SECURITY RISKS IN GOVERNMENT AGENCIES

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1954 Approved 2002/05/06: CIA-RDP78-0300 00600094 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE the mental health agency in each State to assume responsibility for the coordination of mental health training and research within the State's jurisdiction. A technical advisory committee, composed of scientists and educators in the field of mental health, cooperating with scientists in universities and industry, should be established in each State to advise and assist the mental health agency and other State departments con- cerned with the coordination of training and research activities. 6. State institutions which are not accred- ited for residency or as affiliate training cen- ters for psychiatrists, clinical psychologists, social workers, nurses, and other professional groups should receive support from gover- nors and legislatures in their endeavors to raise the level of teaching and supervision in their institutions to secure accreditation. 7. The States should provide stipends for graduate training in. the psychiatric field, should adjust salary scales, and should pro- vide educational leaves of absence so that State mental hospitals may compete effec- tively for the limited personnel available to fill treatment, teaching, and research posi- tions. 8. One of the important obstacles to ade- quate evaluation of procedures and thera- pies is a lack of uniformity in statistical methods in mental hospitals and clinics throughout the country. All States should cooperate with the United States Public Health Service and the American Psychiatric Association in the adoption of uniform ter- minology for statistical reporting procedures in the field of mental health. 9. Joint action by groups of States may provide one of the most fruitful means of attacking mental illness. This can be par- tially achieved by periodic regional mental health conferences, regional programs such as that now sponsored by the Southern Regional Education Board, and by active participation in the Interstate Clearinghouse now established through the Council of State Governments by request of the Governors' Conference. The clearinghouse, in coopera- tion with existing public and private agen- cies, will provide a medium for exchange of pertinent information among the States, will assist the States in organizing more effective mental health programs, and will help in developing interstate agreements so that groups of States can utilize to the fullest ex- tent existing training and research facilities. 10. State and community mental health organizations should play important roles in educating the public to the problems of mental health and to the methods of im- proving psychiatric services. The States should encourage and support mental health education in the schools, good relationships between hospitals and their surrounding communities, and the provision of adequate community psychiatric services. These may, in the long run, be most important in deter- mining the mental health of the Nation. Govs. C. Elmer Anderson, Minnesota; Edward F. Arn, Kansas; Frank G. Clement, Tennessee; George N. Craig, Indiana; Frank J. Lausche, Ohio; Wil- liam C. Marland, West Virginia; Rob- ert B. Meyner, New Jersey; Johnston Murray, Oklahoma; William G. Strat- ton, Illinois; G. Mennen Williams, Michigan. BIPARTISANSHIP IN THE FORMULA- TION OF MILITARY AND FOREIGN POLICIES Mr. LEHMAN. Mr. President, the Milwaukee Journal, one of America's great newspapers-a politically inde- pendent paper-published on March 21 military and foreign policies. This is a matter to which too little attention has been paid in recent months. Because of the importance of this editorial I ask that it be printed in the body of the RECORD. There being no objection, the editorial was ordered to be printed in the RECORD, as follows: IF IKE WANTS BIPARTISAN POLICY, HE BETTER CONSULT DEMOCRATS Both major political parties have consist- ently pledged that "politics stops at the water's edge"-that foreign policy must be bipartisan. Two things, however, currently threaten bipartisan foreign policy, and therefore weaken the country in facing its world problems : 1. There have been consistent attacks by administration speakers on past policy, which in fact was largely bipartisan and which remains basically the policy of today. 2. The Eisenhower administration has vir- tually ignored the Democratic Party in the field of foreign policy and military policy, which today is an inseparable adjunct of foreign policy. Attacks on past policies are, by Implica- tion, also attacks on top Republicans who helped create or carry out those policies. In- cluded in this group are President Eisen- hower himself and secretary of State Dulles, who were identified with the foreign policy of the previous administration. Yet attacks are made not just by the rabid fringe of the Republican Party. Vice President Nixon, for instance, charged the other night that Tru- man-Acheson policies resulted in turning 600'million persons over to the Communists (nobody has shown how it could have been prevented). Even the President has at times gone political to say nasty things about past policies in which Republicans played a big part. An example is the President's im- plication the other day that former Presi- dent Truman should have gone to Congress before fighting to save South Korea. There .was no time to go to Congress and Eisen- hower himself praised the decision at the time. 3637 under the Truman administration after the war. Truman usually rose above partisan- ship where defense and foreign policy were concerned. Under the administration preceding Eisen- hower's, Republicans held many of the Na- tion's top posts. Dulles, present Secretary of State, was ambassador at large and nego- tiated the Japanese peace treaty. Dwight Griswold, of Nebraska, headed the American mission to Greece. Warren Austin headed the United States delegation to the United Nations. Paul Hoffman headed the Marshall plan. Robert Lovett was Secretary of Defense, William Foster was Economic Cooperation Administrator, Walter Gifford was Ambassa- dor to Great Britain, John J. McCloy was German High Commissioner, Senator Van- denberg was a bulwark of strength behind foreign policy. There are many other names-Henry Cabot Lodge, John Sherman Cooper, Charles P. Taft, George W. Perkins, Charles M. Spof- ford, Paul H. Nitze, Thomas D. Cabot, Charles A. Coolidge high among them. In 1949 the late Senator Vandenberg said: "During the last 8 years, certainly, there has been a clear disposition on the part of the Executive to work in far more intimate co- operation and liaison with his constitutional partners in the Congress in respect to for- eign policy." There was consultation constantly with Congress. In some few instances, Republi- cans did not agree with subsequent policy, and in even fewer instances felt they had not been consulted enough. But, by and. large, they had full voice in both shaping and execution of policy. Today neither participation nor consulta- tion.exists. That lies at the base of current squabbling. It is responsible for the feeling of top Democrats that they are being ig- nored in foreign affairs and defense poli- cies-areas vital to them not as Democrats, but as Americans. It is responsible for growing cries for fuller explanations. The President is, as he says, President of all the people. He will succeed in foreign and military affairs only if he-consults with the representatives of all the people. He will succeed only if he returns to that old The President has appointed far fewer and sound thesis that in foreign and military of the opposition party to share the ad- affairs, policy must be bipartisan-in forma- ministration responsibility of policymak-\ ?tion as well as in execution. ing in foreign affairs and defense thaii/ Roosevelt and Truman did. The few Demur= crats Eisenhower has appointed are largely those who deserted their party in tie last election-such as Governor Byrnes, df South Carolina, who holds a United Natidns assign- ment as a Democrat. Further, the President has not consulted Democratic leaders-including those in Con- gress-in shaping major defense and for- eign policies. No Democratic Senators ac- company Dulles to international meetings, as Republicans used to accompany Dean Ache- son. No Democrats sat in on the New Look defense policy or Secretary Dulles' massive retaliation policy. The administration demands support for these policies-but apparently it must be blind support. When Adlai Stevenson ques- tioned the New Look, Defense Secretary Wil- SECURITY RISKS IN GOVERMENT AGENCIES Mr. CARLSON. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to have printed in the body of the RECORD a letter which I have received from Hon. Philip Young, Chairman of the Civil Service Com- mission, with reference to an article which appeared in the Washington Eve- ning Star of Last Tuesday. I also ask unanimous consent that the article it- self be printed. There being no objection, the letter and article were ordered to be printed in the RECORD, as follows: son brushed the questions aside with "I'm UNITED STATES too busy," and the statement that he saw no CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION, reason to listen. Washington, D. C., March 25, 1954. The President has irritably brushed Demo- cratic questions aside and the Vice; Presi- dent has called them divisive. If there had been bipartisan consultation, these ques- tions would have been more or less auto- matically' answered. Yet to date neither the Democrats nor the Nation have been given clear explanations of what New Look or mas- Hon. FRANK CARLSON, Chairman, Senate Committee on Post Office and Civil Service, United States Senate. DEAR SENATOR CARLSON: The Evening Star for Tuesday, March 23, carried an article written by Mr. L. Edgar Prina, which in- dicated that the General Services Adminis- tration in testimony before the House a lead editorial calling for a return to This ignoring of the opposition party, Appropriations Committee listed a total of bipartisanship in tl eWeWF I l~,[AERP 0857 1O&OOO4hat these were in- No. 56-7 3638 Approved r R*e 2002/05/06: CIA-RDP78-0 JWV CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -SENATE March 25 eluded in the total of 2,486 security risks which I submitted to your committee. You will recall that when I appeared be- fore the Senate Committee on Post Office and Civil Service I furnished to that com- mittee figures for each department and agency of the Government showing the num- ber of security risks that had been fired and the dumber which had resigned where there was derogatory information in the hands of the agency pursuant to section 8 (a) of Ex- ecutive Order 10450. That agency break- down shows for the General Services Ad- ministration 100 terminations and 50 resig- nations. The additional 18 which made up the total GSA figure of 168 were other types of separations, including deaths. These 18 were not included in the figures submitted to your committee or in the total of 2,486. I called this to the attention of the Eve- ning Star and on Wednesday, March 24, the Star printed a retraction and regretted its error. I attach a copy of the original story and the retraction for your information and that of your committee. Sincerely, PHILIP YOUNG, Chairman. DEAD PERSONS FOUND IN TOTAL OF 168 GSA SECURITY RISKS- ONE on Two DIED DURING INVESTIGATIONS-SUBVERSION HELD ISSUE IN 10 CASES (By L. Edgar Prina) General Services Administration's security risks include dead persons. This was revealed today with the release of testimony given by the GSA security chief to the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Independent Offices last month. Thus, 'a charge first made by the Star on January 3 and subsequently denied by Chair- man Young, of the Civil Service Commission, has been confirmed. In explaining to Democratic members who were digging into the 1953 GSA figure of 168 security risk separations, Baron Shacklette, Director of the agency's Compliance Division, said : "Those who were not terminated either voluntarily resigned or died or were caught In a reduction in force, or something of that nature." Representative COTTON, Republican, of New Hampshire, interrupted: "You aren't count- ing traffic violations in that total, are you?" "No, sir," Mr. Shacklette replied. "Arson, assault, burglary, crimes against the family and children, aggravated disorderly conduct, embezzlement, falsification of Government documents, forgery, gambling, homicide, lar- ceny, narcotic offenders, robbery, sexual per- version. At the end of December we had 17 cases of sexual perversion against whom we had issued security restrictions. Five rape cases." CORRECTION-YOUNG'S 2,486 TOTAL OF SECU- RITY RISKS INCLUDED No DEATHS Chairman Philip Young, of the Civil Serv- ice Commission, in a letter to the Star has pointed out that in testimony before the Senate Post Office and Civil Service Commit- tee concerning 2,486 security risks among Government employees he did not include dead persons in the 100 discharges and 50 resignations credited to the Government Services Administration. In a story printed in the Star yesterday it was stated that General Services Administra- tion security risks included dead persons and that this charge previously had been denied by Mr. Young. Yesterday's account quoted Baron Shacklette, Director of GSA Compli- ance Division, as testifying in response to this question from Representative YATES, Democrat, of Illinois: "You mean of the 168 there is included those who died while the investigation was going on?" "There were 100 terminations, 50 resigna- tions for their own reasons, and 18 separa- tions for other causes, among which there would be reduction in force and 1 or 2 deaths." Mr. Young in his testimony before the Senate committee stated that the 2,486 secu- rity risks included only those persons dis- charged or those who resigned where deroga- tory information was at hand. He presented a breakdown of the figures which included for GSA 100 discharges and 50 resignations. The 18 other separations referred to by Mr. Shacklette were not included. The Star regrets the error. ONE OR TWO DEATHS NEW MEXICO SENATORIAL Representative YATES, Democrat, of Illi- ELECTION nois, asked: "You mean, of the 168 there is included Mr. ANDERSON. Mr. President, dur- those who died while the investigation was ing the past few days I have received a going on?" - great many requests from New Mexico "There were 100 terminations, 50 reslg- for copies of the minority views dealing nations for their own reasons, and 18 sepa- with the Chavez-Hurley election con- rations for other causes, among which there test. So far as it is possible for me- to would be reduction in force and one or two do so, I intend to comply with the re- deaths," Mr. Shacklette replied. "I don't know exactly how many." quests and to send to all persons In testifying before the Senate Civil Serv- throughout New Mexico who request ice Committee earlier this month, Chairman them copies of the minority views. The Young denied that any deaths were included people of New Mexico have been very in the 2,486 risks separated last year through- much interested in the matter, and they out the Government. appreciate the thorough attention which In 10 of the 168 GSA cases there was "an was given to it by Members on both sides issue of disloyalty * * * or an issue of sub- of the Senate. I am going to send to res- version," Mr. Shacklette testified. He said idents of New Mexico, so far as it is pos- he did not think any one of the 10 was a Bible for me to do so, copies of the excel- excel- member of the Communist Party. lent brief prepared by the minority ARREST RECORDS CITED member of the subcommittee, the distin- Mr. Shacklette told the subcommittee that guished senior Senator from, Missouri 583 other persons had de ry information [Mr. HENNINGS]. I think it will be eos- in their files as of December mber 31 and 144 of the cases involved charges of disloyalty. All sible for the people of New Mexico who were pending further investigation or ad- read that fine report to obtain a very judication. satisfactory idea of the work which he, The security officer gave this explanation together with other persons, did in the of the high number.of security risk cases in preparation of the document. GSA, which employs same 27,000 persons: 1 t f 1 I hope the people of New Mexico will 4 th In B 1 a borin h REDUCTION OF EXCISE TAXES The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tem- pore. The Chair lays before the Senate The Senate resumed the consideration of the bill (H. R. 8224) to reduce excise taxes, and for other purposes. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, the Senator from Georgia [Mr. GEORGE] has asked me to announce to the Senate that he desires to be recorded against all amendments which may be offered to the pending measure except those which may be accepted by the chairman, the distinguished Senator from Colorado [Mr. MILLIKIN]. The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr: SCHOEPPEL in the chair). The bill is open to further amendment. Mr. KEFAUVER. Mr. President, I want to speak briefly today with refer- ence to a problem which is becoming acutely serious in my home State of Tennessee. It is concerned with the dairy-farm situation. Mr. MILLIKIN. Mr. President, will the Senator from Tennessee yield? Mr. KEFAUVER. I yield. Mr. MILLIKIN. Is the Senator ad- dressing himself to an amendment to the excise-tax bill, or to another subject? Mr. KEFAUVER. To another subject. Farmers in my State are experiencing the most drastic cut in income on rec- ord. Let me give the Senate an example. In January 1952 the farm value of a milk cow in Tennessee was $181. In January 1954 the farm value of that same cow had dropped to $96. Between those 2 periods total dairy herds in Tennessee had increased, in round numbers, by about 68,000 animals. But the total value of those herds had dropped by about $50 million. Thus, the total investment of the dairy farmers of Tennessee in herds alone has dropped $50 million in a 2-year period. That is the investment drop. What about day-to-day income? Here the picture is just as dark. . In 1952 condensery milk was selling at $4.98 per hundredweight. In 1954 the prospective price is $3.57 per hundred- weight. In the Knoxville market class I milk is. down '$1.40 per hundred pounds; in Memphis the drop is $1.28; in Knoxville it is $1.47; and in Chattanooga the drop -has been $1.29. Mr. President, this picture itself would be serious enough-a drop in inventory value of $50 milion in 2 years and a 20-percent drop in milk prices-but an even more serious blow is aimed at the dairy farmers of Tennessee-scheduled for April 1, in fact. The Secretary of Agriculture has an- nounced a drop in support prices from 90 percent of parity to 75 percent of parity as of that time. Mr. President, this amounts to an ad- ditional drop of 60 cents per hundred pounds of milk to the farmers. Mr. President, if anyone thinks the g ave a o o peop a We force. A large number of those people have be as interested in reading that report as dairy farmers of Tennessee are not con- arrest records." Approved For Release cerned It the problem, they should 68 %W5/06 : CIA-RDP78-03578A000400060009-4 Approved FS V2002/05/06': CIA-RDP78-0357 0c60009r4 CO GRESSI N ONAL RECORD - HOUSE 3771 In their April 28, 1948, report to the to Panhandle Eastern $165 million and $330 Commission in a dilemma from which the Senate and House, Commissioner Olds million. Court's January 18 change of mind has ac- and Claude. L. Draper summarized this Assuming that the fields will sustain pro- corded them at least temporary relief. Ac- control in these words: ' duction for 25 years, the group of 25 big cording to the Wall Street Journal of Janu- holders of the acreage could count on an, ary 19, 1954: 1. Phillips Petroleum Co. Is the largest additional $60 million a year, with a 5-cent `The Supreme Court's decision to grant holder of natural-gas acreage in each of the -increase and $120 million a year with a 10- a rehearing of the Phillips case brought a fields, with 20 percent of the Panhandle field cent increase, and this does not include fig- feeling of relief not only to the company and total and 15 percent of that in the Hugoton ures'for the much larger reserves in the the natural-gas industry generally, but also field. It holds nearly one-sixth of the com- gulf coast area of Louisiana and Texas, in to the Federal Power Commission. The FPC bined gas acreage in the two fields. which such corporations as Standard Oil of has been arguing all along that Phillips' sales 2. Stanolind Oil & Gas Co., a subsidiary New Jersey's Humble Oil, Electric Bond & should be regulated by the States, not the of Standard Oil Co. of Indiana, comes second Share's United Gas Co., and- the Chicago Federal Government, and it had been reluc- in the Hugoton field with 14 percent of the corporation have annexed great blocks of tantly preparing to take over a big new acreage, and Panhandle Eastern Pipe Line natural-gas acreage. regulation job.' Co. third with just under 10 percent. "This is a lifesaver for us," one high FPC t"`.`".:"" As far as Tea d e River Gas Co.) control more than half of the Panhandle field and, adding Texoma Natural Gas Co. and Cities Service Gas Co., we find five companies controlling nearly three-quarters of the acreage. 4. Seven companies (Phillips Petroleum, Stanolind, Panhandle Eastern, Republic, Cities Service, Northern Natural, and Skelly Oil Co.) control considerably more than half of the total Hugoton field, and, with the addition of 3 others, we have 10 companies in control of approximately two-thirds of the enormous acreage in that field, 5. Considering the combined acreage of the 2 fields, we find well over three-fifths of the acreage controlled by 10 companies (Phillips Petroleum, Stanolind, Cities Ser- vice, Canadian River, Shamrock Oil, Repub- lic, Northern Natural, Hagy, Harrington & March, and Skelly Oil.). It should be borne in mind that this analysis does not include acreage which sonde of these companies may control under long- term contracts, being limited to ownership of fee or leasehold. The table has been extended to show what increasing field prices will mean to the own- ers of these very large acreages. This ex- tension also gives some idea of what such increases will cost the gas-consuming areas over the life of the reserves. The extension of the table is based on the arbitrary as- sumption that the reserves are distributed throughout the acreage at about 7,500,000 cubic feet per acre which produces total re- serves closely approximating those presently estimated for the 2 fields. The probabil- ity is that these larger owners have taken up the better acreage so that the figures, if anything, probably underestimate the ad- vantages which will flow to them. On this'basis, the figures show that an increase of 5 cents per thousand cubic feet would add $2,100,000,000 to the potential income from the fields over their-life. Of this total, $1,616,450,000 would go to the dominant interests listed in the table. Similarly, an increase of 10 cents per thou- sand cubic feet would provide additional revenue over the life of the 2 fields totaling $4,200,000,000, of which $3,232,900,000 would go to the group of 25 large holders shown in the table. These amounts are without ad- justment for income taxes. For the pipe- line companies alone this would mean an increased take over the life of the fields of more than $1 billion. Small wonder that they have done their best to mobilize roy- alty owners, small producers, and representa- tives of the producing States in favor of a change in the Federal Power Commission's regulatory practice which will enable them to gather in such a rich reward for having bought gas reserves and leases at distress prices from-people who otherwise had no outlet for the gas. To the Phillips Petroleum Co. alone a 5- cent increase would mean ultimately about $390 million and -a 10-cent increase $780 million. To Stanolind the corresponding gains would be $225 million and $450 million; rates. The present Commission has been busy granting rate increases as fast as ti can handle them. Barron's maga- zine said last November 16: Another significant development during the third quarter of 1953 was the breakup of the log jam of rate increases pending be- fore the Commission, which at one time exceeded $200 million. In a recent speech FPC Chairman Kuykendall noted that the Commission as of October 19 had 51 rate cases still pending. One significant feature of the settlement of recent rate cases has been the evolution of the conference methdd of reaching an agreement, rather than long, drawn-out for- mal hearings. The negotiation, or confer- ence method was successfully used in recent rate cases involving 'texas Eastern Gas Transmission, which received two rate in- creases amounting to $30.8 million; Ten- nessee Gas Transmission for $77.9 million; and Texas Gas Transmission for $10.5 million. This brings me to the Phillips Petro- leum case and the following section from a Public Affairs Institute report: The case arose out of petitions by the cities of Detroit and Milwaukee, the county of Wayne, Mich., and the State of Wisconsin for an investigation by the Federal Power Commission of the reasonableness of rates at which Phillips Petroleum was delivering gas to Michigan-Wisconsin Pipeline Co. for resale to distributing companies in?Michigan and Wisconsin. The Commission, as a pre- liminary, undertook an investigation to de- termine whether it had jurisdiction to regu- late these rates. The case was undertaken at the time\yhen, following the United States Supreme Court decision in the Interstate Natural Gas 'Co. case, the natural-gas industry was moving' o amend the Natural Gas Act to excl d u e suc 15 minutes to the gentleman from Cali- sales from Federal Power Commission regu-' lation. The Commission with Chair- \fornia fMr. MOsS]. in 1951 , , man Buchanan dissenting, decided, after con- v, MOSS asked and was given per- tinued attempts to amend the act had failed, ssion to revise and extend his remarks that Phillip s Petroleum sales were a part of, ,and include extraneous matter.) or incidental to, its production and gather- ing of gas and, therefore, not subject t its regulatory jurisdiction. The Commission's decision was apjSealed by the representatives of the consuming areas and was reversed by the Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. The United States Supreme Court first refused to grant a writ of certiorari but has since re- versed itself and agreed to hear argument in the matter. This will lead to a final deci- sion as to whether, under the Natural Gas Act, sales of natural gas to interstate pipe- lines by Phillips Petroleum and other inde- pendent producers are subject to Federal Power Commission regulation. The Supreme Court's initial refusal to hear further argument in the case, thereby affirm- ing the decision of the lower court, was re- ported to have placed the majority of the was a horrible decision because it didn't give us any guideposts. Now we can hope for a ruling that'll give us some ground rules in the event we still end up regulating these sales." "Successful conferences" and "life- saver" announcements by the Supreme Court of the United States are words -that should be put down alongside those by Senator DOUGLAS, of Illinois. He told the other body on March 12 that it would be hard to tell whether the de- mise of the FFC's gas-regulatory power was a case of murder or suic}de. Any change from a cost to a fair field price base would make regulation of nat- ural-gas rates by the FPC an expensive fraud. It would be expensive for all tax- payers-note that the Commission is ask- ing $1,680,000 for regulation and surveys, natural-gas industry, this coming fiscal year. It would be expensive for natural- gas consumers-part of the money they pay for natural gas would be used by the pipeline companies to join in a little ritual before the FPC. It would be a fraud because there would be no regu- lation of rates if they were based on the fair field price, the highest monopoly price the traffic will bear. Far better we should discontinue the pretense that the FPC is regulating natural-gas rates. The consumer then would not be suffering the delusion that he is being protected against exploitation at the hands of natural-gas companies. Nor would we be calling upon our taxpayers to foot a $1,680,000 bill for meaningless little rituals next fiscal year. Mr. ANDRF,S. Mr. Chairman, I yield ing bill asks more than 151/2 millions for the Civil Service Commission. Of this amount, almost $3 million is for the Commission's work in carrying out the so-called employee-security program set up by Executive Order No. 10450 last year. Let me make it clear that I believe- and I am sure every Member of this body agrees with me-that we should have only loyal and trustworthy individuals in our Government service. I would not hire a Communist or a drunk to work for me, and I do not think the United States Government should employ such individuals either. The necessity of an No. 57- bproved For Release 2002/05/06 : CIA-RDP78-03578A000400060009-4. ~ Approver Fuse 2002/05/06 :CIA-RDP78- A400060009-4 '`Y 3772 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HODS March 29. adequate program to secure that objec- immediate legislative action to prevent Throughout he showed a complete de- tive is not and must not become a par- a recurrence of such infiltration. sire to frustrate me in the information tisan issue. I am confident that no one Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Chairman, - I was seeking. Before other committees in this House-on either side of the will the gentleman yield there? I think probably witnesses who refused aisle-will question the honest desire of Mr. MOSS. I yield to the distin- to give testimony have been accused of Members to thoroughly examine such a guished gentleman from Massachusetts. resorting to the fifth amendment. I vital program for the purpose of insur- Mr. McCORMACK. As I remember, wonder whether or not a similar com- ing its effectiveness and improving its the gentleman in the White House parison could be made with respect to procedures; and above all, keeping it frankly apologized to the American peo- Mr. Young. from becoming a political football. ple, admitting that he made a serious tlem Mr. MOSS. Ia would sabefory th Hg n. The previous administration set up the mistake. original Federal loyalty program in 1947 Mr. MOSS. I think it is to his great Committee on the Civil Service, if it had under Executive order No. 9835. In 1950, credit. He is the only one who has been before some committees of this the 81st Congress set up procedures for apologized. Congress, might well earn him that label. removing security risks from sensitive Mr. McCORMACK. It was the per- His first reaction to requests for infor- agencies such as the Defense and State sonal counsel of the President. mation was the astonishing statement Departments. The main feature of Ex- Mr. MOSS. That is correct. that he was "not interested in whether a exutive order 10450 was to extend the If it were not true, then equally vig- person was discharged for being disloyal security risk removal provisions of the orous action was needed to prevent con- or for being drunk." He next took the at- 1950 law to nonsensitive agencies such tinuation of a slur which was,reflecting titude that the Civil Service Commission as the post office. Since there was little unjustly on the loyalty of thousands of had neither the responsibility nor the new in this, we might have expected the patriotic Government workers. We authority to furnish information about the program to Congress. He implied in security program to continue working as have been trying for months to find out letter that no breakdown report on the quietly and effectively as it had done in whether any suspected. spies, saboteurs, a been made breakdown the National the past. traitors, or Communists have been un- aproogrityram had ad bebee but after National The announced objectives of Executive earthed in our Government and, if so, Order No. 10450 were to insure loyal and what has been done to remove them. questioning admitted under oath that a trustworthy employees in the Govern- To this day, the officials in charge of report and breakdown had been fur- ment, and to provide fair, impartial and the security program have been either nished to that agency as far back as equitable treatment for Government em- unwilling, unable, or under orders not October 22, 1953. He continually praised ployees. to furnish this information to the Mem- provisions in the 1950 law for protection No one could quarrel with the stated bers of Congress. of employees, without mentioning that goals of the President's security pro- under his administration very few, if Philip Young, Chairman of the Civil any, of those involved had been given an gram. But the noblest statement of Service Commission, is charged with a opportunity to use the provisions or even purposes is meaningless unless trans- major share of responsibility for the knew they were being charged with any- lated into action. And, unfortunately, operation of this program. He has been thing. in this case performance falls far short a particularly uncooperative and evasive Congress got practically no coopera- of promises. source of information. tion from the administration in its ef- rit is obvious by now that to d date, new secu- Mr. YATES. Mr. Chairman, will the forts to learn the truth, but many of the has utterly da administered aheve its a , gentleman yield? country's newspapers-many Republi- and Mr. MOSS. I yield to the gentleman can-performed a notable public service tised has y of failed t assuring to o fair, achieve impartial, and equitable treatment to Government em- from Illinois. in digging up the facts. And the facts ployees. And after months of effort, Mr. YATES. I should like to point show very plainly why the officials re- committees of this Congress have been out, in confirmation of what the gentle- sponsible for this "numbers game" do not unable to obtain the simplest and most man is saying, certain portions of the want it exposed to the light. basic information to reassure them that hearings on the Civil Service Commis- The fact is that supposedly responsi- the national security has been receiving sion before our Appropriations Subcom- ble administration officials have perpe- any better protection than have the rep- mittee; for dxample, on page 1018. I trated what, in my opinion, amounts to utations of our Federal workers. asked Mr. Young, who is Chairman of a deception upon the Congress and the The demoralization of the security the Commission, how many of the em- people. All the totals so far released of program had, its inception in the an- ployees who were considered security alleged "security risks" are inaccurate nouncement by the White House last risks had been investigated. He said he and entirely meaningless. October that 1,456 security risks had been did not know, his records did not indi- Executive Order No. 10450 and Public separated from Government under the cate. I asked him whether he would Law No. 733 provide mandatorily that new program, with the added statement supply it for the record and he said: persons accused as security risks must be that all but 5 were holdovers from- the I believe we would prefer not to, Mr. YATES, notified of the charges against them and previous administration. as part of the breakdown under this security given an opportunity to reply. If an in- I will not evaluate the intentions of order. dividual is a security risk, then he must those who made that announcement, but I asked the same thing on page 1024, be evaluated and removed under the pro- the Washington Daily News said edi- and he said that he did not have that cedures of the order. That is the only torially that "there can be no doubt that information compiled. possible way in which an individual can the idea was to use the security program I said: legally be declared a security risk. for political purposes." Can you supply it for the record? Philip Young has admitted under oath Spokesmen for the majority party that the great bulk of persons he calls promptly seized upon this announce- And again he said : security risks were never evaluated as ment as proof that 1,456 Communists or We would prefer not to, security risks at all, but left the Govern- traitors or subversives had been removed I asked him the same question sub- ment under normal civil-service proce- from Government jobs. Among their sequently in the record. I said: duets. As an example, Mr. Young claims spokesmen making this interpretation of that during 1953 he found 117 security the number 1,456 were a member of the Is there a relationship between the 3,200 risks in the State Department, 52 in the figure and the 2,200-figure announced by the Treasury Department, and 150 in the White House staff, a Governor, and at President of the United United States? ${1 least one Cabinet member. General Services Administration. t Like other Members of Congress who And Mr. Young replied: responsible officials from each of those are concerned with problems of our civil There might or might not be. agencies have testified during appropria- service, I was deeply disturbed by the I asked : tion hearings in direct contradiction that 1,456 announcement. If it were true ram asking now whether there is. during the same period they did not sep- that 1,456 spies or disloyal persons had arate one single individual as a security been found in our Government, then we And Mr. Young replied: risk under the full procedure set up by had a very serious sitt f.