INSCOM GRILL FLAME PROGRAM SESSION REPORT SUMMARY ANALYSIS REMOTE VIEWING(RV) SESSION CC87

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GRILL FLAME
PROGRAM
SESSION REPORT
CLASSIFIED BY: DIRECTOR, DIA
REVIEW ON: 12 Feb 2000
EXTENDED BY: DIRECTOR, DIA
REASON: 2-301c (3 & 6)
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC87
1. (S) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted
in compliance with a request for information on a target of
interest.
2. (S) The viewer was provided the geographic coordinates of the
target area at the time of the session. This was the second time
this viewer had attempted to access this target. The viewer was
able to achieve his usual degree of relaxed concentration and was
undistrubed by ambient room noise which was minimal.
3. (S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the
document, Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing
Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions
during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by
the viewer reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B
are analyst's comments.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC87
#28 This will be a remote viewing session (edited for
security).
SG1B
SG1B
PAUSE
Focus your attention now on the area designated:
Relax and concentrate now.
Relax and concentrate. Concentrate and describe
the target to me.
PAUSE
#07 I got some of those...uh...those...uh...spider holes
+05 poc mark things...uh...down the valley. I think
it's...uh...think it's probably that would be
northeast. (Sigh) I saw something that...uh...
reminded me of a hydroelectric dam. I don't see a
big body of water, but I see pen stock.
And, I thought I saw a discharge shirt (phonetic)
discharge suit (phonetic)...uh...discharge suit...
chute...I don't know. There's alot of power, lot
of power. It's awful cold for ...uh...awful cold
for...uh...hydroelectric.
PAUSE
I see that...uh...big ball like thing again...over
or that hill.
#28 Tell me about your perspective. Tell me where
you are seeing these things from.
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#07 I came in up the valley...saw this desert looking
valley...uh...kind of moon...moon like crater...
looked like moon...and I don't know where I saw
this...what looked like big...big pen stock...
which is part of a hydroelectric dam, and I saw...
uh...the discharge chutes. I went on down the
valley and the hill was...uh...big silver thing
on it...uh... Buildings were all off to my left.
Big scroll thing is down there. Kind of below, and
to my right...the big scroll thing. I either am
+10 seeing a dim view of...uh...side of...uh...track
from...uh...track vehicle or it's a belt of ammunition
one. Just curves like the front of a track
PAUSE
Keep seeing this thing...uh...looks like a
fleur-de-lis with an eagle on it. Eagle facing
right. I don't know what the hell it's all about.
It's...uh...it's metal. It's got something written
on it.
PAUSE
I can't get it. There's a bunch of numbers across
+15 the bottom... There's a big antenna over there
but the way it's configured, I don't think it can
track. It...uh...I don't think it can rotate. It's
...uh...looks like a parabolic dish (phonetic)
suspended between two vertical pylons. It's pointed
about 45 degrees above the horizon.
#28 What is your position of observation now?
#07 I am over close to the...uh...the complex. That'd
be further to the southwest.
#28 Turn and face the complex and tell me about it.
#07 Most of the structure seems to be two stories or
smaller. Relatively small buildings...it does not
look like a big metropolis...it's...uh...there's
people...uh...there's a tall, tall, tall structure
further to the left. It's...uh...further south.
It stands out above the rest of 'em. There appears
to be a...I think it's a railroad spur...uh...to
the northwest of the complex.
#28 Move directly over the railroad spur and look down.
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#07 Uh...uh.
#28 Follow the railroad tracks.
#07 Which way?
#28 Proceed at your discretion and describe as you go.
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#07 I, I, I take the ones to the right...northeast...
and I got...because of alot of things would be
logical...is...uh...well partially.. .1 see alot of
...uh...guess they call them trucks...uh...railroad...
+20 axle...wheels...groups of...uh...four wheels off to
the right and just...oh, isn't that interesting...
big pipes... There's a complex. Just found a complex
of overhead...uh...big tubes. (Sigh)
#28 Stop for a moment. Where are you now in relation
to the complex? In relationship to the town or complex.
#07 It's...uh...back over on my right, behind me, southwest,
I guess.
#28 All right. Turn around now, and go down the tracks
in the other direction.
#07 Ok. I saw something.
#28 Would you like to tell me about it?
#07 Uh...I saw guns again, but they weren't the same as
the other day. They were smaller. Looked like...uh...
looked like...uh...towed artillery.. .it was stored.
It appeared to be outside. Ok. You want me to go
down the track?
#28 Yes. Go towards the complex. Tell me what happens
with the tracks.
#07 I'm confused. I think I got another spur here.
#28 That's fine.
