SG1A observe as I direct you...and describe your rela-
tive position of observation to me so that I may understand
your descriptions .................
#31: How I did it...imagined...a stairwell there-inside the
room... standing on carpet...I can see all things around me.
+10 #66: All right. Maintain this position throughout the session.
Maintain this position until instructed to move. Observe
now the time window 0800 hours, 0800 hours, 5 December and SG1A
describe briefly what is going on in
PAUSE
#31: I see no physical presence.
#66: All right.
#31: I have ....... I'm scanning............
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#31: Feel of.one (mumbling)...entering the door but does not
remain in this room, moves...to the...side through a door
frame .............. I'm scanning...
#66: Stop for a moment and explain method of scan.
#31: Um........ At ceiling heighth.....
#66: Are you scanning-
#31: Clockwise direction around...
#66: You're- I understand you to be scanning space intervals and
not time intervals?
#31: Yes.
#66: At space intervals then, at 8:00, we have one person entering.
Continue.
#31: On the third time around the room I, uh...cabinet feeling is,
uh, the doors have been opened on that like...cabinet of
some kind. Possibly someone has...I had the feeling earlier
that someone came in through the side door...walked across the
open space. Now I see the cabinet doors open, as though some-
one has retrieved something and has exited the room again like...
#66: Okay, move back an interval and describe this individual .....
#31: White, light shirt, with the rolled up sleeves at the cuffs.
A string tie...and darkish color slacks...........
He works his desk, he has a desk in the neighboring room
connected to this and he has,uh...free access into this
room, and:he, uh...
#66: Provide pol-
+15 #66: Provide police-like description of individual.
#31: He is....dark black and...greasy hair, parted left side.
I'm getting a feeling of a thin youthful face and a...thin
body like a, uh...thin hand, like the veins stand out on
the back. Like thin..... I was looking, scanning from eyes
down andhi s...he's got a moustache on....sort of a droopy
moustache... full and droopy, not trimmed up nice, sort of
troop- droopy.
#66: All right.
#31: Bushy, but droopy, And, uh...I'm getting a feeling that...
of a suit, he wore a suit in. I'm getting this crazy white
line on a dark suit like...like he was wearing a, uh, would
be wearing a, uh, wide lapeled, uh, cowboy type suit today...
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#66: Okay.
#31: With white, uh, or some sort of...light offset stitching.
#66: Okay. Regain now your position of observation, at that point
in the room from which you can see all of the room at once.
That point that you can see all of and prepare
for instructions.
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#31:
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#66:
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#31:
#66:
#31:
+28 it's as though there's something wrong with it, because I
got a feeling of...three people coming in through the side
door and going over and talking about the machine or something
on the machine, and then ...then the two people coming in
after the three left. There's something the matter with the
Okay. Now as you observe the whole room in front of you
we are going to be walking through the room in time. We are
going to be walking through the room in time, looking at one
hour time windows. As we do this I am interested in signifi-
cant events, comings and goings of individuals, but we must
be brief because we have to walk continuously through time.
Now as we proceed from this point forward I want you to look
at the time window of one hour, time window of one hour from
8:00 to 9:00. When you are ready to move to another time
window inform me.
Uh, da, move from, guy comes in again another...individual
comes in the front door goes to...the left side of the room...
corner......... He's sitting at a, uh...table in the left
corner. Momentarily... fleetingly ...... ....some sort of a box
thing in the corner, inside front door right that I, through-
out this.thing I've been, um wanting to talk about, wanting
to look at. It's ...like a room inside the room in the corner.
Let me clear and take another run at it quick.... I hear
the bell....quick shot the bell and, um, two men standing
at the bell...at the typewriter and I think it's the two that
are here now are over watching. something come in...on the
typewriter, like they're watching it for printout.... See
one of 'em rip it off then they go bavk about their business...
I keep seeing. .. .this is weird, I keep ...............okay.
Move now to the time window 9 to 10, 9:00 in the morning to
10:00 in the morning.
PAUSE
I'm not gettin' anything.
