STATUS OF S. RES. 400 SENATE DEBATE AS OF 1300 HOURS, 19 MAY 1976

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c Approved For cF ?-, \ Q _QJA-P,DIP. 1IIdA46600 0020011-4 19 May 1976 STATINTL MEMORANDUM FOR: Director of Central Intelligence Acting Legislative Counsel. SUBJECT a Status of S. Res. 400 Senate Debate as of 1300 hours, 19 May 1976 Executive Registry 1. On the oversight issue we are continuing to make some progress. a. Senator Nunn today engaged Senator Ribicoff in a colloquy in which Senator Ribicoff made the commitment that there is no intent through the authorization process to disclose CIA funds and that the funds will be disguised in an authorization bill, as they are currently in Appropriations bills. At this point, I don't have any details on how this will be implemented, but at least it is a commitment to keep our budget secret. b. On the Budget Committee point that Senator Bellmon spoke to you about, Senator Muskie asserted the right of the Budget Committee to have our figures (he is previously on record that he didn't want great detail - see attached), but has also made a commitment that he doesn't intend to disclose them. 2. So far so good. The only remaining point uncovered so far on which we are trying to have an impact concerns the primacy of jurisdiction issue so that other committees could not assert their right to information on matters which they claim is under their jurisdiction. We have been unsuccessful in getting any buyers on this point and if debate is closed without this clarification, we will have to rely upon a strong chairman and committee to stand tough on Acting Legislative Counse p` .Iq uquaftm this point with their colleagues. Approved For Release 2003/00444 A.LRDP7 k0046T 0 4UOb20011-4. STATINTL I Attachment ? Approved ForOeaW003/01/29: CIA-RDP79M00 6004 020011-4 CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY STATINTL 19 MAY 1976 ,4L,,A-? STATINTL Approved For Release 2003/01/29 : CIA-RDP79M00467A000400020011-4 Approved For0eaS003/01/29 : CIA-RDP79M0046.00902001 CHARLES H. PERCY s ? ILLINOIS ,ZCnifeb Sfafez 'Senate STATFNTL. Approved For Release 2003/01/29 : CIA-RDP79M00467A000400020011-4 Aare eo ea*0'3A Y-;a791%004600011020011-4 have had con?? 4`13-rabl ajsc'uoSiO 11 ii:.h '::Ile *icuse 1S Spending in t.21~. rae Years c nt of his time before Congress 50 ss::~~' { 10 j pending business on the F? oor Do" 'S we are trying ' o reduce the `r on L1iC. ' hies.. ea, "di a n' .epobt ng with Mr. Colby ~GL~~i3ra~ resolved ,( `tar question A So, I think that there is plenty of rcc t for additional staff co zideration. L4 5 Senator Percy. Fir. Chairman, could I ask you one 7 ;.estion related but unrelated? 3 It caaa tip yesterday In discuss ion With George Bush. o I Obviously, in the intelligence Oversight Committee, B ae : Cow4 tt s an w4 4,-b C DO c 3lCi uI' an:+1 W,-- tnux. a - - y L. 11 As I understand it, the ricA-a Intelligence ccournittee would 17 subxi v a budget for the ager_cy to the Budget Cc i ttee. What _ ; 9 T or preparing to CO-19 b? Q e CCU yY.~'s95 4 ul a nul itud' C.. 14 l cc.:~'asttees . We are trying to cut that dvenz . 21 would be the procedure of the Budgets COTzAttee, then, in call- Sew much detail would ..-the director of the agency before it? they need to gat into. et cetera? Se Bator Muskie. ^`o the extent that we get into major items in other -'unctions- We are not a li a-item came?ttee. He don't want to be, especially in this field. We do have to know ho.7 rtuch is involved overall and we do have to know how much is involved overall and we have to Approved For Release 2003/01/29 : CIA-RDP79M00467A000400020011-4 Approved For lea*003/01/29: CIA-RDP79M0046 00020011-4 r firnctioj s the du-qu:a...`'.a 's fa-I-7 , an Etc` C.2a5:ee- to 2 I1 what the major 'e:Ar t, is it We have prepared ri.~~?rse Ives fled information and to r and # e n.aven e t tr e3 La nintrude ourselves in the pro-ass of writing fi - C a ccw-ipro rise e We are relying on he Budg pct, which ;- osas on a vexy comet ::;.ee an obligation to report to "Us. others . - tt a - __ _ _ 1 v e o.v a.:.:L.X rj consideration of the _s tem. F icence cs i c'.s: than we are in tizs vr.'