INSCOM GRILL FLAME PROGRAM SESSION REPORT

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INSCOM
GRILL FLAME
.PROGRAM
SESSION REPORT
CLASSIFIED BY: DIRECTOR, DIA
REVIEW ON:
EXTENDED BY: DIRECTOR, DIA
REASON: 2-301c (3 & 6)
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC80
1. (S) This report provides documentation of a remote viewing session
conducted in compliance with a request for information on a target of
interest.
2. (S) The remote viewer was provided with the geographic coordinates
of the target in question at the time of the session. He had
difficulty obtaining his usual state of relaxed concentration during the
first part of the session. He expressed his confidence in his imagery
after the session.
3. (S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document,
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S),
undated.
4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At Tab A are drawings made by the viewer
reference his impressions of the target site.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC80
#66 This will be a remote viewing session (edited for security).
PAUSE
SG1B Relax and concentrate now. Relax and contrate on the SG1B
target for today.
concentrate
Relax and SG1B
PAUSE
SG1B SG1B
SG1B Relax and concentrate relax and concentrate.
Concentrate, focus on the target, and
describe the area to me.
+06 #24.5 (Mumble) big cylinder. Feeling of low structures on the...
(mumble) light, and on the near left, near the
cylinder is another structure, it's long, wooden like a
+08 barracks, windows...ah...between me and there I feel a wire
fencing like double, maybe...ah...10 feet apart...and...
ah...3 meters high. There's...ahmand...ah...in the wire,
can feel...ah...shade of the structure on my left, the long
+10 one. It is...ah...another 15 or so feet from the inside
wire. There is, looking out of the wire, there is...I feel
a road...ah...off where I was which curves away to the
right of you and then the curve is an entrance road which
comes through the wire at the water tower shaped thing.
I...ah...the building is...ah...maybe...ah...50 yards
long. I feel it is...ah...wooden and is...ah...up on
bricks or something, you can see a black space around the
base of it. The end near the cylinder thing seems to have
a...ah...awning on the ground floor covering a step.
#66 Tell me about the activity in the area.
PAUSE
+15 #24.5 I get a feeling...ah...of a motor park...ah...on the far
side, corner, behind the low buildings. On the other side
of the gate feeling, I get a feeling...ah...a tactical
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vehicle move...ah...in and out through that gate, and...
ah...access the road outside, and exercise, but I am
feeling in the far right corner is...ah...where they are.
I had...ah...where they are stored. I have a feeling of..
ah...seeing towed...ah...artillerY behind a peice of
equipment like a...ah...half-track. The...ah...the...ah..
artillery is...ah...shrouded...ah...a road thing, a dust
cover...ah...a tarp which...ah...covers the tube and is...
ah...pulled down around in the near the axle of...ah...a
two wheeled axle, but...ah...there's artillery points very
high up, in...in a road and park situation. It is
pointing at maybe only 20 degrees off the verticle. Let
me look some more.
#66 Alright, fine. I will wait.
PAUSE
+20 #24.5 I have a funny...ah...feeling of a...ah...very small
armored tank like thing with...ah...it looks very funny,
with the back of the turret almost open and the...ah...
there's a gun on it, there's a cannon gun, and it has a
turret. For some reason I see a man standing in the back
of it in this track thing and it seems almost open...ah...
and it seems very small, like the man stands and his
entire stomach and chest sticks out of the turret, and he
must squat down to get inside. And, I have this feeling
of a double hatch in the back, two split hatches which
expose personnel inside. The gun tube is only a meter
and a half long at the most, and...ah...let me get...ah...
higher look around...ah...I'll go over the park.
#66 Alright. I have no further questions about this target,
+25 so scan the park from above and give me your concluding
comments.
PAUSE
#24.5 There is something funny around the backs of some
vehicles. I had the feeling the entire corner of this...
far right corner to the motor park and outside the wire
I cannot see the motor park, as though there's a screen
inside the fence. OK.
#66 OK. Anything else you'ld like to add before drawing.