Nave now to the time window 1000 to 1100, 1000 to 1100,
5 December.
There's a.....serious concern about this teletype machine
here. There is some concern about it. It's very, very...
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#31: machine or...something is going on about the machine. And
the two that go over there, I didn't hear it ring, it's
like they're going in and looking at it, like sort of puzzle-
ment.........
I'm sitting here on top of this machine and...the door opened
and the hall door opened and the...another two men walked in
That's about it.
+30 #66: Okay. Move now to the time period 1100 to 1200, 1100 to
1200........
#31: G of a feeling there are many more people in here now. I saw
them all along the left wall, like....a crowd almost along
the left wall....as though they're looking at a map or some-
thing, or something that has been...laid out on a desk. I
got the idea like people looking over other people's shoulders
and standing on tippy toe to see over. I can't tell what
they're looking down at or looking at the wall at......like
somethin's been laid out on the table...on a table or some-
thing to see..... Okay, about...about 5 or 7 people...
+33 #66: All right, move now to the time period, move now to the time
period 1200 to 1300, move now to the time period 1200 to 1300.
#31: Some guy standing here...a big presence... almost as though
he's a guard, but no one else is here, but there's this...
single guy standing in the room as though he's...a guard or
+34 watching, caretaking or something.... almost as though he's a...
a uniform of some kind. I, militantant...militant...stand-
ing with his back to the door...like he's a...back to the
side door, like he's... just... like a...I get a police type
feeling, like a police or a, some sort of a guards type per-
son that's been brought in to do something...isolate an area
here, to watch and to...you know.... I don't know that he's
in a uniform, but he's a uniform type of personality...feel-
ing of like discipline and such.
+36 #66: Move now to the time period 1300 to 1400. Move now to the
time period 1300 to 1400.
#31: Oh, uh, it's funny, I don't know what I'm doin' here, but...
I had the feeling of this guy walking. over to the corner
there where the thing is and that there.was someone else there.
And that this thing was maybe, uh, it was like a box open
and like all sorts of stuff exposed like some sort of repair
work or something-silly like that and that this corner of
the room where the typewriter is was a...and this guy was like
leaning over watching the guy on the typewriter... and this
box in under the typewriter the desk was.open.and all sorts of
stuff was there. The room had suddenly been.very cluttered
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#31: and...and he was like leaning over looking at it and talking
to the guy who was on his knees who was like looking up over
his shoulder at him like explaining something or something
like that.
#66: All right.
#31: That was very, very quick, as soon as I started the series.
+3g #66: Move now to the time period, move now to the time period
1400 to 1500 ..............
#31: The guy is still back in, he's back in his place....and
feeling this other guy is like just finishing up. I'm get-
ting the idea of cabinets being locked and like tools being
picked up and hands being wiped off.
+39 #66: Okay. Move now to the time period 1500 to 1600. Move now
to the time period 1500 to 1600 today .................
+40 #31: I'm startin' to come out of this...
#66: Okay. Just take a minute and relax and concentrate. Just
take a minute to relax and concentrate.........
#31: Well, I, uh...had a feeling of the bell ringing and maybe
some testing before this guy left .... but that the guy is
essentially all done...and is preparing to leave...... bell
ringing.
#66: Okay.
#31: I've gotta break.
#66: Okay, fine. Just take about two seconds now to remember
everything that you've seen so that you may talk about it
while you're drawing. Just take a,moment.to reflect on.every-
thing you've experienced. Now let's prepare to. draw that
which you'have seen.
#31: There's one thing I wanna comment on before I come out and
that is that...early in the session I was...I, uh, don't know
what it is about the little square box in the other. corner of
the room but it was though there was billowing smoke or some-
thing coming out of this box. Like an electrical short or
a teapot, steam or smoke and I couldn't figure it out. I
didn't want to make it into anything else but...I don't know
if they do their own cookin' or whatever, if there's some-
thin' in there but... something was like rising steam or
smoke, a light amount.
#66: Okay, let's draw then the perceptions that you've had.
