MINUTES OF COMMITTEE ON IMAGERY REQUIREMENTS AND EXPLOITATION MEETING M-52, 17 OCT 1968

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• Publication Date: October 17, 1968
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COMMITTEE ON IMAGERY REQUIREMENTS AND EXPLOITATION
NRO & USAF REVIEWS COMPLETED COMIREX-M -52
17 October 1968
The following is an index of the Minutes of the 17 October
1968 COMIREX Meeting:
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Special Briefing I - FTD Methodology for Analysis
of Photography
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Special Briefing II - Determining Required
Characteristics of Imagery
for Mensuration
Section I (Approval of Minutes, Briefings, and Reports on Operations)
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9 Approval of Minutes
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9 Operational Briefing--Satellite
12 Report on Aircraft Activities--Far E
14 Report on Aircraft Activities--Cuba
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Section II (NPIC Report)
Page 15 Mission Highlights
Section IV (Action Items)
Page 17 Need to Emphasize Coverage of China with Next KH-4
Page '17 Project ARGO--Satellite Coverage to Assist AID
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Section V (Status of Recent COMIREX Papers
Page 18 Guidelines for First- and Second-Phase
Reporting (COMIREX-D -31.1 / 2)
Page 18 Geographic Coordinates Problem (COMIREX-D-30.2/2)
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Mr. L. A. Moyer, Jr., State
Col. C. C. Clayton, OA-CSI
Capt. S. E. Sloan, ONI
Mr. E. H. Manley, OACSI
Lt. Col. L. B. Pollard, OACSI
Mr. J. C. St. Cyr, OACSI
Mr. B. E. Hultz, F'I'D
Mr. McPeak, FTD
Imagery Collection Requirements Subcommittee
Ch/Imagery Exploitation Subcommittee
Exploitation Research and Development
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Tonal Imagery Data Base Working Group
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FTD Methodology for Analysis of Photography
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1. The Chairman introduced Mr. Hultz and Mr. McPeak,
reminding COMIREX that the briefing to be given by Mr. Hultz
was intended to complement presentation of the
week before. Mr. Hultz introduced his brie ling with an illustrated
description of the methodology employed at FTD. Mr. Hultz
emphasized that at FTD one man is responsible for producing the
photo analysis report and providing the required detailed or engineering
drawings from the photography and mensuration of the photography.
Mr. Hultz provided considerable information on the parameters of
the various equipments, the accuracy, how the information is trans-
mitted to the computer, how it is codified, and how it is typed out at the
terminal. Mr. Hultz noted that the whole process from computer to
print-out at the terminal is accomplished in about eight seconds and
that it is possible to have about 25 type-out machines at the terminal.
In further depicting what is accomplished by the analysts /computer
team, Mr. Hultz observed that the FTD emphasis is on maximum
automation compatible with accuracy and efficiency.
2. A succession of photographs accompanied by the
engineering drawings or information used in making these drawings
was presented by Mr. Hultz. The presentation emphasized not
only the benefits of high resolution photography but the ever increasing
efficiency of the analytical process. Mr. Hultz showed how the
eminent knowledge of electronic components was made use of by
those responsible for countermeasures. He concluded this section
with comments as to how FTD had made use of the metric trap in
analyzing parade photography. In terms of the future Mr. Hultz
showed a picture and described a cathode ray display console.
This console will provide not only a rapid display but fine detailing;
from it, it should be possible to do editorial work and subsequently
produce hard copy.
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3. In reply to a question from the Chairman as to
how the FTD techniques compare to those at NPIC as presented
by Mr. Hultz observed that FTD is turning more
and more towards the analytical approach. He admitted that,
while the analytical approach is used primarily for aerial photography,
the orthographic has been the methodology used principally to
analyze hand-held photography. Mr. Hultz emphasized that while
the FTD approach is becoming more analytical it does take advantage
of graphical inputs. Members were reminded of the early phases of
the briefing, the variety of equipments used including those developed
especially for FTD, and the general emphasis on automation.
Determining Required Characteristics of Imagery For Mensuration
4. refaced his briefing by noting
that the preceding presentations by of NPIC and 25X1A
Mr. Hultz of FTD have established a broad understanding and
appreciation of how mensuration tasks are performed on imagery.
However, the problem that faces the community is to determine
what mensuration tasks must be performed and what type of
imagery must be collected to allow for their satisfaction. Within
this context, I felt it was incumbent to understand
and appreciate the steps necessary to arrive at a well reasoned
answer to the question: "What are the required imagery characteristics
to allow for satisfaction of mensuration requirements?"
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7. Following some further discussion and elucidation,
the Chairman summarized his feelings in terms of the urgent
need for better dialogue between the intelligence analyst and the
imagery exploitation elements who have been measuring everything
from rivets to airfields against a general request to "provide
measurements as accurately as possible". urged
that the EXSUBCOM do everything possible to further mutual
education and produce meaningful EEI's for mensuration.
also emphasized the imperative need for explicit
requirements. The Chairman concluded by again strongly urging
that priority be given to achieving agreement on the target
delineation form as one of the principal contributions to developing
meaningful EEI's for mensuration.
