SESSION REPORT, REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-38. VIEWER 001.

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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-38
1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request from CIA. The purpose of the session was to provide
information concerning a specific room in the building shown at TAB B.
2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided as
raw intelligence data and as such have not been subjected to any intermediate
analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information
provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document,
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At tAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing infor?
mation provided the remote viewer.
5. (S/NOFORN) Sessions D-38 and D-39 were conducted simultaneously using
different remote viewers and different interviewers.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-38
#20.5: This will be a remote viewing session for 10 September,
with a start time of 1100 hours. Test.
#01: Test.
020.5: Okay, 401, time to start the session for today. I want
you to relax, relax awl foals your attention on the pic?
ture that I have show** you, focusing on the picture that
I've shown you. Move to the building. Move your perspec?
tive to the building in that picture, and focus your
attention on the room that you were designated to visit.
Move to that room and describe that room to me. Describe
that room that I designated to you earlier. Relax and
concentrate on that room.
#01: Narrow...wide white floor, polished tile
Some kind of metal racks by the one wall...it's a wall on
the right, there's a...a picture... Some kind of...
electronic equipment in the racks... Low table or desk
on the other side next to the wall...with a light colored
top...some safes...small...all wood paneling on the walls
...could be just a brown finish or wallpaper with a...
pattern
Have a...discussion, I guess, going on... There's three
people there Say, there's some different kind
of table Let me...look for a minute here
+OS' Sort of like some kind of a...communications room
Uh...uh that's all I'm getting....
#20.5: Tell me about the, the overall condition of this room 001.
Tell me about the condition of this room
401: Something...get a lot of impressions when you asked that.
See the brown of the walls...and, uh, some kind of serrated,
or shredded or something tattered hanging down...some bare
wires...uh, sort of looks partially constructed, in a way
+07 ...things are exposed...very cold in the room some?
thing tattered hanging down
420.5: Tell me? tell me about any other pieces of equipment that
you? or furniture that you see in this room, 001.
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#01: Saw.. what looks like a...small stunted safe. There's a
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...a evseme6t, it's like encryption gear or something...
something sitting on a table top...table top. Just a min?
ute, let me look at a minute.
020.5: Okay, take your time.
PAUSE
+09 #01: Must...must be some kind of radio, it's got...got large
dials on the front, and looks like glass plate, square
plate, the size of a TV screen, that's all..:TV screen,
and some wires in front. I don't get a feeling like it's
a radio, it just looks like one...
#20.5: Okay... Is there anything else you want to tell me about
this room?
011: I'm gonna look again... There's...I can't explain it,
like there's, uh, the room should be on a hallway, but
I'm like looking where the wall should be and I don't see
it, I'm looking through the wall or something. The hallway
is not there
That's all I got.
#20.5: Okay. Anything else, nothing else you want to add then,
huh?
#01: Not that I see.
#20.5: Okay. Very good. I want you to relax then we'll do
some drawings here in a second.
Okay, why don't we go ahead and do the drawings then, #01.
#01: Okay, I'm gonna draw these...air conditioners or whatever
th9y are so that you know how I approached this room here.
It's like these three things are down here on the end.
The room is very narrow and goes very deep this way. And,
uh, this wall has got metal racks of some kind on it...
And this wall right here has got these boxes that look like
safes. And the desk or white table top was right here...
And then I got a feelin' like there's the end of the...the
white table or something down here. I'm not sure exactly
about position of this, but it's...
020.5: Just make sure you label it.
#07: Yeah. And there's like a...radio like device. Okay?
#20.5: Okay.
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4E01: In this rack here I perceive there to be comm equipment
you know, like teletypes, that's where they terminals for
teletype wirings, and encryption gear. And where this door
and a wall should be, I can't find t t for some reason.
It's like there should be...a hallwa t I don't see
one. And, uh, somewhere in this mess I'm seeing like bared
wires, and by that I mean like taking...like, uh, not power
lines, but like audio lines and stripping the ca? the plas?
tic off. Seeing that, and I'm seeing something that looks
like a tattered or torn, tattered or torn curtain. The
walls? I keep getting an impression of brown walls for
some reason. I don't think they're wood, I just...at first
I said they were wood, you know, that they were wood panel
all around, but that may be wrong, that may be analytic,
you know, they're brown though. You know, they're brown.
#20.5: Okay.
#01: And the floor's white, like a white square.