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#66: Okay, now, uh, we've taken and drawn the, uh, room as you
have seen it and then we made several copies of that so that
we could go back and enter data on each particular time win-
dow that we looked at. So why don't you tell me about what
you have here.
#31: Okay, sketch one is 8 to 9 o'clock... Just starting work
type of flavor. Two people come in. Some guy comes in, goes
into the neighboring room, little bit later a second person
comes in, second man comes in and goes over and sits in the
corner of the target room.
Uh...somewhere towards the latter time frame of this, uh,
event period I had a...I had this fleeting, flashing type of
impression of some sort of small billowing smoke, or steam...
rising up in some open space and then billowing out in under
some sort of a chrome or stainless stell ledge. And I sort
of...I was afraid to pay too much attention to that because
of the concepts of fire and hazard and everything else. I
didn't want to get into that heavy analytical overlay.
At- this was right early in the morning, 8 to 9 o'clock. It
was as though there was some minor electrical short that put
out a quantity of light smoke, or that there was a teapot
boiling, a tea kettle boiling and it was putting out steam.
And I had the feeling that this was down in the lower right
corner of sketch one. There was some sort of a booth like
thing or box like thing in there where this was happening.
This feeling occured to me several times during the course of
events- several times during the morning hours of the day,
and I had to throw them away 'cause I was afraid that they
would lead to some catastrophe type scenario instead of what
was really going on. But it started at 8:00 in the morning,
like I would flash to it again like at the 10:00 series I
saw it again, at at the. 11:00 series Isaw it again, as though
I was, as though it might be important and pertinent, but not
necessarily occuring each one of those times, I mighta been
mopping back to the morning.
#66: Okay, could you describe for me the two gentlemen?
#31: I can't describe man #2. 1 can describe man #1.
#66: And he's the one you described previously?
#31: Yeah. I got a look at him, he's...I thought he was the guy
that- I worked an earlier session on this in which there was
somebody in there that I couldn't figure out if it was a guy
or a girl.
#31: I think he was that guy, because he had the....you know, he
had, I sort of felt familiar with him. Uh...and it was like,
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#31: oh, you know, well, I guess the, I guess the person was a guy
after all, went through my mind. I sort of associated this
guy with having to work on the teletypewriter or whatever it
is.and being permanently assigned and concerned with this
room, wearing some sort of a cowboy suit jacket. You know,
the out jacket with the fancy pockets and everything, and a
rope tie, or string tie. But he takes that off when he's at
work, and. he was wearing, he was in a white type shirt with
his shirt sleeves rolled up, uh, inside.
And the other guy is man number 2, uh, and man number 1 is
younger, youngish, 26, 27, youngish, skinny, veins stand out
on the back of his hands, type of slender. Uh, the guy, man
number 2 is older like 35, a little more mature and he's not...
how would I describe- he's not that concerned with the mundane
nitty gritty of the office operation.' He's more concerned
with what comes in and reading it and massaging it like an
action officer. Whereas the other, the younger fellow is m-
like he's got other duties as assigned. Man number 2 was
warng a dark suit as well, but that's...
#66: Let's go on then to drawing #2.
#31: Okay, drawing 2 concerns the 10 to 11:00 bracket. I didn't
have anything out of the 9 to 10 bracket. The main function
of action here is that the, I have the feeling of the bell
ringing and the teletypewriter functioning. Man #2 going over
and checking it out. Then a short while later, 15 or 20 min-
utes:later maybe, then there is. something disfunctional, they
go over and they're watching this teletypewriter disfunction.
There's no bell ringing, it was like the bell rang first and
it worked. Twenty minutes later they're all clustered around
there because it doesn't.work. Uh...I was, they, they were
.there, these are like the local party in the room. Their
concern, and it's as though they communicated with someone
else and then these two other concerned people came into the
room, and the four. of them stood around and looked at this
typewriter- teletypewriter.
#66: Describe these other two people that come into the room.
#31: They came in off the hallway door. They were both wearing
business suits. It was like the big boss man had come in.