.:..6. ., ..?y Ithe~a '" "^_' ' o '"w,es r s_ n tie x.? ""t s of. ti'de' G.di~Cr 12 ! intel_igence effort, then it ~. that ~.. ? a r t ec 2:.3 to 7tDiu , o.Tes Kr.Gatt , i s H vv i_no:>J :is t.. T4 that it would Sena'- or ercy r i I Culd 'g.{the a ~~ t. t -s S a~.%asLsLzi over to My office as quickly as rossibie, I wil? I/ jt-~-ansi it that as the bas ~.. respor- Gee can get from L. Bush at 1 th s tithe I thank the. Chairmazi. Senator Glenn. -~n. ' 1,L,-. Chairman, r=aves? Senator Percy, I tv.ink you have enough to vote it out. Z3 l M . From. We have enough. j-Lr?:e i..-'. : ha:~ - e n ad. Sena 4o- Percy. S ~. ~- . stay, and my proxy uiApr,q#e FqR~ 2003/01/29: CIA-RDP79M00467A000400020011-4 that , s and it S-, IOU sC be pi o ected in the s: e way `i be protected in 'tie L .el i i c'enoe co mtee itself i~ Approved F lease 2003/01/29: CIA-RDP79M00S000400020011-4 r Comparison of S. Res. 400 and H.R. 1224 (Pike Resolution) These two Resolutions are extremely similar. It is obvious that Pike adopted the bulk of S. Res. 400 making the changes necessary for a House Committee rather than a Senate Committee and changing a few sub- stantive provisions of the Resolution. Following are the differences in the. two: 1. The Senate Committee is labelled a "Select Committee" while the House Committee would be a standing Committee. As a Select Committee, the Senate Committee is not subject to the rules applicable to standing committees. The proposed standing committee of the House would be subject to the rules applicable to the other standing committees, including XI, 2 (e) (2) which gives all Members access to all committee records. The Senate Committee has other attributes of standing committees, e.g. permanency, legislative authority, etc. 2. Membership of the House Committee would be 9 to 13 members, with no designated seats. (Senate - 15 members, plus.2 ex-officio, 8 designated seats) The Committee would not have a fixed majority-minority ratio, but would reflect overall House membership. (Senate - 8 majority, 7 minority) The House Resolution adds "the Committee membership should reflect a broad representation of political and philosophical views. n (Senate - no such language in the Resolution, although Mansfield expressed this intent). There is a six-year maximum term of service. (Senate - 8 years) Staff are limited to six years employment. (Senate - no limit) There is no Vice Chairman. (Senate - ranking minority is Vice Chairman) Approved For Release 2003/01/29 : CIA-RDP79M00467A000400020011-4 Approved For ease 2003/01/29: CIA-RDP79M004 00400020011-4 3. The jurisdiction of the House Committee would be identical to the Senate Committee, except that authorization bills would not be subject to sequential referral. (I believe this would give us greater budget secrecy problems.) 4. The reporting responsibility of the head of each department or agency to keep the Committee fully and currently informed and to furnish. information or documents in the agency's possession are not labelled "sense of the House" provisions. 5. Of the nine points to be the subject of a special study by the Senate Committee, the House Committee would only undertake a study of five of these and with no deadline for completion of this study. (Senate deadline is 1 July 1977) Approved For Release 2003/01/29 : CIA-RDP79M00467A000400020011-4 ROUTING AND RECORD SHEET irector'. SyC ase ID USE ONLY UNCl11SSIFIED 8 June 1976 ^ SECRET STT T.I-RTVTI OFFICER'S I COMMENTS (Number each comment to show from whom INITIALS to whom. Draw a line across column; offer each comment.)' Representative Pike has introduced a resolution':;to, establishi` charter extremely similar to the charter of the new Senate Select Committee I thought .you: might be..- , .interested in the attached.compariso of S . Res. '400 and thellPike resolutio