#20.5: Okay. That was just about your first impression. Why
did you? tell me why you felt cold in the room
#01: I'm not surelAhlat was like a fleeting impression. Uh...
let me think about that a second, I'll tell you
It's like I got an impression that there's, there's a
reason for that, you know, it's like it has to be kept
cold. I think? I don't think I felt cold as much as I did
the necessity to keep it cold. You know, I don't know if
that makes any sense, but...had to be kept cold I would
say.
#20.5: Okay.- You, uh, Were asked to describe the general condi?
tion of the room.
#01: Yeah.
#20.5: I really didn't understand how you felt about that. Not
objects, but just general condition of the room. You're
describing something there in your drawing anyway, that
looks like everything has a, is a, there's a place for
everything type thing.
#01: Right. Correct. And, uh...therela, uh....there's a,
but there's a...what I see ther4retherel and it's,
everything is in it's place. But there's, the thing that
bothers me is I'm seeing a, uh, like wires that should not
be bared are bared, and you wouldn't expect to see the
bottom edge of a curtain to be tattered, but it's tattered.
And, uh...sort of a, a disarray superimposed over the,
you know, the orderliness of things. It's sort of like
having a table set for eight and everything is just right
and then you sprinkle the food all over it. That sort of
effect.
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#20.5: Okay. Uh
#01: I don't know if that makes any sense, but that's the effect.
#20.5: Okay, you mentioned a small safe. Where is that #01?
#01: Oh, uh, it's somewhere back up here by the white table.
I don't know exactly where, but somewhere up in this area.
#20.5: What does that safe look like?
#01: I'll draw you a little picture of it.
#20.5: Why don't you draw me a little picture of it then?
401: An impression, it almost looks a lot like one of those
little refrigerators...which may be what it is, it looks
like a little safe, though... I perceive it to have a
very heavy door, though, in any event... And it does, on
reflection, appear to be...like one of those little refri?
gerators... That's the way it looks.
#20.5: A single door, is that what you're showing?
401: Yeah, just a single door on the front, and it goes top
to bottom. It's probably, at the maximum, three feet high
and two wide...and a foot and a half deep. Just looks
like a little tiny thing.
#20.5: That's drawing number two?
401: Two, yeah.
420.5: Okay, uh...is this the way you perceive the safe? crtilectocASI
I'm asking is it looks like the safe is closed.
401: Yeah.
#20.5: So that's the way you saw it. Okay. See if there's any?
thing? sneeze? excuse me. That'll raise hell with tem,
won't it?
#01: Blow somebodys eardrums out.
#20.5: Okay, uh, anything else you want to add then?
#01: Uh, there's somethin' botherin' me here a little bit.
Let me think about it just a second This tattered
curtain and bared wires is botherin' me, and I don't
know why and I want to think about it a minute.
#20.5: Okay. Take your time.
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#01: 17 I think I perceive a reason for it but I want to make
up my mind here whether or not it's overlay, or
#20.5: Yeah, don't try to read into the problem.
#01: No, but 17 It it's one of those, it's like I couldn't
think of that word that time, and then it came to me
It's almost, okay, it's like the room is in a very orderly
fashion, everything is in it's place, and there was
like a, uh, centralized, very intenap blast of heat, like
almost a white heat that was so quick that nothing burned,
but there's, there's like scarring from it. You know,
it melted the plastic off the wires and darkened, or did
something to the walls, you know, almost caused an inter?
ior photographic effect. You know, like exposing a nega?
tive.
#20.5: Can you tell what the cause of this was?
#01: Something small, you know, it wasn't big, it was very
small. And I don't...
#20.5: Are you saying it was some kind of explosion in the room?
#01: Well, I hesitate to call it that, 'cause I don't, I don't
see a violent explosion, but I, well, it's violent from a
heat standpoint, but I don't see a? like an incendiary
explosion, okay?
#20.5: Okay.
#01: More like, instead of a bomb type explosion, an incendiary
type explosion.
#20.5: Have you got anything else you'd like to add now, at this
time?
#01: No.
#20.5: Okay. Very good. I don't have any other questions.
End of session.
#01: That's it.
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TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-38
1. (S/NOFORN) This was the first remote viewing session conducted against
this target.
2. (S/NOFORN) Prior to the session the viewer was shown a picture of the
target building. See attached Xerox copy. He was told what area of the
building USI was interested in; however, he was only shown a picture of the
outside of the building.
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