MINUTES OF COMMITTEE ON IMAGERY REQUIREMENTS AND EXPLOITATION MEETING M-43, 11JUL 1968

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11 July 1968
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The following is an index of the Minutes of the 11 July 1968
COMIREX Meeting:
Page 4 Special Briefing - New Dry Film Processing Concept
Section I (Approval of Minutes, Briefings, and Reports on Operations)
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Approval of Minutes
Operational Briefing--Satellite
Report on Aircraft Activities--Far East
Report on Aircraft Activities- -Cuba
Section II (NPIC Report)
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Mission Highlights
Section III (Subcommittee and Working Group Reports)
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Report from Imagery Collection Requirements Subcommittee
Section IV (Action Items)
Page 17 Discussion of Revised Requirements for Satellite
Photography for Mapping and Charting
Page 17 Adaptation of 1104 to Short-Arc Technique for
Positioning Accuracy
Page 18 Requirement for Coverage of Santiago, Cuba, with the
"H" Camera
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Section V (Status of Recent COMIREX Papers)
Page 19 FY 1969 Requirements for Third-Phase Basic Reporting
(COMIREX-D-31. 4/18, 19, and 20)
19 Overhead Imagery Reconnaissance of North Vietnam
During a Truce (COMIREX-D-25.3/4)
20 Planning Use of USA Standard Code for Information
Interchange (ASCII) (COMIREX-D-32.2/3)
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VI (Other Business)
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Review of
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1047 - Launched 20 June, 21452
First bucket recovered - 29 June 1968, 0034Z
Second bucket recovered - 5 July 1968, 2322Z
Film processing/distribution:
Arrival 2nd bucket at Eastman Kodak - 6 July 1968,
1545 Z
Estimated arrival 2nd bucket Priority 1 in D. C. area -
11 July 1968, 0100Z
Estimated arrival 2nd bucket Priority 2 in D. C. area -
12 July 1968, 0100Z
1104 - Scheduled 7, August 1968
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Estimated recovery 1st bucket (8 days) - 16 August, 0030Z
Estimated recovery 2nd bucket (7 days) - 23 August, 0030Z
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Film processing/distribution:
Estimated arrival 1st bucket at Eastman Kodak -
16 August, 1800Z
Estimated arrival 1st bucket Priority 1 in D. C.
area - 19 August, 1600Z
Estimated arrival 1st bucket Priority 2 in D. C.
area - 20 August, 160O Z
Estimated arrival 2nd bucket at Eastman Kodak -
23 August, 18002
Estimated arrival 2nd bucket Priority 1 in D. C.
area - 26 August, 16002
Estimated arrival 2nd bucket Priority 2 in D. C.
area - 27 August, 16002
Projected stereo coverage:
1st bucket - Land area - Z. 95 million sq. n. m.
Targets - Approximately 2, 400
2nd bucket - Land area - Z. 95 million sq. n. m,
Targets - Approximately 2, 400
1048 - Scheduled 18 September 1968
Estimated recovery 1st bucket (8 days) - 27 September, 0030Z
Estimated recovery 2nd bucket (8 days) - 5 October, 0030Z
Film proc es sing/ distribution:
Estimated arrival 1st bucket at Eastman Kodak -
27 September, 18002
Estimated arrival 1st bucket Priority 1 in D. C.
area - 30 September, 16002
Estimated arrival 1st bucket Priority 2 in D. C. area
1 October, 160O Z
Estimated arrival 2nd bucket at Eastman Kodak -
5 October, 18002
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Estimated arrival 2nd bucket Priority 2 in D. C.
area - 9 October, 16002
Projected stereo coverage:
1st bucket - Land area - 4. 15 million sq. n. m.
Targets - Approximately 3, 000
2nd bucket - Land area - 4. 15 million sq. n. m.
Targets - Approximately 3, 000
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3. In reply to a question from the Chairman as to why
has slipped, advised that payload checkout
problems have been encountered.