What in the hell's the matter with it now, type of a thing,
you know. And some second in command maybe, came in...to
prove to themselves that what these two guys had told them
was true. You know how they oversupe-.people oversupervise?
Uh...they were dressed in suits, and they were of higher
prestigious position. And. other than that I don't have a
physical description of them individually. Oh-
#66: Okay.
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#31: They came in rapidly and aggressively, like they owned the
place. You know, they didn't knock on the door faintly.
Barged right in, it was a very sudden action..
#66: Okay, let's go on to number three then.
#31: Three is 11 to 1200 hours. The- during that time frame it's
as though the teletypewriter or whatever the heck it is is
still disfunctional but they've decided what to do about it,
and what's going to be done about it is being done now.
So it's out of everybody's chief concern and rather- man #1
and man #2 are over on the left side of the room mixed and
intermingled with a larger group of people, 5 to 7., who. are
discussing which does not pertain to the tele-, it's impor-
tant, but it does pertain to this teletypewriter thing. And
it's, the thing that they're pointing and discussing they're
looking over each others shoulders, they're like, they're all
crowded around something important that has to do with busi-
ness as opposed to support functions.
Uh....it's like a, uh...at first I thought that they were like
looking at something that came.out of the teletypewriter that
proved the disfunction. But later on as I sat around and
watched them I couldn't figure out, but it didn't seem that
.that was their main concern. It was as though some important
report had come in or some important... thing pertaining to
their operations had come in and they were, they were all
standing around sort of happy and, uh, enthusiastically talk-
ing and. discussing it amongst themselves in an informal manner.
#66: Describe these 7 people for me...
#31: You gotta be shitting me... As I said there was one and,
there's #1 and #2. Man #1 and man #2. The feeling is that
the big boss man was there and that the second level boss man
was there but then there were like three other people who were
from other offices. in that complex. They were elsewhere in
this. complex, had been summoned down. I can't give you an
individual description of them.
#66: Okay. Let's go on then to the next drawing....
#31: Four...is from 12 to 1. Everybody is out of. the room, except...
I qualify that statement. The dominant feature in the room
is one guy who comes on like a cop. He comes'on like an .
L.A.P.D. cop. He's the strong man, you know, he's the heavy,
everybody's got one, you know, that-type of thing,:efficious,
suspicious, knows his business... And what he's doing, he's
alone in the. room and he's guarding the room. He's like pro-
.tecting.the room, and all the. other people. have left. And
I'm...have to remember all this while I'm fighting this over-
lay of a big fire and the pos- you know, from this lousy lit-
tle bit of smoke billowing up...
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#31: And in the, it's interesting to note that in the 12 to 1300
bracket he's guarding this room, but I did not see anyone
else in the room. I'm not saying that there was no one else
there. .1 had the definite feeling that number- man #1 and
man #2 had vacated the premises, they were away because of
some reason. And that this third big, heavy, uh, strong, uh,
middle-aged, round-faced, partially balding, 6 foot...6' 1"
to 6' 2"...100 and, uh, 220 to 230 pound guy was like at par-
ade rest as.a security guard is supposed to be. You know,
that's probably symbolic, but he was like at parade rest on
the left side center of the room. Uh, very dominant presence,
like he was right there.
I didn't see anything else 'cause he was, he was occupying
all my interest at that time. He reminded me of the anomoly,
like in the James Bond movie of,.uh, oh, it's an old James
Bond movie. You know the guy that threw his hat, and his hat
was made out of steel and it was lethal. It was some sidekick
of the bad guy in a James Bond movie. Remember that movie?
I can't remember his name. Anyway, the anomoly of that type
of a guy dressed in a suit just doesn't come across. Well,
this is the type of anomoly of this guy. He did not look
like he belonged in a suit. He looked like he belonged in a
wrestler's toga or boxing shorts. Okay, didn't belong in a
suit. So much for sketch four.
#66: Okay, let's go on then to the next drawing.
#31: The next drawing is 13 to 1400 hours. Same room. In this
drawing is the first time I discovered that there was some-
one else in the room. And the action that occured is the
guy who's the guard, I suddenly found out who he was guarding.