#24.5 Ah...I think there's many more buildings here than I'm
seeing. I can't get any resolution on them, but I've got
the feeling that...ah...bordering on the motor park are a
lot more structures. I got a general outline from up
above.
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#66 OK, fine. Let's draw then.
#24.5 OK, No. 1. Immediate, well not immediate, it took me some
time to get it as all hell was breaking loose in the hall,
but...ah...no, that's not right, I'll start all over again
cause the angle's wrong. A shallow, conical, legged thing.
First, this is the first thing that I saw, right here, with
a feeling of wire in the foreground that I could see
through. Feeling of...ah...over here, something that I
later had to work on, you know. You can see those are over
or farther away, these structures that look like little
buildings, OK, on the right side, and here in the fore-
ground coming right down to the end of that building, a
much larger size building, OK, which was inside the wire.
That was my first imagery, just like this, and I think
that's a pretty damn good sketch too. OK, in here, I'm
sorry, those window are not...they're long and skinny, and
not upright, they're vertically long and skinny instead of
horizontally so, so they're like the rest of them. I made
a couple of errors there, OK. And that...ah...0K, I
couldn't see that yet...ah...and this building had...was
linear, OK, had lines in it feeling, as though it was a
wood building, OK, like this. That, when I said cone, or I
didn't say cone, I said cylinder, that was it, but it had
legs on it, but I didn't bother to say anything about it,
but it had...the...the imagery had legs and everything,
that's why later on I said water tower because to me that's
just the shape it had. OK, the tower, from the top of the
roof, once I got in the wire I took a quick hop up, and the
tower is slightly larger than this big building in the
foreground but not much, like maybe only 20 feet taller,
OK. OK, then I drifted in, I drifted from there to 2, OK.
2 is a feeling of this, OK. There are, OK, then there's...
alright, this is the wire, OK, on each side. I'm in the
wire is what I am, I'm between a double...
#66 OK, I understand. When you moved in the position of 2,
you found yourself...
#24.5 Inside the wire. A double wall wire, a double wire wall,
OK.
#66 Alright.
#24.5 I'm here, I'm in so I can see out, OK. Now, out here
behind this, now, I had the feeling that there was a road
which came across here, OK, came like this from where I had
been, and that it hit a road and that curved away into the...
into the distance like that, OK. In other words...in other
words, when I was...when I drew 1, I was sitting on the
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road, and then I came into the wire and I looked back and I
could see that there was this road...funny road thing out
here, OK, and that's...you can see that through the wire,
right. That's the imagery I had, like that, and this is a
road, OK, and this is a road feeling. Alright, same-same
on the other side. The road comes across here and then
goes on, OK. And then over here in the background, OK, is
a building, another building, and then up here - I'm still
on the other side of the fence, OK - OK, this road, OK, and
then behind, let me draw all that, a little bit's more
solid. Do a better feeling for depth, OK. This road comes
across like this and 3 of these buildings is all I really
saw, OK, like that. So, I'm in the wire here...ah...these
things, there were funny lines coming down, it was really
peculiar, there were lines coming down from this thing, and
lines coming down this way, like that, OK. So this is
inside double fence, OK. Alright, that's 2. Now for 3.
Love debriefing, you'll never get this, smoke your whole
cigarette. Ah...what w6s I. Ok, here was the building
now, I'll draw the building from a little bit more distant
perspective in order to show everything on it. I was
actually down...OK...I'm sorry, let me draw some
dimensions on here. What'd I say, I said this was about
10 feet, and I said...I know it doesn't look like that,
but this is about 8 feet, OK, tall, feeling was about 8
feet or...what'd I say, 3 meters...3 meters tall. OK,
and then I said it was about 15 feet...15 feet to the big
building. Alright, here's the big building. Right off
the end of it is the water tower type thing, alright, and
it's got some sort of a shingle apparatus on it there,
then it...I had the feeling itiwas classic GI style
wooden building that you could see in under, OK. ;Here in
the foreground is the wire, so you have to look through
the wire to see everything. Oh, up here, well, too late
to do it now, maybe it's not. Up here I had the feeling...