#07 Wait a minute. I started down there at that spur,
curved off here towards the hills to the left, and
I took the right. I turn around, look.....oh what
the...looking south...seemed like it was going off
+25 on a different track further to the left. There's
alot of tracks in here.
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#07 On the right...alot of heat...some kind of...
some kind of manufacturing there.
#28 Move to that area.
#07 I.. .it's coal fired. there's...uh...uh...a
big...uh...uh...(sigh) big belts...uh...just
got big belts...uh...like coal conveyers that conveys
coal or ore up high. It's going now...ah...ah...
it's going now. I mean..it's...uh...I mean it's
...uh...operating.
#28 All right.
PAUSE
#28 Tell me more about the operation of this area.
Tell me more about what is being done in this area.
#07 I've been trying to figure out. Kind of took me
by surprise. I didn't expect to see this.
PAUSE
#07 I was looking for something that tipped me off.
I saw...uh...a big crucible like device over there.
I thought it must be stell, but...I got some funny
tires (phonetic) over here. I don't think...uh...
I don't think it's ...I can't figure the bucket.
Off to the right of this thing it's, it's very
smooth swept...uh... The ground is swept clean.
It's light in tone. There's two or three ramp like
conveyers. I don't know what the heck it is.
I see some more of those big pipes. I, I, I, I
+30 don't know if I've said it. There's...uh...there's
a feeling of alot of...uh...fire...uh...fire or power
...uh... I think this must be...where I saw the red
flash the other day.
#28 Is this a building you're looking at?
#07 I think so. I see...uh...it's all...several high
things...metallic...I...I thought there was some
type of...maybe manufacturing process big conveyer
shapes, and all this heat. Yeah, I think the
structures building type shapes, I guess. I see
some spherical tanks around on stands that,...I
don't know, maybe 30 or 40 feet through. I think
they're high pressure cylinders. I mean high pressure
spherical tank.
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Tell me of
#28 Your position of observation now.
#07 Ah...about 40 feet off the ground...looking...hum...
looking southeast.
#28 Move up to 200 feet and look straight down.
PAUSE
#07 Dam! I don't understand this. It's dark but
see...looks like a bunch of blow torches...uh...
either they are all blowing into the same place or
they're all blowing out of the same place. Very
bright and noisy.
+35 #28 Move up to 1000 feet and look straight down.
PAUSE
#07 Ok. The area keeps flickering. Large scale things
keep flying by. Basically, I see a complex of
building or what I think is some kind of factory
thing on the northeast periphery to the
south twoards the mountains I saw a glimpse of a
giant tubular shape. I have no idea what it is.
#28 All right. Holding your focus on that, move so that
a manufacturing-complex is directly underneath you.
Look straight down and describe it to me.
PAUSE
#07 I can see silhouettes. Tall structures from the -
flashing light, red glow. Also see what appears to be
smoke or steam billowing up and drifitng to, drifting
up the valley. Light reflecting off of it...uh...
seems rather warm area compared to the coldness out
side of this area. That's one thing...it sticks (phonetic)
way up towards me.
PAUSE
#28 Move down on the ground. Now, move down on the ground
in the complex, and describe your surroundings.
PAUSE
#07 I'm standing in a narrow gauge railroad, but that
disappears off in the darkness. There's a big barn
+40 like building in front of me. I saw...looked like
insulators, glowing. See repetition of tubes on my
right.
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#28 Explain tubes.
#07 They're inclined upwards 25 degrees looked like
something is discharging into them.
#28 Face the barn building again, and describe it to
me.
PAUSE
#07 That's weird. It looks like it's got...uh...yeah...
repetition I saw looked like...uh...repetition...
you see...uh...looking down the hull of old fashioned
boat with ribs, cradle like...uh...repetition...uh...
have feelin the whole building isn't being used.
It's...uh...just...uh...uh...(mumbling). I don't
know what it's for. It's empty right now, but
they're going to use the center portion or something.
#28 Describe the height of this building.
#07 Oh...maybe, maybe 40-50 feet, but it's longer than
that. Extends more than that away from me. I have
a feeling...uh...I feel like I can almost see through
the roof. I mean...uh...I'm in the door looking in.
It's like a big, big tank car (phonetic) barn.
#28 Explain.
PAUSE
#07 I was looking down this railroad track...looks like
it went in that direction. I just said I saw wheels
and a big tank car. You know. Thought petrol or
something. But, railroad don't go....it stops.
There is no manufacturing in this big barn.
#28 All right.
PAUSE
#07 All right. It's dark in here. I don't know whether
I'm seeing now or...the past or...it looks like a
big tank car...tank car...tank truck
PAUSE
I got to be in the wrong place. It's like
+53 Jules Verne
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#07 It's a big sucker
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#07 Get me out of here. I think I'm
+56 #28 Tell me what's big.
