NOTES FROM THE TECHNOLOGY STEERING PANEL MEETING WITH RADM JOHN BUTTS, DNI/USN, ON 1 SEPT 83

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16 September 1983
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
FROM:
Planning and Policy Staff/ICS
SUBJECT: Notes from the Technology Steering Panel MeAtilm
with RADM John Butts, DNI/USN, on 1 Sept 8
2 0 SEP 1983
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1. The Technology Steering Planel (TSP) met with Rear Admiral John Butts
on 1 September 1983. The purpose of the meeting was to solicit his views on
future issues that the Intelligence Community will face (1985-1 im
and the Navy's plans for dealing with these issues.
2. Admiral Butts opened the meeting with a brief review o an
investment strategy recently completed by the office of the DNI. Copies of
the study have been requested and will be available for any panel member who
desires to review. The Admiral stated that a formal review process has been
established to au a the progress of implementation and provide any necessary
redirection.
3. Rear Admiral Butts then presented three areas that he believed will
pose serious and continuing problems for the Intelligence Community.
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 DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY
WASHINGTON. O.C. 20301
ATTACHMENT 1
General Defense
Intelligence Program
S-056/83 22 April 1983
MEMORANDUM FOR THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE
SUBJECT: Joint National Intelligence Dissemination System (JNIDS) (U)
(5)"The Joint National Intelligence Dissemination System (JNIDS) is the
GDIP initiative to develo new analytical and collection management
tec piques and technologies to handle the intelligence data flood
ex ected in the mid-1980's I am providing this report because of the
mportance I attach to its success.
(5) These are the major elements of the JNIDS analytical R&D effort:
-- Build an intelligence information management system based on
approved ADP programs, such as SAFE, IAIPS, and SOLARS/IDHS-80.
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-- Determine the analytical and collection management potential of
emerging technologies, such as very large-scale integration, very high-
speed integrated circuits, optical readers, and artificial intelligence.
-- Develop a joint test bed to evaluate technology applicable to
processing, tasking initiation, cuing, cross-cuing, and interaction
between the processing system and data bases.
-- Focus initially on SLBM and SS-20 adaptive targeting.
Use real-world events to determine data level and flow and
apply the lessons learned to JNIDS development. For example, CINCLANT's
planned I&W demonstration against Soviet navy activity in June will be
extremely valuable if the Soviets include a strategic SSBN exercise.
-- When the groundwork has been done, probably in FY 86-87,
determine the features of the system and begin acquisition.
(U) DIA, the Military Services, SAC, and NAVINTCOM are collaborating on
JNIDS under the Director of Naval Intelligence, who is my executive
agent for the program. SA-is-an o server. Nine corporations, including
Westinghouse, and Lockheed, are participating with focused internal
company R&D that will lead to specific intelligence processing
applications. Academe is represented by Stanford, the Carnegie Mellon
Institute, and Yale.
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(U) Here is our current status: office out of
We have established a cadre program development
program memorandum of agreement is being expanded and
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technical survey. developed.
The initial project management plan is being
(S) For the near-term, we will concentrate on:
Establishing the formal program development office in FY 84.
-- Feasibility studies, starting in FY 84.
Applications for the Soviet 1983 Spring SSBN strategic
exercise. plan.
A base-line concept of operation and development A SSBN data base and data base management system to s. pPort the
focused analysis effort.
comfortable with the direction and progress that we have made.
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FY'83 ACTIVITIES
PRELIMINARY CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT
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20 September 1983
SUBJECT: Notes from the Technology Steering Panel Meeting with
LTG James A. Williams, Director, DIA, on
4 August 1983
The Technology Steering Panel (TSP) met with LTG James A. Williams, on
4 August 1983. The purpose of the meeting was to solicit LTG Williams's views
on future issues that the Intelligence Community will face (1985-1995 time
period), and the DIA's plans for dealing with these issues. The attachment
presents key points presented by LTG Williams d
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OLL4i,t 1
12 Sep 83
PRESENTATION TO THE TECHNOLOGY STEERING PANEL (TSP)
4 August 1983
LTG WILLIAMS HAS SEEN
13 SEP 1983
1. _(S) Dr. Waespy, Chairman TSP,'led off the introduction, stati he
purpose of the meeting, the composition of the Panel and specifics y
referring to the technological needs of HUMINT in the future, the problem of
bulk data processing and the uncertainty of what is required for waging
nuclear war in the future.