He was guarding some guy much smaller, still a strong big
guy, repairman type, who was over in the corner mutzing
around with the bottom, the cabinet upon which the typewriter
sits. Like he had this cabinet open.and I could see circuitry
and it was dark and gloomy in there and very mechanical and
technical. Hanging out little tool boxes and things scattered
on the floor...circuit boards and that type of thing scattered.
That guy was like kneeling as he's working and he has his
stuff spread out on the floor there. And this guard type is
over like with his hands behind his back, and he's'leaning
over the guy and he's.talking with him. But he's not talking
with him like, oh,.what's that? He's talking with him to make
sure. that this guy is doing everything right and isn't, you
know, he's just using the conversation as a disguise for pay-
ing attention to what the man is actually- and he's very,
really rather conscientous about it, you know, about watching
what the guy does.
Oh, at this time, you know, I became aware of a scenario and
I'm familiar with the project and everything else. At this
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#31: time I had the definite feeling that the guy. kneeling on the
floor doing his repair work was a friendly type. He was a
good guy who had managed to sneak in there under the guise
because someone had caused a disfunction in the teletype so
that this man in the guise of a repairman, but he is really
a repairman, you know, he's a legitimate repairman, could get
into the area...and do something with the teletype apparatus
that would allow us to read it, to find out more about what
was going on. And he.was doing this under the very close
scrutiny of this guard guy. But that he was successful. I
had the feeling that he gets out of there okay, and that he
ends up having repaired the teletype, but also having rigged
it so that it's a successful mission...
#66: Okay, let's go on to the next drawing now.
#31: Okay, uh, that's 14 to 1500. In,.the, I think in the early
part of that time bracket the repairman is still there. He
straddles over, and I, let me mention that I also think that
he, in sketch four when I have the guard there all by himself,
I think that maybe the repairman is also there, I just didn't
see him. So it like straddles three time frames. But I didn't
just pick up him.
Anyway, I think that in sketch 6 that the guard is still there,
but that he's finishing up...there's some casual conversation
going on. He's like wiping his hands, and he's put his tools
away and everything.. And a boss type person ...I, the boss,
the guy who would be most critically concerned about the.
typew- ty- type- teletype, typewriter.-functioning comes in,
and they like run some tests. I don't know how they did it.
#66: Okay, uh-
#31: But the bell starts. ringing again and it's like they had a
preprogrammed traffic that somebody sent to make. sure that
it worked.
#66: Okay, this is in the, uh-
#31: This is in sketch 7.
#66: Okay...
#31: Yeah, sketch 6 and 7...no, okay, I guess I do str- I.don't
straddle the typewriter. The, uh...in sketch 6 the guy is
finishing up and everything and then in sketch 7 at the early
part of the hour the feeling is that this third boss man came
in and that.the repairman said,. see, it works, and they ran
some sort of. little test to prove that-the repairman had done
everything right, and that it really was going to last for a
long time, and that everything was repaired.
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#31: So that's actually sketch 7. I don't know where the boss
man came from. You know,. which of the two doors he came from.
He was a higher person. He was not the guy in shirt sleeves
that I had seen earlier.
#66: Okay, then.
#31: Sketch 8 is, uh, just a ground level view of the scenario in
sketch 5.
#66: Okay. Do you have any closing comments that you'd like to
make about the session?
#31: Well, ....... **# ... Well, no, I,other than reiteration of
this feeling that started to come over me towards the latter
half or third of the session about how this repairman was one
of our guys, and that, uh...he was doing, he was repairing
a legitimate damage that had been caused exter-, by a, exter-
iorly, on purpose, to get him in there to repair it, so that
we could. like tap into what was happening or something.
That's about all I have to add.
#66: Okay.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-33
1. (S/NOFORN) Prior to the session the remote viewer was shown the attached
SG1A photograph which he has seen many times before. He was told that he would be
asked to focus on
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of at one hour intervals. He was asked to elaborate on his descrip-
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