this is not cha...I...ah...I don't know. Ok, that's
there anyway, I know that, I don't know about the inside
one. There, OK, and then it's got...and I said that it
was 50 meters long, OK. Alright, you asked me what
activity goes on, that's when I hopped up to the air, I
to a couple hundred feet maybe at the max, and I had this
sort of a layout, no, that's a later layout, that's on the
other side, so I'll hold on to that until I get to it, but,
OK, here is what was the perspective I had. It's not
really important to have a perspective I guess in this one.
Anyway, I had the feeling of...at-I?OK...OK, these are the
two wires, alright. Got my perspective off, there's the
roof, OK, now I got it. There, OK, there's the long
building, and there's the water tower there, OK, the road
comes out, and this road curves around like that. This
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road comes in, here's the 3 smaller buildings, OK. And
that, up here was this motor park, comes back like that,
nodded in, alright. Now, support that, go to 4a
because what I...I saw, you know, vehicles driving in, OK,
type of a situation. Alright, so, the first vehicle in
4a...the first vehicle I had was, OK, and this thing was
towing something which stuck up in the air like that, and
that's what I was trying to say in the park. These things
stuck up only a couple degrees off the verticle. It's not
like when we tow artillery, you know, the...the...it's
like that, it's at a regular old...almost...it's...we
measure our towed artillery tube from the horizontal up,
but this piece of equipment was so high up in the air that
you'ld have to measure it from the verticle down in order
to find the angle, OK. And this feeling was that it was
draped over with a sack type of a thing, OK, protective...
protective sack...yea...s - a - c - k, OK. And this was
traveling on the road into, OK, into the gate, 4a, 4b. I
had the same feeling, similar scenario. Not much above,
OK. Ahm...that sucker was also, OK, anyway, these turkeys
were trucking through camp, right, OK, here on Sketch 4,
when I saw them, they were like driving in front of these
3 big buildings...these 3 little buildings, OK, between
the buildings and the water tower and they boogying on that
way. Alright...ah...a motor part type of a thing, that's
4a and 4b for that. The motor park was...I had the feeling
of a...I had a feeling of the...of the guns in 4a and 4b,
you know, the towed guns. I feeling for the duece and a
half type of thing in 4a, I did not have the feel for the
half track of 4b, but the thing that I was...when I was
sitting there working and all of a sudden I came up with
what was...was a peculiarly small armored vehicle sitting
in this motor park, nothing really going on, just, see,
another one down the tubes. The best thing I can do for
myself, I don't get to smoke as much. So we'll go to...
ah...5, Sketch 5, I guess, will be a motor park. OK,
that's the thing I was trying to talk about, you see the
way that's winged back there, that's what I'm talking
about. See, it's open in the back end was the idea I was
trying to get across. Alright, the back end of the
cupola, alright. A man standing in this thing is this
high, OK, now, let me get...try to get these other
features down here. Alright, the one thing I'm gonna have
to do, I can see, is take an art course. Alright, I'm
gonna have to try again. I'm gonna try again on 5.
Maybe I should start from the bottom up. Ok, now...
alright, now, in there the cupola is...ah...the turret
rather, is close to the front end...ah...0K, it comes
back like that, comes around like that, and then it
slants down like that. There. Alright, that's a little
better. Now, in this raised deck, in the back, I had the
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definite feeling that there were...that those things were
split hatches...split hatches type of a situation, OK.