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Section I (Approval of Minutes, Briefings, and Reports on Operations)
Approval of Minutes
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1. COMIREX-M-49 and M-50 were approved subject
to changing M-50, page 20, lines 1 and 2,as follows:
Line 1 -- add "under" prior to the word "developed"
Line 2 -- strike the word "under"
Operational Briefing -.-Satellite
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2. Satellite oner;iticms and schedule as of 17 October
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1105 - Scheduled 30 October 1968
Estimated 1st bucket recovery (9 days) - 8 Nov, 2230Z
Estimated 2nd bucket recovery (9 days) - 17 Nov, 22302
Film processing/distribution:
Estimated arrival 1st bucket at Eastman Kodak -
9 Nov, 18002
Estimated arrival 1st bucket Priority 1 in D. C. area
12 Nov, 160O Z
Estimated arrival 1st bucket Priority 2 in D. C. area
13 Nov, 160O Z
Estimated arrival 2nd bucket at Eastman Kodak -
18 Nov, 1800Z (Processing to begin 21
November at Eastman Kodak)
Estimated arrival 2nd bucket Priority 1 in D. C. area
24 Nov, 160O Z
Estimated arrival 2nd bucket Priority 2 in D. C. area
25 Nov, 1600Z
Projected stereo coverage:
1st bucket - Land area - 2. 75 million sq. n. m.
Targets - Approximately 2, 400
2nd bucket - Land area - 2. 75 million sq. n. m.
Targets - Approximately 2, 400
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1106 - Scheduled 11 December 1968
Estimated 1st bucket recovery - 18 Dec, 2230Z
Estimated 2nd bucket recovery - 26 Dec, 2230Z
Film processing/distribution:
Estimated arrival 1st bucket at Eastman Kodak -
19 Dec, 1800Z
Estimated arrival 1st bucket Priority 1 in D. C. area
22 Dec, 16002
Estimated arrival 1st bucket Priority 2 in D. C. area
23 Dec, 16002
Estimated arrival Zad bucket at Eastman Kodak -
27 Dec, 1800Z
Estimated arrival 2nd bucket Priority 1 in D. C. area
30 Dec, 1600Z
Estimated arrival 2nd bucket Priority 2 in D. C. area
31 Dec, 16002
Projected stereo coverage:
1st bucket - Land area - 2. 75 million sq. n. m.
Targets - Approximately 2, 400
2nd bucket - Land area - 2.75 million sq. n. m.
Targets - Approximately 2, 400
1049 - Scheduled 29 January 1969
Estimated 1st bucket recovery - 6 February 1969
Estimated 2nd bucket recovery - 14 February 1969
1107 - Scheduled 12 March 1969
Estimated last bucket recovery - 21 March 1969
Estimated 2nd bucket recovery - 30 March 1969
1050 - Scheduled 14 May 1969
Estimated 1st bucket recovery - 22 May 1969
Estimated 2nd bucket recovery - 30 May 1969
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Report on Aircraft Activities --Far East
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GIANT SCALE missions over North Vietnam during the period
11-17 October:
Mission Areas/Targets Remarks
13 Oct GS065 Cambodia
Operational test
completion
16 Oct GS066 Dien Bien Phu, Results unknown
Yen Bai, Tuyen Quang,
Nam Dinh, Vinh Rtes
10, 1A, RRs 4, 1
17 Oct GS067 Kien An Afid, Kep Afld, Aborted after
Dien Bien Phu Afld, one pas s
Hop Lac Afld
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4. reported that in the 11-17 October
period there had been live successful missions
and that one mission was lost. Details are given below:
Remarks
Date Mission Areas/Targets
12 Oct Q837 (low) Seg Rte 7A, NE RR, Successful,
yen Vien RR Yd, Gia recovered from
Lam Afid, Hanoi Port, water
Bac Mai
13 Oct Q21Z (high) Cam Pha Port, Hon Gai Successful,
Port, Hanoi, RR and Hwy recovered from
Hanoi-Haiphong, Haiphong water
Port
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13 Oct Q224 (high) Rtes 10, 1; RR Nam Dinh- Successful, MARS
Thanh Hoa; RR and Hwy
Thanh Hoa-Vinh, Vinh-DMZ;
Thanh Hoa Area, Ben Thuy
Port
15 Oct Q834 (low) Nam Dinh TPP, Nam Dinh Lost
Transp Pt., Set RR 4,
Phu Ly RR Yd, Bai Thuong
Afld
17 Oct Q715 (low) Thanh Hoa Transp Pt., Successful, MARS
Thanh Hoa RR Bypass,
Bai Thuong Afld
17 Oct Q245 (high) Bac Mai Afld, Gia Lam Successful, MARS
Afld, Hanoi Complex,
Yen Vien RR Yd, Phuc Yen
Afld, Kep Afld, Hon Gai
Port, Cam Pha Port
Successful 5
Lost 1
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5. reported coverage obtained of
selected South China and North Vietnam targets and areas as
follows:
a. Coverage of Lines of Communications (LOC)
pertinent to the introduction of Chinese forces into North
Vietnam (see COMOR-D-25/207, 4 March 1966). The
number of LOC priority targets in South China and North
Vietnam decreased to 142 with the deletion of Nan Ning
Airfield. For the period 10-16 October, surveillance
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coverage was reported on two priority targets in South
China and eleven targets in North Vietnam. The specific
targets are underlined in Tab A.
b. Coverage of North Vietnam to detect the
possible introduction or deployment of offensive missile
systems (see COMOR-D-25/200, 23 May 1967 and
COMIREX-D-25. 3/2, 20 November 1967) is shown on the
grid map at Tab B for the period 3-9 October. One
and considered successful but has not been reported. No
SSM activity was observed.
(mission was flown during this time frame
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for the 11-17 October period as followm-
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Successful, 20. 9% coverage
Date Mission Net Cumulative
4 Oct G045 20. 5% 43. 7%
11 Oct G046 20.9% 57.9%
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7. noted that for the 56-day period be-
ginning 22 August 1968, seven missions were flown
over Cuba and provided 84 percent coverage of the area. During
this period 137 of the 162 targets in Cuba were covered completely
on cloud-free photography, not including the most recent mission on
11 October 1968.
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