(5Vf Refed?SV ' 105/06 : CIA-RDP78-03 fiW86b?6V6 b0"9 - Approved*&e 2002/05/06: CIA-RDP78-0?AcD0060009-4 1954 ONGRESSIONAL RECORD -HOUSE Many so-called security risks do not know to this day that they have been so tagged by-Mr. Young. Some are still working for the Government. The State Department security officer admitted that he reported as security risks 291 persons who merely transferred to an- other agency. Charges that the numbers 1,456 and 2,200 represented mostly spies or traitors have been completely refuted. If Mr. Young has turned up even one actual subversive he has presented no evidence of it. But of all the prominent majority party spokesmen who made these false accusations, to my knowledge only one has been man enough to apologize publicly. Now, in response to months of de- mands for basic information ? on the security program, Mr. Young has come up with another meaningless figure. His intention, of course, can only be to at- tempt to further confuse the Congress and the public in the hope that he can hide his errors by further use of mean- ingless and worthless totals. Mr. Young has given us no informa- tion showing how many people, if any, have actually been declared security risks under proper legal procedures. He will not tell' us whether we have any spies, subversives, or Communists in govern- ment. But he has come up with another in- stallment in the numbers game. He has picked the number 429 from somewhere and he says it represents individuals who left the Government in whose files he was able to locate "information indicat- ing, in varying degrees, subversive activ- ities, subversive associations, or member- ship in subversive organizations." To understand the significance of this figure we might compare it to courtroom pro- cedure. If he were a district attorney, Mr. Young would be announcing that he had secured 429 convictions, when, in fact, he did not have 429 convictions or even 429 indictments, but only 429 charges on which action might or might not be taken, ranging all the way from serious accusations to idle gossip. As an example, unsubstantiated accu- sations of subversive association have been made against former Ambassador Arthur Dean, and presumably went into his file. Mr. Dean has since resigned. I do not believe Mr. Dean is a security risk, but with that information in his file I can only assume that Mr. Young has him so listed. And if Secretary of State Dulles ever resigns, his former associations with Alger Hiss would like- wise undoubtedly win him a place on Mr. Young's list of totals. The most serious part of the whole business is that Mr. Young, with a large backlog of present employees not yet in- vestigated, has had security officers neg- lecting the important work to search dead personnel files for information which is useless for any purpose except an attempt to save face and becloud the real facts. Apparently it is going to be official pol- icy to continue to play this "numbers game." Mr. Young told the Congress re- peatedly that no one knew how many of the alleged security risks were holdovers from the previous administration. But only a few nights later, on TV, the offi- cial spokesman of the majority party said that, the majority of the 429 were holdovers. Must we assume that Mr. Young is furnishing, for political pur- poses, information he will not give to the Congress for the protection of the national security? The Congress has a right to know what is being done to protect our national se- curity by insuring loyal and trustworthy Government employees. I, for one, am serving notice that I do not intend to rest until we get some responsive and meaningful answers. Under the present security program, the Civil Service Commission is charged with grave responsibilities for protection of the national security for maintaining employee morale. It is obvious that the Commission, under Mr. Young's guid- ance, is devoting a great deal of time and effort to playing questionable politics with the security program. Congress has been unable to obtain any information which would reassure it that such preoccupation has not injured the national security. Unless there is a marked change in the present unwilling- ness of the Civil Service Commission to cooperate in trying to insure the effec- tiveness and improve the procedures of the security program; I respectfully sug- gest that the Congress should give seri- ous consideration to transferring the Commission's duties under the program to some other agency which will take a more responsible attitude. WHITE HOUSE ANNOUNCEMENTS Excerpt from President Eisenhower's state of the Union message on Febru- ary 3, 1953, outlining the purposes of the security program he intended to propose: All these measures have tvJb clear pur- poses: Their first purpose is to make certain that this Nation's security is not jeopardized by false servants. Their second purpose is to clear the atmosphere of that unreasoned suspicion that accepts rumor and gossip as substitutes for evidence. October 23, 1953: White House announced that 1,456 Gov- ernment workers either had been dismissed or had resigned while facing action against them in the new Federal employee security program which became effective May 27. The announcement said that 863 employees were dismissed up to September 30 and that 593 resigned. "In all of the resignation cases," it was announced, "the agencies and departments had unfavorable reports on these employees." James C. Hagerty, press secretary, added the information that only 5 of the 1,456 were persons given jobs under the Eisenhower ad- ministration on an interim basis pending investigation. Mr. Hagerty said he thought individual agencies might announce their part of the total later. (Washington Post, Oct. 24, 1953.) January 7, 1954: President Eisenhower announced in his state of the Union message: Under the standards established by the new employee security program, more than 2,200 employees have been separated from the Federal Government. (From the official text.) 3773 EXAMPLES OF MISUSE OF FIGURES November 7, 1953: The New York Times carried this headline at the top of its back'page: "United States Aide Reports-One Thousand Four Hundred and Fifty-six Reds Ousted." Under a Newark dateline from.a spe- cial correspondent, this lead paragraph followed: NOVEMBER 6.-Bernard M. Shanley, special counsel to President Eisenhower, deviated from the text of a prepared address today to observe that "1,456 subversives had been kicked out of Government jobs since the President assumed office." November 25, 1953: Senator JOSEPH R. MCCARTHY, Republican, Wisconsin, spoke on a nationwide radio hookup. One paragraph of the text was as follows: For example, the new administration in the first 10 months in office, has gotten rid of 1,456 Truman holdovers who are all secu- rity risks, and over 90 percent of the 1,49 security risks were gotten rid of because of Communist connection and activities or per- version. One thousand four hundred and fifty-six, I would say, is an excellent record for the time President Eisenhower has been in office. (From full text in U. S. News & World Report.) On a later Meet the Press program; December 13, Senator MCCARTHY again said that 90 percent of the number dis- charged "for Communist activities and perversion" ran "over 90 percent"-from NBC transcript. December 16, 1953: Gov. Thomas Dewey, in a speech at a $100-a-plate Republican dinner at Hartford, Conn., referred to the issue in this paragraph: The Democrats are also afraid that the American people will discover what a nice feeling it is to have a Government which is not infested, with spies and traitors. In less than 11 months the Department of Justice has discovered and dismissed 1,456 security risks planted in the Government of the United States under Democratic administra- tions. (From New York Times text.) January 21, 1954: Postmaster General Arthur Summerfield, addressing the New York City Industrial Conference Board, declared: Almost 2,200 people who were security risks are no longer using up your tax money. I am here to tell you we are not hiring any new ones. Somehow I do not feel too ami- ably inclined toward people who make treason a preoccupation. (From the Post Office Department release.) [The Eisenhower team has] "gotten rid of nearly 1,500 Communists, fellow travel- ers, and ther ilk, whom the Trumanites had left in office." "Under Truman, American taxpayers were providing salaries and expense accounts for hordes of spies, saboteurs, and fellow travel- ers. Now they are not." (From leaflet put out by Carlton G. Ketchum, national finance director of the Republican National Com- mittee.) GOOD WORK BY THE PRESS December 21, 1953: The Washington Daily News began a series of eight articles disclosing individual cases of persons fired or charged under the security pro- gram. The cases described included a woman charged with bearing a baby less than 9 months after marriage, 10 years ago to her present husband, a man who failed to note on his job application that Approved For Release 2002/05/06 : CIA-RDP78-03578A000400060009-4 Approved IkelSe 2002/05/06: CIA-RDP78-03 0060009-4 3774 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOU March 29, he was in an Army psychiatric ward dur- ing the war, and a man who had not yet gotten his job back although he had been cleared by his hearing board and ordered reinstated. The author's con- clusion was that the system was "not working perfectly" for the individual or the Government. January 1, 1954: The Washington Post, in a column by Murrey Marder, declared that the administration, "in its zealousness to show that it has been cleaning security risks out of Govern- ment," has prpduced "a set of statistics which has been transformed into a seri- ously distorted political issue." January 5, 1954: The Washington Evening Star declared editorially that the Civil Service Commission "owes the public a full explanation of how this total was arrived at and what it covers." January 3, 1954: The Washington Evening Star, in a three-column review of its efforts to analyze what its reporter, L. Edgar Prina, called "an almost mean- ingless figure," said that it appeared that the figure, 1,456 included persons who never were fired or forced to resign, as the White House announcement im- plied, but who instead were separated through voluntary resignations, reduc- tions in force-even by death-without ever knowing they had been accused of anything. The Star story also reported that the Navy had originally prepared a