Report on Aircraft Activities --FarEast
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4. I confirmed continued
standdown of IDEALIST/TACKLE and flights over
China. I advised one GIA mission flown
between 4 and 11 July to be as follows:
Date Mission Area/Targets
4 July GS035 Hon Gay Port Fac/Cat Bi Afld/ Fair
Gia Lam Afld/Phuc Yen Afld/
Yen Bai Afld/Dien Bien Phu Afld/
Lau Chau Complex/Kep Afld
5. reported the following
activities in the 4-11 July reporting period:
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Date
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Areas/Targets
4 July
Q225
Rt e 15 from 2046N10505E to
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1918N10534E/Coastal Hwy Rte
IA, DMZ
Nam Dinh - Thanh Hoa RR,
Successful,
5 July
Q812
Nam Dinh TPP, Ninh Binh RR
Bridge, Thanh Hoa Trans-
Shipment Point
Rte IA Ninh Binh - Hanoi, Bac
MARS
Did not return
Q716
Giang Complex Kep Afld and
RR Yd
DMZ; Hwy 101 from 17N10656E
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7 July
Q809
Bac Mai Af1d/Gia Lam Afld/
In water; film
8 July
Q226
RR Seg 3A /Go Trai RR Bridge,
Nam Dinh Transshipment Pt,
TPP and RR Yd
Hon NE Isle/Beach Ship
status unknown
Successful,
MARS
Successful,
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Q226
Seg Hwy lA/Vinh Afld/Seg Hwy 101
Same as above
Successful,
Recovered - 5
Lost - 2
Undetermined - 1
MARS
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a. Coverage of Lines of Communications (LOC)
pertinent to the introduction of Chinese forces into North
Vietnam (see COMOR-D-25/207, 4 March 1966). The
number of LOC priority targets in South China and North
Vietnam remains at 142. For the period 4 July-10 July
1968, surveillance coverage was reported on 10 priority
targets in North Vietnam. The specific targets are
underlined in Tab A.
b, Coverage of North Vietnam to detect the
possible introduction or deployment of new weapons systems
(see COMIREX-D-25. 3/2, 20 November 1967). The area
coverage reported obtained between 4 July-10 July 1968
consisted of four GIANT SCALE and five
6. reported action against two priority
South China/North Vietnam targets as follows:
missions. The coverage is shown on the grid map at Tab B.
No SSM activity was observed.
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Report on Aircraft Activities--Cuba
7. reported on el I flight in
the 4-11 July period and supplied the following recapitulation:
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5 July
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The current reporting period extends from 10 June 1968
through 4 August 1968.
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8. Ireported that for the 56-day period
beginning 16 May 1968, six missions were flown
over Cuba and provided 90% coverage of the area. During this
period 139 of the 149 targets in Cuba were covered completely on
cloud-free photography, not including the most recent mission.
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Section II (NPIC Report)
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Mission Highlights
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1. provided COMIREX with some high-
lights in recent missions as follows:
b. Mission 1047 showed two new airfields, con-
structed since June 1967, close to the Sino-Soviet border.
Kardsuat has a runway 10, 400 feet in length, the Omirlik
runway is 8, 685 feet, No aircraft were observed at
either airfield.
c. Semipalatinsk. FIDDLER aircraft were
identified by Mission 1047 at Semipalatinsk. This is the
first identification of FIDDLERs at this airfield and seven
were seen.
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Section III (Subcommittee and Working Group Reports)
Report from Imagery Collection Requirements Subcommittee
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noted that there has been an overall improvement in coverage
against the Far East requirement, see Tab C,
I eported as follows:
b. In commenting on the status of collection
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with the exception of North Korea. Since thel
missions lave been discontinued coverage has fallen off.
c. A revised version of the Target Nomination
Form is being distributed to ICRS for comment.
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Discussion of Revised Requirements for Satellite Photography for
Mapping and Charting
1. The Chairman distributed a revision of COMIREX-
D-15. 2/8 and provided members with background as to what had
gone into the revision. 1 ::1 explained that one problem
that had been surfaced was a misunderstanding of the M&C require-
ment This had prompted the Chairman to request
the MCGWG to make a new study of its requirement, with particular
emphasis on what might be needed when the fulli ystems 25X1A
became available. commended MCGWG on an
extremely thorough job, which had resulted in publication of
COMIREX-D-15.2/8. This paper had been concurred in by all
members with the exception of CIA. The Chairman now hoped
that the new and abbreviated approach would be accepted as more
to the point and less susceptible to differences in interpretation.