2. (U) LTG James A. Williams, Director DIA, discussed the following issues
with the Technology Steering Panel (TSP):
a. (S) The Director said that his primary concern is intelligence support
to Unified and Specified Commanders,corps, wings and fleet commanders.
b. (S) He pointed out that communications systems for support of intelli-
gence operations are extremely poor to the point that we cannot move current
data now, with current technologies, with any assurance of desired timeliness.
c. (S) Imagery support to commanders is difficult. While TACIES is
needed by both the Army and Marines, there is no available technology to
substitute for photo interpreters actually doing the read out. Magazine
quality imagery, ELINT from ITEP and tactical COMINT are needed out to 300 km
from FLOT on what can affect the commander within 96 hours.
d. (U) in addition, he made the following points:
(1) (S) Data bases are not sustainable in terms of people available.
(2) (C) While prioritization is necessary, this very action will
dampen third world collection and affect CENTCOM adversely.
(3) (S) The DIA INCA effort demonstrated that DCA is not being taken
into account with regard to communications support for intelligence; communi-
cations authorities are not being asked by intelligence authorities to provide
the necessary support. The Director cited the fact that there are 19 Signal
Battalion in Europe now and that we must move information without further
involving masses of people.
(4) (S) In the area of treaty verification, he said he is uncertain as
to the Soviet intent in their arms strategy; are they planning for ABMs that
can-be installed quickly; why are their phased arrays pointed towards Africa?
He also referred to CREEK FLUSH operations, stating that the NFIP needs 2/3 of
these for contingencies in support of commanders.
(5) (S) He mentioned the lack of support for the TR-1 sayjng that 35
is the stated need, the AF says 19 is the obtainable number, whil_ the real
requirement isnot known.
(6) (S) He questioned the value of PARAPSYCHOLOGY, asking whether or
not the Soviets could read the contents of safes, yet noting that while the
Soviets devote a large amount of assets, the NFIP treats it like a. stepchild.
He said that AF is expected to exert some help in this area.
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(7) (S) Drones should be investigated as worthwhile platforms in support
of collection operations.
(8) (S) ADP needs to lean forward and keep an edge on technology rather
than reacting to circumstances and events.
(9) (S) Counter intelligence support needs to be brought JDbear on
technology transfer of high tech data to the Soviet Union. Any substantial
curtailment would cut 5 years off their program while 50% curtailment would
seriously hurt them. The area needs political attention.
(10) (S) All weather, day night imagery is required.
(11) (S) The Army needs systems to assist in obtaining targets more
than 72 km from the FLOT, the present limit.
(12) (C) HUMINT, because it can answer questions that technology
cannot, requires rebuilding.
(13) (S) Support to the NCA in a nuclear war should be couched in
terms of "did we win or lose", status of resources and condition of the rest
of the world at the time.
(14) (S/CCO) He stated that NSA is having difficulty collecting data
because of new communications technologies and because the base of
interceptable traffic is being reduced. The Director said that more division
and lower level COMINT collection and analysis is required as the detail in
the analyses at these levels is very valuable in terms of determing
warfighting doctrine of our potential enemies.
(15) (S) On the question as to how technology should be handled
between the Services and CIA, the Director said it is extremely difficult, but
can be done. He then referred to FIST, TACIES, LOCE and other such projects
as areas of technological coordination between the Services that are working.
He said the influence of the DCI is low in this area. He mentioned his high
regard for the D-WIP. He said that R&D must support HUMINT and that search of
overt data, use of libraries and close touch with industries is useful in
improving R&D for HUMINT.
2. (U) The following members of the TSP and DIA were in attendance:
NAME
LTG J.A. Williams
William Schmitt
Fred Cirillo
Bruce T. Murland
S.A. Newton, Jr.
Jim Lynch
ORGANIZATION
DIA/DR
DIA/DT
ICS
DIA/DT WSSIC
DIA/DI
TTIC CIA/TTAC
STIC
C/JAEIC
C/FIC
DIA/DP-1
DIA/DP-1
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