MINUTES OF CIA TRAFFIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING 27 NOVEMBER 1984
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Chief, New Building Project-Office,
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FORM 610 USE PREVIOUS
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COMMENTS (Number each comment to show from whom
b whom. Draw a line across column often each comment.)
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Enclosed for your files is a copy of the summary
minutes of the CIA Traffic Advisory Committee meeting held
on 27 November 1984.
Sincerely,
Chief, New Building Project Office
Office of Logistics
OL/NBP~ I(7 Dec 84)
Distribution:
Orig - Lilla Richards, MCA (w/enc)
Orig - Gloria Adams, Alt., MCA (w/enc)
Orig - Kent A Maxfield, Ad Hoc Cte (w/enc)
Orig - Patricia Blood, Alt., Ad Hoc Cte (w/enc)
Orig - John F. Byrne, GWMP (w/enc)
Orig - David Gehr, VDH&T (w/enc)
Orig - Donald Bozarth, NCPC (w/enc)
Orig - Shiva K Pant, FFCo Ofc of Trans. (w/enc)
1 - bcc H. M. Shaver, Jr., VDH&T (w/enc)
1 - bcc S. R. Conley, VDH&T (w/enc)
1 - bcc Nancy Bennett, Cong Wolf's Ofc (w/enc)
1 - bcc Nancy Falck, FFCo Supervisor (w/enc)
1 - bcc John P. Fowler, II, Dewberry & Davis (w/enc)
1 - DD/A (w/3 encs)*
1 - D/PAO (w/3 encs)*
x - D/OLL w/3 once)*
1 - D/OL (w/3 encs)*
1 - OL/NBPO (w/3 encs)* OL 2144-84
*Also OL 20531-84 and OL 20532-84
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Minutes of CIA Traffic Advisory Committee Meeting
27 November 1984
1. The seventh meeting of the CIA Traffic Advisory Committee was convened
at 3:00 p.m. on Tuesday, 27 November 1984. Attached is a list of attendees.
2. The Chairman opened the meeting by reviewing the history of actions
taken since the last Committee meeting, concluding that the purpose of this
meeting was to reach consensus on one of the two alternatives for Route 123
improvements. Committee members were then asked to discuss the positions taken
with respect to the two preliminary design options under consideration for
Route 123.
3. The positions taken by the McLean Citizens Association (MCA) and by
the Ad Hoc Committee were discussed first. The two organizations are in
agreement and in favor of a two-lane implementation of design alternative 2,
the at-grade option. Mrs. Richards, MCA representative, stated that action
would be taken to delete the third lane of Route 123 between Old Dominion and
the George Washington Memorial Parkway (GWMP) from the current County Master
Plan. She stated that the intent of this proposed lane is to serve as a
dedicated bus lane connecting with a similarly proposed lane previously
projected for the Parkway. Since the additional Parkway lane is not planned,
the addition of the third lane on Route 123 is not desired by the community.
4. Mr. Maxfield stated that the Ad Hoc Committee members were strongly
opposed to grading Route 123 for a potential third lane at the time CIA
improvements are implemented. Mr. Pant, Fairfax County, stated that the County
felt this was necessary so that widening could be quickly accomplished should
the CIA fail to meet the terms of the Traffic Management Agreement between CIA
and the Virginia Department of Highways and Transportation (VDH&T).
Mr. Maxfield replied that his view was that there were other options to be
looked at in the event traffic management does not work. Mr. Fowler, the
Dewberry and Davis consultant, stated that there was no significant cost
difference between completing the grading now or in the future.
5. The Chairman polled the other Committee members for their respective
positions. Mr. Byrne, GWMP, stated that the Park Service had no objection to
the proposed Route 123 improvements since they did not impact on Parkway
operations. He stated that design and construction of the improved exit ramps
from the CIA onto the Parkway is currently underway. On the subject of the
proposed lane addition at the Beltway/Parkway interchange, the Park Service has
concerns for the possible impacts of the added traffic that may result on the
Rosslyn portion of the Parkway.
6. Mr. Bozarth, National Capital Planning Commission representative,
stated that the Commission's only interest in the selection of a design
alternative is ensuring that a solution acceptable to all parties is achieved.
7. Mr. Gehr, VDH&T Northern Virginia District, stated that he felt his
local Office could support alternative 2, but he could not speak for VDH&T
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Richmond as they had not yet provided him with a position. He stated that no
State position could be taken until the environmental assessment is completed
in February.
8. Mr. Pant, Fairfax County representative, likewise responded that the
County position was not available and would have to await the environmental
assessment. He indicated that action of the County Board would be required
before a position is finalized.
9. The Chairman stated that CIA was willing to state that they support
the alternative 2 design in principle, subject to receipt of a favorable
environmental assessment.