release, announcing 8 persons fired and 12 sus- pended as security risks, but after learn- ing that the Civil Service Commission had counted the Navy for 192 of the 1,456, the Navy announced the separa- tion of 192 persons "against whom a se- curity question existed." The Star said the Air Force rebelled against conforming to the "official" fig- ure and canceled a release on the sub- ject. January 17, 1954: A Washington Post editorial declared that- These 2,200 separations thus do not afford any meaningful index to the administra- tion's security vigilance. It looks- - The editorial continued- as if the President has been handed a phony - figure. We wish he would' demand a break- down of it and give the results of that break- down to the public. January 28, 1954: Regarding President Eisenhower's expressed concern over an unjustified stigma on persons dis- missed, the Washington Post declared editorially: One reason the administration is reluctant to break down the figures, it may be inferred, is that few of the 2,209, cases -involve actual or suspected disloyalty (and that the total includes some perfectly routine departures). * * * The stigmatizing which worries the President has been intensified by the admin- istration itself, and disclosure, rather than buckpassing, is the way to correct it. rooting them out under the [new] security program * * * that this no longer can be considered a serious menace. - Asyou already know, about 1,500 persons who were security risks already have been removed." Others went much further. Some of their statements are detailed in Anthony Lewis' article on this page. There can be no doubt that the idea was to use the security pro- gram for political purposes. That was a bad idea for the country, and in the end for the politicians themselves. With one exception none of the Republi- cans who made the false political claims has been man enough to admit that he was, to put it charitably, mistaken. But by now everyone from the White House down must realize that the full truth would have been best from the start, which is what this newspaper has been hammering at since our story on December 7, 1953, the first in any newspaper to call attention to the dis- crepancies in party leaders' statements. Of course, even one subversive in Gov- ernment is one too many, but it isn't neces- sary to smear the entire Federal service with deliberately distorted versions of its condi- tion in order to clean up the dirty spots, and keep the service clean. [From the Washington Star of March 10, 19541 YOUNG CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR HAGERTY FIGURES ON SECURITY OUSTERS Chairman Young, of the Civil Service Com- mission, today said he has no idea where White House Press Secretary James C. Hager- ty got his information that all but 5 of the first 1,456 security risks separated were Tru- man administration holdovers. Under questioning by Democratic mem- bers of the Senate Civil Service Committee, Mr. Young stated that the CSC never sup- plied such information at any time. He added that statistics on who hired the se- curity risks have not been kept by the Com-. mission. [From the Washington Star of March 11, 1954 ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T KNOW SCORE IN ITS "NUMBERS GAME" The security risk "numbers game" was in such a state of confusion today that admin- istration spokesman found themselves at odds even as to who had told what and to whom. Testifying at a Senate hearing yeesterday, Chairman Philip. Young of the Civil Service Commission said that he had no idea where James Hagerty, White House press secretary, got his information that all but five of the first 1,456 Federal employees dropped as se- curity risks were Truman holdovers. He added that such information definitely did not come from Civil Service Commission because no such statistics had ever been kept there. TWO VERSIONS In answer to a query from the Star, on the other hand, Mr. Hagerty said he got his data from the Civil Service Commission. In- formed of Mr. Young's statement, he said that still was his best recollection. "I didn't pick the figure out of the air, I know that," he said. Mr. Young could not be reached immedi. ately for further comment. Mr. Hagerty made his original statement about Truman holdovers at a press confer- ence last October 23 when the White House announced results obtained in the first 4 months of the security program. MR. YOUNG'S COMMENT net member," and "a Communist-hunt- the 1954 elections. - Long before then, this The Washington Daily News, in John ing Senator" with the observation: administration will have made such progress Cramer's column on January 15, quoted Approved For Release 2002/05/06 : CIA-RDP78-03578A000400060009-4 The facts do not support or provide any excuse for these exaggerations. They are careless, irresponsible, and purposeful. Most who indulge in them are too bright not to know what they are doing. February 3, 1954: Joseph C. Harsch, special correspondent to the Christian Science Monitor discussed the risk situa- tion and commented: The administration is caught between the presidentially recognized injustice to many innocent individuals and the presidentially recognized monstrosity of a Republican ad- ministration clearing Democrats of charges pinned on them by Republicans. February 4, 1954: the Washington Post, in an editorial, said that an ad- ministration breakdown of its security program figures, if it comes, should pro- vide the following information: . The number of cases in which charges relating to loyalty were presented to the employees; the number in which adverse findings were made after hearings held in accordance with procedures prescribed under the new security program; the number cleared after hearings; the number who re- signed without having any charges filed against them and without any knowledge that they were the subjects of suspicion; the number whose dismissal or resignation entailed allegations of unreliability or un- suitability on grounds .vbolly unrelated to loyalty. [From the Washington Daily News of March 5, 19541 CLEANING THE RECORD The murky tabulations of security risks issued by the administration were not fully explained by the several statements of Civil Service Chairman Philip Young to congres- sional committees this week. But Mr. Young did clear up two important miscon- ceptions about the risks: The false idea that most or all of the security risks listed by the administration so far were traitors, subversives, Commu- nists, or something of the kind. Mr. Young's figures show that only about 17 percent of those rated as security risks by the administration had any substantial information relating to subversion in their personnel files when they left the Govern- ment. Even that does not mean all 17 percent were subversives, Mr. Young emphasized. Many resigned without knowing of the charges and having a chance to explain; others were fired for entirely different rea- sons. Few, it is clear, wept through all ap- peal procedures and were finally dismissed as subversives. The false idea that the new administration security program was responsible for remov- ing all the listed risks, whether they were subversives or merely alcoholics or blabber- mouths. W. Young's figures show that more than half of some 2,429 persons listed as risks resigned, many voluntarily and without hav- ing been informed of the charges. And of those fired, Mr. Young said, "the great bulk were separated under regular civil-service procedures"-not the new security program. These two misconceptions developed es- sentially from some-not all- Republicans' attempt to make political capital out of the situation. February 1, 1954: Roscoe Drummond, President Eisenhower himself left an er- of the New York Herald Tribune, quoted roneous impression in a prepared statement the statements on security risks by "a (doubtless prepared for him by somebody politically minded member of the White else) at his December 2 press conference: House staff," "a Fear of Communists actively politically minded Cabi- ing our Government will not be an issue in Approve* se 2002/05/06: CIA-RDP78-0418P 400060009-4 1954. NGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE Chairman Philip Young, of the Civil Service Commissions I, as a taxpayer, am not interested in whether a person was discharged for being disloyal or for being drunk, and I don't think the average person is. They just want to know that we are getting rid of this type of person on the Government payroll. CORRESPONDENCE WITH MR. YOUNG After more than 2 months, the ques- tions asked still remain unanswered. JANUARY 15, 1954. Hon. PHILIP YOUNG, Chairman, Civil Service Commission, Washington, D. C. DEAR MR. YOUNG: As you are no doubt aware, wide publicity has been given to fig- ures from the Civil Service Commission indi- cating 1,436 Government employees had been removed as security risks under the new personnel security program. Recently this number has been raised to 2,200. The Executive order setting up the new se- curity program defines as "security risks" all Government employees guilty of espionage, subversive activities, or unauthorized dis- closure of security information as well as those who are members of subversive organ- izations or associated with subversive persons. In addition, under the new order, Govern- ment employees may be classed as security risks if their behavior is unreliable or un- trustworthy, if they have had personal habits such as immoral conduct or addiction to alcohol, if they are sex perverts, or if there is any reason to believe they may be subject to coercion or pressure from those attempting to undermine our national security. No breakdown has been made showing the number of employees discharged because of questionable loyalty and the number classed as security risks for other reasons. The total number of discharged employees has been used by many persons in a manner that sug- gests all, or nearly all, of these employees were discharged because of disloyalty to the United States. If we had 2,200 spies or unquestionably dis- loyal persons in our Government last year, it is a very serious situation calling for legis- lative action amending civil service laws on hiring and firing of security risks. We must make sure our laws are strong enough to pre- vent a recurrence of the deplorable situation. If, however, the majority of the 2,200 per- sons classed as security risks are loyal Amer- icans, we need to take equally vigorous action to prevent repetition of a slur which reflects unjust doubt on the loyalty of thousands of patriotic Government employees. As a member of the House Committee on Post Office and Civil Service, which has the duty of considering legislation affecting Gov- ernment workers and the civil service system, I wish a thorough report on the Government loyalty question. Therefore, I request that you furnish to me as soon as possible the following information regarding the 2,200 persons removed from Government employ- ment as security risks: 1. How were the figures compiled showing 1,456, and later 2,200, security risks were re- moved from Government employment? (a) Were all of the 2,200 persons involved informed of the charges against them and given an opportunity to appeal before being removed? (b) How many of the 2,200 persons were discharged and how many, if any, resigned? (c) Are any of the 2,200 persons still em- ployed by the Government? 2. How many of the 2,200 persons were removed because of questionable loyalty? (a) How many, if any, had committed es- pionage, sabotage, or treason? (b) How many, if any, were members of the Communist Party? (c) How many were removed on other loyalty grounds such as associating with sub- versive persons? 3. How many of the 2,200 persons were removed for reasons not involving loyalty, such as bad personal habits, excessive drink- ing, or the possibility of being subject to coercion? 