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Adaptation of 1104 to Short-Arc Technique for Positionin Accura
2. A thorough discussion of various ways and means of
launching and operating 1104 to assist in the improvement of
positioning accuracy through application of the short-arc techniques
were concluded with a request from the Chairman that NRO supply
NPIC with specific information on the slit widths which would be
needed. I requested that NRO do this within a time
frame which would then permit NPIC to advise what degradation to
interpretability and loss of resolution would result from the
recommended slit widths. Based on this information the Chairman
would consult other members as necessary and would provide NRO
with a decision, by noon on 12 July, as to whether to fly the short-arc
mission.
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3. The discussion did show that in the present time
frame favorable consideration of launching and operating 1104
for the short-arc experiment was militated against by a priority
requirement for KH-4B quality photography of North Korea and
the need to obtain as much coverage as possible of Soviet strategic
weapons systems, both offensive and defensive. Despite the
realization that 400 SIOP targets are estimated to be more than
750 feet away from the locations presently plotted, and the SAR
could improve this accuracy to better than 500 feet, the improve-
ment of these targeting accuracies appeared to be of a lesser
priority than the development of hard intelligence in the current
situation. The Chairman noted also observation
that SAC really wants 450-foot accuracy an needs is by mid-1969.
speculated that while 1104 would be the last chance
this year, it would appear that the mapping and charting community
might be able to plan a better mission next year. Various new aids to
positioning accuracy have been discussed and might be of real benefit
in approaching the SAC requirement.
system is not specified such as the "H" Camera System. A cut-off
date after which required solar conditions will no longer exist for
1968, is being determined by the requesting agency and will be
provided the operator for mission planning purposes.
in Cuba with one foot or better resolution. A specific camera
the requirement of coverage of the Santiago Camp Bunker
Requirement for Coverage of Santiago, Cuba, with the "H" Camera
4. dvised that the ICRS has reaffirmed
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FY 1969 Requirements for Third-Phase Basic Reporting (COMIREX-D-
31. 4/18, 19, and 20) (S)
1. The Chairman, EXSUBCOM, noting that the majority
of the basic reporting requirements have now been assigned, requested
the support of COMIREX principals in having their organizations
develop estimated reporting schedules in response to the requirements.
COMIREX agreed readily to further suggestion that
the organizations develop their estimated reporting schedules in
quarterly increments rather than for the entire year. COMIREX
approved the assignment of the requirements tabled for consideration.
Overhead Imagery Reconnaissance of North Vietnam During a Truce
(COMIREX-D-25.3/4)
2. The Chairman commented briefly on the revisions
made to the previous report and requested COMIREX comments on the
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t=.vee-- e and. made recommendations, which-h$ " not been requested.
The CIA member agreed that the tone of paragraph seven could be
changed and revised into an objective summary of the preceding comments.
invited both the Department of State and CIA members to
submit proposed changes to him.
3. The Chairman was disinclined to disregard pertinent
aspects of future operations, such as the pressing need for reconnais-
sance below the cloud cover. Evasion of this issue could result in a
deceptive report. In response to a speicifc request from the DIA
member, ostponed further discussion of this paper until
18 July.
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4. In reply to the doubts of
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problems which might be associated with standardization of the
ASCII for communications, I pointed out that he did not
see the connection between the coding of computer language and
security. However, the data base security advisor was looking
into the problem of security and administration as it relates to
interagency exchange of magnetic tapes containing imagery
information.
5. 0 observed that actions precipitated by the
approval of ASCII had resulted in a need for a thorough community
exploration of the present use of computer code language in the
imagery information environment for a policy statement as to how
to conform to the new ASCII standard. COMIREX agreed that the
community must prepare eventually to bring data handling and
exchange in line with ASCII. In the meantime, however, members
regarded the approach outlined in the memorandum under con-
sideration as being logical in terms of avoiding disruption of present
systems and from an economic standpoint. The Chairman, DBWG
was authorized to continue in accordance with his proposal, including
maintaining an exchange of information and ideas on the subject with
the Chairman, IHC.
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