Now, the front of this sucker was the gun tube, which was
not a big gun tube, I'll have to go back, what'd I say,
4 to 5 feet long. Alright. That's what I'm trying to
get across is a man standing next to this thing is...it's
not a full sized tank, it's like a little tank, OK, but
it's like a carrier tank, it's only..not carrier, it
doesn't make sense...it's like a troop carrying tank, it's
not an APC, but it's not an M60 type tank. It's somewhere
in the middle, that's got a small turret that a man, when
he stands up in the turret is waist high up, he sticks way
out of it, you know. Not like our guys when...when you
stick your head out of the turret, you know, you're about
chest and your shoulders stick up, you know, but this is
like when he stands up it's all the way down to his waist
is exposed. And, I had the...I had the...ah...ahm...0K, I
can do some more on this thing. First of all, the muzzle
is one of these numbers, OK. It's got a...it's got the old
style brake in it, what I'm trying to say, an overhead view
of the muzzle is like this. Not much farther, hardly any
distance at all, OK. OK, like that. Ahm...now I'll do
another one in 5a, like an overhead view, if I can, it
looks like this. I can't...I can't draw...draw anything in
the back end. That was a very distinct view I had of these
hatches open in the back of it. I don't even know if
they're two separate ones. No, as a matter of fact,
they're not two separate ones. They're...they're separate,
but they...this is "X-ed out," there's no cross piece
there, OK, disregard that. When these things open up, they
open up section to section, OK. Darken these in so we get
what we're after. That's what I want. There, disregard
those lines across the...ah...bit, cause the...the hatch
feeling that I had was that they were all open in a side-
by-side, alright, now, right behind this thing, or hung
the other side of it then, is the cupola which was cut
away and came down around like this...like that, and had
a wing back type look. Like I said, you know, I...I said
how the hell can a guy stand in there and...and continue
to live very long, and I had the feeling that there was a
protective hatch on the back of the turret that...two
hatches on the back of the turret that could be swung
closed, OK. Anyway, OK, these are the...these are the
treads here...fenders rather, those are the fenders on
the sides, like that. And what the back end of it looks
like, I don't know, because actually I was looking down
at it from, you know, from above and behind, but not down
behind, OK.
#66 OK.
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#24.5 Now, if I had to ask myself what type of equipment this
was (laughter). I ought to draw a guy on 5 just to show
the scale. Well, as a matter of fact, I stood in front of
the muzzle and I went like this, right, so that means that
the muzzle is about that high off the ground, OK, which
doesn't really mean anything. But the whole situation,
the whole feeling was that the top of this bloody thing
was just like I could look...you walk up next to an M60
you can't see up, you gotta climb up on it to see the top
of it, right, cause it's body is head high, alright, it's
chassy. This, the chassy was about chest high, so I could
look down on top of the tank, OK. So, a person standing
here is...there, that's more like it. It was about that
high cause I held my hand up like that, OK. If I had to
put a label on it, I would say PT76, OK. And, of course,
that's...that's darkened in there cause it's hollow. I
didn't see that, OK. Now...
#66 Do you have a feeling for how many...ah...you saw?
#24.5 Not that...how many, but that I did have the feeling that
the motor park was crowded, it wasn't empty. OK, I had
the feeling that this equipment was returned home from
exercise, and that...ahm...and there wasn't...you know,
the motor park was not vacant, there were vehicles parked
in there. Like, I had the row feeling, rows of black
things, you know, row after row. OK, from the motor park
I drifted to the far side...I'll put little circles in here,
OK, here's from 1, here's 2, 3 is up in the air I guess,
2 and 3...2 and 3, OK, 4 is up in the air...ahm...with the
convoy and everything, OK, 5 series...the 5 series is down
here, and 6 is out here, alright. Ah...in...when I got to
the...what I thought was the back part of this thing, the
scene suddenly changed. I'll make this simple for #6.5's
benefit, I mean not simple, speedy is what I meant, OK.
#66 This will be Drawing 6 then?
#24.5 Yea, this is Drawing 6, OK. Here I am back inside the
wire, but in a different place, alright. That...the
outside wire was cool, just as before, in other words, I
could see out, and then it's just open...openess out here
for a distance, OK, but that the inside wire for some
reason had been masked off with a...I got the feeling of
a wicker work, I really had the feeling of wicker, OK.