4. How many of the 2,200 persons had been cleared by a previous loyalty board? I am sure you will agree Congress must be fully informed in order to carry out its duty of enacting necessary legislation. I would appreciate immediate acknowl- edgment of this letter informing me whether I will receive the information re- quested and when it will be forthcoming. Thank you very much. Sincerely, UNITED STATES CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION, Washington, D. C., January 19, 1954. Hon. JOHN E. Moss, Jr., House of Representatives. DEAR MR. Moss: I have received your letter of January 15 inquiring about the employees' security program and asking various ques- tions with respect to it. Under the provisions of Executive order 10450 establishing this program the heads of the individual departments and agencies are specifically responsible for the matter of se- curity in their own agencies. In addition, the Civil Service Commission has certain responsibilities enumerated in the order con- cerning the maintenance of a security index, compilation of lists of employees to partici- pate as members of hearing boards, as well as certain reporting functions given in section 14 requiring the Commission to render in- formation to the National Security Council. The Civil Service Commission has neither the responsibility nor the authority to re- lease any information that it may possess concerning the employees' security program. It expects to render a report to the National Security Council in a few weeks and I would assume that, at that time, the National Se- curity Council and the White House would arrive at some determination as to what in- formation might be released on the details of the program. Please be assured of our very sincere in- terest in your inquiry, and I shall be very glad to sit down and talk with you about this further if you so desire. Sincerely, PHILIP YOUNG, Chairman. JANUARY 26, 1954. HOIn. PHILIP YOUNG, Chairman, Civil Service Commission, Washington, D. C. DEAR MR. YOUNG: Your letter of January 19, if I understand it correctly, takes the posi- tion that the Civil Service Commission has the information I requested but is not au- thorized to furnish it to me. I do not understand your contention that the Civil Service Commission has no author- ity to furnish the information requested. I know of no law or executive order prohibit. ing an executive department from furnish- ing such information to a Member of Con- gress, and you do not cite any such law or Executive order in your letter. I am aware of the Presidential directive of March 13, 1948, forbidding release of con- fidential files relating to loyalty investiga. tions without express permission of the Pres- ident. I agree with this order and recog. nize its necessity in order to protect Gov- ernment personnel against the dissemination of unfounded or disproved allegations. This order does not, of course, apply to the pres- ent situation. I have not asked for confi- dential files of investigative reports. I do not seek the names of individuals nor the identity of informants. With one excep- tion-a request for an explanation of the manner in which the total was compiled- every question I asked could be answered by a simple yes or no, or by a number. Under section 13 of Executive Order 10400, the Attorney General is charged with advis- ing departments and agencies on the em- ployee-security program. According to press reports, the Attorney General stated on Jan- uary 21 that it is up to the Civil Service Commission to decide if any breakdown of the security-risk figure should be released. In my letter of January 15, I stressed the fact that Congress must be fully informed so that it may enact whatever legislation is needed to protect the national security. The need for a clarifying statement on loyalty firings and on dismissals for other reasons is obvious to me. There is a great differ- ence between dismissing 2,200 persons for drunkeness, which would call for an exten- sive temperance program in the Federal service, and the dismissing of 2,200 Govern- ment workers for acts of disloyalty which should call for drastic action to counteract a major threat to the security of our country. There is another compelling reason for prompt clarification of previous statements on the employee-security program. The ad- ministration has already made public an- nouncement of the number of security risks removed from the Government. The num- bers 1,436 and 2,200 have been repeatedly used in ways suggesting all, or nearly all, of these persons were disloyal to the United States. The responsible officials have refused to give further information to either refute or confirm those charges. This attitude has helped to foster unjust and entirely unwar- ranted suspicion of many persons who left the Government voluntarily or were dis- charged for economy reasons. The whole sit- uation inevitably injures the morale of civil service workers and undermines public con- fidence in our Government. In your capacity as Chairman of the Civil Service Commission-the agency most direct- ly concerned with assuring fair play to career Government workers-I should think you would feel some responsibility for repairing the damage caused by misunderstanding and distortion of information furnished by the Commission. I frankly do not understand your apparent reluctance to take corrective action. You refer in your letter to the possibility of information being available after the next report by the Civil Service Commission to the National Security Council. In view of the fact that the first report was made on Oc- tober 22, 1953-3 months ago-it is reason- able to assume you should be in a position to decide policy at least to the extent it ap- plies to that original report and take im- mediate steps to release the requested break- down. Failure to do so must force me to the conclusion that your policy is to withhold these facts from the public and the Con- gress as well. Sincerely, UNITED STATES CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION, Washington, D. C., February 18, 1954. Hon. JOHN E. Moss, Jr., House of Representatives. DEAR MR. Moss: I refer to our previous cor- respondence concerning a breakdown of sep- arations of Federal employees under Execu- tive Order 10450. Yesterday I called upon the heads of the departments and agencies to furnish infor- mation concerning these cases as outlined in the attached statement. Sincerely, PHILIP YOUNG, Chairman. Approved For Release 2002/05/06 : CIA-RDP78-03578A000400060009-4 3776 Approved FwleS 2002/05/06 : CIA-RDP78-035 060009-4 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOT March 29 [Press release, United States Civil Service It should be pointed out again that no it 'should' not be necessary to point out to D C Wednes individual has a right to a Government job. you that these files often contain anonymous t on, . ., Commission, Washing day, February 17, 19541 Working for the Government is a privilege accusations which have no basis in fact STATEMENT BY PHILIP YOUNG, CHAIRMAN, that a citizen must earn. He must meet whatever. This was strongly demonstrated CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION, CONCERNING IN- the standards required for his particular recently in some shocking and wholly FORMATION ABOUT EMPLOYEE SECURITY PRO- assignment, whether under Civil Service, the groundless charges against Chief Justicb Earl GRAM THAT WILL BE FURNISHED TO NATIONAL security program or any other criteria estab- Warren. Your request for the number of files lished for and on behalf of the American having derogatory information in them SECURITY COUNCIL people. might be helpful in showing how many per- The basic objective of the employee secu- sons wrote anonymous letters accusing Gov- rity program is to make sure that there is FEBRUARY 24, 1954. ernment workers, but it is of no value what- no employee on the Federal payroll nor any DEAR MR. YOUNG: Thank you for your let- ever in showing what action the agencies applicant appointed who can, because of ter of February 18. It does not answer the took on those accusations under Executive his position, endanger the national security. questions asked in my previous correspond- Order 10450. The American people must be assured that ence-in fact, it raises additional questions. It would almost appear that you are now Federal employees are persons of integrity, I am pleased to note that you apparently trying to find something in enough files to high moral character, and of unswerving loy- no longer contend as you did in your letter back up the figures which have been so alty to the United States. This we have of January 19 that you are not authorized widely publicized and so strongly attacked attempted to do. Today the head of each to release information on the employees' se- as erroneous. department and agency is responsible for curity program. However, you still have not Your request for information Is so worded the security of his agency. stated that you intend to release any infor- as to permit classifying in the same cate- There are many criteria for determining mation. May I suggest that you make a gory persons guilty of treason and persons the security reliability of employees. A per- prompt announcement stating just what in- who are unquestionably loyal but are unfor- son not measuring up to those standards may formation you are going to release and when tunate enough to have a relative living be- have voluntarily resigned his position or may you are going to release it. hind the Iron Curtain. I can assure you that have been discharged. In either case he is no I am disturbed by your indication that you any breakdown which classifies actual sub- longer on the Federal payroll in a job in called upon the heads of departments only versives with loyal citizens whose only fault which he might endanger the national se- last week to furnish information concerning is having a suspected relative will neither curity. To attempt a classification of these security cases. Executive Order 10450 be- satisfy nor deceive Congress. persons by assigning a specific reason in came effective in May 1953, more than 9 You state in your press release that "To each case for regarding the individual as months ago. Surely you are ad'are that sec- attempt a classification of these persons by a security risk would be futile and mean- tion 9 (a) of that order directs the Civil assigning a specified reason in each case for ingless. The criteria in section 8 (a) of Service Commission to establish and main- regarding the individual as a security risk Executive Order 10450 are many and are tain "a security-investigations index cov- would be futile and meaningless." I find it broadly stated. It is only the rare case ering all persons as to whom security inves- impossible to reconcile this statement witn where any single criterion would be control- tigations have been conducted by any de- the procedures established by law for re- ling. Many things must be and are taken partment or agency of the Government un- moval of security risks. The law (title 5, into account, including in many cases the der this order." It also states that "the section 22-1 of the United States Code) pro- job held and its relationship to the national security-investigations index shall contain vides: "That any employee having a perman- security. the name of each person investigated" and ent or indefinite appointment, who is a citi- The American people have been Informed "adequate identifying information concern- zen of the United States whose employment from time to time that this program has ing each such person." In addition, section is suspended * * * shall be given after his been making progress. Many hundreds of 9 (b) states that "the heads of all depart- suspension and before his employment it persons whose files contained information ments and agencies shall furnish promptly terminated * * * a written statesment giving cause for belief that such persons did to the Civil Service Commission informa- within 30 days after his suspension of the not measure up to the security standards tion appropriate for the establishment and charges against him * * * which shall be are no longer on the Federal payroll. Some maintenance of the security-investigations stated