#07 Uh...I think, I think I'm hallucinating. This...
uh...this dam truck...looked like a giant...uh...
like a giant rocket, or something. I was trying to
go around over it. I saw these big...uh...big rocket
engine shapes. It's awfully big when you get up
close to it. I was trying to figure out the...if
I was imagining how it worked...if I actually,
actually saw it, saw it move. Dam thing. It looked like
it straightened right up, and...uh...I was trying
to figure how it could do that, and I, I looked
up and I saw, I saw night sky. I would have sworn
I was inside.
+60 I don't like this.
PAUSE
There's something awful big insulators or something
over there...(phonetic)...big cables. It's funny
I feel, I feel inside and I feel outside. All mixed
up.
PAUSE
#28 Ok. I have no further questions about this target
at this time. If there's anything that you would
like to add before drawing do so now.
#07 I just want to get out of here.
#28 All right. Come on back now to me. Move your arms.
Move your legs. Take deep breaths and sit up and
draw.
#10.5 All right. Where am I? Get right down to it. What
I'd like is a sketch, to start us off, about 13 minutes
into the session or so you discussed what you
perceived to be a non-tracking parabolic dish located
between two pilings
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Pylons.
#10.5 Pylons...ok..uh..aimed at approximately 45 degrees
above the horizon.
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#07 Ok. Number 1.
#10.5 Ok. We had you...or #28 then had you on..uh..moving
up and down the railroad tracks. Next thing..uh..
ok..you began to get this feeling or gestalt coal
fire manufacturing, I'm quoting from you, big belts
like coal conveyers. This is just to refresh your
memory of where you were in the session. Two to
three ramp conveyers and big pipes. Ok. Do you
recall that image?
#07 Yes.
#10.5 Can you give me a sketch of that?
#07 That's quite a complex.This other building over here..
I saw alot of light coming in the vicinity of annotation
A. Uh..there was alot of light coming out of there.
Alot of roof lines back in here, but I can't remember
them all. It was quite complex.
#10.5 Ok. You mentioned right in there spherical tanks
30 to 40 feet through. Maybe high pressure tanks. Was
that in association with this or was that separate
imagery?
#07 Three or four of them I felt were fairly close to this.
Maybe less than 200 feet periphery of this. The town
that was back in behind this looking to the south went.
#10.5 Ok. Fine. For 3 why don't you give me the tanks?
#07 It was just spherical tank?like high pressure tanks.
I don't know. They appeared to be on some kind of
stands. I can't remember. No big deal. They weren't
right together. They were?uh?some of them were,
maybe half the size of this...biggest ...close to 40 feet,
and they were not in pairs, or anything.Irregularly
spaced. It wasn't like a tank farm or anything.
#10.5 Ok. Then we'll start working on the building, I guess.
1,&07 The building? The barn.
#10.5 The barn building, yeah.
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#07 I. When I first looked through the door it looked
like I was looking down..uh..looking down the rib
inside an old fashioned boat. It had wooden ribs..uh..
I could see the repetition in the angle other than
vertical. I felt that the..uh..hum..it's funny, I
thought there was a bay off here to the right, somewhere.
It seemed relatively empty. tight structure. There
was times I felt I could see..uh..through the roof.
I wasn't sure whether railroad tracks-A/ant:inside or not.
They went off in that direction and they just kind of
went out in the darkness. I got over to the inside of
the door, and I could see inside. Later on, I thought
I saw a huge annotation A again, in number 4, page 4,
and I had the feeling of..uh..giant tank car or something.
Wheels on this...this critter...hum...and it, I think
it felt more, rounded but oval shape....played
around in there..uh..this thing took on the shape of
a rocket. Uh..I had the feeling of multiple, multiple
rocket motors but all I could see was one big cone.
#10.5 Ok. Could you do me....just make that the subject of
a separate sketch. If you would, then.
#07 Ok.
#10.5 Is that, is that A, annotation A there..uh..is that
inside there or outside there?
#07 I had it parked inside.
#10.5 Draw a dotted line across there, then...inset, ok.
Good. All right. Yes. Let's make a separate sketch
of this if you would, please.
#07 With that thing there?
#10.5 Yeah. Of that. That should be sketch 5. Yeah.
You spent considerable time, I got the idea, playing
around and you tried to crawl on it and get on top of
it and at 55 minutes into the session your comments
were big truck like thing, rocket engine shapes and
then you had ...began to..uh..get the feeling that in
its functioning that it looked like it straightened
right up.
#07 Yeah. I had it almost vertical. Uh..and then I found
myself restling with the fact that I had just seen the
place empty and here the thing was..uh..moving into a
vertical position, almost vertical and I looked up and
there was no roof. Now that I think of it, you know
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this, this makes sense, this makes sense to me.