10. Since both MCA and the Ad Hoc Committee have put forward stipulations
on the detailed design as part of their positions, Mr. Fowler was asked to
comment on the feasibility of the design features requested:
a. A berm with landscape buffering can be created between Evermay
section 7 and the Route 193 intersection with Route 123. While the exact
depth of the berm cannot yet be specified, adequate space will be made
available to provide the desired buffer.
b. The required realignment of the Route 123 lanes will result in
elimination of the grade difference between the two sides of the road that
now exists at Potomac School Road. It will also substantially provide the
grading required for the possible addition of a third lane.
c. While there is concern for the four laning of Route 193 at the
Route 123 intersection, Mr. Fowler stated that this is required because of
the additional turning movements created by the four-way intersection and
the correspondingly decreased green light time available for Route 193
traffic.
d. With respect to a requested traffic signal at Savile Lane, Mr.
Fowler stated that only VDH&T could speak to the issue. Mr. Gehr stated
that traffic engineering did not support addition of this signal. In
response to Mr. Maxfield's questions, Mr. Gehr stated that there were no
known administrative waivers available that would permit installation of a
signal where analysis indicated none is required.
e. Mr. Fowler stated that the signals at Route 193 and the CIA
entrance could be synchronized.
f. With respect to requests for sign and landscaping plans, Mr.
Fowler stated that the preliminary signing concept already provided was as
much as practically possible at this time. No landscaping concepts have
been developed, and not much detail would be possible except to point out
potential areas for planting.
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11. The Chairman stated that it had been hoped that a public information
meeting would occur during December. However, since neither VDH&T nor the
County would be able to provide citizens with a position at that time, it
appeared that the public meeting would have to wait until February when the
environmental assessment is available.
12. Community representatives stated that they saw no problem with
delaying the meeting and requested that one more Committee meeting be scheduled
to discuss the environmental assessment when available.
The meeting adjourned at 4:30 p.m.
Attachment:
List of Attendees
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Attendees
Seventh Meeting - CIA Traffic Advisory Committee
27 November 1984
ADAMS, Gloria A.
ANDREWS, Bob
BLACKMAN, R. H.
BLOOD, Patricia
BOYLE, Jim
BOZARTH, Donald
BYRNE, John
CONLEY, S. R.
DuBOIS, Joan
FARLEY, Thomas F.
GEHR, David R.
PANT, Shiva K.
RICHARDS, Lilla
Organization
McLean Citizens Association
Virginia House of Delegates
VDH&T (Environmental)
Ad Hoc Committee
Frank Wolf
National Capital Planning Commission
National Park Service
VDH&T - Richnond
Supervisor Falck's Office, Fairfax County
VDH&T - Northern Virginia
VDH&T - Northern Virginia
CIA
CIA
Fairfax County Office of Transportation
McLean Citizens Association
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McLEAN U I ILLNS A550CIAIION
Chairman, CIA Traffic Advisory Committee
New Building Project Office, 4E50
Washington, D. C. 20505
P. 0. BOX 273
McLean, rg n a ZZIUL
November 13, 1984
On motion of the MCA Transportation Committee, the McLean Citizens Association
Board of Directors at its November meeting approved the following resolutions:
A. Support of Alternative 2, the at-grade solution at the Dolley Madison
entrance, rather than Alternative 4, the grade-separated solution, with certain
conditions:
1. That the CIA build a short asphalt trail which would provide a connection
between the sidewalk on the south side of Route 123 and the trail which is to be
built on the north side of Route 193.
2. That the two-way section of Potomac School Road-extended be moved slightly
to the east to allow space for an earth berm and landscaping between it and Evermay
Section 7.
3. That the existing grade between the eastbound and westbound lanes of
Route 123 at Potomac School Road be equalized, to eliminate the slope of Route 123
at Potomac School Road which in bad weather is hazardous to school buses and others.
4. That a signal, synchronized with the signal at the main exit from CIA, be
provided at the double right turn to Route 123.
5. That the old eastbound pavement bordering Evermay and Clearview Manor be
removed and replaced with landscaping for noise control, except for a four-foot wide
strip of pavement paralleling the new eastbound lanes which would function as a trail.
B. Support of such amendments to the Fairfax Comprehensive Plan as may be
necessary to make it clear that Route 123 is to remain at four lanes plus turning
lanes east of Old Dominion Drive. (Note: The Plan presently shows the possible
addition of one lane in each direction for use by buses between the intersection
of Routes 193 and 123 and the bridge of Route 123 over the George Washington Parkway.)
I cannot close this letter without reporting that in the Transportation Com-
mittee, and at the Board meeting, there was unanimous agreement that we should
commend the CIA for its extraordinary effort to accommodate the concerns of its
immediate neighbors and the larger community. We look forward to the next meeting
of the CIA Traffic Advisory Committee, and to the Community Forum.
Lilla D. McC. Richards, Chairman
MCA Transportation Committee
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