as specifically as security considera- were discharged, and some resigned. Some index." tions permit." of those who resigned undoubtedly knew of you must also know that section 14 (a) If the departments do not know the spe- the derogatory information concerning of Executive Order 10450 directs the Civil cific reasons for classifying an individual as them: others doubtless did not. Service Commission to "make a continuing a security risk, how can they notify that A short time ago it was indicated that study of the manner in which this order is individual of the charges against him? And a study would be undertaken to determine being implemented by the departments and if the departments are giving proper notice whether it was feasible to make any class'- agencies of the Government" in order to to individuals of the specific charges against fication of those who did not measure up to ascertain deficiencies in the program which them, why is that information not readily the security standards. That study indi- tend to weaken the national security or deny available? cates that a classification according to the individual employees fair, impartial and You are no doubt aware that a number of particular reasons for regarding these indi- equitable treatment. Section 14 (b) directs persons in high positions have used the fig- viduals as security risks would be neither all departments and agencies of the Govern- ures 1,456 and 2,200 in such a manner as to feasible nor in the public interest. How- ment to cooperate with the Civil Service indicate that all or nearly all of these per. ever, a classification according to broad cate- Commission in accomplishing this study. sons were discharged for disloyalty to the gories of information in the individuals' files If you have complied with these provisions United States. Some of the persons making is feasible. Accordingly, in order to make of Executive Order 10450, why is it neces- those charges are officials of the administra. available to the National Security Council sary now to ask the agencies for this infor- tion itself. as much information as can feasibly be as- mation? If you did not have this informa- As Chairman of the Civil Service Commis- sembled about the program, I have called tion, how could you or any other official com- sion you have a definite responsibility for upon the heads of the executive depart- pile the figures 1,456 and 2,200 which were dealing with problems affecting our Govern- ments and agencies to analyze their security publicly announced? ment workers. It is hard to imagine any- cases on the basis of the following types of As a member of the House Committee on thing more damaging to the morale of the information contained in the files: Post Office and Civil Service, I believe it is my Government service than the present accusa- l. Number whose files contained informa- duty to try to ascertain whether the new tions of widespread treason being made by tion indicating, in varying degrees, subver- employee security program is properly safe- supposedly responsible officials. sive activities, subversive associations, or guarding the national security and affording It is because of widespread misuse of these membership In subversive organizations. individual employees fair and equitable 2. Number whose files contained informa- treatment. For this purpose, I asked ques- questionable figures that I now feel the facts publi- must be tion indicating sex perversion. tions carefully drawn up to bring out the made known and be as widely may 3. Number whose files contained informa- number of persons, if any, removed from sized in order that the American people e may know how very few tion indicating conviction of felonies or mis- Government jobs as spies, traitors or sabo- of their employees merit demeanors. teurs under section 8 (a) 2 of Executive Or- 4. Number whose files contained any other der 10450 and to show whether the persons COUNTING TRANSFERS AS SECURITY RISKS type or types of information falling within classed as security risks had been notified Excerpts from the testimony of Robert the purview of Executive Order 10450, as of the accusations against them and given W. S. McLeod, Administrator, Bureau of amended. an opportunity to defend themselves. Your Security and Consular Affairs, State De- Heretofore the statistical data that the request to the departments for information various departments and agencies have been seems to carefully avoid both of these vital copartment, House mmittee on Department Appropriations JSub US-of State, furnishing to the Civil Service Commission questions. I hope this is not your intention. time and Commerce, January 25, 1954, concerning the employee security program I note with interest that you do not ask 44 has not included any classification of cases the departments how many employees they page either according to causes for regarding the have separated under the new security pro- Mr. McLEOD. ? * ? we have had a total of individuals as security risks or according to gram. Instead you merely ask what kind of 590 separations on which a security question Information about them. information is contained in personnel files. existed. That was from January 1, 1953, to Approved For Release 2002/05/06 : CIA-RDP78-03578A000400060009-4 Approved a 2002/05/06 : CIA-RDP78-03?A0*0060009-4 1954 NGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE down as follows. Transferred to other agencies, 291. PROCEDURES OF 10450 NOT USED Excerpt from testimony of Philip Young, Chairman of the Civil Service Commission, before the Senate Commit- tee on Post Office and Civil Service, March 10, 1954: The third point I would like to make deals with the protection granted to employees under this program. For those persons whom an agency head proposes to terminate under the provisions of Executive Order No. 10450 the procedure calls for a statement of charges and an opportunity to answer. A hearing may be granted, if the employee so desires, before a security hearing board composed of three employees of other Government agen- cies. The sample regulations, furnished to all agencies by the Justice Department, and adopted by agencies with some minor modi- fications, provide that when a hearing is held the employee will have the right to present witnesses on his behalf and may cross-exam- ine any witnesses offered in support of the charges. The hearing board reports Its deci- sion to the head of the agency who makes the final decision. If the employee is termi- nated, there is also provision for a determi- nation by the Civil Service Commission, upon the employee's request, as to whether the former employee may be employed in another agency. Excerpt from the testimony of Robert W. S. McLeod, Administrator, Bureau of Security and Consular Affairs, State Department, House Appropriations Sub- committee on Departments of State, Justice, and Commerce, January 25, 1954, page 45: SECURITY RISKS Mr. McLEOD. * * * So far we have not successfully finally completed the procedure in a single case under this order. On January 12 and February 8, 1954, Elbert P. Tuttle, General Counsel of the Treasury Department testified before the House Appropriations Subcommittee on the Treasury-Post Office Departments to the effect that there had been 130 dis- missals of security risks during 1953. All 130 had been removed under Execu- tive Order No. 9835. No security risks had been removed under Executive Order No. 10450. Excerpt from testimony of Baron Shacklette, compliance officer, General Services Administration, House Appro- priations Subcommittee on Independent Offices, February 24, 1954, page 1646: Mr. SHACKLETTE. * * * There have been no separations after a'full hearing to date in GSA. None of them has gone the full route as provided in the Executive order. WHERE DID THE VICE PRESIDENT GET HIS FACTS? Excerpts from testimony of Philip Young, Chairman of the Civil Service Commission, before the Senate Com- mittee on Post Office and Civil Service. March 10, 1954: Senator JOHNSTON. How many of this 2,400 that you are talking about have been hired in Government since January 1, 1953? Mr. YOUNG. I can't tell you that, Senator, because i don't know how many have been. * * * It would be an extremely difficult figure to try to break out, because, again, it means going back and looking at every single individual case. Senator JOHNSTON. I want you to give me that, plus this: I want the percent that you fired for that reason, that you have hired since February 1, 1953-the percent. And I want to know the percent that was working for the Government prior to that time, and the percent you have let go. Mr. YOUNG. That would be a practically impossible figure to get, Senator, without a terrific amount of time and work, to attempt to find out when each one of these indi- viduals came on the payroll. * * * * Mr. YOUNG. As I have been pointing out, Senator, it would be extremely difficult to attempt to break down to 2,486 cases from the point of view of determining as of what date they actually came on the Federal pay- roll. * * * It means going back through 2486 Individual files, which are scattered all over the country, and in some cases, in other parts of the world. * * * * * Senator COOPER. * * * Can you say whether or not those 429 were in the Gov- ernment at the time of Issuance of the Exec- utive order? Is that known? Mr. YOUNG. It is not known, Senator- the date when any one of these individuals was put on the payroll. Excerpt from speech made by Vice President NIXON as official spokesman of the Republican Party, March 13, 1954: Now, how has this policy worked? Well, since May, when the policy was adopted, fairly and effectively under this program we have been weeding out indi- viduals of this type; and to give you an idea I have here a breakdown of the files of over 2,400 people who have left the Federal pay- roll either by resignation or discharge under this program since May, and the great ma- jority of these, incidentally, were inherited from the previous administration. CONCLUSION To any rational individual, the docu- mentation above can lead only to com- plete confusion. It is the best possible evidence of the necessity for giving the facts to the Congress and the public. Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Chairman, we have no further requests for time. Mr. PHILLIPS. Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he may desire to the gen- tleman from West Virginia [Mr. NEAL]. (Mr. NEAL asked and was "given permission to revise and extend his remarks.) Mr. NEAL. Mr. Chairman, I am in hearty accord with the position taken by the committee-that money advanced by the Government for completing con- struction of Tennessee Valley Authority facilities should bear the same rate of interest that the Government is required to assume on bonds sold to the public, since this is the only source of Govern- ment's borrowed funds. TVA power consumers have always en- joyed cheaper power rates than those prevailing in other areas of the Nation whose taxpayers have borne the brunt of the creation and maintenance of TVA facilities. Even now there is pending a commit- ment of Government funds for the pur- pose of canalizing the Green River in Kentucky solely for the purpose of sub- sidizing TVA's coal supply to fuel its steam plants. The Atomic Energy Commission's op- erations at Oak Ridge may require more power from time to time. If that is so, 3777 Government should encourage the crea- tion of productive capacity to supply this power for defensive purposes, but power so supplied by this facility will be amply paid for out of AEC funds furnished by the taxpayers who reside in all parts of the United States. It is, therefore, only fair to the general public that TVA assume the interest on funds advanced by the Government at the same rate paid by Government for the purpose of securing moneys to be loaned in this manner. Mr. PHILLIPS. Mr. Chairman, I have no further requests for time, and I sug- gest the Clerk read the first paragraph of the bill. The Clerk read the first paragraph of the bill. Mr. PHILLIPS. Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee do now rise. The motion was agreed to. Accordingly the Committee rose; and the Speaker having resumed the chair, Mr. GRAHAM, Chairman of the Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union, reported that that Committee, having had under consideration the bill (H. R. 8583) making appropriations for the Executive Office and sundry inde- pendent executive bureaus, boards, com- missions, corporations, agencies, and of- fices, for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1955, and for other purposes, directed him to report it had come to no reso- lution thereon. ESTABLISHMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE ACADEMY Mr. SHORT. Mr. Speaker, I call up the conference report on the bill (H. R. 5337) to provide for the establishment of the United States Air Force Academy, and for other purposes, and I ask unani- mous consent that the statement on the part of the managers be read in lieu of the report. The Clerk read the title of the bill. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Missouri? There was no objection. The Clerk read the statement. (For conference report and statement, see proceedings of the House of March 25, 1949.) The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeeing to the conference report. The conference report was agreed to, and a motion to reconsider was laid on the table. RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AT OAK RIDGE, TENN. (Mr. BAKER asked and was given permission to address the House for 1 minute, to revise and extend his remarks, and to include therein a telegram from the president of the Oak Ridge, Tenn., Chamber of Commerce, and an editorial from the Oak Ridger, the daily news- paper published in Oak Ridge, Tenn., issue of Tuesday, March 16, 1953, en- titled "Panama-Ridge Parallel.") Mr. BAKER. Mr. Speaker, I have been a Member of Congress a little over 3 years. During that time I have fre- Approved For Release 2002/05/06 : CIA-RDP78-03578A000400060009-4 Approved IlWeee 2002/05/06: CIA-RDP78-03 00060009-4 3778 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HO March -29 quently urged upon the floor of the House that the Atomic Energy Commission get out of the business of being the landlord to the thousands of residents of the atomic city, Oak Ridge, Tenn. As I stated here just a few days ago, there have been many promises of a disposal program for Oak Ridge, but so far no performance, no-plan or draft of a bill granting home ownership to these thousand of citizens at Oak Ridge and removing the stigma of a company town from Oak Ridge has yet been presented to Congress or made public. I have received thousands of letters and telegrams urging home ownership for Oak Ridge. The following is a tele- gram from the President T. L. Clines, of the Oak Ridge Chamber of Commerce, of March 25, 1954: Oak Ridge Chamber of Commerce finds it hard to reconcile delay in presenting prop- erty disposal bill to Congress with the many assurances received over past year. Greatly concerned that further delay will block all chances of passage this year. Every day's postponement will make it just that much harder to achieve your often expressed desire for normalcy in city of Oak Ridge. Respect- fully urge immediate presentation of pro- posed legislation. These fine citizens are justifiably im- patient. I cannot too strongly urge the Atomic Energy Commission, Bureau of the Budget, and all other Government agencies responsible for action to give us immediate action so that these thou- sands of fine persons who are working tirelessly to save the United States from destruction may be first-class citizens and not tenants at sufferance of a Gov- ernment landlord in a company town. The following editorial from the Oak Ridger, of March 16, 1953, portrays the situation: PANAMA-RIDGE PARALLEL The current issue of Reader's Digest con- tains an article about the Panama Canal. It tells of the various factors that make the canal extremely vulnerable to enemy attack and reports on conditions about the canal in general. A part of the article struck home with us particularly. It seemed, from this account, that there's quite a parallel between the canal government community and Oak Ridge. For example, consider these excerpts de- scribing conditions there: "When the first Americans went down to the jungle in 1904 to dig the canal they faced incredible dangers and hardships. Special inducements such as free hospitali- zation, 25 percent more pay than similar Government employees in the United States get, and the advantages of living in a tax- free area were held out to lure these men from the safety of their homes and jobs up North. They were given to believe they were establishing ndw homes where the oppor- tunities they created would pass on to their children. "What has happened? At first they were charged reasonable rents for the shacks they inhabited-but rentals have been raised to exorbitant levels. Today these termite-rid- den barracks, neither modernized nor main- tained in decent reg~~yn~}oq$ the visitor from the North. Fre alffl Ition has been taken away, and not long ago the United States Government announced that the 25 perAl fd4iffirential would also be abolished rw The Caes Y#Othin~ ~el er which the American flag flies. rt is n( a State, a Territory, a possession, a mandate, or even a district, like the District of Co- lumbia. You might say it is a kind of Indian reservation where the inhabitants pay Amer- ican taxes but have no vote; where the land- lord owns all the tepees and the trading posts-but the inhabitants can live there only so long as they have jobs. If you are retired or fired, you and your family are shipped out immediately like refugees. You are not permitted to buy or own a place to live, and it doesn't matter how long or faith- fully you have worked there, when your use- ful days are over-out you go. * * * "One oldtimer, recently retired after 45 years of faithful service, told me: 'The Canal Zone was the only home I knew. But as soon as my retirement papers came through I was practically deported.' He added: 'We oldtimers remember the ringing speeches of Teddy Roosevelt, General Goethals, and other great American leaders who assured us that we were building a new homeland for our children and our children's children. Now there is sadness-even bitterness-in our hearts. We oldtimers have a name for this: Betrayal at the Ninth Parallel.' " Reading this, and then glancing at the calendar, makes us all the more impatient that the Atomic Energy Commission, the Bureau of the Budget, and Congress tell us something positive quickly about the long- long-promised property disposal program. How much longer are we expected to be patient? We don't want our similarities to the Panama Canal to go any further than they already have. SPECIAL ORDER GRANTED Mr. WILLIS asked and was given per- mission to address the House today for 12 minutes, following any other special orders heretofore entered. THE HOUSING PROGRAM (Mr. PATMAN asked and was given permission to address the House for 1 minute, to revise and extend his remarks and include his own individual minority view on H. R. 7839.) Mr. PATMAN. Mr. Speaker, the hous- ing bill has been under consideration by the Committee on Banking and Currency for several weeks. The bill was reported out last Friday night. When the bill comes before the House on Wednesday or whenever it shall be appropriate to consider it, I expect to offer an amend- ment to strike out all of title II which is the title which would permit the raising of interest rates from the traditional spread of 11/2 percent above the long- term rate to 21/2 percent, and also strike out controls which would be reinstating regulation (S). INDIVIDUAL MINORITY VIEWS OF REPRESENTA- TIVE WRIGHT PATMAN ON H. R. 7839 This housing bill As reported has more harm in it than good. It would be better to have no bill at all than to pass this bill with all of its bad features. The interest rate increase of 1 percent on home mortgage loans is indefensible. On a 25-year home mortgage for $9,600, an increase of one-half of 1 percent in interest means $814 the borrower must pay, or 15 percent more. This illustration is for an increase of one-half of 1 percent, whereas the bill provides for an increase of twice that much. The financing plan of this housing bill was referred to as a fraud and a hoax by an important housing official, who stated it is "completely and absolutely unworkable." We have 12 million substandard dwelling units in the United States. One-third of our Nation is ill-housed. We need to build 2 million new homes each year for the next 10 years to provide decent housing in Amer- ica. The administration has pr'ogramed less than 1 million new starts for this year. The home builders want to build 1,400,000 -homes and recondition 500,000 more this year. The mortgage bankers and landlords-who profit from housing shortages-naturally want the smallest number started this year. CONGRESS DELEGATED MORE POWERS THAN RETAINED Twelve powerful men who have more con- trol over the economic affairs of our country than the United States Congress or the Ex- ecutive were not brought before the com- mittee or consulted on this important bill. Their actions will determine whether this bill or any other bill involving credit or money will work. Congress in delegating such enormous powers to a small group has delegated more powers that are necessary for an expanding, dynamic, progressive economy than it has retained for itself. The cost and availability of credit and money are determined in our national econ- omy by the Federal Open-Market Committee. This Committee,- operating under powers granted by Congress, makes it possible for money to be easy ar hard; to make interest rates high or low; or to create a climate that causes our Nation to progress or suffer a depression. The 12 men composing the Federal Open- Market Committee consist of the 7 members of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and 5 representatives of the Federal Reserve banks, each of whom is se- lected by a board of 9 directors of the Fed- eral Reserve bank he represents. The 9 directors consist of 6 members named by the private commercial banks and 3 named by the Board of Governors. A more correct statement is the Federal Open-Market Com- mittee consists of the 7 members of the Board of Governors and 5 presidents of Fed- eral Reserve banks who are obligated to the private bankers for their selection. A comparable situation would be created if the railroad owners helped to fix freight rates by having their representatives mem- bers of the Interstate Commerce Commission. The Federal Open-Market Committee can hold interest rates short- or long-term at any rate it desires. Mr. Marriner S. Eccles was Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board longer than any other person. He was doubtless more fa- miliar with every detail of the operations of the Federal Reserve System than any other person. Mr. Eccles, in answer to questions-when he was before congressional committees- often stated that the Federal Open-Market Committee had the power to determine the availability of credit, interest rates, prices of Government bonds, and other important matters. When Mr. Eccles was testifying before the House Committee on Banking and Currency, in March 1947-and while Senator - MIKE MoNRONEY was then a Member of the House and a member of the Banking and Currency Committee of the House-a question was asked by Mr. MONRONEY and an answer given by Mr. Eccles, as follows: "Mr. MONRONEY. Do you mean to say that with your present Open-Market Committee, and the operation of the Federal Reserve, as it now stands, that, regardless of what the national income is, or other economic factors, you can guarantee to us that our interest rate will remain around 2.06 per- cent? "Mr. ECCLES. We certainly can. We can guarantee that the interest rate, so far as the public debt is concerned, is where the Open-Market Committee of the Federal Re- serve desires to put it." 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