Uh..there are such things that the roof somehow
or another moves or opens or folds open or moves
aside or something. And, its description of..uh..
this description of some known rockets in..uh..
..uh..Russia or satelite countries that had been..uh..
deployed in large buildings. I don't know. Perhaps
for storage. Perhaps..uh..to fire from there. I
don't know. But, now I can see that.
#10.5 You feel that you can give me a more possible detail
sketch of that object in 5 from your perceptions.
Possibly calibration of size, magnitude..uh..
#07 I remember it felt tremendously large..uh..compared
to a tank truck...I thought it was (mumbling)..uh..
I just thought that I felt so dam tiny and small
and miniscual when this thing...I just felt overwhelmed.
I don't know if it was because of the movement there
or because it was so blamed big, but, I felt threatened.
Threatened feeling..uh..and..uh..I was festinated. I
wasn't afraid of it but, I still felt threatened. If
you know. what I am trying to say there. I don't know.
There was some kind of mechanism.
When this thing started moving I was, I was up on top
of thing right here..uh..between these two support type
mechanisms. Then I got wrapped round the axle..uh..
because I looked up and I saw sky and I thought I was
outside. Oh, yeah! Off to the right, over, here, I
saw a big box like thing and there are some big cables
going over, over to it. That's about it. It's not
a very good drawing, but the thing was quite complicated.
I didn't get any one particular little thing about it.
I didn't follow all the pipes and hoses...and clamps and
things.
#10.5 Ok. Um...I'm going to have to ask you to back step now
one more time to your first impression of this barn
shaped object. Something here that will probably be
of assistance. Ok. To go back to your initial
description of this. Narrow gauge with narrow bed
which disappears in the darkness. Big barn in front.
Looks like insulators glowing.
#07 That was above into the right, over here somewhere,
and they were, they were small ones getting bigger
and bigger and bigger towards me. Like they were
coming up over to the right side, right side of the
structure. That's on sketch 4. And, they went in
the air almost as high as the building was, and
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they were to the right of the barn.
#10.5 And, the repetition of tubes on the right
inclined upwards.
#07 Yeah. Do you want those?
#10.5 Yeah. Just start another one there with the
tubes so we can tie them together.
#07 I guess that's six.
#10.5 Yeah.
#07 Hum, I would choose an angle where you can see
only one of them. And, there was something
from the left appeared to be projected or flowing
into these things, for some reason, and I couldW.t
see what it was back of that. Uh..at first the
overlay flashed back to like water flowing in out
of a pen stock, which I had encountered somewhere
up the valley earlier. Uh..I tried to figure out
what it was..uh..mechanical or relative to manufacturing
process and I couldn't come up with anything. I also
thought I might have had the thing turned around or
tilted. Maybe stuff was pouring out of it. But, the
thing still stood at the angle I've got them drawn
here and..uh..it disappeared as though something was
flowing into them. It was curved from the left. I
have no idea. I have no feeling for it whatsoever.
#10.5 Ok. And they stood at that angle relative to the
ground.
#07 Yes they did. And, I think they were into something
down here keeping them up holding that position. I
didn't see any bracing or anything under them. Any
racks, or anything. I felt terribly mixed up there.
I thought I might have them tilted. I thought it might
be an overlay from pen stock. I didn't know whether
the stuff was flowing in or flowing out. Just imagery.
#10.5 That's it. That's it. Real good.
#07 Are we at the end of this target?
#10.5 We sure are.
#07 Ok.
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ANALYST COMMENTS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC87
1. (S/ORCON) CUEING DATA: Prior to the session, the interviewer
was provided the following information:
a. A slip of paper containing only: "target is in the vicinit
of geographic coordinates
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b. Interviewer was informed the target was located within the right
portion of the "town" which the RVer had identified during Session CC74.
c. Using only sketch #1 from Session CC74, the interviewer was
informed that analysis indicated a railroad (not previously observed
by RVer) ran from beneath the RVer's perspective to the "town," and that
a major trunk of the railroad forked right inside the "town" to the
vicinity of the target.
d. A copy of Sketch #1, CC74 was made available to the interviewer
with which the RVer's memory could be refreshed prior to this Session.
e. Interviewer showed Sketch #1, C074 to the RVer prior to cool
down. At session start time interviewer read only geographic coordinates
of the target to the RVer.
2. (S/ORCON) COMMENTS:
a. At early start of session RVer acquired imagery similar to that
of CC74.
b. At start +18 minutes, RVer "discovered" railroad tracks in the
vicinity of his focus, and was only then directed by the interviewer
to follow them. Shortly thereafter, RVer began reporting data bearing
strong gestalt relationship to the target area (a large heavy manufacturing
complex of which only a small portion constitutes the target facility).
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