You know how you take a reed and you bend one reed this
way and then you bend the other reed against it and you
bend one this way and you...0K, and that this was just a
very light...there was essentially a light coating of
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wicker...ah...in the fence, or against the fence, to
prevent vision all the way through and into the motor park,
but...so that the motor park would be masked off from...
from view from around side, OK. Of...of visual...visual
screening, OK, to block the inside and this is to the motor
park and this is outside, OK. OK, 6. I'll do another one,
7, cause I think that might have something to do with it.
Ah...here is, you know, a number of trucks, right, parked
against what is the back. There's a truck, believe it or
not that's a truck, OK, and there was something curvy
along a convex, a curve along the back of these vehicles,
OK, and that's what first brought my attention to going
out into the wire and looking at that thing close. That's
when I ended up between the wire. From a side view, it'ld
be like this, OK, here's vehicle like that, and there's
another one, and there's another one down the wire like
this, and here's this curvy thing, OK, behind them some-
where, and that goes all the way down like that, OK.
It's...you see what I'm talking about, and there's not too
much difference there, maybe a foot or two feet. You see
this curve here, that's what I'm talking about. I saw that
from...from this angle and then I went down and investigated
and I ended up out here and I looked back and there was this
screen thing, OK.
#66 OK. Divide that diagram in half and then label side view
and top view.
#24.5 Yea. OK, and this...this thing is that thing, OK, with a
big question mark by it. It's 6 feet tall, I mean, it's a
big thing, you know, first I thought it...when I got the
feeling of curve, I said there's something behind those
vehicles that are different, you know, it's...they've got
something hooked up to em. And whipping down there and it
looked like a big long plow, and the damned thing was
yards and yards and it just never quit, it was just this
large, and then I figured, well they couldn't be draggin
a plow behind them. That's when I popped out into the...
ah...rest of the fence. Alright, now for finally, finally,
finally, I'm on my way out, as I was drifting away...ah...
as I was drifting away, I had the feeling of this type of
a shape to the wire, and this will be No. 8, OK, and I'm
on the other side from where I entered, alright. Here's
building, building, building, motor park, the road, OK,
motor park, these are the buildings, OK, here's the water
tower, and the fence (mumble) guarded feeling, right, and
here's big building, OK, and that the contours of this
place of this wire went sort of like this, but that, in
fact, there were buildings all through it. That's just
towards the end of the session is when I began to get the
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feeling that I was in a very cluttered area and it wasn't
just three or four sparce buildings out there, OK, and I'll
just...and that, in fact, there were buildings all over the
damn place, OK, just one...one solid mass of buildings
through the right side of 8, OK. And, the only open part
of the facility that I felt would be down in this area here,
OK. I had the feeling like it was a driving range or rifle
range, open range, maneuver range, something like that.
OK, but these are all buildings. That's it.
#66 OK, anything else you want to add? How do you feel about
your imagery?
#24.5 I feel good. If I'm on target, I...I think I've got a lot,
OK. Ah...had some difficulty right at the beginning...
ahm...(mumble) noise, you know, that type of thing, sort of
found myself sort of drifting in and drifting out, you know,
everything...every time something would happen upstairs I'ld
bounce out again and I'ld say, OK, you know, relax, get down
deep again, get...you know, get deep. So, for the first,
OK, one thing I can tell you is for the first time I was
awake for your coordinates. I mean, I heard them. You
know, usually I bubble up to the surface enough to hear the
last couple words you say, you know, I never even hear the
other...hear them, don't consciously hear them, but this
time, it just happen you started reading the coordinates
at a time that I had bubbled up a little bit, you know, so
then...that's what took me so long is I just sort of put
them out of my mind and tryed to go back down, OK. Ahm...
#66 How many times did I read the coordinates to you?
#24.5 Once, that I know of. Once that I consciously know of.
#66 OK.
#24.5 So anyway, that's why it took me the other 5 or 10 minutes
or so, you know, was to...was to try to get back down and...
ah...other than that, I don't really have too much.
#66 OK, fine.
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